Just because something (code) CAN be free speech, doesn't mean it always is. In the US, people can not run around publishing and saying whatever they want. You can't rob a bank and say it's free speech. You can't slander someone and call it free speech. And I think it's safe to say that you can't crack someone's box and say it's free speech. I can burn a copy of MS Office and THAT may be free speech. But stealing MS Office (like stealing a US flag from a store) is still illegal.
Basically, the judgement had nothing to do with wether USING code was free speech. Just that code can be a form of free speech.
1) Netscape 6 is built on top of Mozilla. If Mozilla went away today, there would never be another Netscape.
2) It's a small download... for a network install program.
C'mon. Let's not post stupid ass articles full of half-truths and hateful suppositions. It's obvious from the person who submitted this news that they don't like netscape.
"Whereas with the net, you get bit-perfect copies, which are essentially trivial to capture and propagate..."
Hehehe! Hahahaha! Hrm. Ok.
Yes, last time I checked, I thought ShoutCast and Spinner.com et all were doing a great job. Minus the lag. Minus the packet dropping and switching. Minus the advertisements. I would sooner buy a CD than record CRAPPY net music that has been digially manhandled on it's way to my computer. At least when the CD skips, you can clean it.
"Witness as America starts on the long slide down to anarchy, fascism and ultimately nazism."
If only nazism and facism were somehow closely related to anarchy. While I won't contest that America is leaing into facism and nazi-istic behaviour sometimes, it's far from anarchy. Anarchy would be like a breath of fucking fresh air in the US. If the US *IS* hading towards anarchy, it can't become facist or like a Nazi state. That would be getting monkey while your getting elephant. It can't be.
If there are life forms on Mars that can do anything about us crashing stuff on the planet, they don't seem to be retaliating. They don't seem to be doing ANYTHING.
PR with Mars? I know Mars, and if you don't crash a few landers onto the surface, you're insulting Mars.
Quantum physics and Newtonian physics. It sounds like you want the quantum world to be governed by the newtonian rules. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but that won't happen unless both fall under a Unified physics ruleset.
If you want a good general idea of why quantum physics is so odd, it's cause stuff always gets weird at extremes.
NASA DOES have competition. Boeing, Donald McDouglas, and Rockwell. These all will put a satellite up or do other space related things for a profit. NASA gets to do the stuff that isn't simply money driven. No one will pay money to just put a lander on Mars. NASA as a private company would simply become another satellite pusher.
IF you went back 100 years and told the leading physicists (sp?) of the day that 100 years from now, we would have the ability to hide things by using a cloaking device, they would have been highly skeptical, might have even said it was impossible.
Just because it's an idea that seems thinkable doesn't make it possible. No matter how much time mankind is allowed to gather knowledge.
I hope that sheds a little light on how things work in the real world. Any other questions?
Caldera (eDesktop) is aimed at the common desktop user with little or no Linux knowledge (I think). If that is a fact, it increases the odds for that distro to be a mis-managed Linux box. It's not personal. If anything it puts a burdon on Caldera's shoulders to do a good job and prevent this type of thing from happening.
If you do know some clueless RedHat people, let RedHat know, I hear they are hiring. Hehehe. Can't help it!
I read this earlier and it seemed pretty good. Sort of a rehash to most Linux savy people. But reading it over again is never a bad idea.
Anyhow... one large issue that will cause problems for Linux as a client machine is that most people will be running as root. This sucks. I believe education is the best method to fix this but I'm fearful it will be bad education, not good. By that I mean that 100s of clueless caldera users or something will get some horid virus before someone says `Why were you running as root?' Then they will learn. Not a nice lesson. There may be better solutions out there (such as linuxconf style system configuration?), but as long as an end user views root as the easiest way to avoid permission issues, they will use it.
Don't expect to ever see serious server side Linux virus outbreakes, but end user Linux is a trojan horse waiting to happen, IMHO.
If the Judge says they are not a monopoly and are without any guilt, then those lawsuits are not going to appear. If MS was sure that it was not guilty, they would just sit back and wait for the not-guilty verdict to be rendered.
But that's not the case. They know they are guilty and have lost. They are trying very hard to buy their way out of trouble.
"So it's very unlikely, that you'd find someone with the same DNA as you. But it much easier to find two people with the same DNA (and that still ain't likely)."
The point though, is that we may find out at a later date that the probability of these sections of DNA used for testing have a very high chance of being the same. Imagine your birthday analogy, except instead of finding a similar birthday, you're looking for someone with a 2 as the last digit in the month section. There's no doubt in my mind that if we were compariing two complete strands of DNA, we could find differences.
AFAIK, there's a chance that an complete DNA strand from one person might be somewhat different after 2 months.
"I imagine that the best analogy is that of movie reviews -- how factually correct does a movie review have to be? Anyone? Anyone?"
Well, a movie review is opinion. I doubt anyone thinks otherwise. People who purchase CyberPatrol are not buying an opinion of web sites. They are led to beleive (IMHO) that this software will block porn and other `bad' content and nothing else. Which isn't true.
Essentially, I think this gives people who purchased the software a reason to file a class action suit for being lied to. But then again, if you bought this software, I doubt you care.
From my understanding of DNA testing, an isolated segment is tested. This segment is thought to be unique for each individual in the world. As much as I would like to beleive this, I have to think that DNA will never be used effectivly to convict people. Effectivly the tests only examine less than 1% of a full strand of DNA. At this time, I can't say that I could convict someone because two extremely small peices of DNA happen to appear identical. The odds are good, IMO, that this pattern repeat is possible in two people.
Now obviously if DNA tests reveal a signifigant difference, I beleive it can be used to rule out suspects in any investigation.
And just as a reminder, I'm not a scientist, and I don't know much about the DNA testing process so if someone does and can fill me in, I would appreciate it.
As long as I live, I vow to destroy evil robots! So no one needs to worry as long as I'm alive. And once I find out how to live forever, the world will never need to fear evil robots stealing their medication and ruining their lives. I told the Unibomber this and he didn't trust me. So don't say I didn't try to avert disaster.
From what I have heard inside IBM, MWave isn't IBM's tech to release. But that's just what I've heard. I would listen to a better source if one pops their head up here.
The issue is that the web pages that are being blocked erroneously have no say in any contract. If person A tells person B, "By listening to me, you do not hold me responsable for what I say, Person C is a child molester." Then Person C (who didn't agree to the terms) can file suit. You can't have Person C sign away their rights if they weren't even part of the `contract'. So the question is moot. If my web site is blocked due to PORN and RACIAL BIGOTRY and it is in fact blocked for no reason, I signed no contract, I never gave CyberPatrol the right to attack my site and label it as such.
For those who didn't read the article, you didn't miss much. No real examples. No specific instances of Linux being insecure. Just general hearsay about how insecure Open Source must be. If you want a textbook example of FUD, this is it.
I don't even recommend writing to correct these people. Let them wallow in their own crapulence(sp).
And I have a J-40 8 way SMP machine that cranks out some nice numbers for distributed.net quite well. I may not like AIX, but it does a good, reliable, effecient job.
"Napster is currently being sued for billions of dollars by the Recording Industry Association of America, which complains that the software enables music piracy. AOL -- which is in the process of acquiring Time Warner, which in turn owns the record label Warner Music, which in turn is a charter member of the Recording Industry Association of America -- could hardly be pleased that one of its own was producing a similar software program. No wonder those roguish programmers kept Gnutella hidden from their corporate managers."
This is what bothers me about the Salon article. They draw a conclusion that the only reason to not openly develop a program to version 0.48 is to HIDE it. Geesh. I'm fairly certain the author has NO clue as to what is going on and allready he/she/it is accusing those who wrote gnutella of undermining AOL. Is it possible to think that writing great tools for finding stuff on this GIANT network would possibly be a boon to AOL? I think it is.
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Just because something (code) CAN be free speech, doesn't mean it always is. In the US, people can not run around publishing and saying whatever they want. You can't rob a bank and say it's free speech. You can't slander someone and call it free speech. And I think it's safe to say that you can't crack someone's box and say it's free speech. I can burn a copy of MS Office and THAT may be free speech. But stealing MS Office (like stealing a US flag from a store) is still illegal.
Basically, the judgement had nothing to do with wether USING code was free speech. Just that code can be a form of free speech.
Bad Mojo
1) Netscape 6 is built on top of Mozilla. If Mozilla went away today, there would never be another Netscape.
... for a network install program.
2) It's a small download
C'mon. Let's not post stupid ass articles full of half-truths and hateful suppositions. It's obvious from the person who submitted this news that they don't like netscape.
Bad Mojo
"Whereas with the net, you get bit-perfect copies, which are essentially trivial to capture and propagate..."
Hehehe! Hahahaha! Hrm. Ok.
Yes, last time I checked, I thought ShoutCast and Spinner.com et all were doing a great job. Minus the lag. Minus the packet dropping and switching. Minus the advertisements. I would sooner buy a CD than record CRAPPY net music that has been digially manhandled on it's way to my computer. At least when the CD skips, you can clean it.
Bad Mojo
Hrm. I hear cow based radio programming is the wave of the future. Cows aren't fickle and they don't mind advertisements one bit.
Bad Mojo
"Witness as America starts on the long slide down to anarchy, fascism and ultimately nazism."
If only nazism and facism were somehow closely related to anarchy. While I won't contest that America is leaing into facism and nazi-istic behaviour sometimes, it's far from anarchy. Anarchy would be like a breath of fucking fresh air in the US. If the US *IS* hading towards anarchy, it can't become facist or like a Nazi state. That would be getting monkey while your getting elephant. It can't be.
Bad Mojo
If there are life forms on Mars that can do anything about us crashing stuff on the planet, they don't seem to be retaliating. They don't seem to be doing ANYTHING.
PR with Mars? I know Mars, and if you don't crash a few landers onto the surface, you're insulting Mars.
Bad Mojo
Quantum physics and Newtonian physics. It sounds like you want the quantum world to be governed by the newtonian rules. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but that won't happen unless both fall under a Unified physics ruleset.
If you want a good general idea of why quantum physics is so odd, it's cause stuff always gets weird at extremes.
Bad Mojo
NASA DOES have competition. Boeing, Donald McDouglas, and Rockwell. These all will put a satellite up or do other space related things for a profit. NASA gets to do the stuff that isn't simply money driven. No one will pay money to just put a lander on Mars. NASA as a private company would simply become another satellite pusher.
Bad Mojo
IF you went back 100 years and told the leading physicists (sp?) of the day that 100 years from now, we would have the ability to hide things by using a cloaking device, they would have been highly skeptical, might have even said it was impossible.
Just because it's an idea that seems thinkable doesn't make it possible. No matter how much time mankind is allowed to gather knowledge.
I hope that sheds a little light on how things work in the real world. Any other questions?
Bad Mojo
Dude, chill.
Caldera (eDesktop) is aimed at the common desktop user with little or no Linux knowledge (I think). If that is a fact, it increases the odds for that distro to be a mis-managed Linux box. It's not personal. If anything it puts a burdon on Caldera's shoulders to do a good job and prevent this type of thing from happening.
If you do know some clueless RedHat people, let RedHat know, I hear they are hiring. Hehehe. Can't help it!
Bad Mojo
I read this earlier and it seemed pretty good. Sort of a rehash to most Linux savy people. But reading it over again is never a bad idea.
... one large issue that will cause problems for Linux as a client machine is that most people will be running as root. This sucks. I believe education is the best method to fix this but I'm fearful it will be bad education, not good. By that I mean that 100s of clueless caldera users or something will get some horid virus before someone says `Why were you running as root?' Then they will learn. Not a nice lesson. There may be better solutions out there (such as linuxconf style system configuration?), but as long as an end user views root as the easiest way to avoid permission issues, they will use it.
Anyhow
Don't expect to ever see serious server side Linux virus outbreakes, but end user Linux is a trojan horse waiting to happen, IMHO.
Bad Mojo
As a teacher, and important lesson you have the chance to teach is "A greater version number does not make a product greater."
Get your students to leave their MS centric ideas at home and concentrate on running good software that gets upgraded for a reason.
Maybe you can end the class with doing an upgrade to 6.2 and showing how easy it can be?
Just some ideas from a teacher-wanna-be.
Bad Mojo
"You have always had a right to choice. I'm just curios why you think it is YOUR right to make my choice now?"
Microsoft: "Yes, you've had your choice all along. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain."
Bad Mojo
If the Judge says they are not a monopoly and are without any guilt, then those lawsuits are not going to appear. If MS was sure that it was not guilty, they would just sit back and wait for the not-guilty verdict to be rendered.
But that's not the case. They know they are guilty and have lost. They are trying very hard to buy their way out of trouble.
Bad Mojo
Why doesn't MS wait for the ruling? Aren't the secure in the fact that they are not a monopoly?
Bad Mojo
"So it's very unlikely, that you'd find someone with the same DNA as you. But it much easier to find two people with the same DNA (and that still ain't likely)."
The point though, is that we may find out at a later date that the probability of these sections of DNA used for testing have a very high chance of being the same. Imagine your birthday analogy, except instead of finding a similar birthday, you're looking for someone with a 2 as the last digit in the month section. There's no doubt in my mind that if we were compariing two complete strands of DNA, we could find differences.
AFAIK, there's a chance that an complete DNA strand from one person might be somewhat different after 2 months.
Bad Mojo
"I imagine that the best analogy is that of movie reviews -- how factually correct does a movie review have to be? Anyone? Anyone?"
Well, a movie review is opinion. I doubt anyone thinks otherwise. People who purchase CyberPatrol are not buying an opinion of web sites. They are led to beleive (IMHO) that this software will block porn and other `bad' content and nothing else. Which isn't true.
Essentially, I think this gives people who purchased the software a reason to file a class action suit for being lied to. But then again, if you bought this software, I doubt you care.
Bad Mojo
From my understanding of DNA testing, an isolated segment is tested. This segment is thought to be unique for each individual in the world. As much as I would like to beleive this, I have to think that DNA will never be used effectivly to convict people. Effectivly the tests only examine less than 1% of a full strand of DNA. At this time, I can't say that I could convict someone because two extremely small peices of DNA happen to appear identical. The odds are good, IMO, that this pattern repeat is possible in two people.
Now obviously if DNA tests reveal a signifigant difference, I beleive it can be used to rule out suspects in any investigation.
And just as a reminder, I'm not a scientist, and I don't know much about the DNA testing process so if someone does and can fill me in, I would appreciate it.
Bad Mojo
"Oh, and who has open source actually helped, I'm curious? Red Hat? VA Linux? Cobalt? Well, they were all open source companies to start with."
RedHat is still an Open Source company.
Bad Mojo
As long as I live, I vow to destroy evil robots! So no one needs to worry as long as I'm alive. And once I find out how to live forever, the world will never need to fear evil robots stealing their medication and ruining their lives. I told the Unibomber this and he didn't trust me. So don't say I didn't try to avert disaster.
Bad Mojo
From what I have heard inside IBM, MWave isn't IBM's tech to release. But that's just what I've heard. I would listen to a better source if one pops their head up here.
Bad Mojo
The issue is that the web pages that are being blocked erroneously have no say in any contract. If person A tells person B, "By listening to me, you do not hold me responsable for what I say, Person C is a child molester." Then Person C (who didn't agree to the terms) can file suit. You can't have Person C sign away their rights if they weren't even part of the `contract'. So the question is moot. If my web site is blocked due to PORN and RACIAL BIGOTRY and it is in fact blocked for no reason, I signed no contract, I never gave CyberPatrol the right to attack my site and label it as such.
Bad Mojo
Move along. Nothing to see here. Just more FUD.
For those who didn't read the article, you didn't miss much. No real examples. No specific instances of Linux being insecure. Just general hearsay about how insecure Open Source must be. If you want a textbook example of FUD, this is it.
I don't even recommend writing to correct these people. Let them wallow in their own crapulence(sp).
Bad Mojo
And I have a J-40 8 way SMP machine that cranks out some nice numbers for distributed.net quite well. I may not like AIX, but it does a good, reliable, effecient job.
Bad Mojo
"Napster is currently being sued for billions of dollars by the Recording Industry Association of America, which complains that the software enables music piracy. AOL -- which is in the process of acquiring Time Warner, which in turn owns the record label Warner Music, which in turn is a charter member of the Recording Industry Association of America -- could hardly be pleased that one of its own was producing a similar software program. No wonder those roguish programmers kept Gnutella hidden from their corporate managers."
This is what bothers me about the Salon article. They draw a conclusion that the only reason to not openly develop a program to version 0.48 is to HIDE it. Geesh. I'm fairly certain the author has NO clue as to what is going on and allready he/she/it is accusing those who wrote gnutella of undermining AOL. Is it possible to think that writing great tools for finding stuff on this GIANT network would possibly be a boon to AOL? I think it is.
Just my $0.02, trash as you see fit.
Bad Mojo