I would say people who don't visit 4chan often consider/b/ to be 4chan, and bash that. I myself don't regularly go to 4chan and can't speak for the rest of the site, but the few times I looked through/b/ I can see where they get this reputation.
Not very innovative on my part after you've already mentioned urandom, but you can also "listen" to your hard drive: cat/dev/sda >/dev/dsp Replace sda with your hard drive, of course. It's a very trippy experience, when it reaches uncompressed sound files they will be outputted correctly.
I'm assuming this is trolling, but I want to clarify anyway. She wasn't driving. She was in the passenger seat. AND the car was stopped. Poor lid design and hotter than standard temperatures led to quick third degree burns.
Except there is, because McDonald's intentionally kept their coffee hotter than needed because they thought customers would be driving long distances and not drinking the coffee until much later. Just 20 degrees cooler, like all of the other coffee shops tested around the city, would have slowed the burning process down significantly. It may have given her enough time to react and not get third degree burns.
Why is it people are sued for their coffee being too hot... but people haven't sued the crap out of corporations for packages that quite frankly maim their customers?
The ladder is frivolous in comparison. The coffee case has largely been misrepresented in popular media. Liebeck, the plaintiff, suffered third degree burns on her thighs, buttocks, and genitals. She required 8 days of hospitalization, skin grafts, and $11,000 in medical bills. Liebeck first sought to settle out of court for $20,000 to cover said bills. When McDonalds countered with a $800 offer, Liebeck took the case to court.
There have been frivolous lawsuits, definitely true. The scalding coffee was not. Other coffee vendors around the city were, at the highest temperature, 20 degrees Fahrenheit cooler than McDonald's coffee.
I don't mean preemptively suing EA, that's really childish. This kind of behaviour was not stated up front and anyone affected negatively after purchasing has the right to sue.
They could avoid buying EA products in the future, but that doesn't rectify the previous unfair actions from EA. Lawsuits have their place. Just because some abuse them, don't overlook them entirely.
Of course the usual IANAL disclaimer, I could be completely wrong about the use of a lawsuit here.
The PR speak in that article doesn't do a great job in dismissing any fears about this issue. It makes it sound like you might still get banned from the game you were talking about, or that it might not be automatic. It doesn't flat out say "our forum and games are separate."
Slashdot: I see this community as a generally more well spoken crowd then the rest. Yeah, yeah, there's plenty of immaturity and other nonsense. I still think overall the discussion here comes up with more interesting discussion than elsewhere.
A link posted below seems to say that this policy isn't true, but in fact it sounds like it just won't be automatic. The EA market speak actually doesn't seem to say very much to the contrary.
Anyway, anyone who thinks this is as appalling as I do can easily make an account on EA and post what you think there. E-mailing wouldn't hurt either. I doubt it will change much, but at least we can drive away other customers and let EA know that there's more people than a small crowd of Spore customers dissatisfied with the company.
I have posted the following on the EA forum, I hope others from here post there as well.
---EA employee "Apoc" quote snip---
EA: Your policies are utterly ridiculous and detached from the real world. I have registered on this forum to express my disgust for your company and what I have seen you do to video games over the years. For me, this decision was the climax of detestable behaviour. I react so strongly not because of this policy decision, but because of the vile company I have seen you become as videogames matured.
This is the difference between a forum and a game, for the EA support representatives who have failed their primary occupation of supporting customers. The forum, as I see it, is a privilege provided by EA, although not a very attractive privilege in my opinion. EA provides the service for free, and in return has control over their space. This is understandable, and a basic principle under which most forums operate. A game, on the other hand, is a possession owned by a customer. After the customer pays EA, it is theirs to do what they want. EA has demonstrated they have strayed from reality with strict DRM regarding this point, but I digress. My point is that you have absolutely no right to ban me from my game. This mentality is sickening, and to me represents a company so far from their customers that they are doomed to a slow death.
Forum use does not intersect a purchase; they are on vastly different planes. While repeatedly disruptive behaviour in an online game can understandably conflict with other customers' best wishes, to associate this with forum use is a demonstration in stupidity.
You, EA, have lost me as a customer. When my roommate bought Dead Space, I thought it was a neat game. I thought this even though I had a hard time in seeing past the DRM in the PC version and in other EA games. No more can I see past your flaws. You have become a gross pus on the videogame community; an infection needing termination. I am smarter than you though. I know ahead of time the consequence of my actions. You are a large multinational company and my personal conviction against your games will have no effect, nor will this message. I write this for my own satisfaction, and in the hope that other disenchanted customers will display similar outcries.
My true hope is that customers affected negatively by this and other EA mistakes will band together in a class action lawsuit. Our words and money only say so much, there has always been the consumers who are unaware or indifferent to your policies. They will still give you a profit, I am not naive. A lawsuit, however, can hurt you. You deserve one now for unfair business practices. I have no idea if it will happen, it's only a wish.
The forums are free and voluntary. EA is being gracious by giving gamers a place to talk (take this sentence lightly). So, they can ban you here. It's a privilege to use the forum (take this sentence lightly as well).
You payed for the game. It's your goddamned right to play the thing, you gave them money in order for it to become your property. They can't ban you from this, that action is worse than DRM.
It was EA's privilege to get my money. Well fuck that, they just lost that privilege out of principle. While people like us stop giving them money, time and time again we have seen boycotts like that don't work. Some one needs to sue EA, badly. That's the kind of action that speaks out.
No one's suggesting you do. In fact, your LTS release won't even notify you that there's a new version available until the next LTS. That's the whole point.
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How do you get a troll moderation for putting a legitimate disclaimer to your own post?
I would say people who don't visit 4chan often consider /b/ to be 4chan, and bash that. I myself don't regularly go to 4chan and can't speak for the rest of the site, but the few times I looked through /b/ I can see where they get this reputation.
Not very innovative on my part after you've already mentioned urandom, but you can also "listen" to your hard drive: /dev/sda > /dev/dsp
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Replace sda with your hard drive, of course. It's a very trippy experience, when it reaches uncompressed sound files they will be outputted correctly.
In the words of John McCain: "It's time to put the country first."
Socialist! Marxist!!
I'm so sorry, I couldn't help it.
-Insert steamy pun in here-
OK, but I wish you'd get your mind out of the gutter.
That was a (admittedly cheezy) pun.
Also, it's not "Steam Cloud" it's Steamworks.
Are you responding to the same article as I am?
Yeah, you're right. It's probably just vaporware.
I wasn't being sarcastic, in fact thanks for the reference. I didn't realized until after I posted that it could sound kind of directed at you.
This is the only service where I won't get pissed off about that god awful buzzword "cloud". Puns make the world a better place.
I'm assuming this is trolling, but I want to clarify anyway. She wasn't driving. She was in the passenger seat. AND the car was stopped. Poor lid design and hotter than standard temperatures led to quick third degree burns.
Except there is, because McDonald's intentionally kept their coffee hotter than needed because they thought customers would be driving long distances and not drinking the coffee until much later. Just 20 degrees cooler, like all of the other coffee shops tested around the city, would have slowed the burning process down significantly. It may have given her enough time to react and not get third degree burns.
Why is it people are sued for their coffee being too hot... but people haven't sued the crap out of corporations for packages that quite frankly maim their customers?
The ladder is frivolous in comparison. The coffee case has largely been misrepresented in popular media. Liebeck, the plaintiff, suffered third degree burns on her thighs, buttocks, and genitals. She required 8 days of hospitalization, skin grafts, and $11,000 in medical bills. Liebeck first sought to settle out of court for $20,000 to cover said bills. When McDonalds countered with a $800 offer, Liebeck took the case to court.
There have been frivolous lawsuits, definitely true. The scalding coffee was not. Other coffee vendors around the city were, at the highest temperature, 20 degrees Fahrenheit cooler than McDonald's coffee.
Main source.
Have you been using the same Slashdot I've been on?
I don't mean preemptively suing EA, that's really childish. This kind of behaviour was not stated up front and anyone affected negatively after purchasing has the right to sue.
They could avoid buying EA products in the future, but that doesn't rectify the previous unfair actions from EA. Lawsuits have their place. Just because some abuse them, don't overlook them entirely.
Of course the usual IANAL disclaimer, I could be completely wrong about the use of a lawsuit here.
The PR speak in that article doesn't do a great job in dismissing any fears about this issue. It makes it sound like you might still get banned from the game you were talking about, or that it might not be automatic. It doesn't flat out say "our forum and games are separate."
Because, apparently, I am retarded. That and the fact that the Firefox dictionary thinks that people will be talking about giving out rope.
Spoken like a true EA employee :)
Slashdot: I see this community as a generally more well spoken crowd then the rest. Yeah, yeah, there's plenty of immaturity and other nonsense. I still think overall the discussion here comes up with more interesting discussion than elsewhere.
A link posted below seems to say that this policy isn't true, but in fact it sounds like it just won't be automatic. The EA market speak actually doesn't seem to say very much to the contrary.
Anyway, anyone who thinks this is as appalling as I do can easily make an account on EA and post what you think there. E-mailing wouldn't hurt either. I doubt it will change much, but at least we can drive away other customers and let EA know that there's more people than a small crowd of Spore customers dissatisfied with the company.
I have posted the following on the EA forum, I hope others from here post there as well.
---EA employee "Apoc" quote snip---
EA: Your policies are utterly ridiculous and detached from the real world. I have registered on this forum to express my disgust for your company and what I have seen you do to video games over the years. For me, this decision was the climax of detestable behaviour. I react so strongly not because of this policy decision, but because of the vile company I have seen you become as videogames matured.
This is the difference between a forum and a game, for the EA support representatives who have failed their primary occupation of supporting customers. The forum, as I see it, is a privilege provided by EA, although not a very attractive privilege in my opinion. EA provides the service for free, and in return has control over their space. This is understandable, and a basic principle under which most forums operate. A game, on the other hand, is a possession owned by a customer. After the customer pays EA, it is theirs to do what they want. EA has demonstrated they have strayed from reality with strict DRM regarding this point, but I digress. My point is that you have absolutely no right to ban me from my game. This mentality is sickening, and to me represents a company so far from their customers that they are doomed to a slow death.
Forum use does not intersect a purchase; they are on vastly different planes. While repeatedly disruptive behaviour in an online game can understandably conflict with other customers' best wishes, to associate this with forum use is a demonstration in stupidity.
You, EA, have lost me as a customer. When my roommate bought Dead Space, I thought it was a neat game. I thought this even though I had a hard time in seeing past the DRM in the PC version and in other EA games. No more can I see past your flaws. You have become a gross pus on the videogame community; an infection needing termination. I am smarter than you though. I know ahead of time the consequence of my actions. You are a large multinational company and my personal conviction against your games will have no effect, nor will this message. I write this for my own satisfaction, and in the hope that other disenchanted customers will display similar outcries.
My true hope is that customers affected negatively by this and other EA mistakes will band together in a class action lawsuit. Our words and money only say so much, there has always been the consumers who are unaware or indifferent to your policies. They will still give you a profit, I am not naive. A lawsuit, however, can hurt you. You deserve one now for unfair business practices. I have no idea if it will happen, it's only a wish.
Here's the way I see it:
It was EA's privilege to get my money. Well fuck that, they just lost that privilege out of principle. While people like us stop giving them money, time and time again we have seen boycotts like that don't work. Some one needs to sue EA, badly. That's the kind of action that speaks out.
You just got whoooosh'd.
No one's suggesting you do. In fact, your LTS release won't even notify you that there's a new version available until the next LTS. That's the whole point.
Wow I didn't realize I pretty much copied that verbatim. Well then, what a douche I am.
...social networks encourage multitasking(and help us enjoy our coffee high)...
Bullshit. Get back to work!
...by keeping us busy while the code is compiling...
Oh, carry on then.
That was in reference to the Royal Tenenbaums, which is also where the department gag comes from.
I've heard that Joel Tenenbaum has stomach cancer so this won't matter. He's dying. Well, he's not dying. Except that he's dying.