...that a lot more people would contribute if they didn't have to learn a whole new markup language to do so, regardless of financial incentives. If they simply made a GUI to mark up the articles, I would put money that more people would contribute.
Because IIS is easy, secure (no critical updates for IIS 6 ever!) and can run ASP.NET/Python/PHP/Perl and anything else you can throw at it with very little configuration. The application pool isolation is also a very nice feature for those who came from IIS 5, so one web site can't bring down an entire box. There are tons and tons of IIS resources on the Net, and while there may be more Apache information, that is only because there is less to know for IIS, it just works.
Security issues? Sounds like somebody just likes to spew anti-ms propgrada without knowing the facts. IIS 6 has had NO critical security vulnerabilities since its release with Windows 2003 Server. IIS 6 is WAY more secure than Apache.
The addition of all these new distro's is a TERRIBLE thing. Every single distro does its own thing and there is no standardization whatsoever. It's terrible. People complained and mocked Microsoft about Windows Vista because it will have 7 different releases. I ask those people this, how many different distributions of Linux are there? Which one do you think consumers would have a harder time understanding?
When the kids get out in the real world, they're going to learn that all the applications they learned aren't used anywhere in the business world. Not only that, but the cost of upgrading the computers isn't that great, extremely deep discounts are given to academic places. In fact, under their SPLA, if for some reason you are short on cash, you can pay around $7/month for each copy of Windows XP. If you even called Microsoft you may even be able to finagle cheaper licenses, as they want to make sure their product is in the schools, ESPECIALLY if you drop the "we'd like to use Linux bomb". Ultimately, I feel that while Linux is better OS in a lot of cases, until it has more market reach, kids should be learning on what they will use, and what they use at home. Not only that, but Unix administrators generally cost more than Windows administrators, should anything happen to you.
Earlier in the thread you called someone a windows elitist simply because he voiced his opinion, yet you too were there fighting tooth and nail to make sure you have enough ammunition to do what you want to do. If you're going to post an Ask Slashdot, you are going to get differing opinions than yours. If you were looking for something to concretely backup your statement, Ask Slashdot is not the place to do it. Besides, what administrator actually cares what a bunch of self-proclaimed geeks on a web site think about the issue?
Why would they try and make this infastructure? So it can also be taken down when this shit happens again? I would not invest ANYTHING in any kind of infastructure down there until local and federal officials decide on a course of action for rebuilding the town in such a way that this won't happen again. If they can't do that, it's time to go elsewhere.
Google, whose philosophy was once "do no evil" falls off the wagon, and you say "good for them!" and you want to do the exact same thing? Where are your principles?
The only thing I'm worried about as a business owner is staying in business. If I'm sued to death over a patent, I lose money that could be going towards innovation. It sucks, but it's the way things are at the moment. Should things be different? Absolutely, but they're not.
Just give up the fight? Accept that things are wrong and need fixing? There definitely needs to be fixing, but you have to keep your business operating at the same time.
The collective cost of allowing this software patent crap to continue is far more than a few petty lawsuits. [Yes, I did pull that factoid out of my..., but I hope it is true.]
At least you admit you have no basis for that statement.
I hate the game, so I'm gonna do my best to stop it, and in the meanwhile -- I'm not playing!
Good, I'm glad you want to change things, but those are the rules at the moment. We can't all afford to live with a common disconnect with reality.
While it appears inevitable that people are going to flame Google for doing this, if I were running a business I would do the exact same thing.
The current state of technology patents is dreadful. To us technology people, many of the patents just appear to be common sense? Patents are being granted left and right for things that just seem normal and easy to us. Unfortunately, that is the way things are...for now. If you are operating a business, it is in your best interest to try and patent everything you do. If you don't, someone else will and then sue you for infringing on their patents. Trust me, the cost of trying to file patents is nothing compared to the cost of being sued for patent infringement.
So don't blame Google or Microsoft or Amazon. For lack of a better euphemism, don't hate the player, hate the game.
Other than price, I don't understand why anybody would NOT want to use Office for OS X. The OS X Office team is completely different than the Windows Office team. Anybody who has even taken a few minutes with Office on the Mac can realize it's the best office suite for any platform, period. It's got the performane and an oustanding UI to match. Not only does it beat the pants off of any open source contenders right now, but it also kicks Office for Windows butt too. It's an oustanding product all around and I for one would never want an alternative to the best.
I've dealt with Microsoft support several times. I work with a Microsoft Certified Partner and their support has never been anything but outstanding. If you have 5 incidents, then you have 5 incidents, they will not make you pay for anything. I've come to them with some really tough question and they've never been able to NOT solve a problem.
Before any more people go and post about how calling Microsoft for support costs money, please remember the following:
1) If the place is a Microsoft shop with a bunch of servers 10-20+, they're most likely a Microsoft Certified Partner who get X amount of free trouble support requests per year. And if YOU solve the trouble shooting or if you bring a question to them that there is NO way you could know or find the answer to, they do not charge/deduct credits. As long as you've done your research and have tried everything to fix the problem, you're most likely not going to be charged.
2) "Support" isn't just calling Microsoft. It also consists of paying on-staff administrators to support everything. The admin(s) that are currently there, if it's a Microsoft shop, are probably MCSA/MCSE's and most likely not that well trained in Linux. For a mid-size business, a salary of 40-60K for another admin is probably a very prohibitive expense.
** This is not flamebait, I am just trying to make a point ** "Hi, I'm a typical Slashdot reader. Even though the story doesn't give any details at all and is barely 5 sentences long, I am going to take is as truth despite lacking any real proof or evidence and then start blabbering about how much I hate Microsoft."
Now, I'm not saying they DIDN'T do it, it sounds like something a business would do. But this piece of "journalism" is not enough to condemn Microsoft for anything. That is by far the poorest execuse for a news article I've ever seen and nothing in it should be taken as fact.
and I'll say it again. While I certainly would like to think the automatic DMCA notices are faulty with any degree of regularity. I used to be in charge of getting the DMCA notices for a University and enforcing the notice. I didn't like doing it because I personally hate the DMCA>
However, out of ~500 notices, not a single one has been wrong. Only one person tried to get out of it, but he was lieing through his teeth, as he said he never traded files on IRC, when we have logs of him doing so. (And no, he wasn't hacked)
The DMCA notices are pretty reliable, but there will be errors, just like there will be with any system. For example, spam filters mis-labeling a real e-mail as spam.
And, if you want to fight the DMCA notice, all you have to do is fill out a really quick form, and that's the end of that. Not a big deal. You shouldn't have to do it at all, but it's still not a big deal.
Unlike the Apple Mouse, the whole left and right side's are buttons. A friend of mine tried one out and he constantly complained that because he rests his hand on his mouse, he mistakingly clicked all over the place. The Apple Mouse, although it has only one button, is only pressure sensitive at the top.
First off, I think it's great that a distribution is doing this. If you're a Linux evangelist, I would imagine a Live-CD may not do everything you want to do.
But, the main point of this post is to ask how is this a viable alternative to a laptop? I always defined viable alternative as a product that offers a similiar product set designed to do the same job. How exactly is a hard drive loaded with Linux comprable to a laptop?
A) That there IS a word logon system currently implemented.
B) That said word logon system was to block third party systems from interoperating with Google.
Finally, why was this put on Slashdot when there is absolutely no link to any article whatsoever to backup the few sentences that make up this story? Since when is some guy's short four sentence oppinion the ENTIRE story, without giving any examples whatsoever?
I believe the same problem is in this one if I remember correctly. The power button is actually located at the top of the FRONT FACE of the phone. Thus, if you hold it up to your ear with your shoulder, you turn the phone off. After turning off the phone 5 times in a month while I was talking, I went out and got a Motorola v600 series. It's the best phone I've ever had.
Microsoft did the right thing by letting the firewall be turned off by another program. Otherwise, people who install SP2 and already have a firewall would be pretty screwed up. Two software firewalls on the same machine is never a good idea.
What really pissed me off was the comment that Zone Alarm people gave that a worm could turn off the firewall. OK....A worm could turn off their product too.
There has also been criticism that the firewall doesn't block outgoing connections. I guarantee you if they did do that, firewall manufacturers and "Type A" slashdot readers would be crying anti-trust.
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...that a lot more people would contribute if they didn't have to learn a whole new markup language to do so, regardless of financial incentives. If they simply made a GUI to mark up the articles, I would put money that more people would contribute.
Proof is in the pudding:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/willplatnick/334265255/
Because IIS is easy, secure (no critical updates for IIS 6 ever!) and can run ASP.NET/Python/PHP/Perl and anything else you can throw at it with very little configuration. The application pool isolation is also a very nice feature for those who came from IIS 5, so one web site can't bring down an entire box. There are tons and tons of IIS resources on the Net, and while there may be more Apache information, that is only because there is less to know for IIS, it just works.
Security issues? Sounds like somebody just likes to spew anti-ms propgrada without knowing the facts. IIS 6 has had NO critical security vulnerabilities since its release with Windows 2003 Server. IIS 6 is WAY more secure than Apache.
The addition of all these new distro's is a TERRIBLE thing. Every single distro does its own thing and there is no standardization whatsoever. It's terrible. People complained and mocked Microsoft about Windows Vista because it will have 7 different releases. I ask those people this, how many different distributions of Linux are there? Which one do you think consumers would have a harder time understanding?
When the kids get out in the real world, they're going to learn that all the applications they learned aren't used anywhere in the business world. Not only that, but the cost of upgrading the computers isn't that great, extremely deep discounts are given to academic places. In fact, under their SPLA, if for some reason you are short on cash, you can pay around $7/month for each copy of Windows XP. If you even called Microsoft you may even be able to finagle cheaper licenses, as they want to make sure their product is in the schools, ESPECIALLY if you drop the "we'd like to use Linux bomb". Ultimately, I feel that while Linux is better OS in a lot of cases, until it has more market reach, kids should be learning on what they will use, and what they use at home. Not only that, but Unix administrators generally cost more than Windows administrators, should anything happen to you.
Earlier in the thread you called someone a windows elitist simply because he voiced his opinion, yet you too were there fighting tooth and nail to make sure you have enough ammunition to do what you want to do. If you're going to post an Ask Slashdot, you are going to get differing opinions than yours. If you were looking for something to concretely backup your statement, Ask Slashdot is not the place to do it. Besides, what administrator actually cares what a bunch of self-proclaimed geeks on a web site think about the issue?
Just say salt, don't be so fucking pretentious.
Why would they try and make this infastructure? So it can also be taken down when this shit happens again? I would not invest ANYTHING in any kind of infastructure down there until local and federal officials decide on a course of action for rebuilding the town in such a way that this won't happen again. If they can't do that, it's time to go elsewhere.
Fuck web kiosks! The people fucking need FOOD and WATER! Jesus people, get your priorities straight.
Google, whose philosophy was once "do no evil" falls off the wagon, and you say "good for them!" and you want to do the exact same thing? Where are your principles?
..., but I hope it is true.]
The only thing I'm worried about as a business owner is staying in business. If I'm sued to death over a patent, I lose money that could be going towards innovation. It sucks, but it's the way things are at the moment. Should things be different? Absolutely, but they're not.
Just give up the fight? Accept that things are wrong and need fixing?
There definitely needs to be fixing, but you have to keep your business operating at the same time.
The collective cost of allowing this software patent crap to continue is far more than a few petty lawsuits. [Yes, I did pull that factoid out of my
At least you admit you have no basis for that statement.
I hate the game, so I'm gonna do my best to stop it, and in the meanwhile -- I'm not playing!
Good, I'm glad you want to change things, but those are the rules at the moment. We can't all afford to live with a common disconnect with reality.
While it appears inevitable that people are going to flame Google for doing this, if I were running a business I would do the exact same thing.
The current state of technology patents is dreadful. To us technology people, many of the patents just appear to be common sense? Patents are being granted left and right for things that just seem normal and easy to us. Unfortunately, that is the way things are...for now. If you are operating a business, it is in your best interest to try and patent everything you do. If you don't, someone else will and then sue you for infringing on their patents. Trust me, the cost of trying to file patents is nothing compared to the cost of being sued for patent infringement.
So don't blame Google or Microsoft or Amazon. For lack of a better euphemism, don't hate the player, hate the game.
Other than price, I don't understand why anybody would NOT want to use Office for OS X. The OS X Office team is completely different than the Windows Office team. Anybody who has even taken a few minutes with Office on the Mac can realize it's the best office suite for any platform, period. It's got the performane and an oustanding UI to match. Not only does it beat the pants off of any open source contenders right now, but it also kicks Office for Windows butt too. It's an oustanding product all around and I for one would never want an alternative to the best.
Don't these people realize nobody takes a bunch of hippies seriously?
I've dealt with Microsoft support several times. I work with a Microsoft Certified Partner and their support has never been anything but outstanding. If you have 5 incidents, then you have 5 incidents, they will not make you pay for anything. I've come to them with some really tough question and they've never been able to NOT solve a problem.
Before any more people go and post about how calling Microsoft for support costs money, please remember the following:
1) If the place is a Microsoft shop with a bunch of servers 10-20+, they're most likely a Microsoft Certified Partner who get X amount of free trouble support requests per year. And if YOU solve the trouble shooting or if you bring a question to them that there is NO way you could know or find the answer to, they do not charge/deduct credits. As long as you've done your research and have tried everything to fix the problem, you're most likely not going to be charged.
2) "Support" isn't just calling Microsoft. It also consists of paying on-staff administrators to support everything. The admin(s) that are currently there, if it's a Microsoft shop, are probably MCSA/MCSE's and most likely not that well trained in Linux. For a mid-size business, a salary of 40-60K for another admin is probably a very prohibitive expense.
** This is not flamebait, I am just trying to make a point **
"Hi,
I'm a typical Slashdot reader. Even though the story doesn't give any details at all and is barely 5 sentences long, I am going to take is as truth despite lacking any real proof or evidence and then start blabbering about how much I hate Microsoft."
Now, I'm not saying they DIDN'T do it, it sounds like something a business would do. But this piece of "journalism" is not enough to condemn Microsoft for anything. That is by far the poorest execuse for a news article I've ever seen and nothing in it should be taken as fact.
and I'll say it again. While I certainly would like to think the automatic DMCA notices are faulty with any degree of regularity. I used to be in charge of getting the DMCA notices for a University and enforcing the notice. I didn't like doing it because I personally hate the DMCA>
However, out of ~500 notices, not a single one has been wrong. Only one person tried to get out of it, but he was lieing through his teeth, as he said he never traded files on IRC, when we have logs of him doing so. (And no, he wasn't hacked)
The DMCA notices are pretty reliable, but there will be errors, just like there will be with any system. For example, spam filters mis-labeling a real e-mail as spam.
And, if you want to fight the DMCA notice, all you have to do is fill out a really quick form, and that's the end of that. Not a big deal. You shouldn't have to do it at all, but it's still not a big deal.
It's all in the delivery =P
Unlike the Apple Mouse, the whole left and right side's are buttons. A friend of mine tried one out and he constantly complained that because he rests his hand on his mouse, he mistakingly clicked all over the place. The Apple Mouse, although it has only one button, is only pressure sensitive at the top.
First off, I think it's great that a distribution is doing this. If you're a Linux evangelist, I would imagine a Live-CD may not do everything you want to do.
But, the main point of this post is to ask how is this a viable alternative to a laptop? I always defined viable alternative as a product that offers a similiar product set designed to do the same job. How exactly is a hard drive loaded with Linux comprable to a laptop?
Where on earth did the author get the idea that:
A) That there IS a word logon system currently implemented.
B) That said word logon system was to block third party systems from interoperating with Google.
Finally, why was this put on Slashdot when there is absolutely no link to any article whatsoever to backup the few sentences that make up this story? Since when is some guy's short four sentence oppinion the ENTIRE story, without giving any examples whatsoever?
I believe the same problem is in this one if I remember correctly. The power button is actually located at the top of the FRONT FACE of the phone. Thus, if you hold it up to your ear with your shoulder, you turn the phone off. After turning off the phone 5 times in a month while I was talking, I went out and got a Motorola v600 series. It's the best phone I've ever had.
Microsoft did the right thing by letting the firewall be turned off by another program. Otherwise, people who install SP2 and already have a firewall would be pretty screwed up. Two software firewalls on the same machine is never a good idea.
What really pissed me off was the comment that Zone Alarm people gave that a worm could turn off the firewall. OK....A worm could turn off their product too.
There has also been criticism that the firewall doesn't block outgoing connections. I guarantee you if they did do that, firewall manufacturers and "Type A" slashdot readers would be crying anti-trust.
My crappy speakers make a noise 2 seconds before my phone or my neighbor's cell phone starts ringing.
Only on Slashdot would they start talking about huge storage arrays and title it "for the common man"