Where the fuck does the poster get his info from? Here's what the article said: "Starting with the 1999 model year, all GM vehicles had EDRs..." Somehow, that translates into "All cars with airbags"!
No they will not "merge the worlds." Perhaps you're not familar with the Everquest server setup. They have 20 or 30 or whatever different servers, and each server is a unique world. I mean, the geography and quests and everything is the same, but players on one server are completely and utterly seperate from players on another server. So the concerns about having to play with people who have been playing for years is moot, because you could just play on a brand new server. Also, they claim that the reason why Mac and PC players can't play together is due to "technical difficulties". Sounds like bullshit to me...
How did you get a t68 from AT&T? I'd very much like to get one, but I can't find it one their website. Is it brick and mortar only, perhaps? And if you don't mind my asking, how much did you pay?
Uhh....I fail to see how I was complaining about lack of catering towards my proprietary OS. The thread parent said that everyone should just use Windows for games instead of emulating.
Perhaps you should work on your reading skills before you post.
Apple users are now, for the most part, Unix users, too. And there are games that they may want to run that won't work under VirtualPC that just might work under WINE or WineX. Apple users don't have the luxury of being able to install a MS OS natively.
Uhh....most people who have played a GBA for any amount of time know that even the BEST external light option (even if modded) is NOT sufficient to play games such as Castlevania in most conditions. The Afterburner requires soldering of TWO points, and it's not even very precise soldering. Finally, you can get NEW GBAs for $50, online, so if you're out $120, you're a sucker.
Well, according to EEs it may be flawed, but on actual real-life performance, it's excellent. The integrated network is flawless, and the onboard sound is the best availible (onboard sound wise, at least). I have bought multiple copies of this board, and find it far better than mediocre. And I'm not just saying that because I bought the board. It's simply the best 266a board out there.
Okay..I'm probably going to get meta-moderated down quite a bit for what I've just mod'ed, but, people are talking out of their asses, I do believe. Soyo, starting with the Dragon, has turned it's company around. They may have been shoddy in the past, but the Dragon series is some of the BEST motherboards availible for AMD TBird/XP. Check out ANY review done by ANY hardware enthusiast site. Go, ask any hardware forum... www.hardforum.com www.arstechnica.com www.anandtech.com or whatever. The Dragons for P4 are a bit untested ATM, but for AMD-based systems, it's another thing altogether. I think I'm going to get mod'ed down for flaimbait, but, you know, slashdot users are kinda ignorant when it comes to the latest hardware, as seen by the often "oh look, here's a new thing" posts that refer to things that are old and redundant.
what the FUCK IS GOING ON WITH SLASHDOT? So far, this is like the 3rd or 4th posting that has been nothing but a cheezy, substandard cool article. There are GOOD cooling articles out there, and I'm sorry if nobody from Slashdot knows where they are. This article in particular seems to be coming from a biased reviewer, who is reviewing subpar hardware. There ARE BETTER, CHEAPER KITS OUT THERE. Also, NONE OF THIS IS NEWS, by any stretch of the imagination. A new product announcement, now maybe that would be worthy, but it seems as if every fucking time some slashdot reader comes across a hardware enthusiast site he has to send in a submission about whatever stupid, mundane article is on the front page of said site. ENOUGH!
Actually, about 3 days after that letter went out, they sent one saying that you would be able to use a credit card online within 10 days, and also gave simplified payment instructions.
I know an equal number of people who have had powersupplys short out on them frying their mobo, and whatever else, and people who have had heatsinks and fans give up and die, also frying their mobo and cpu. Failures happen no matter what kind of hardware you're using. By going with the Koolance though, you're actually reducing your chances of watercooling meltdown, since everything arrives mostly preassembled. A novice putting together a watercooling system would have a better chance of fucking something up.
I didn't say $250 is LOW, but it's perfectly reasonable. Take a decent case -$80, a decent waterblock -$40, a heatercore -$20, tubing, clamps, -$30, and you're at $170 already without shipping, and whatever other incidentals. Plus, they have a nice temperture readout system and decent fan controls built in.
Yes. Tech support for your case. If something breaks, they have a good track record of fixing it for you under warranty or helping you fix it.
I never implied that it WAS for the geek who never heard of watercooling. I was just saying that those people you were talking about probably have never heard of watercooling.
Why do people spend thousands of dollars to soup up with Hondas when they could just buy a fast car to begin with? It's just a hobby, as much as anything else is that we do. You're right, you can't overclock like 200% anymore, but you can acheieve speeds faster than commercially availible processors. Also, not everybody buys a $250 watercooled case. You can put one together for ~100, although it wouldn't be the best system. The Koolance appeals to a very specific market.. entry-level overclockers/modders. People who'd like to get into watercooling without personally engineering their own system. Also, I know of a few people who DO do their own watercooling, but have a couple of Koolance for servers since they're so quiet.
If you think this is ridiculous, take a look into a VapoChill system. $750 for phase-change cooling. And people are still killing for those systems..
No, this unit cannot be filled with alcohol or ethanol. Alcohol cooling is a much debated topic at http://www.hardforum.com , among other sites, and the general consensus is that it can be done, but very expensively, and most definitely not in just a watercooling system. Among other things, alcohol burns off much quicker, and would require a LOT of refilling.
People have experimented with water additives, but I don't know about aluminum dust. I think somebody has tried some sort of conductive metal dust though. Generally, you're better off with Water Wetter or Jet Dry.
Er...the $250 price tag is actually pretty low, making it one of the primary reasons that people buy a Koolance. If you add up the costs of all the components in a watercooling system (waterblock, pump, radiator, tubing, etc) plus a decent case, you'd be hitting close to that price already. Plus, Koolance builds it all for you and gives you instructions and tech support on it. Also, the Koolance system is much quieter than a decently cooled aircooled system.
And about your comment on who they're targeting...well, for starters, watercooling is nothing new, neither is Koolance or even Tom's review of the new(er) Koolance. And if it was for a "geek who needs every new god damn toy for his computer no matter what the cost" and that thinks that Mhz is of supreme importance, said geek would be running a P4, and probably would never have even heard of watercooling.
You've also forgotten that all overclockers aren't doing it just to be thrifty. A lot of overclockers do it to get as much performance as possible. You can't buy a 2ghz+ AMD chip, but you can overclock to that. Now, I'm not saying that you would use a Koolance to get 2+ ghz, but watercooling is how you would do it, and you seem to be bashing watercooling all together.
Please try to get your facts straight next time you talk.
Slashdot Mirror
Where the fuck does the poster get his info from? Here's what the article said: "Starting with the 1999 model year, all GM vehicles had EDRs..." Somehow, that translates into "All cars with airbags"!
Christ, can we say "karma whoring"?
Yeah, 4'33" is just like using inaudible sound waves to stir-up emotions. I mean, they're both quiet!
eam
No they will not "merge the worlds." Perhaps you're not familar with the Everquest server setup. They have 20 or 30 or whatever different servers, and each server is a unique world. I mean, the geography and quests and everything is the same, but players on one server are completely and utterly seperate from players on another server. So the concerns about having to play with people who have been playing for years is moot, because you could just play on a brand new server. Also, they claim that the reason why Mac and PC players can't play together is due to "technical difficulties". Sounds like bullshit to me...
Same shit, new week.
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eAm
Jeremy Alisson - Samba Team, License to Kill. Makes networking sound like a killing method for elite spies.
How did you get a t68 from AT&T? I'd very much like to get one, but I can't find it one their website. Is it brick and mortar only, perhaps? And if you don't mind my asking, how much did you pay?
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mf
Correct, very correct. But there's nothing to say there's no possiblity of true emulation occuring in the future.
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Right...I never claimed that OS X games were "UNIX" based. But the OS is.
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Uhh....I fail to see how I was complaining about lack of catering towards my proprietary OS. The thread parent said that everyone should just use Windows for games instead of emulating.
Perhaps you should work on your reading skills before you post.
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You forgot at least one thing...
OS X.
Apple users are now, for the most part, Unix users, too. And there are games that they may want to run that won't work under VirtualPC that just might work under WINE or WineX. Apple users don't have the luxury of being able to install a MS OS natively.
Maybe just maybe this could be the Wine that'll run Everquest!
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mf
Uhh....most people who have played a GBA for any amount of time know that even the BEST external light option (even if modded) is NOT sufficient to play games such as Castlevania in most conditions. The Afterburner requires soldering of TWO points, and it's not even very precise soldering. Finally, you can get NEW GBAs for $50, online, so if you're out $120, you're a sucker.
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eam
Well, according to EEs it may be flawed, but on actual real-life performance, it's excellent. The integrated network is flawless, and the onboard sound is the best availible (onboard sound wise, at least). I have bought multiple copies of this board, and find it far better than mediocre. And I'm not just saying that because I bought the board. It's simply the best 266a board out there.
Okay..I'm probably going to get meta-moderated down quite a bit for what I've just mod'ed, but, people are talking out of their asses, I do believe. Soyo, starting with the Dragon, has turned it's company around. They may have been shoddy in the past, but the Dragon series is some of the BEST motherboards availible for AMD TBird/XP. Check out ANY review done by ANY hardware enthusiast site. Go, ask any hardware forum... www.hardforum.com www.arstechnica.com www.anandtech.com or whatever. The Dragons for P4 are a bit untested ATM, but for AMD-based systems, it's another thing altogether. I think I'm going to get mod'ed down for flaimbait, but, you know, slashdot users are kinda ignorant when it comes to the latest hardware, as seen by the often "oh look, here's a new thing" posts that refer to things that are old and redundant.
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matt fucking fury
what the FUCK IS GOING ON WITH SLASHDOT? So far, this is like the 3rd or 4th posting that has been nothing but a cheezy, substandard cool article. There are GOOD cooling articles out there, and I'm sorry if nobody from Slashdot knows where they are. This article in particular seems to be coming from a biased reviewer, who is reviewing subpar hardware. There ARE BETTER, CHEAPER KITS OUT THERE. Also, NONE OF THIS IS NEWS, by any stretch of the imagination. A new product announcement, now maybe that would be worthy, but it seems as if every fucking time some slashdot reader comes across a hardware enthusiast site he has to send in a submission about whatever stupid, mundane article is on the front page of said site. ENOUGH!
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evel aka matt
Actually, about 3 days after that letter went out, they sent one saying that you would be able to use a credit card online within 10 days, and also gave simplified payment instructions.
25% of probes against your servers from a share of people that only makes up %45 of users doesn't sound too bad to me. ;)
I know an equal number of people who have had powersupplys short out on them frying their mobo, and whatever else, and people who have had heatsinks and fans give up and die, also frying their mobo and cpu. Failures happen no matter what kind of hardware you're using. By going with the Koolance though, you're actually reducing your chances of watercooling meltdown, since everything arrives mostly preassembled. A novice putting together a watercooling system would have a better chance of fucking something up.
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matt fury
I didn't say $250 is LOW, but it's perfectly reasonable. Take a decent case -$80, a decent waterblock -$40, a heatercore -$20, tubing, clamps, -$30, and you're at $170 already without shipping, and whatever other incidentals. Plus, they have a nice temperture readout system and decent fan controls built in.
Yes. Tech support for your case. If something breaks, they have a good track record of fixing it for you under warranty or helping you fix it.
I never implied that it WAS for the geek who never heard of watercooling. I was just saying that those people you were talking about probably have never heard of watercooling.
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matt fury
Why do people spend thousands of dollars to soup up with Hondas when they could just buy a fast car to begin with? It's just a hobby, as much as anything else is that we do. You're right, you can't overclock like 200% anymore, but you can acheieve speeds faster than commercially availible processors. Also, not everybody buys a $250 watercooled case. You can put one together for ~100, although it wouldn't be the best system. The Koolance appeals to a very specific market.. entry-level overclockers/modders. People who'd like to get into watercooling without personally engineering their own system. Also, I know of a few people who DO do their own watercooling, but have a couple of Koolance for servers since they're so quiet.
If you think this is ridiculous, take a look into a VapoChill system. $750 for phase-change cooling. And people are still killing for those systems..
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matt fury
just a test...
No, this unit cannot be filled with alcohol or ethanol. Alcohol cooling is a much debated topic at http://www.hardforum.com , among other sites, and the general consensus is that it can be done, but very expensively, and most definitely not in just a watercooling system. Among other things, alcohol burns off much quicker, and would require a LOT of refilling.
People have experimented with water additives, but I don't know about aluminum dust. I think somebody has tried some sort of conductive metal dust though. Generally, you're better off with Water Wetter or Jet Dry.
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matt fury
It dosen't really sound like anything. It's actually quieter than most well aircooled computers (depending on what fan mode you set the Koolance to).
;)
Water bongs on the other hand, DO sound like a babbling brook or waterfall. And can be quite unnerving.
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matt fury
"the Inquisition, what a show.."
...G4 Cube.
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matt fury
"Who knows, Torq..you might win a buck!"
Er...the $250 price tag is actually pretty low, making it one of the primary reasons that people buy a Koolance. If you add up the costs of all the components in a watercooling system (waterblock, pump, radiator, tubing, etc) plus a decent case, you'd be hitting close to that price already. Plus, Koolance builds it all for you and gives you instructions and tech support on it. Also, the Koolance system is much quieter than a decently cooled aircooled system.
And about your comment on who they're targeting...well, for starters, watercooling is nothing new, neither is Koolance or even Tom's review of the new(er) Koolance. And if it was for a "geek who needs every new god damn toy for his computer no matter what the cost" and that thinks that Mhz is of supreme importance, said geek would be running a P4, and probably would never have even heard of watercooling.
You've also forgotten that all overclockers aren't doing it just to be thrifty. A lot of overclockers do it to get as much performance as possible. You can't buy a 2ghz+ AMD chip, but you can overclock to that. Now, I'm not saying that you would use a Koolance to get 2+ ghz, but watercooling is how you would do it, and you seem to be bashing watercooling all together.
Please try to get your facts straight next time you talk.
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matt fury