So my argument is a non-sequitur? Which part of it? That FOSS is easier on the wallet, or that a recession favours cost-cutting? There is a deep recession coming up, and the stockmarket reflects it clearly. If you are uninformed, let me cheer you up. Here's The Economist, part (i):
...stockmarkets into freefall. The Dow Jones Industrial Average finished down by 7%, and suffered its biggest-ever points loss. Perhaps fittingly in an economy that is in danger of sliding into depression, the only stock among the 500 in the S&P index that finished higher was Campbell's Soup. The S&P closed 29% below its peak. Reflecting fears that consumer demand will wilt, shares of Apple Computer, creator of the iPhone, fell by 18%.
A 90-year-old woman about to be evicted in Ohio shot herself last week. (She survived, and the mortgage firm forgave her debt.)
FOSS is a little easier on the wallet than Microsoft. A recession is cost-cutting. OO.org is one nail in the coffin of Microsoft Office. And that is my argument, and it's no non-sequitur, as much as you may like reality to be different. Please refrain from throwing chairs at me.
Why? It's a winner for those pricks. They do not support an open standard (pdf), and their "open" formats get the benefit of the network effects. Meanwhile they point the finger at Adobe. Just the regular fuck-your-customers, fuck-your-competitors, fuck-your-partners, and fuck-justice day at microsoft.
...I've not only RTFA, but also DTFS and UTFS, and the only thing I can say is:
Just in time for a major economic recession, right Mr Ballmer? Now all we need is to get rid of your tax, which, with help from the recession, will be duly done.
This stretching of the earth's crust has been going on for 20 million years, and within another 10 million the Red Sea will have broken through to create a new sea.
I hope they post this shit to youtube; that's gonna be really cool. Pressing reload already.
Or, it's the case of people having other, more interesting things to spend their time learning. I used to be a computer geek, but now stuff like OS' bore the living shit out of me. I have -zero- interest in dicking around with a computer any more than I have to. I have a lot more interesting things to do,like running my business, fixing up my house, studying art, whatever. I wouldn't bother with Linux because to me, it's a complete and total waste of my time.
Hi, Nice point. I am sending you a file called FUNNY_SEXY_PAYPAL_KEYLOGGER.exe, and you are so going to love it. It's like, well, I won't spoil the fun. Let me just say it: it will drive you nuts!
Most netbooks have come in inferior distros--inferior meaning ease of use and community and marketshare. They should have used ubuntu from the start, or mint linux or gOS. I can't make the experiments, but these, I believe, would not be returned as much. BTW, by Ubuntu I mean a VENDOR-THEMED packaged, mod me down to oblivion, but the sad fact is that ubuntu is simply just fucking too much ugly for anyone to use as it comes.
The Dow Jones Industrial Average finished down by 7%, and suffered its biggest-ever points loss. Perhaps fittingly in an economy that is in danger of sliding into depression, the only stock among the 500 in the S&P index that finished higher was Campbell's Soup.
The great thing about this moment in history is that latecomers can get the cost savings and other positive externalities that took years/decades to develop elsewhere. I, for one, welcome our new... oh well, forget about that one.
Número uno: The internet hated the NDA. Not only the goodwill and fanboyism that Apple gets for free was up for grabs; but also there was a real chance that Apple might become the new Microsoft in public opinion.
Número dos: Google does not fight the internet, and brought out Android. Android is gonna get some traction, not least for being open-source, for coming up with cool apps that google awarded prizes for, and for securing your developer's rights to distribute.
Número três: The market is down. It's going to get worse. In fact, we may have crossed the point of no return. The USA might have hyperinflation and all that comes with it.
So Steve had no alternative. The question is, for how long will the draconian measures at the app store still exist?
It's a rhetorical question, grasshopper.
Start your studies, grasshopper: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhetorical_question
After that we will move on to discuss the murky territory that defines what "user confusion" is, and the arbitrariness involved in the app store's decision-making.
"Or maybe it's because it's not a product being sold in the iPhone App Store, it's just a web application they point Safari at."
Ok, now that you've made all comments redundant or irrelevant, let me ask you, dear leader: if the facebook app includes messaging functionality, doesn't it confuse users as much as the rejected gmail app?
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You are making a straw man of my argument: I do not predict the downfall of Microsoft. I do predict a gradual slowdown of sales of Microsoft Office.
I'm sure you can think hard and see that these are two separate issues, though related.
...stockmarkets into freefall. The Dow Jones Industrial Average finished down by 7%, and suffered its biggest-ever points loss. Perhaps fittingly in an economy that is in danger of sliding into depression, the only stock among the 500 in the S&P index that finished higher was Campbell's Soup. The S&P closed 29% below its peak. Reflecting fears that consumer demand will wilt, shares of Apple Computer, creator of the iPhone, fell by 18%.
And here's The Economist, part (ii):
A 90-year-old woman about to be evicted in Ohio shot herself last week. (She survived, and the mortgage firm forgave her debt.)
FOSS is a little easier on the wallet than Microsoft. A recession is cost-cutting. OO.org is one nail in the coffin of Microsoft Office. And that is my argument, and it's no non-sequitur, as much as you may like reality to be different. Please refrain from throwing chairs at me.
...and shame on Microsoft for backing-down.
Why? It's a winner for those pricks. They do not support an open standard (pdf), and their "open" formats get the benefit of the network effects. Meanwhile they point the finger at Adobe. Just the regular fuck-your-customers, fuck-your-competitors, fuck-your-partners, and fuck-justice day at microsoft.
I'm always sceptical when people talk about using OO seriously with "no problems".
I'm always sceptical when people talk about using software seriously with "no problems". -->There, fixed it for you.
No nail on Microsoft's Office coffin, you say?
If you don't think that FOSS will spread in the upcoming downturn, consider this: How about the fact that Campbell's Soup's stocks are on the rise (+28.8% 5y outlook), while Microsoft is gradually going down (-25.62%)?
These numbers speak tones.
...I've not only RTFA, but also DTFS and UTFS, and the only thing I can say is: Just in time for a major economic recession, right Mr Ballmer? Now all we need is to get rid of your tax, which, with help from the recession, will be duly done.
This stretching of the earth's crust has been going on for 20 million years, and within another 10 million the Red Sea will have broken through to create a new sea.
I hope they post this shit to youtube; that's gonna be really cool. Pressing reload already.
Or, it's the case of people having other, more interesting things to spend their time learning. I used to be a computer geek, but now stuff like OS' bore the living shit out of me. I have -zero- interest in dicking around with a computer any more than I have to. I have a lot more interesting things to do ,like running my business, fixing up my house, studying art, whatever. I wouldn't bother with Linux because to me, it's a complete and total waste of my time.
Hi, Nice point. I am sending you a file called FUNNY_SEXY_PAYPAL_KEYLOGGER.exe, and you are so going to love it. It's like, well, I won't spoil the fun. Let me just say it: it will drive you nuts!
Most netbooks have come in inferior distros--inferior meaning ease of use and community and marketshare. They should have used ubuntu from the start, or mint linux or gOS. I can't make the experiments, but these, I believe, would not be returned as much. BTW, by Ubuntu I mean a VENDOR-THEMED packaged, mod me down to oblivion, but the sad fact is that ubuntu is simply just fucking too much ugly for anyone to use as it comes.
Steve seems to have got the same power-grabbing fever that Baby Bush has.
A good algorithm is important, obviously, but ultimately chess is done by brute force.
Not if you do it by analogy.
ever heard of Ubuntu?
C'mon moderators, THIS SHIT IS NOT FUNNY!
From The Economist:
The Dow Jones Industrial Average finished down by 7%, and suffered its biggest-ever points loss. Perhaps fittingly in an economy that is in danger of sliding into depression, the only stock among the 500 in the S&P index that finished higher was Campbell's Soup.
The great thing about this moment in history is that latecomers can get the cost savings and other positive externalities that took years/decades to develop elsewhere. I, for one, welcome our new... oh well, forget about that one.
Well, after Congress rejected the bailout, the shares of Campbell Soup went up.
And I'm NOT making this up!
How about open source? Can we build FOSS for the thing now?
Let's just check the facts:
Número uno: The internet hated the NDA. Not only the goodwill and fanboyism that Apple gets for free was up for grabs; but also there was a real chance that Apple might become the new Microsoft in public opinion.
Número dos: Google does not fight the internet, and brought out Android. Android is gonna get some traction, not least for being open-source, for coming up with cool apps that google awarded prizes for, and for securing your developer's rights to distribute.
Número três: The market is down. It's going to get worse. In fact, we may have crossed the point of no return. The USA might have hyperinflation and all that comes with it.
So Steve had no alternative. The question is, for how long will the draconian measures at the app store still exist?
When will developers be sure of their investment?
It's a rhetorical question, grasshopper. Start your studies, grasshopper: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhetorical_question After that we will move on to discuss the murky territory that defines what "user confusion" is, and the arbitrariness involved in the app store's decision-making.
"Or maybe it's because it's not a product being sold in the iPhone App Store, it's just a web application they point Safari at." Ok, now that you've made all comments redundant or irrelevant, let me ask you, dear leader: if the facebook app includes messaging functionality, doesn't it confuse users as much as the rejected gmail app?
Gleat Victolly!
Sorry Steve, but you have painted yourself into a corner.
Invention of term concidered considered harmful.
"Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen." Albert Einstein "Nothing can be more contrary to religion and the clergy than reason and common sense" Voltaire "The philosophy of one century is the common sense of the next." Henry Beecher
Misquoting? You completed exactly what I said. People first.
perhaps because of "we the people", not "we the states"?