I had a chap turn up to collect a van from me once which I had sold through eBay. He brought a discount voucher, or what he considered to be one, in the form of three thugs who specified on arrival that the price had been lowered by 50%.
eBay had no interest, but as a seller I could at least use negative feedback to warn others, so next time he tried to do the same, the seller could be ready with some friends of their own.
I'm amazed to hear all you American's complaining about gas prices, I'd love to have your prices here
You want to know what really sucks, $11-$12/gallon, the price here in the UK, that really sucks
Where do you get this moronic idea that there are more internet users in the US than the rest of the world combined?
Can I have some of what you've been smoking, in fact, can I have it all, you seem to have had enough already
Because we're mostly americans Which "we" would that be?
"We" the users of the internet?, in which case you're way wrong, or "we" the small minded xenophobes at the annual troll convention, in which case your opinion, like your timezones, is worthless.
There's a large country with lots of people in it you might have heard of - it's called "not-America-land". It's population is larger than that of the USA and yet you have no idea it exists.
I'd hate to be your kind of patriot - your nation was founded when the citizens decided it would be a good idea to oppose the British colonial government, yet now you would willfully deny and belittle the protests of modern day dissenters. I feel really sorry for you, exisiting only in your lonely shallow tiny little world of patriotic hate and fear.
The erosion of our civil liberties and freedoms in the name of security must surely be one of the most important facing us all today. We in the West have espoused the ideals of freedom and liberty for all for over 50 years now. If the ethos of our society is to shift so dramatically then the consequences of that will be far reaching indeed.
focus your pathetic and impotent hate upon.
Want to see pathetic and impotent? Look in the mirror
I beg to disagree, laziness is entirely relevant to the discussion at hand.
That's the real problem, laziness and lack of confidence.
The majority of people either won't make the effort or don't believe they can make any difference when it comes to calling their government to account.
I remember attending the tests of the baggage containers described.
They worked really well, but I can understand why sensible people (not governments) see their adoption as futile. One would expect terrorists to calculate required explosive yield - adopting reinforced containers like this would just lead to more hand luggage or body carried bombs, or larger explosive yield ones.
It's nigh on impossible to prevent or even deter determined people in such an act unless they make a mistake, or trust the wrong person. That's why we need to start asking the question "why are they doing this, and why are they doing it to us". The answer to that question is what will prevent future attacks
"Unfortunately, this trade agreement....will pretty much do just that, it will unify laws to what the US, and the other top IP countries want."
There are no other top IP countries being considered here. This is just an extension of the jack-booted lobbyists seeing an opportunity to destroy our liberties as they have those of US citizens already. An opportunity for the USA to try and earn more money from its worldwide empire
Won't the USA just invade us if we dare to protest, lock us all up in Gitmo?
It's seems a pointless and bizarre inclusion to the product's features
In any event, wouldn't we just download some little trick program from a bittorrent site somewhere to "fix" any files which don't play while the accompanying trojan sends our credit card details to the Russian mafia.
Nasty Muslims, not like the good honest god fearing white Christians who committed genocide on a mass scale in the USA, Scotland, Ireland, Persia, Jordan, Palestine (before the state of Israel) etc etc etc.
Not to mention burning women alive for any reason they felt like, slavery, paedophilia etc
Incidentally the reason I mention paedophilia comes back to P2P a bit. While the material might come from those parts of the world you regard as less civilised, the demand comes almost entirely from the West - the white Christian and civilised non-muslim west. Similarly a visit to Bangkok will show quickly who are the target consumers for the services of all the child prostitutes
You need to widen your viewpoint beyond the YouTube vs Bittorrent question to some broader issues
1. As a general principle, WTF gives one user more right to bandwidth then another user when both pay the same for it?
2. If you erode neutrality then surely dollars, not data classes, will decide precedence. Do any of us want an Internet effectively "owned" by Microsoft, AOL and News International?
By narrowing the argument in this way you are failing to consider the wider consequences of any such change
Interesting footnote to all the Americans ranting about Comcast on here.
When the current UK cable service was launched in 1993/4, a nice man from Comcast came round and promised us unlimited forever, exponentially increasing bandwidth year on year, and fibre to the door within 5 years.
Then they sold up to NTL, who continued same promises (except the fibre bit).
Admittedly they could not have forseen the explosion in bandwidth demand then, but surely it's been obviously coming for the last few years. Easily long enough for them to have formulated a cost model and rolled it out.
The ISP's have driven prices down to a level they can no longer support - that's nobody's fault but theirs surely.
Yes but it's a no brainer that such a QoS system would, in the end, evolve into a fee paid service delivered by the ISP in question, who would change the tags according to fees paid buy the content provider. So, homepages etc would trave through the network at 20 bits per hour, while anything from News International Corp or Disney would get 1G/s. The poor user at the end would just become a paying victim of this QoS.
But surely this is nothing different to what American film directors have been doing to countless book for decades, and also to historical facts, U571 etc.
Simple answer, don't watch his films. I don't.
RIAA is a US organisation. If they pass a US law requiring this, would they produce a non-USA, non-DRM version of their CPU's as the EEC & others would certainly require them to, I don't think so, and for that reason alone the vampire's idea will come to nothing.
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I had a chap turn up to collect a van from me once which I had sold through eBay. He brought a discount voucher, or what he considered to be one, in the form of three thugs who specified on arrival that the price had been lowered by 50%. eBay had no interest, but as a seller I could at least use negative feedback to warn others, so next time he tried to do the same, the seller could be ready with some friends of their own.
I'm amazed to hear all you American's complaining about gas prices, I'd love to have your prices here You want to know what really sucks, $11-$12/gallon, the price here in the UK, that really sucks
Where do you get this moronic idea that there are more internet users in the US than the rest of the world combined? Can I have some of what you've been smoking, in fact, can I have it all, you seem to have had enough already
The erosion of our civil liberties and freedoms in the name of security must surely be one of the most important facing us all today. We in the West have espoused the ideals of freedom and liberty for all for over 50 years now. If the ethos of our society is to shift so dramatically then the consequences of that will be far reaching indeed.
focus your pathetic and impotent hate upon.Want to see pathetic and impotent? Look in the mirror
I beg to disagree, laziness is entirely relevant to the discussion at hand. That's the real problem, laziness and lack of confidence. The majority of people either won't make the effort or don't believe they can make any difference when it comes to calling their government to account.
I remember attending the tests of the baggage containers described. They worked really well, but I can understand why sensible people (not governments) see their adoption as futile. One would expect terrorists to calculate required explosive yield - adopting reinforced containers like this would just lead to more hand luggage or body carried bombs, or larger explosive yield ones. It's nigh on impossible to prevent or even deter determined people in such an act unless they make a mistake, or trust the wrong person. That's why we need to start asking the question "why are they doing this, and why are they doing it to us". The answer to that question is what will prevent future attacks
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Waterboarding's not torture if it's done to someone we don't like
There are no other top IP countries being considered here. This is just an extension of the jack-booted lobbyists seeing an opportunity to destroy our liberties as they have those of US citizens already. An opportunity for the USA to try and earn more money from its worldwide empire
Won't the USA just invade us if we dare to protest, lock us all up in Gitmo?
The effects of sound on the human body are dependant on frequency as well as overall volume
It's seems a pointless and bizarre inclusion to the product's features In any event, wouldn't we just download some little trick program from a bittorrent site somewhere to "fix" any files which don't play while the accompanying trojan sends our credit card details to the Russian mafia.
Lool, I do love the righteous indignation
Nasty Muslims, not like the good honest god fearing white Christians who committed genocide on a mass scale in the USA, Scotland, Ireland, Persia, Jordan, Palestine (before the state of Israel) etc etc etc.
Not to mention burning women alive for any reason they felt like, slavery, paedophilia etc
Incidentally the reason I mention paedophilia comes back to P2P a bit. While the material might come from those parts of the world you regard as less civilised, the demand comes almost entirely from the West - the white Christian and civilised non-muslim west. Similarly a visit to Bangkok will show quickly who are the target consumers for the services of all the child prostitutes
You need to widen your viewpoint beyond the YouTube vs Bittorrent question to some broader issues
1. As a general principle, WTF gives one user more right to bandwidth then another user when both pay the same for it?
2. If you erode neutrality then surely dollars, not data classes, will decide precedence. Do any of us want an Internet effectively "owned" by Microsoft, AOL and News International?
By narrowing the argument in this way you are failing to consider the wider consequences of any such change
Interesting footnote to all the Americans ranting about Comcast on here. When the current UK cable service was launched in 1993/4, a nice man from Comcast came round and promised us unlimited forever, exponentially increasing bandwidth year on year, and fibre to the door within 5 years. Then they sold up to NTL, who continued same promises (except the fibre bit). Admittedly they could not have forseen the explosion in bandwidth demand then, but surely it's been obviously coming for the last few years. Easily long enough for them to have formulated a cost model and rolled it out. The ISP's have driven prices down to a level they can no longer support - that's nobody's fault but theirs surely.
Yes but it's a no brainer that such a QoS system would, in the end, evolve into a fee paid service delivered by the ISP in question, who would change the tags according to fees paid buy the content provider. So, homepages etc would trave through the network at 20 bits per hour, while anything from News International Corp or Disney would get 1G/s. The poor user at the end would just become a paying victim of this QoS.
But surely this is nothing different to what American film directors have been doing to countless book for decades, and also to historical facts, U571 etc. Simple answer, don't watch his films. I don't.
Secondly they are in a police station which often houses not only police but also other suspected criminals.
RIAA is a US organisation. If they pass a US law requiring this, would they produce a non-USA, non-DRM version of their CPU's as the EEC & others would certainly require them to, I don't think so, and for that reason alone the vampire's idea will come to nothing.