A: "Yes, Firefox web browser, Thunderbird email and news client, Sunbird Calendar, and NVU HTML editor are useful programs. The Mozilla/SeaMonkey suite, with all of this functionality, is about 11M compressed, whereas the separate applications are each about 35M compressed. So, the live-CD, instead of being 60M would be 85M and would be too big to run in RAM in a PC with 128M RAM.
"Why are the separate applications so big compared with the Mozilla/Seamonkey suite? Simply because the Mozilla suite has a lot of common code shared by each module, whereas the separate applications have to duplicate that code. This creates a gigantic size bloat, not in the spirit of Puppy."
>"I would rather pay $5 more and get it from Steam... getting better value for that $5"
I'd say you're getting less value. Mainly because you can't sell the game if you get tired of it, or if you didn't like it. For example I bought Final Fantasy 10-2 on Disc, beat it, decided it wasn't that great, and sold it. Not only did I recoup my money, I made a 5 dollar profit.
You can't do that with Steam or any other non-physical game. I'd have been out 45 dollars.
>"XP is far better...it's just a cutdown Windows Server 2003"
Amazing. XP was released in 2001 and yet it's a "cut down" version of Server 2003. I didn't realize Microsoft had time trsvel - maybe they are a better company than I give them credit for.
Even then CATV operators don't "have" to pay. They can elect to not carry a station. If the station invokes FCC Must Carry rules, then the CATV operator gets it free of charge.
Could also be that someone DID say it, but not those exact words.
It's often repeated that nobody said, "Play it again Sam," but if you watch the movie there's a quote very similar to that (Play it Sam.). At some point someone, somewhere decided 640K would be enough to run MS-DOS apps and because Bill Gates was the boss, it was probably him. After all the original IBM PC only had 16k, so Gates probably figured ~40 times that amount was plenty.
Maybe, but you can never, ever, state that opinion, to anyone.
Nope. Even if I were president, and I had no intention of ever nuking Russia into oblivion, I'd still tell the Soviet Leader that I will destroy them completely. It's just like poker. Make the opponent believe you have a better hand then you really do, so then they will not act.
But I agree with C64love that a communist Europe is preferable to a whole world destroyed. The US might be rubble, but the survivors in "the old world" and S. America can rebuild, and not have to worry about irradiated landscape.
So by the time we reach the end of 2011, we'll be on Chrome 16??? What's the point of all these frequent releases?
How is this a "troll"? Looks like an honest question to me. Are questions no longer allowed on slashdot??? Apparently people seeking information are now considered undesirables.
"Freedom of expression isn't worth much if the [platforms] where people actually make use of it are not themselves free." - ACLU
No that doesn't work. They meant literal forums where people discuss/chat. And if they are privately owned, they are free to censor all they want. Like those KKK forums that censor people saying, "Blacks are as good as whites." You don't have a right to free speech there, anymore than you can enter the KKK building and start painting the words on their walls.
The Apple II and Atari 400/800 were released in 1978 and 79 respectively.
If computers were the cause, why didn't the game consoles crash in 1979? Also if cartridge-based game consoles were "obsoleted" by these new home computers, why did NES go on to sell twice as many units as the Atari 2600 (60 million versus 30 million)? Your theory has a lot of holes that don't stand-up to examination.
Sadly the US Congress (and possibly the EU Parliament) disagrees with you.
They've passed numerous laws that say device makers can encrypt data, in order to prevent the user from violated (possibly) copyrighted material. VCRs did it first, then DVD players, then DVRs, next cable/dish systems, and now computers and cellphones.
I love Apples but hate their users. Was it really necessary to mark this fellow "Troll" just because you didn't like his opinion? What are Apple fanboys so intolerant of negative opinions?
Jobs is doing what the typical car salesman or Sears clerk does - twisting the facts. "Self-rinse cycle? Airbags? Openness? Nah you don't want or need any of that. Trust. Me.:-D"
His opinion is therefore biased and means Nothing to me.
I would investigate the possibility that you may be a psychopath. At the very least you're a horrible ass and a poor excuse for a friend. I would much rather have this "stupid" friend than you in my life.
EXCUSE ME? Shove a dildo up your pee hole you cock-eyed son of a bitch!
It's not unsympathetic when people do dumb stuff. I had a college friend lose all his work when his laptop died (HDD stopped spinning). I said, "I told you when you bought that laptop, make sure you get an external USB to back it up."
He wanted to hit me, but he should have been hitting himself.
Nothing cause I didn't move. DSL came to me when the telco ran fiber to the neighborhood, attached it to existing telephone wires, and then mailed-out letters to everyone asking them to join DSL.
Who shows actual videos of people in the white house saying things like, "My favorite philosopher is Mao Tse-tung" or "Redistribute the wealth" or "Rationing is necessary under the new Healthcare Bill."
Inserting words into your opponent's mouth that he never said - or - inventing some outrageous scenario (jews/hitler) and claiming the opponent would support such a thing.
That's the definition of a Strawman Argument, and you used one.
We were discussing FOX News (the national channel), and you came back with a quote about a LOCAL privately-owned television station. That has zero relevance.
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From the Puppy Linux FAQ:
Q: Why not use Firefox instead of Seamonkey?
A: "Yes, Firefox web browser, Thunderbird email and news client, Sunbird Calendar, and NVU HTML editor are useful programs. The Mozilla/SeaMonkey suite, with all of this functionality, is about 11M compressed, whereas the separate applications are each about 35M compressed. So, the live-CD, instead of being 60M would be 85M and would be too big to run in RAM in a PC with 128M RAM.
"Why are the separate applications so big compared with the Mozilla/Seamonkey suite? Simply because the Mozilla suite has a lot of common code shared by each module, whereas the separate applications have to duplicate that code. This creates a gigantic size bloat, not in the spirit of Puppy."
- Barry Kauler 2006
http://www.puppylinux.com/faq.htm
>"I would rather pay $5 more and get it from Steam... getting better value for that $5"
I'd say you're getting less value. Mainly because you can't sell the game if you get tired of it, or if you didn't like it. For example I bought Final Fantasy 10-2 on Disc, beat it, decided it wasn't that great, and sold it. Not only did I recoup my money, I made a 5 dollar profit.
You can't do that with Steam or any other non-physical game.
I'd have been out 45 dollars.
>"XP is far better...it's just a cutdown Windows Server 2003"
Amazing. XP was released in 2001 and yet it's a "cut down" version of Server 2003.
I didn't realize Microsoft had time trsvel - maybe they are a better company than I give them credit for.
Even then CATV operators don't "have" to pay. They can elect to not carry a station. If the station invokes FCC Must Carry rules, then the CATV operator gets it free of charge.
Could also be that someone DID say it, but not those exact words.
It's often repeated that nobody said, "Play it again Sam," but if you watch the movie there's a quote very similar to that (Play it Sam.). At some point someone, somewhere decided 640K would be enough to run MS-DOS apps and because Bill Gates was the boss, it was probably him. After all the original IBM PC only had 16k, so Gates probably figured ~40 times that amount was plenty.
Maybe, but you can never, ever, state that opinion, to anyone.
Nope. Even if I were president, and I had no intention of ever nuking Russia into oblivion, I'd still tell the Soviet Leader that I will destroy them completely. It's just like poker. Make the opponent believe you have a better hand then you really do, so then they will not act.
But I agree with C64love that a communist Europe is preferable to a whole world destroyed. The US might be rubble, but the survivors in "the old world" and S. America can rebuild, and not have to worry about irradiated landscape.
So by the time we reach the end of 2011, we'll be on Chrome 16???
What's the point of all these frequent releases?
How is this a "troll"? Looks like an honest question to me. Are questions no longer allowed on slashdot??? Apparently people seeking information are now considered undesirables.
"Freedom of expression isn't worth much if the [platforms] where people actually make use of it are not themselves free." - ACLU
No that doesn't work. They meant literal forums where people discuss/chat. And if they are privately owned, they are free to censor all they want. Like those KKK forums that censor people saying, "Blacks are as good as whites." You don't have a right to free speech there, anymore than you can enter the KKK building and start painting the words on their walls.
Where did the the other Poster equate the black panthers to the Democrats? I don't see where he did that .
Is Chrome considered "open source" like firefox, or "closed" like Opera? I'm confused. It's owned by Google so I'd think closed but not sure.
Windows NT 6.1 is called "seven" on the packaging Chrome 6.1 or Chrome 7.0 version numbering really means little.
IMHO
So negative!
Sounds like a good plan to me, and maybe Apple would have the know-how to stop all these privacy leaks.
The Apple II and Atari 400/800 were released in 1978 and 79 respectively.
If computers were the cause, why didn't the game consoles crash in 1979? Also if cartridge-based game consoles were "obsoleted" by these new home computers, why did NES go on to sell twice as many units as the Atari 2600 (60 million versus 30 million)? Your theory has a lot of holes that don't stand-up to examination.
Can someone tell me what this means?
repo init -u git://android.git.kernel.org/platform/manifest.git
repo sync
make
Sadly the US Congress (and possibly the EU Parliament) disagrees with you.
They've passed numerous laws that say device makers can encrypt data, in order to prevent the user from violated (possibly) copyrighted material. VCRs did it first, then DVD players, then DVRs, next cable/dish systems, and now computers and cellphones.
(Score:1, Troll)
I love Apples but hate their users.
Was it really necessary to mark this fellow "Troll" just because you didn't like his opinion? What are Apple fanboys so intolerant of negative opinions?
Alos thought the comparison of Apple to a church was particularly insightful.
(Next I guess I'll be modded troll)
Jobs is doing what the typical car salesman or Sears clerk does - twisting the facts. "Self-rinse cycle? Airbags? Openness? Nah you don't want or need any of that. Trust. Me. :-D"
His opinion is therefore biased and means Nothing to me.
- (Score:0, Troll)
Someone lacks a sense of humor. What part of "just a joke" did you people not understand? I wish I was a moderator. I thought it was +1 Funny.
I would investigate the possibility that you may be a psychopath. At the very least you're a horrible ass and a poor excuse for a friend. I would much rather have this "stupid" friend than you in my life.
EXCUSE ME? Shove a dildo up your pee hole you cock-eyed son of a bitch!
Or just take a listen to JOHN WAYNE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKThgLq21Rc#t=36s
your first reaction
I did not say that. Did I? No.
The point where I said, "I told you to backup to USB drive" was one day later after we exhausted all attempts to recover the dead HDD.
It's not unsympathetic when people do dumb stuff. I had a college friend lose all his work when his laptop died (HDD stopped spinning). I said, "I told you when you bought that laptop, make sure you get an external USB to back it up."
He wanted to hit me, but he should have been hitting himself.
Stupid is as stupid does.
Nothing cause I didn't move. DSL came to me when the telco ran fiber to the neighborhood, attached it to existing telephone wires, and then mailed-out letters to everyone asking them to join DSL.
Probably the same is true for c64_love
Beck doesn't do that.
Who shows actual videos of people in the white house saying things like, "My favorite philosopher is Mao Tse-tung" or "Redistribute the wealth" or "Rationing is necessary under the new Healthcare Bill."
Inserting words into your opponent's mouth that he never said - or - inventing some outrageous scenario (jews/hitler) and claiming the opponent would support such a thing.
That's the definition of a Strawman Argument, and you used one.
WTVT???
We were discussing FOX News (the national channel), and you came back with a quote about a LOCAL privately-owned television station. That has zero relevance.