Bungie also said it's would launch PC/Mac/X-Box titles at the same time. They also said they wouldn't change the game went they moved ot MS. They also said HALO would still be multiplayer on the X-Box to showcase that the X-Box is a network gaming platform.
I'll beleive it when I SEE it. So get your facts straight before you start selling vaporware.
To placate all those people who seem to think I'm just pissing in the wind to cast MS in a bad light, I'll post a little follow-up.
I don't think MS did anything other than steer Bungie away from making a PC/Mac title. A small change, but the move from PC/Mac to X-Box drastically changed the HALO game from a massivly multiplayer online combat game into the game we see today. Graphics, sounds, who cares? The game play is watered down into something that's been done before a million times (albiet not as visually stunning).
For this, I care not for HALO. And when it's forgotten as just another X-Box title and not a real ground breaking popular game, I won't shed a fucking tear.
HALO was planned to be an amazingly, impressive, multiplayer game set inside a virtual online war. If you look at the finished product, having no idea of the original concept, you might think it's a nice, fun game. Woo. But if you knew what the game was to be like before MS purchased Bungie, you would know how HALO has been watered down into a trivial, add nothing new, console version of Quake or Unreal.
Honestly, the fall from a multiplayer, persistant, war story of epic proportions down to a simple action shoot-em-up with a hint of multiplayer is truly a fall form grace.
Suck it up, Bungie. MS stole your soul and your ability to innovate.
We allready use air-cooling for our CPUs. A radiator is the next logical step in cooling. It's a simple matter of efficiently moving heat arround. Something that car manufacturers have been doing for ages with good success.
"Seems to me that there's no such thing as a conditional freedom."
I suppose slander or yelling "fire" in a crowded theater is covered under this freedom? It's free speech, right?
NO! Just as much as the Pro-Censorship movement spends time miring it's followers in propaganda, so, too, do the free speech advocates. Not all speech is free. Get used to it. Suck it up and deal with it. You may have the right to say what you want in the US, but don't assume it's always protected as free speech.
I'm sick of this polarization of us vs. them in my society. Call me a realist, but everything has it's limits.
Why didn't they use this tactic against Napster? At least they aren't attacking the tool and are focusing on the people violating the law. What possible excuse could the MPAA have for treating Gnutella different other than, "We could attack the tool with Napster." Bah.
Any casual observer who was familiar with the games mentioned would realize that the source code had NOTHING to do with the explosion of the mod comunity that id helped foster. People were creating mods and `hacking' Doom long before id even thought about releasing the source code.
Releasing the source to those games might have been a bad idea, but that is not the point of the post you are responding to.
Last time I checked, SlashDot was not beholden to you or anyone else insofar as what gets posted as news items. The whim of Taco is enough to determine what we see and what we don't. And just as you have the right to bitch about it, you don't see everyone else clamoring to try and force you to make a worthy post (which you havn't).
If you don't like reading these news articles, STOP READING SLASHDOT you MORON! No one is MAKING you stay here and frankly the entire/. community would be better off if you LEFT! So pack your sand filled pussy up and GET THE HELL OUT!
P.S.: I appologize for not using the word "fuck" more in my posts. All praise to Lewis Black.
Now you're trying to to read way too much into that analogy.
"Please think about things before you make a non-sensical comparison."
No way. I know you're trying to make a difference in the world or something, but someday you will realize that the world makes NO SENSE to begin with. So stop trying to stuff me into your idea of what makes sense and get on with your life so I can get on with my own. Thank you.
I purchased a car that they said would work great with the 91+ Octane gasoline. I didn't like that octane gasoline, so I put jet fuel in the car. Now the car won't work and after I sent it to the shop, it's back with parts missing. What is wrong with ?!?! What ever happened to service?
Moral of the story? None really. Just be glad it's VA and not IBM. IBM would have just told you to stick the server up your butt after hearing you installed Mandrake.
"I mean, just stopping buying CDs isn't going to do it, we need some kind of way to elt them know that we're consciously choosing not to buy CDs because of their lameness quotient."
This is a valid point. If the RIAA doesn't know there is a boycott, they will figure the loss in sales is due to gnutella or other illegal forms of music trading.
"Although I agree that Counterstrike is played by more people and that you can shoot through walls, the best gamers play Quake 3 (as evidenced by the CPL), and because of that, everyone's looking for a little advantage."
What you say about the `best' gamers is not unlike saying "the best athletes play football (as evidenced by the SuperBowl)". When you get that foot out of your mouth, try to think about what you say before you start talking again.
Pay attention to my final remark. SoF does NOT show what ACTUALLY happens when you shoot someone. Sure, it's more realistic than Quake III, but it is NOT REAL! Study some ballistics and review some coroner reports of gunshot victims and you'll discover something. A gunshot is not just getting shot and turning gorey. There are complicated physics and sometimes very unexpected physical results. Most people shot with a simple handgun in the stomach do not spill their guts. People shot in the head don't fall down slowly. These are only a FEW of the differences I could note.
So I'll post about the actual game, SoF. I have played it. I have also played many other recent PC games that are somewhat violent in nature. I don't think that banning minors from buying SoF is such a bad idea. SoF is not a good game, but it does do one thing well. It depicts violence pretty graphically. Commendable. You can shoot people in the stomach and watch they intestines fall out. You can shoot them in the knee and watch them hop around in pain. You can even blow half their head off and eye the gorey remains of half a human head. WOO! Is it any substitute for good gameplay? NO WAY! I am starting to believe that SoF was made just to show how realistic PC game violence can be, and see how hot it sells a mediocre game.
Is banning the game the best long term solution to keep small children from turning into killers? No. This is a fix to a symptom. Instead of parents caring what their kids play, the government is having to step in and force the parents to buy the game for them, or turn the kids towards pirating the game. Once again, our complex society has done and end-run on some people who thought they were making a good decision. Those who do not comprehend their own lack of control over a complex system, are doomed to be at its mercy.
P.S.: Anyone who thinks that a video game(console, PC, or arcade) is a training simulator has either never played one, or never been on an actual killing spree.
I submit that this is going to be the leading edge of `civilizing' the net. Us heathens and blood thirsty animals will need to be `saved' from our own desires. Microsoft is going to become the Catholic church of the internet if it isn't allready. I think King Gates is gearing up for Crusade v1.0.
Ok, you're using my rules to create a truth that applies to other people. All I am saying is that if you have first hand experience that penicillin is bad for you, don't let someone else say penicillin is good for you. I think you're reading a tad too much into them.;)
Besides, these are simple rules from ME. Don't trust me to tell you the truth when you have experienced different. Aren't those rules cool like that? Hehehe.
1) Just because there is a world full of information, doesn't mean you need to sort and access all of it.
2) There are millions of items of information you will never need to know.
3) You will not see everything or know everything before you die.
4) You should learn to make sense of things you witness firsthand before you take the word of another person.
5) No matter how much you trust someone else to tell you something (be it `sensemakers' or the media at large), don't trust them as much as you trust what you know from your own experience.
6) Realize that when group X tells group Y what you know and gets it wrong, that what group X tells you about group Y is also suspect.
I'm sure this is redundant and simple, but I find most people don't know how to do this. Then when they hit the net and get inundated with info, they fold faster than superman on laundry day.
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Bungie also said it's would launch PC/Mac/X-Box titles at the same time. They also said they wouldn't change the game went they moved ot MS. They also said HALO would still be multiplayer on the X-Box to showcase that the X-Box is a network gaming platform.
I'll beleive it when I SEE it. So get your facts straight before you start selling vaporware.
To placate all those people who seem to think I'm just pissing in the wind to cast MS in a bad light, I'll post a little follow-up.
I don't think MS did anything other than steer Bungie away from making a PC/Mac title. A small change, but the move from PC/Mac to X-Box drastically changed the HALO game from a massivly multiplayer online combat game into the game we see today. Graphics, sounds, who cares? The game play is watered down into something that's been done before a million times (albiet not as visually stunning).
For this, I care not for HALO. And when it's forgotten as just another X-Box title and not a real ground breaking popular game, I won't shed a fucking tear.
HALO was planned to be an amazingly, impressive, multiplayer game set inside a virtual online war. If you look at the finished product, having no idea of the original concept, you might think it's a nice, fun game. Woo. But if you knew what the game was to be like before MS purchased Bungie, you would know how HALO has been watered down into a trivial, add nothing new, console version of Quake or Unreal.
Honestly, the fall from a multiplayer, persistant, war story of epic proportions down to a simple action shoot-em-up with a hint of multiplayer is truly a fall form grace.
Suck it up, Bungie. MS stole your soul and your ability to innovate.
We allready use air-cooling for our CPUs. A radiator is the next logical step in cooling. It's a simple matter of efficiently moving heat arround. Something that car manufacturers have been doing for ages with good success.
Hahahaha! Hahahaha! Haahahahahaha!
Ahem. Hehehe.
If this ever happened, I might pay *JUST* to see integrity on Slashdot.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! BWAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH! HEHEHEHEEH!
Bad Mojo
...is a helicopter.
Now that we've clouded the issue with facts, let's all move along.
Bad Mojo
I suppose slander or yelling "fire" in a crowded theater is covered under this freedom? It's free speech, right?
NO! Just as much as the Pro-Censorship movement spends time miring it's followers in propaganda, so, too, do the free speech advocates. Not all speech is free. Get used to it. Suck it up and deal with it. You may have the right to say what you want in the US, but don't assume it's always protected as free speech.
I'm sick of this polarization of us vs. them in my society. Call me a realist, but everything has it's limits.
Bad Mojo
The point is that it is written in Java and works on Solaris, AIX, and Windows. Linux support is a side effect as much as a profit making venture.
Bad Mojo
Why didn't they use this tactic against Napster? At least they aren't attacking the tool and are focusing on the people violating the law. What possible excuse could the MPAA have for treating Gnutella different other than, "We could attack the tool with Napster." Bah.
Bad Mojo
You, my friend, are an idiot.
Any casual observer who was familiar with the games mentioned would realize that the source code had NOTHING to do with the explosion of the mod comunity that id helped foster. People were creating mods and `hacking' Doom long before id even thought about releasing the source code.
Releasing the source to those games might have been a bad idea, but that is not the point of the post you are responding to.
Bad Mojo
A TON? Maybe you aren't applying it in the most optimum fasion.
Bad Mojo
Last time I checked, SlashDot was not beholden to you or anyone else insofar as what gets posted as news items. The whim of Taco is enough to determine what we see and what we don't. And just as you have the right to bitch about it, you don't see everyone else clamoring to try and force you to make a worthy post (which you havn't).
/. community would be better off if you LEFT! So pack your sand filled pussy up and GET THE HELL OUT!
If you don't like reading these news articles, STOP READING SLASHDOT you MORON! No one is MAKING you stay here and frankly the entire
P.S.: I appologize for not using the word "fuck" more in my posts. All praise to Lewis Black.
Bad Mojo
Now you're trying to to read way too much into that analogy.
"Please think about things before you make a non-sensical comparison."
No way. I know you're trying to make a difference in the world or something, but someday you will realize that the world makes NO SENSE to begin with. So stop trying to stuff me into your idea of what makes sense and get on with your life so I can get on with my own. Thank you.
Bad Mojo
I purchased a car that they said would work great with the 91+ Octane gasoline. I didn't like that octane gasoline, so I put jet fuel in the car. Now the car won't work and after I sent it to the shop, it's back with parts missing. What is wrong with ?!?! What ever happened to service?
Moral of the story? None really. Just be glad it's VA and not IBM. IBM would have just told you to stick the server up your butt after hearing you installed Mandrake.
Bad Mojo
"I mean, just stopping buying CDs isn't going to do it, we need some kind of way to elt them know that we're consciously choosing not to buy CDs because of their lameness quotient."
This is a valid point. If the RIAA doesn't know there is a boycott, they will figure the loss in sales is due to gnutella or other illegal forms of music trading.
Bad Mojo
"Although I agree that Counterstrike is played by more people and that you can shoot through walls, the best gamers play Quake 3 (as evidenced by the CPL), and because of that, everyone's looking for a little advantage."
What you say about the `best' gamers is not unlike saying "the best athletes play football (as evidenced by the SuperBowl)". When you get that foot out of your mouth, try to think about what you say before you start talking again.
Bad Mojo
Dare I ask? Do you even WORK at IBM?
Bad Mojo
Pay attention to my final remark. SoF does NOT show what ACTUALLY happens when you shoot someone. Sure, it's more realistic than Quake III, but it is NOT REAL! Study some ballistics and review some coroner reports of gunshot victims and you'll discover something. A gunshot is not just getting shot and turning gorey. There are complicated physics and sometimes very unexpected physical results. Most people shot with a simple handgun in the stomach do not spill their guts. People shot in the head don't fall down slowly. These are only a FEW of the differences I could note.
Bad Mojo
I realize I said "banning the game" when I meant to say "banning the sale of this game to minors". Sorry about that.
Bad Mojo
So I'll post about the actual game, SoF. I have played it. I have also played many other recent PC games that are somewhat violent in nature. I don't think that banning minors from buying SoF is such a bad idea. SoF is not a good game, but it does do one thing well. It depicts violence pretty graphically. Commendable. You can shoot people in the stomach and watch they intestines fall out. You can shoot them in the knee and watch them hop around in pain. You can even blow half their head off and eye the gorey remains of half a human head. WOO! Is it any substitute for good gameplay? NO WAY! I am starting to believe that SoF was made just to show how realistic PC game violence can be, and see how hot it sells a mediocre game.
Is banning the game the best long term solution to keep small children from turning into killers? No. This is a fix to a symptom. Instead of parents caring what their kids play, the government is having to step in and force the parents to buy the game for them, or turn the kids towards pirating the game. Once again, our complex society has done and end-run on some people who thought they were making a good decision. Those who do not comprehend their own lack of control over a complex system, are doomed to be at its mercy.
P.S.: Anyone who thinks that a video game(console, PC, or arcade) is a training simulator has either never played one, or never been on an actual killing spree.
Bad Mojo
"Unless there was a rule that only applied to me and it was really cool. I might like that one."
;)
Now you know why I like my rules! And you are free to take mine, re-arrange them to fit you, and use them.
Bad Mojo
I submit that this is going to be the leading edge of `civilizing' the net. Us heathens and blood thirsty animals will need to be `saved' from our own desires. Microsoft is going to become the Catholic church of the internet if it isn't allready. I think King Gates is gearing up for Crusade v1.0.
Bad Mojo
So where are the pictures of the cute booth babes?
Bad Mojo
Ok, you're using my rules to create a truth that applies to other people. All I am saying is that if you have first hand experience that penicillin is bad for you, don't let someone else say penicillin is good for you. I think you're reading a tad too much into them. ;)
Besides, these are simple rules from ME. Don't trust me to tell you the truth when you have experienced different. Aren't those rules cool like that? Hehehe.
Bad Mojo
1) Just because there is a world full of information, doesn't mean you need to sort and access all of it.
2) There are millions of items of information you will never need to know.
3) You will not see everything or know everything before you die.
4) You should learn to make sense of things you witness firsthand before you take the word of another person.
5) No matter how much you trust someone else to tell you something (be it `sensemakers' or the media at large), don't trust them as much as you trust what you know from your own experience.
6) Realize that when group X tells group Y what you know and gets it wrong, that what group X tells you about group Y is also suspect.
I'm sure this is redundant and simple, but I find most people don't know how to do this. Then when they hit the net and get inundated with info, they fold faster than superman on laundry day.
Bad Mojo