Personally, I'd much rather sit down curled up on the couch or in my lazyboy with my books. Computers are great sources of information (depending on how they're used), but it is NOT the same as a book
On the otherhand, some books are just hard to find, and would be much appreciated, though maybe only by a few, if they could still be found in some form
Another person in the AF huh? well, i dunno if i agree with everything you said, but a large portion of it yes. (course i've only had to put up with one base so far since school.
I personally have been using cox@home for about 5 or 6 months. They impose a limit of 3 ip's per household (maybe i'm crazy, but i sure as hell have 6 full systems set up that all want their network time). They will not offer us anymore IPs unless we switch to cox@work....hmm...$900 install fee and about 300 a month...NO. I could however then setup my firewall (they discouraged it when i spoke to them over the phone and saw no use for it, but some tracing proved otherwise IMHO). Ok, so they don't want us using napster or gnutella any longer, the isp almost got banned from Usenet, and thanks to all the spammers on @home, its next to impossible to find an IRC server that will let you on. Soon we'll not be allowed to use AIM or ICQ due to network restrictions since we can't share files. Anyone know a good cable ISP in the VA area that WILL let me use server software and such?
whats the deal with spam anyway, do the people sending out the spam make a profit or what? Filters are great things, but they don't always work, be it varying origins or some that filter by subject, but thats only maybe 50% effective. Also what about the damn chain mail, are people really all that stupid. AND for anyone lame enough to do it, HOTMAIL IS NOT GOING TO SEND ONE EMAIL TO ONE PERSON, AND EXPECT THEM TO FWD IT OUT TO ALL THEY KNOW USING HOTMAIL TO KEEP THEIR ACCOUNTS OPEN. sorry, just a little rant, i've recieved so much spam today i could open a resteraunt. */end rant/*
"Thz" switches sound great and all, but what about the rest of the hardware. Motherboard busses are still realtively nothing in comparison, Harddisk transer rates still kinda blow (for IDE anyway), and lets just not talk about the advances in floppy drives over the past, I dunno, 12 years. Yes Zipdrives and such are nice, but aside from CDROM and 3.5 Floppy, theres not anyother real standard.
rant on
Give us a machine utilizing what we've been "told" technology can do (at a resonable price) then put this on the market. I want my Optical data storage (from a roll of scotch tape) or better, my 1ghz network transfer speeds, and wtf ever that keeps making the news that we never see
sound familiar? kids spying on people and turning them in, letting big brother deal with them....
on the other hand, katz has yet another over wordy article, however this one he does imho bring up some decent points for a debate, though i'm still curious as to his own views on this and the other posts
I'm one of the lucky ones for a technological field i suppose. I actually only spend 40 hours a week at work, but the amount of time spent actually working, well, to say 20 hours a week would still be streching the truth...
Also the shop i'm in rotates pager schedules, so none of us are on call 24/7. Usually only a week or two a month.
The truly fortunate thing for us, is that we don't really have to work all that often. Unless something is broken, we don't really have anything to fix, unfortunatly that can make for a really boring day as well.
so some crackers/scriptkiddies/government(?) agents take down a few sites by flooding them with traffic. the FBI releases tools for *nix machines etc, and now the attack is being blamed soley on Linux and Solaris systems? So whats going on is: 1. Microsoft Realizes a threat 2. M$ Pays off the government and press 3. Linux gets a bad rep. 4. People pay the full $219.xx - $389.xx for win2K and M$ cashes in on the profits. I think this is a resonable explanation!
has no opinoins of his own, or if he does he doesn't express them. but he does (occasionally) mangae to get some decent discussions going on slashdot, even though 9/10ths of the posts are flames toward him.
the post anonymous button would be nice right now...
anyway, VIIDS = visual imagery and intrusion detection systems: ie. my current job. (yes, also government)
this much i will tell you, the majority of the equipment used (and i don't know about NSA) but for priority A and B resources (being Nucelar Weapons and Armed Fighters/Weapons Storage areas, etc.) DO NOT have all that hi-tech junk you see on tv. up until recently our annunciator system was a hunk of metal developed by the navy back in the 60-70's. the rest is mainly motion detectors, sensors, etc.
These aren't used so much to prevent ppl from getting in, but also to deter admitance. (Don't worry though, should u get in, there are cops in there still who have full athority to shoot you). In fact almost daily i see a sign that states "Use of Deadly Force is Authorized".
As far as if you were to try and hack the computer annunciator systems, well, first you'd have to get access to them, they're not on an outside network, so good luck there.
basically, if someone once this stuff bad enough, they can get it. It will however take them alot of work, and also would result in probably a lot of damage to the equipment to get it out of the area.
to all the would be's who think they want to try, good luck, and i hope you can run fast cuz i'll shoot your ass too.
you want your politcally correct world? good luck!
Society isn't politically correct, people will be offended, things will be said, people may get their feelings hurt by various strings of 1 and 0's.
Women say they feel sexually harrassed on the web, i say i'm offended when i'm forced to suffer through a "Lifetime Original Movie" when i want to spend time with my wife. I feel offended when I see that our television stations have to have a Black Entertainment Television. Not because I find these degrading toward myself being a 'German-American' (hey, we can hyphinate everything else, i'm gonna hyphinate the fact that my family is originally from germany and be proud of it too). What offends me is that we fuck up our society by trying to make everyone happy and protecting everything.
With freedom comes responisbility, without responsibility we will lose our freedoms. Accept what you cannot change, and change what you cannot accept
Lets stop praying for someone to save us and start saving ourselves -- KMFDM
Is this billy's way of avoiding getting burned as bad as he would have as an acting CEO? Will his fallen reign will be fulfilled by one even more harsh? Forget Y2K, this is truly a sign of the apocolypse.
thats still not all of them, you still have cox@home and i think 2 more that you missed. I know the @home HQ for the US is located in California, and they're services do extend to canada and the east cost (i know, i use cox@home) which is centered in the hampton roads area of va. All these places with so many people do result in negative results for those of us who don't send spam or misuse IRC (i'm still pissed about the irc k-line).
i've been using @home for they're cable connection since the end of last october. They're connection speeds aren't bad, though they're techsupport is useless unless your running a windows system, and even if you're running a windows system, don't try configuring a LAN with they're help. More in regards to the topic at hand, i've personally experienced three (that i know of) IRC k-lines from dal-net, as well as being familiar with the usenet complaints. Though my email from them has yet to be spammed (more than anyother ISP i've been with anyway). IMHO, @homes services just aren't worth it if u have another ISP to go through that will offer u the same class of connection. (or better).
so who wins the award of biggest Arse of the Year? or perhaps best Arse of the Year? Now THAT is a viable question that no one has really awnsered.... i have a few suggestions, but flamebaiting myself doesn't sound fun right now. I had something worth saying prior to typing this..but it kinda went away.....
well, i managed to read most of the article, though my mind went drifting on the last page, no offense ppl but i could care less about Silicon Valleys BDSM fetishes and such.
As everyone else has stated the psuedo-code is really fxckin annonying (though i did think the first portion was kinda funny) then its redundent.
This in closing is primarily for Salon, and a little bit for/. WHY? How many people are truly all that interested in the sex lives of Silicon Valley, and the rest of the technoholics personal lives?...Did we all like suddenly become symbols of American culture?...Is Linus, Gates, or Jobs (etc.) staring in an intence romance movie or become sex-symbols?
yes, i did the same last march, though i was never "blessed" with the child plug-in and haven't yet managed to get that install procedure completed. While mine does have the option of a minimize, it is an unstable release and dosen't always do what its supposed too...still some sproatic attivity occasionally. to bad i don't have the source code to hack it...
Don't protect my system for me, thats my job. People are afraid of having their credit cards stolen from ecommerce, don't use it. Don't want our children seeing the 'vile filth' of the world? Use filters, moderate what they see and when they can see it, and don't dare come to me when your kids won't listen to you anymore because you kept them in such a sheltered life. By controlling peoples technology, what do we have? more ebullshit.com of everything, and more lawsuits. A waste of money on an open battle field in which (i hope) the government will lose. Computer crimes result because of someone who is smart enough to figure out where someone else didn't do their job. Which frightens and/or repulses YOU more? Walking the streets seeing the homeless, the drug dealers, the possible rapist or theif. Or the computer gurus?
lets face it the millitary isn't the most sophisticated when it comes to there computers. The majority of the workstations (from my own experience). Are still Running on windows 95 (a few are 98 and NT systems). Where i'm currently at, this is a winblows95, connected to NT domains. At least the NT domains are then connected to Linux servers (DNS servers i believe). (THeres one point for the Millitary). Aside from that, most of the ppl here don't know much about computer security aside from: don't give out your password use a screensaver password.....and shutdown your computer at night (almost forgot that one)
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Personally, I'd much rather sit down curled up on the couch or in my lazyboy with my books. Computers are great sources of information (depending on how they're used), but it is NOT the same as a book
On the otherhand, some books are just hard to find, and would be much appreciated, though maybe only by a few, if they could still be found in some form
just my -.02 rambaling
Another person in the AF huh?
well, i dunno if i agree with everything you said, but a large portion of it yes. (course i've only had to put up with one base so far since school.
email me. xianzombie@home.com
I personally have been using cox@home for about 5 or 6 months. They impose a limit of 3 ip's per household (maybe i'm crazy, but i sure as hell have 6 full systems set up that all want their network time). They will not offer us anymore IPs unless we switch to cox@work ....hmm...$900 install fee and about 300 a month...NO. I could however then setup my firewall (they discouraged it when i spoke to them over the phone and saw no use for it, but some tracing proved otherwise IMHO).
Ok, so they don't want us using napster or gnutella any longer, the isp almost got banned from Usenet, and thanks to all the spammers on @home, its next to impossible to find an IRC server that will let you on.
Soon we'll not be allowed to use AIM or ICQ due to network restrictions since we can't share files.
Anyone know a good cable ISP in the VA area that WILL let me use server software and such?
whats the deal with spam anyway, do the people sending out the spam make a profit or what? Filters are great things, but they don't always work, be it varying origins or some that filter by subject, but thats only maybe 50% effective.
Also what about the damn chain mail, are people really all that stupid. AND for anyone lame enough to do it, HOTMAIL IS NOT GOING TO SEND ONE EMAIL TO ONE PERSON, AND EXPECT THEM TO FWD IT OUT TO ALL THEY KNOW USING HOTMAIL TO KEEP THEIR ACCOUNTS OPEN.
sorry, just a little rant, i've recieved so much spam today i could open a resteraunt.
*/end rant/*
I think the puppet on the left shares my beliefs
No, I think the puppet on the right shares mine
Hey its the same guy holding both puppets
GO BACK TO SLEEP AMERICA, YOU GOVERNMENT IS IN CONTROL
This post is dedicated in loving memory of Bill Hicks
oh fuck
"Thz" switches sound great and all, but what about the rest of the hardware. Motherboard busses are still realtively nothing in comparison, Harddisk transer rates still kinda blow (for IDE anyway), and lets just not talk about the advances in floppy drives over the past, I dunno, 12 years. Yes Zipdrives and such are nice, but aside from CDROM and 3.5 Floppy, theres not anyother real standard.
rant on
Give us a machine utilizing what we've been "told" technology can do (at a resonable price) then put this on the market. I want my Optical data storage (from a roll of scotch tape) or better, my 1ghz network transfer speeds, and wtf ever that keeps making the news that we never see
So what they get is a "I Harrased the School Geek, and all I got was this Stupid T-Shirt"?
i don't get it
on the other hand, katz has yet another over wordy article, however this one he does imho bring up some decent points for a debate, though i'm still curious as to his own views on this and the other posts
I'm one of the lucky ones for a technological field i suppose. I actually only spend 40 hours a week at work, but the amount of time spent actually working, well, to say 20 hours a week would still be streching the truth...
Also the shop i'm in rotates pager schedules, so none of us are on call 24/7. Usually only a week or two a month.
The truly fortunate thing for us, is that we don't really have to work all that often. Unless something is broken, we don't really have anything to fix, unfortunatly that can make for a really boring day as well.
so some crackers/scriptkiddies/government(?) agents take down a few sites by flooding them with traffic. the FBI releases tools for *nix machines etc, and now the attack is being blamed soley on Linux and Solaris systems?
So whats going on is:
1. Microsoft Realizes a threat
2. M$ Pays off the government and press
3. Linux gets a bad rep.
4. People pay the full $219.xx - $389.xx for win2K and M$ cashes in on the profits.
I think this is a resonable explanation!
has no opinoins of his own, or if he does he doesn't express them. but he does (occasionally) mangae to get some decent discussions going on slashdot, even though 9/10ths of the posts are flames toward him.
i would have just read it.
I personally don't flame Katz, but next time how about a review instead of the details
the post anonymous button would be nice right now...
anyway, VIIDS = visual imagery and intrusion detection systems: ie. my current job. (yes, also government)
this much i will tell you, the majority of the equipment used (and i don't know about NSA) but for priority A and B resources (being Nucelar Weapons and Armed Fighters/Weapons Storage areas, etc.) DO NOT have all that hi-tech junk you see on tv. up until recently our annunciator system was a hunk of metal developed by the navy back in the 60-70's. the rest is mainly motion detectors, sensors, etc.
These aren't used so much to prevent ppl from getting in, but also to deter admitance. (Don't worry though, should u get in, there are cops in there still who have full athority to shoot you). In fact almost daily i see a sign that states "Use of Deadly Force is Authorized".
As far as if you were to try and hack the computer annunciator systems, well, first you'd have to get access to them, they're not on an outside network, so good luck there.
basically, if someone once this stuff bad enough, they can get it. It will however take them alot of work, and also would result in probably a lot of damage to the equipment to get it out of the area.
to all the would be's who think they want to try, good luck, and i hope you can run fast cuz i'll shoot your ass too.
you want your politcally correct world? good luck!
Society isn't politically correct, people will be offended, things will be said, people may get their feelings hurt by various strings of 1 and 0's.
Women say they feel sexually harrassed on the web, i say i'm offended when i'm forced to suffer through a "Lifetime Original Movie" when i want to spend time with my wife. I feel offended when I see that our television stations have to have a Black Entertainment Television. Not because I find these degrading toward myself being a 'German-American' (hey, we can hyphinate everything else, i'm gonna hyphinate the fact that my family is originally from germany and be proud of it too). What offends me is that we fuck up our society by trying to make everyone happy and protecting everything.
With freedom comes responisbility, without responsibility we will lose our freedoms. Accept what you cannot change, and change what you cannot accept
Lets stop praying for someone to save us and start saving ourselves -- KMFDM
Is this billy's way of avoiding getting burned as bad as he would have as an acting CEO? Will his fallen reign will be fulfilled by one even more harsh? Forget Y2K, this is truly a sign of the apocolypse.
thats still not all of them, you still have cox@home and i think 2 more that you missed. I know the @home HQ for the US is located in California, and they're services do extend to canada and the east cost (i know, i use cox@home) which is centered in the hampton roads area of va. All these places with so many people do result in negative results for those of us who don't send spam or misuse IRC (i'm still pissed about the irc k-line).
i've been using @home for they're cable connection since the end of last october. They're connection speeds aren't bad, though they're techsupport is useless unless your running a windows system, and even if you're running a windows system, don't try configuring a LAN with they're help. More in regards to the topic at hand, i've personally experienced three (that i know of) IRC k-lines from dal-net, as well as being familiar with the usenet complaints. Though my email from them has yet to be spammed (more than anyother ISP i've been with anyway). IMHO, @homes services just aren't worth it if u have another ISP to go through that will offer u the same class of connection. (or better).
so who wins the award of biggest Arse of the Year?
or perhaps best Arse of the Year?
Now THAT is a viable question that no one has really awnsered....
i have a few suggestions, but flamebaiting myself doesn't sound fun right now.
I had something worth saying prior to typing this..but it kinda went away.....
Begin Rant:
well, i managed to read most of the article, though my mind went drifting on the last page, no offense ppl but i could care less about Silicon Valleys BDSM fetishes and such.
As everyone else has stated the psuedo-code is really fxckin annonying (though i did think the first portion was kinda funny) then its redundent.
This in closing is primarily for Salon, and a little bit for /. WHY? How many people are truly all that interested in the sex lives of Silicon Valley, and the rest of the technoholics personal lives? ...Did we all like suddenly become symbols of American culture? ...Is Linus, Gates, or Jobs (etc.) staring in an intence romance movie or become sex-symbols?
END RANT
PS. Sorry bout that....
yes, i did the same last march, though i was never "blessed" with the child plug-in and haven't yet managed to get that install procedure completed. While mine does have the option of a minimize, it is an unstable release and dosen't always do what its supposed too...still some sproatic attivity occasionally. to bad i don't have the source code to hack it...
just what we need a trinity of tyranny? After Gates could just by enough stock in all of them to control them still (go network, disney, whatelse?)
Don't protect my system for me, thats my job. People are afraid of having their credit cards stolen from ecommerce, don't use it. Don't want our children seeing the 'vile filth' of the world? Use filters, moderate what they see and when they can see it, and don't dare come to me when your kids won't listen to you anymore because you kept them in such a sheltered life. By controlling peoples technology, what do we have? more ebullshit.com of everything, and more lawsuits. A waste of money on an open battle field in which (i hope) the government will lose. Computer crimes result because of someone who is smart enough to figure out where someone else didn't do their job. Which frightens and/or repulses YOU more? Walking the streets seeing the homeless, the drug dealers, the possible rapist or theif. Or the computer gurus?
i forgot to mention that i'm probably getting in some kinda shit for that last post...
lets face it the millitary isn't the most sophisticated when it comes to there computers. The majority of the workstations (from my own experience). Are still Running on windows 95 (a few are 98 and NT systems). Where i'm currently at, this is a winblows95, connected to NT domains. At least the NT domains are then connected to Linux servers (DNS servers i believe). (THeres one point for the Millitary). Aside from that, most of the ppl here don't know much about computer security aside from: don't give out your password use a screensaver password .....and shutdown your computer at night (almost forgot that one)