And Iran and Iraq under Saddam were buddy-buddies.
They did in fact cooperate in a number of things. Just like Israel helped us sell weapons to Iran, who used them against Isreal. Politics and strange bedfellows and all that. Also, Iran and Iraq would easily work together to fight a common foe, i.e. the US. Democrats and Republicans even work together sometimes too.
Please elaborate on this if you can.
I pointed you to a book by Yossef Bodansky. His bio says, "Yossef Bodansky served as the director of the Congressional Task Force on Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare for more than a decade. He is the long-time director of research at the International Strategic Studies Association and senior editor for the Defense and Foreign Affairs group of publications. The author of the one New York Times bestseller Bin Laden: The Man Who Declared Was on America, he travels extensively to the Middle East and around the World." I would say he knows a thing or two about Iraq, Al Qaeada, etc. He has over 1,000 sources for the book The Secret History of the Iraq War and is no friend of the Bush Administration, even if they were right about WMDs and Al Qaeda.
Your claim about working in the "intelligence" industry is a bold-faced lie.
Or you could click on the link to my blog to see photos I took in Iraq and discussions about analytical tools. I do in fact work as an all-source intelligence analyst, originally trained as an 0231 in the US Marines.
The "documentation" you cite here is entirely conspiracy-nut material. Jayna Davis is a crackpot.
Jayna Davis met with Yossef Bodansky (see above) and he said she was right on the money. Seems everyone is crazy but you. Funny how people who do original research and follow this for a living know less than you do.
Well, that explains a lot then, doesn't it? "intelligence community", even the concept is a bloody joke these days.
Well, I do have access to more information that you can imagine, but if it makes you feel good to belittle what you don't know, then go ahead.
Funny that one, where US officials pushed and pushed and pushed and pushed the possibility that Iraq might have been behind it, at the same time knowing with 100% certainty that Iraq had nothing to do with it.
I didn't say Iraq was behind it. In fact, I only mentioned it to say Iraq wasn't the only reason. The anthrax vaccine was pushed because there were multiple sources of deadly anthrax.
Are you actually saying that Iraq was supplying Iran, a country who actively sought to overthrow the government of Iraq, with the means to overthrow them?
During the run-up to the war, Iraq did in fact send large convoys of vehicles into Syria and Iran, with VIPs, cash, stolen art, and WMDs. Try The Secret History of the Iraq War for starters, a scathing indictment of the Bush administration that outlines Iraq's WMD program and their smuggling into Iran.
A clear and present danger to our interests.
For starters, Iraq was involved in the 93 WTC bombing (War Against America, by Laurie Mylroie), the 95 OKC bombing (The Third Terrorist, by Jayna Davis), probably the 98 Embasy bombings, and probably had foreknowledge of the 9/11 attack (not improbable since they were involved in the first one, and KSM masterminded both and was funded by Iraq). Add in the hint of any kind of WMD and their refusal to be inspected, and I believe they were the single greatest threat to the US. All of that is unclass and easily available if you look.
Newsflash. I work in the intelligence community, and there was considerable controversy over other WMD types. He made large quantities of anthrax, for which he was unable to account. This is one of the main reasons the US instituted anthrax shots, along with the anthrax scare in 2001. Iraq produced and used various chemical munitions over the years, including VX, and refused to let anyone inspect his production facilities. Iraq also produced and tested radiological dispersal weapons, used lasers against Iran, and tried to develop a super gun capable of shooting our satellites down. Their penchant for WMDs and other unconventional weapons was well known, well documented, and not limited to the nuclear variety. We also know of large amounts that were smuggled to Iran, where they were moved to their own WMD storage facility. Not surprisingly, the US turned its attention to Iran.
Nobody thought there was any reason to invade since Iraq had done nothing wrong and nothing to warrant an invasion.
Yeah, other than break, what? 18 straight UN violations on WMDs and medium range ballistic missiles (which we DID find in large quantities). There was widespread agreement that Iraq DID have WMDs, and they DID violate multiple UN resolutions. The disagreement centered mostly on how to handle it. Countries like France that sold the aforementioned MRBMs and participated in the corrupt Oil For Food Program wanted yet another resolution passed.
Take a dose of reality yourself. Before the Iraq war, U.S. intel, Jordanian intel , UK intel, Russian intel, French intel, et al all said that Iraq had WMDs. The disagreements were centered around how much, where, if any were in the hands of terrorists etc. Everyone agreed they had WMDs.
Yeah and 20,000 years ago a lot more babies and mothers died in the process. He presumably wanted to deliver without harming the baby or mother. If you've ever delivered a baby or been involved in it, you'd know it's not as easy as it sounds. The hardest part is knowing what to do when something goes wrong. Is the baby in the right position? Is the umbilical cord wrapped around his head? Are his lungs cleared? What if she can't push? What are the indicators for the most common problems?
Sometimes a-holes get mod points. Just keep posting insightful, informative, and interesting posts, and it will work out. It may take months to get up to Excellent.
Then, during the Third Reconciliation of the Last of the Meketrex Supplicants, they chose a new form for him, that of a giant Sloar! Many Shubs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of a Sloar that day, I can tell you!
I would add to that a fire-resistant safe within another fire-resistant safe for CDs, DVDs, hard copies, etc with everything double-ziplock bagged. Then line the whole thing with tin foil. Can't hurt to be overly paranoid, can it?
Invade a massive, well-armed nation with WMDs, terrorist training camps, and fanatical loyalists over a refusal to let foreigners in to tell them how to run an election? Thank god the rest of the world doesn't feel that way over our fucked up elections. Not only could we not afford a war of that size, but we are not the world's police force. It's a slippery slope indeed that led you from the well-intentioned concern for the plight of an abused populace to a full-fledged invasion that would dwarf Iraq and Afghanistan combined over one bad election. I'm sorry, our views are too diametrically opposed to be rectified in any way and I'm content at this point to let it drop. Good day.
The only quotes I've seen from protesters, bloggers, etc is for the US to stay out of their affairs. But OK, some have asked for help. So what should we do that we're not doing? I specifically asked you this question about North Korea, and you didn't answer. The US does not have the ability to invade NK, so what do we do? Write a stern letter? Pass around a petition?
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It feels cold because it's sucking heat out and using it. So it's constantly leaching heat out. Hence it would feel cold. Simple, really.
And Iran and Iraq under Saddam were buddy-buddies.
They did in fact cooperate in a number of things. Just like Israel helped us sell weapons to Iran, who used them against Isreal. Politics and strange bedfellows and all that. Also, Iran and Iraq would easily work together to fight a common foe, i.e. the US. Democrats and Republicans even work together sometimes too.
Please elaborate on this if you can.
I pointed you to a book by Yossef Bodansky. His bio says, "Yossef Bodansky served as the director of the Congressional Task Force on Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare for more than a decade. He is the long-time director of research at the International Strategic Studies Association and senior editor for the Defense and Foreign Affairs group of publications. The author of the one New York Times bestseller Bin Laden: The Man Who Declared Was on America, he travels extensively to the Middle East and around the World." I would say he knows a thing or two about Iraq, Al Qaeada, etc. He has over 1,000 sources for the book The Secret History of the Iraq War and is no friend of the Bush Administration, even if they were right about WMDs and Al Qaeda.
Your claim about working in the "intelligence" industry is a bold-faced lie.
Or you could click on the link to my blog to see photos I took in Iraq and discussions about analytical tools. I do in fact work as an all-source intelligence analyst, originally trained as an 0231 in the US Marines.
The "documentation" you cite here is entirely conspiracy-nut material. Jayna Davis is a crackpot.
Jayna Davis met with Yossef Bodansky (see above) and he said she was right on the money. Seems everyone is crazy but you. Funny how people who do original research and follow this for a living know less than you do.
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So I guess the first decade ran from -1 to 0, and the second decade was from 1 to 10?
Well, that explains a lot then, doesn't it? "intelligence community", even the concept is a bloody joke these days.
Well, I do have access to more information that you can imagine, but if it makes you feel good to belittle what you don't know, then go ahead.
Funny that one, where US officials pushed and pushed and pushed and pushed the possibility that Iraq might have been behind it, at the same time knowing with 100% certainty that Iraq had nothing to do with it.
I didn't say Iraq was behind it. In fact, I only mentioned it to say Iraq wasn't the only reason. The anthrax vaccine was pushed because there were multiple sources of deadly anthrax.
Are you actually saying that Iraq was supplying Iran, a country who actively sought to overthrow the government of Iraq, with the means to overthrow them?
During the run-up to the war, Iraq did in fact send large convoys of vehicles into Syria and Iran, with VIPs, cash, stolen art, and WMDs. Try The Secret History of the Iraq War for starters, a scathing indictment of the Bush administration that outlines Iraq's WMD program and their smuggling into Iran.
A clear and present danger to our interests.
For starters, Iraq was involved in the 93 WTC bombing (War Against America, by Laurie Mylroie), the 95 OKC bombing (The Third Terrorist, by Jayna Davis), probably the 98 Embasy bombings, and probably had foreknowledge of the 9/11 attack (not improbable since they were involved in the first one, and KSM masterminded both and was funded by Iraq). Add in the hint of any kind of WMD and their refusal to be inspected, and I believe they were the single greatest threat to the US. All of that is unclass and easily available if you look.
Nobody thought there was any reason to invade since Iraq had done nothing wrong and nothing to warrant an invasion.
Yeah, other than break, what? 18 straight UN violations on WMDs and medium range ballistic missiles (which we DID find in large quantities). There was widespread agreement that Iraq DID have WMDs, and they DID violate multiple UN resolutions. The disagreement centered mostly on how to handle it. Countries like France that sold the aforementioned MRBMs and participated in the corrupt Oil For Food Program wanted yet another resolution passed.
The people responsible for that simulation have been sacked.
Take a dose of reality yourself. Before the Iraq war, U.S. intel, Jordanian intel , UK intel, Russian intel, French intel, et al all said that Iraq had WMDs. The disagreements were centered around how much, where, if any were in the hands of terrorists etc. Everyone agreed they had WMDs.
Yeah and 20,000 years ago a lot more babies and mothers died in the process. He presumably wanted to deliver without harming the baby or mother. If you've ever delivered a baby or been involved in it, you'd know it's not as easy as it sounds. The hardest part is knowing what to do when something goes wrong. Is the baby in the right position? Is the umbilical cord wrapped around his head? Are his lungs cleared? What if she can't push? What are the indicators for the most common problems?
Someone's slacking off here. Oh wait, it's me.
Plus they are the only comm devices allowed in classified facilities.
And an actual robot to help you play! How many games today have that?
Well, it's new. Maybe Google's crawlers didn't find it yet.
I thought the first message sent across the internet was FrIsT Ps0T! If it wasn't, it should've been.
Probably due to the reflex time when they started and stopped their stopwatches.
Sometimes a-holes get mod points. Just keep posting insightful, informative, and interesting posts, and it will work out. It may take months to get up to Excellent.
Wow, that's an interesting definition of terrorist you're using. Usually, accidental deaths are counted separate from murders.
Then, during the Third Reconciliation of the Last of the Meketrex Supplicants, they chose a new form for him, that of a giant Sloar! Many Shubs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of a Sloar that day, I can tell you!
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Right you are. Just one of Iraq's special weapons, actually.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/iraq/other.htm
I would add to that a fire-resistant safe within another fire-resistant safe for CDs, DVDs, hard copies, etc with everything double-ziplock bagged. Then line the whole thing with tin foil. Can't hurt to be overly paranoid, can it?
Do they mean the British Penny, or the American Lincoln 1-Cent Piece?
Now why would you ruin a perfectly argument by reading TFA? You're not new here, are you?
If they don't, then yes, invasion.
Invade a massive, well-armed nation with WMDs, terrorist training camps, and fanatical loyalists over a refusal to let foreigners in to tell them how to run an election? Thank god the rest of the world doesn't feel that way over our fucked up elections. Not only could we not afford a war of that size, but we are not the world's police force. It's a slippery slope indeed that led you from the well-intentioned concern for the plight of an abused populace to a full-fledged invasion that would dwarf Iraq and Afghanistan combined over one bad election. I'm sorry, our views are too diametrically opposed to be rectified in any way and I'm content at this point to let it drop. Good day.
Which Iranians have said they don't need help?
The only quotes I've seen from protesters, bloggers, etc is for the US to stay out of their affairs. But OK, some have asked for help. So what should we do that we're not doing? I specifically asked you this question about North Korea, and you didn't answer. The US does not have the ability to invade NK, so what do we do? Write a stern letter? Pass around a petition?