So the question I would pose is: how many Kindle users.buyers were the sort of people to buy lots of print books before? It seems like it would be a relevant factor is the majority of kindle adoptees were people who were less likely to buy print editions in the first place, but find the convenience of the kindle sufficiently advantageous that they have embraced it whole-heartedly.
As is traditional, I base my curiosity on anecdotal evidence, which boils down to: I know of three people who have bought a Kindle, and each of them relied heavily on libraries or simply abstained from reading due to perceived inconvenience in the print media. One of the Kindle owners I know takes advantage of being able to scale up the fonts (iirc) to make it easier to read, something print media can't do, obviously. One of them is a full time working mom who likes to read but can't find time to do so....and the Kindle is sufficiently portable that it frees up time for her she didn't previously know she had on when she can read. The third owner of Kindle is an avid user of the library, and she takes heavy advantage of the lower cost or free books available on Kindle now.
Hmmm....I just realized I don't know fo any guys who've adopted the Kindle. Weird.
Okay, so first I think, "Okay, maybe I won't by a fourth XBox 360 after the last three RRODed, and maybe I won't get a PS3 since apparently playing online is for losers and people with access to a functional PSN, I'll hold out for a Project Cafe thingie instead. Then I'll find out that its going to involve a bunch of motion-sensor games aimed at the facebook casual crowd. Then I'll see the official software lineup and notice that it caters entirely to kids and adults who somehow think that innovation means Mario's mushrooms are in 3D. And then I'll go upgrade my PC and be done with it.
...for all those people on Pirate Bay downloading GOG games? I know there's a forum post somewhere at GOG where the new justification (once DRM is no longer an easy excuse) is that the games don't come with physical CDs and manuals, so they don't want to waste their money on a download. Good grief.
Substitute "PvP player" for MMO Player and I would agree; most MMO players are not so much loathesome as simply self-absorbed and lacking in social graces. Most PvP players, however, are vitriolic racists asshats to the finest degree. I'd like to say that the worst of the MMO and PvP players I've all met are 13 year olds with personality disorders....but alas such is not the case....too many of them are adults who act like such, giving the 13 year olds a bad rep.
Of course, the sad thing about this is that most actual shootings related to home defense or personal protection end up being accidental.
Gun ownership is a big deal in the US, overall, but only for specific regions, and especially in rural regions, despite the fact that it often sounds like urban hotbeds of crime are where gun ownership is most common (to read threads like this).
Anyway, the OP regarding Google really should emphasize that these are vandals, not hunters. And if they were, technically, out hunting...which I doubt, as these are probably mostly bored teenagers with guns in rural areas...they became vandals the moment they got bored and started shooting at someone else's property.
Living in New Mexico, I can state that most professional hunters (all that I know of, having married in to a family of such) wouldn't stoop to such a thing, and are very conservative about their use of ammo, which costs an arm and a leg these days. It's irresponsible kids from low-income poor-parenting families in the boonies that are bored that do stuff like this. Which is in itself another issue entirely...how the hell does any kid get bored in this day and age?!?!
Did it? Wow, never noticed. Wonder how many people did notice...and still decided it wasn't worth the $50 plus hourly subscription fee for a pvp title that's in direct competition with MW2 and other AAA titles...
Fallen Earth does have a two week trial...I tried it and it was quite fun, worth subbing to for a few months (imo). I agree, if APB had offered some sort of trial or free play I might have given it a shot....as it was, not worth the risk.
Well, that sounds good unless you are a regular player of 4E (or DM, in my case) who finds the system to be an elegant, tight refinement of the previous editions, one which fits well with my busy lifestyle, and which allows for exactly the same level of role playing as well as combat, despite assertions to the contrary by elitist old farts. And yes I am an old schooler, though I refuse to be called a grognard, having started with 1st edition AD&D in 1980 and not the original edition zero from 1974. And you can run 4E just fine with just the three core books....though yeah, I do own them all.
On the plus side, maybe they'll fix the horrendous camera system from NWN 1/2....2 being a worse offender arguably than 1. I figure this is a given, since they will in all likelihood be using the Champions/STO system reskinned, and the camera for Champions was about the least offensive component of the game.
This is the real issue here; not whether old grognards can suffer through a 4th edition rendering on PC, but the fact that Cryptic will be doing it. I eagerly await seeing how they shoehorn the Champions system in to a reskin of something that looks vaguely D&D-ish, in the same way that I stare in amazement at a rescue attempt on a bus full of orphans that jumped the rails and fell in to a deep ravine...and then caught fire...as packs of rabid starving coyotes descend on the remains.
OD&D - The perfect dungeon based roleplaying game, with dungeons. Just where the hell can I buy Chainmail?!
BD&D - Pandering to the Rogue-like crowd. Also, when my DM's in a bad mood with me and make up biased rules.
AD&D - Pandering to the Dungeon Master crowd. Also, can we not start at 5th level and I play a Wizard? With psionics?
2D&D - Pandering to Diablo crowd. Also, whoo, this all tastes a little Vanilla.
3D&D - Pandering to the Ultima Online crowd. Also, while I've spent 40 hours perfecting my NPC liche, it's too complicated to actually run.
4D&D - Pandering to the WOW crowd. Also, it's only fun when actually, you know, playing the game.
Now T&T, there is a game.
LOL! Yesssss. All very true, although as pointed out below, 2E predated Diablo by quite a bit. Also, I wouldn't equate 3rd edition to Ultima Online....but the part about your 40 hour timesink lich that was too complicated almost made me spit my coffee!
Geez...I mean, I get to play with my wife all the time, and its definitely dirty. Headshots when I can't even figure out her sniping point.....grenades out of nowhere....she wins all the time and I never even see it coming! She's one of the dirtiest play-to-win people I know and still gotta look in the eye after she's won twelve straight games in a row of MW2....at least we can play on the same side in Borderlands!
Wait...did TFA mean something else?
Its also a fallacy to assume that if someone plays or contributes to one of these social games that they therefore are not also engaging in other activites such as biking, exercise, or "real world" hobbies of equivalent nature. I have a friend who regularly spams me with her virtual farm nonsense, but I also know she is a real estate agent who regularly attends dancing lessons and belongs to a crochet club. She's a nice gal, but sometime in the wee hours on her dial-up connection she loves to jump on facebook and spam the living hell out of people with her virtual farm goods and fishbowl stuff. I can't fault her; I don't think her obsession is any stranger than my lust for Bioware games.....just different.
Okay, I think most of us agree pirates not paying customers and most probably never would shell out a dime. This fact alone is why I want their sorry asses burned on free content; I'm tired of all these people who think that they are exempt from ethical behavior so long as they feel sufficiently anrgy about a publisher's efforts at protecting their work from theft. I do not want these people getting free content just because they feel justified on some idiotic level that its okay. Whether a piece of software has DRM or not, they will pirate it. It's the Ring of Gyges applied to digital media, apparently. For my vote, I'll get behind the companies trying to prevent the piracy, because giving up on this means that those same fucks who rip off software might (read: absolutely will) graduate to my car, bank account, credit cards or other personal possessions one day, if it turns out they can do so without consequence and even a modicum of justification (like being angry that I dare suggest they're all a bunch of thieves).
Once there is no more piracy (and that will never happen) then I will get irritated at companies that attach DRM to their software. In the meantime, the only companies which look foolish right now for these actions are those which install DRM on their games that punish legitimate users more than the pirates. And even then my anger level is going to be more along the lines of , "better fix this," rather than "I will boycott." I'll reserve my genuine loathing and contempt for the pirates, who absolutely should find that they suffer a severe electric shock with every illegal piece of software they download in the name of their right to exploit others creative content without any recognition of worth or effort. Fuck them all.
I've not had that problem yet, luckily. We have had an issue where the instance will quit out and the system says it couldn't find the instance....but then you just click on the little eye icon and it offers to teleport you there, which gets things going just fine.
Be careful with the FPS you choose. I've been playing MW2 and have had several games rather unexpectedly end when the host server croaks and kicks us out of game and back in to the lobby. The only thing worse than a cool down is being halfway through the game when it dies and you lose everything you had accrued to that point.
There were 2 things about WoW that made it pale for me over time: Finding dungeon groups as a casual player and the massive quality/functionality disparity between vanilla (Azeroth) and expansion (Burning Crusade & Wrath of the Lich King) areas.
This patch makes it likely that my extremely casual self will be able to find a group - I dislike joining guilds because it feels like there's always going to be drama over the whole casual vs. raider mentality. Not only that, but even in a guild, unless it's a really big one, it's still hard to find groups. Here now I'll be able to just join Pick Up Groups and do stuff. Woo!
The expansion that is coming out - from what I've read they are COMPLETELY redoing the original world to make it more integrated with everything else, higher quality, all that stuff. It will be interesting to see how it works out.
Anyway, they just got me to renew for 3 months - I stopped playing a while back - oy.
Same here! In the last year I'd been in instances 3 times; I simply didn't have the 1-2 hours needed to get in to a group, including pacifying the organizer/guild that I could handle it with my casual player gear, that I could do DPS as an arms spec warrior because I don't like prot spec tanking (too stressful to be fun) and so forth. So I'd gotten lucky months ago and seen the inside of Nexus a few times....otherwise I mostly quest level and play the AH minigame. Suddenly, random dungeons is active, and in one night I do five instances I've never seen before....get in queue, and five minutes later BAM I'm in a group and we're knocking out a cool instance. This change has literally made WoW a new game to me.....it's really amazing.
Plus, the majority of their player base are now probably experienced MMOers, so the tedium of pushing through those early levels can be daunting to someone whose done it many times before. If they're new players, the challenge will still be there; I'm sure an occasional newbie comes along who gets confused at things like what WASD is, for example....they've got plenty of additional obstacles to overcome on top of learning the game basics. So either way, I think these changes will work out to appease bored vets rolling new alts and brand new players unfamiliar with the genre (odd as that may seem).
Yes, this here. I think they've noticed that they gain the most money from the people who play only a few hours a week or month, but over a very long time, as opposed to the players who blast through thirty+ hours a week and burn out after six months to a year and complain about lack of content, dumbing it down, etc.
I've been playing since Feb. 2005 and am just now hitting level 78 on my main. This makes me a favored customer, I suspect....I get less "bang for my buck" than the guy who has four 80s after six months, but unlike him, I've still got loads of material yet to be discovered in the game, which I can enjoy with the 4-8 hours a week I actually have time to play the game. I may not have the volume of experience in the game a hardcore WoWer does, but the quality of my time is more appreciated, since I have less of it and therefore need to make it count. Blizzard knows this, and every change they've made makes the play experience more engaging and productive for players like myself who have real jobs and real commitments outside of the game.
I'd never thought of the idea that the smoke, tar and other byproducts of a smoking habit could gum up the inner workings of the PC (heatsink and such).
What's next? Cat owners? I know I pop mine open at least once a month to clean out cat hair stuck in the fans, sink and so forth.....
If we're ragging on Glen Beck's specious argumentation, why turn around and do it to Americans in general? There are a few of us who don't go in for that nonsense, after all! A very, very small percentage, it seems....but I still hate getting lumped in with them.
I fail to understand those who decry the fourth Indy film. Honestly, I haven't seen or read an adequate explanation for this hatred, other than that the very particular filtered perceptions and expectations of that individual somehow are not fulfilled by the film in question. Just because you were not happy with the film does not mean you're interpretation of "what it should have been" was right. I am happy to remain in the camp of "people who do not get overly worked up about cinema and spend their time wrapped in vitriol about perceived injustices on film." It doesn't mean I can't recognize a bad movie when I see it...but this movie was most certainly not bad, nor did it fail to live up to my expectations of what an aging late 50's Indy would be like. Plus, it did something I felt was very significant, by keeping with the trend of the previous movies and showcasing the thematic pulp/adventure elements of the time period in question, complete with evil Russians, UFOs, atomic bombs and Fortean weirdness.
Anyway, not trying to convince the haters that this movie was more than they think of it, just saying that you're not actually right about how allegedly deplorable this film was; you're just confused by your childhood memories and your modern expectations coming in to conflict and making you feel all confused inside. The only way they could have make an Indy film that would have satisfied all would have been to reboot the franchise. I am sure the will, eventually, but it was nice to see Indy in his old age doing what he does best, fighting the good fight against fascists and commies in the name of fantasy archaeology. (As a real archaeologist, I can assure you that the four Indy films always have and always will and should be about fantasy archaeology. The real thing is considerably less exciting, I assure you. Plus, Indy's a terrible role model for leaving a good site "in situ.")
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So the question I would pose is: how many Kindle users.buyers were the sort of people to buy lots of print books before? It seems like it would be a relevant factor is the majority of kindle adoptees were people who were less likely to buy print editions in the first place, but find the convenience of the kindle sufficiently advantageous that they have embraced it whole-heartedly. As is traditional, I base my curiosity on anecdotal evidence, which boils down to: I know of three people who have bought a Kindle, and each of them relied heavily on libraries or simply abstained from reading due to perceived inconvenience in the print media. One of the Kindle owners I know takes advantage of being able to scale up the fonts (iirc) to make it easier to read, something print media can't do, obviously. One of them is a full time working mom who likes to read but can't find time to do so....and the Kindle is sufficiently portable that it frees up time for her she didn't previously know she had on when she can read. The third owner of Kindle is an avid user of the library, and she takes heavy advantage of the lower cost or free books available on Kindle now. Hmmm....I just realized I don't know fo any guys who've adopted the Kindle. Weird.
Okay, so first I think, "Okay, maybe I won't by a fourth XBox 360 after the last three RRODed, and maybe I won't get a PS3 since apparently playing online is for losers and people with access to a functional PSN, I'll hold out for a Project Cafe thingie instead. Then I'll find out that its going to involve a bunch of motion-sensor games aimed at the facebook casual crowd. Then I'll see the official software lineup and notice that it caters entirely to kids and adults who somehow think that innovation means Mario's mushrooms are in 3D. And then I'll go upgrade my PC and be done with it.
...for all those people on Pirate Bay downloading GOG games? I know there's a forum post somewhere at GOG where the new justification (once DRM is no longer an easy excuse) is that the games don't come with physical CDs and manuals, so they don't want to waste their money on a download. Good grief.
In another field of software testing these guys might be considered beta testers....
Substitute "PvP player" for MMO Player and I would agree; most MMO players are not so much loathesome as simply self-absorbed and lacking in social graces. Most PvP players, however, are vitriolic racists asshats to the finest degree. I'd like to say that the worst of the MMO and PvP players I've all met are 13 year olds with personality disorders....but alas such is not the case....too many of them are adults who act like such, giving the 13 year olds a bad rep.
Of course, the sad thing about this is that most actual shootings related to home defense or personal protection end up being accidental. Gun ownership is a big deal in the US, overall, but only for specific regions, and especially in rural regions, despite the fact that it often sounds like urban hotbeds of crime are where gun ownership is most common (to read threads like this). Anyway, the OP regarding Google really should emphasize that these are vandals, not hunters. And if they were, technically, out hunting...which I doubt, as these are probably mostly bored teenagers with guns in rural areas...they became vandals the moment they got bored and started shooting at someone else's property. Living in New Mexico, I can state that most professional hunters (all that I know of, having married in to a family of such) wouldn't stoop to such a thing, and are very conservative about their use of ammo, which costs an arm and a leg these days. It's irresponsible kids from low-income poor-parenting families in the boonies that are bored that do stuff like this. Which is in itself another issue entirely...how the hell does any kid get bored in this day and age?!?!
Did it? Wow, never noticed. Wonder how many people did notice...and still decided it wasn't worth the $50 plus hourly subscription fee for a pvp title that's in direct competition with MW2 and other AAA titles...
Fallen Earth does have a two week trial...I tried it and it was quite fun, worth subbing to for a few months (imo). I agree, if APB had offered some sort of trial or free play I might have given it a shot....as it was, not worth the risk.
Well, that sounds good unless you are a regular player of 4E (or DM, in my case) who finds the system to be an elegant, tight refinement of the previous editions, one which fits well with my busy lifestyle, and which allows for exactly the same level of role playing as well as combat, despite assertions to the contrary by elitist old farts. And yes I am an old schooler, though I refuse to be called a grognard, having started with 1st edition AD&D in 1980 and not the original edition zero from 1974. And you can run 4E just fine with just the three core books....though yeah, I do own them all.
On the plus side, maybe they'll fix the horrendous camera system from NWN 1/2....2 being a worse offender arguably than 1. I figure this is a given, since they will in all likelihood be using the Champions/STO system reskinned, and the camera for Champions was about the least offensive component of the game.
This is the real issue here; not whether old grognards can suffer through a 4th edition rendering on PC, but the fact that Cryptic will be doing it. I eagerly await seeing how they shoehorn the Champions system in to a reskin of something that looks vaguely D&D-ish, in the same way that I stare in amazement at a rescue attempt on a bus full of orphans that jumped the rails and fell in to a deep ravine...and then caught fire...as packs of rabid starving coyotes descend on the remains.
OD&D - The perfect dungeon based roleplaying game, with dungeons. Just where the hell can I buy Chainmail?! BD&D - Pandering to the Rogue-like crowd. Also, when my DM's in a bad mood with me and make up biased rules. AD&D - Pandering to the Dungeon Master crowd. Also, can we not start at 5th level and I play a Wizard? With psionics? 2D&D - Pandering to Diablo crowd. Also, whoo, this all tastes a little Vanilla. 3D&D - Pandering to the Ultima Online crowd. Also, while I've spent 40 hours perfecting my NPC liche, it's too complicated to actually run. 4D&D - Pandering to the WOW crowd. Also, it's only fun when actually, you know, playing the game. Now T&T, there is a game.
LOL! Yesssss. All very true, although as pointed out below, 2E predated Diablo by quite a bit. Also, I wouldn't equate 3rd edition to Ultima Online....but the part about your 40 hour timesink lich that was too complicated almost made me spit my coffee!
Geez...I mean, I get to play with my wife all the time, and its definitely dirty. Headshots when I can't even figure out her sniping point.....grenades out of nowhere....she wins all the time and I never even see it coming! She's one of the dirtiest play-to-win people I know and still gotta look in the eye after she's won twelve straight games in a row of MW2....at least we can play on the same side in Borderlands! Wait...did TFA mean something else?
Its also a fallacy to assume that if someone plays or contributes to one of these social games that they therefore are not also engaging in other activites such as biking, exercise, or "real world" hobbies of equivalent nature. I have a friend who regularly spams me with her virtual farm nonsense, but I also know she is a real estate agent who regularly attends dancing lessons and belongs to a crochet club. She's a nice gal, but sometime in the wee hours on her dial-up connection she loves to jump on facebook and spam the living hell out of people with her virtual farm goods and fishbowl stuff. I can't fault her; I don't think her obsession is any stranger than my lust for Bioware games.....just different.
Okay, I think most of us agree pirates not paying customers and most probably never would shell out a dime. This fact alone is why I want their sorry asses burned on free content; I'm tired of all these people who think that they are exempt from ethical behavior so long as they feel sufficiently anrgy about a publisher's efforts at protecting their work from theft. I do not want these people getting free content just because they feel justified on some idiotic level that its okay. Whether a piece of software has DRM or not, they will pirate it. It's the Ring of Gyges applied to digital media, apparently. For my vote, I'll get behind the companies trying to prevent the piracy, because giving up on this means that those same fucks who rip off software might (read: absolutely will) graduate to my car, bank account, credit cards or other personal possessions one day, if it turns out they can do so without consequence and even a modicum of justification (like being angry that I dare suggest they're all a bunch of thieves). Once there is no more piracy (and that will never happen) then I will get irritated at companies that attach DRM to their software. In the meantime, the only companies which look foolish right now for these actions are those which install DRM on their games that punish legitimate users more than the pirates. And even then my anger level is going to be more along the lines of , "better fix this," rather than "I will boycott." I'll reserve my genuine loathing and contempt for the pirates, who absolutely should find that they suffer a severe electric shock with every illegal piece of software they download in the name of their right to exploit others creative content without any recognition of worth or effort. Fuck them all.
Wow, that's a real plight. Welcome to the same leaky boat the US gets lumped in to by the rest of Europe...
I was there. It was fun because we didn't know any better....! Oh by the way, 2004 called and wants its grind back!
I've not had that problem yet, luckily. We have had an issue where the instance will quit out and the system says it couldn't find the instance....but then you just click on the little eye icon and it offers to teleport you there, which gets things going just fine. Be careful with the FPS you choose. I've been playing MW2 and have had several games rather unexpectedly end when the host server croaks and kicks us out of game and back in to the lobby. The only thing worse than a cool down is being halfway through the game when it dies and you lose everything you had accrued to that point.
... they pull me back in.
There were 2 things about WoW that made it pale for me over time: Finding dungeon groups as a casual player and the massive quality/functionality disparity between vanilla (Azeroth) and expansion (Burning Crusade & Wrath of the Lich King) areas.
This patch makes it likely that my extremely casual self will be able to find a group - I dislike joining guilds because it feels like there's always going to be drama over the whole casual vs. raider mentality. Not only that, but even in a guild, unless it's a really big one, it's still hard to find groups. Here now I'll be able to just join Pick Up Groups and do stuff. Woo!
The expansion that is coming out - from what I've read they are COMPLETELY redoing the original world to make it more integrated with everything else, higher quality, all that stuff. It will be interesting to see how it works out.
Anyway, they just got me to renew for 3 months - I stopped playing a while back - oy.
Same here! In the last year I'd been in instances 3 times; I simply didn't have the 1-2 hours needed to get in to a group, including pacifying the organizer/guild that I could handle it with my casual player gear, that I could do DPS as an arms spec warrior because I don't like prot spec tanking (too stressful to be fun) and so forth. So I'd gotten lucky months ago and seen the inside of Nexus a few times....otherwise I mostly quest level and play the AH minigame. Suddenly, random dungeons is active, and in one night I do five instances I've never seen before....get in queue, and five minutes later BAM I'm in a group and we're knocking out a cool instance. This change has literally made WoW a new game to me.....it's really amazing.
Plus, the majority of their player base are now probably experienced MMOers, so the tedium of pushing through those early levels can be daunting to someone whose done it many times before. If they're new players, the challenge will still be there; I'm sure an occasional newbie comes along who gets confused at things like what WASD is, for example....they've got plenty of additional obstacles to overcome on top of learning the game basics. So either way, I think these changes will work out to appease bored vets rolling new alts and brand new players unfamiliar with the genre (odd as that may seem).
Yes, this here. I think they've noticed that they gain the most money from the people who play only a few hours a week or month, but over a very long time, as opposed to the players who blast through thirty+ hours a week and burn out after six months to a year and complain about lack of content, dumbing it down, etc. I've been playing since Feb. 2005 and am just now hitting level 78 on my main. This makes me a favored customer, I suspect....I get less "bang for my buck" than the guy who has four 80s after six months, but unlike him, I've still got loads of material yet to be discovered in the game, which I can enjoy with the 4-8 hours a week I actually have time to play the game. I may not have the volume of experience in the game a hardcore WoWer does, but the quality of my time is more appreciated, since I have less of it and therefore need to make it count. Blizzard knows this, and every change they've made makes the play experience more engaging and productive for players like myself who have real jobs and real commitments outside of the game.
I'd never thought of the idea that the smoke, tar and other byproducts of a smoking habit could gum up the inner workings of the PC (heatsink and such). What's next? Cat owners? I know I pop mine open at least once a month to clean out cat hair stuck in the fans, sink and so forth.....
If we're ragging on Glen Beck's specious argumentation, why turn around and do it to Americans in general? There are a few of us who don't go in for that nonsense, after all! A very, very small percentage, it seems....but I still hate getting lumped in with them.
There is a remake underway, fyi. Waaaagh!
I fail to understand those who decry the fourth Indy film. Honestly, I haven't seen or read an adequate explanation for this hatred, other than that the very particular filtered perceptions and expectations of that individual somehow are not fulfilled by the film in question. Just because you were not happy with the film does not mean you're interpretation of "what it should have been" was right. I am happy to remain in the camp of "people who do not get overly worked up about cinema and spend their time wrapped in vitriol about perceived injustices on film." It doesn't mean I can't recognize a bad movie when I see it...but this movie was most certainly not bad, nor did it fail to live up to my expectations of what an aging late 50's Indy would be like. Plus, it did something I felt was very significant, by keeping with the trend of the previous movies and showcasing the thematic pulp/adventure elements of the time period in question, complete with evil Russians, UFOs, atomic bombs and Fortean weirdness. Anyway, not trying to convince the haters that this movie was more than they think of it, just saying that you're not actually right about how allegedly deplorable this film was; you're just confused by your childhood memories and your modern expectations coming in to conflict and making you feel all confused inside. The only way they could have make an Indy film that would have satisfied all would have been to reboot the franchise. I am sure the will, eventually, but it was nice to see Indy in his old age doing what he does best, fighting the good fight against fascists and commies in the name of fantasy archaeology. (As a real archaeologist, I can assure you that the four Indy films always have and always will and should be about fantasy archaeology. The real thing is considerably less exciting, I assure you. Plus, Indy's a terrible role model for leaving a good site "in situ.")