They say we choose our gods. They being some group of people. They say religion is major trouble. They being some group of people.
There are 2 major religions that are "Evangelistic". One of them is dedicated to Baptising the world and the other is dedicated to making sure there are no infidels........ The media pays attention to the extreme.
Me? I choose to follow Jesus who lived and died for me and then is living to assist me as I go. Its all about faith. If we do not have faith, what do we have? The world exists on faith. faith in science, faith in your body, faith in money.. Me I choose to have faith in the one thing that I do not have: perfection.
If someone tells me I have to believe in the Virgin birth, I tell them no I do not. To be a Christian is to at its core, believe that Christ Died and was resurrected for me. All other ideals is shadows of that one issue. So when someone says I have to burn a book, I know that they are playing in the shadows of life instead of the glory of god.
Have a Blessed day and I hope you don't play in the shadows.
I also found a book about growing up that had nude pictures in my church's library. It was not Pornography but was designed to show how the body grows. It was a drawing but even at 11 I thought it was... interesting.
It just goes to show you that books are subjective and the observer gets to determine what the artist meant in the end.
I dont know how many hours was wasted on that kickass game. They needed to have promoted it better it would have greatly helped.
GEM Desktop was pretty neat for the time and it was much better than GEM Desktop on the PC. Windows really was not an option as Wordstar/Wordperfect and other DOS appz ruled the waves.
How sad when we MUST spend money on training office workers instead of buying school books or something for your school district. The "Use it or lose it" policy of Government is really backasswards and costs a great deal of money and pushes up inflation and spending.
You make sense.. however let me talk about after the US Civil War.
The US Civil War basically decided that the Federal Government can run over States rights and forget the constitution. The War itself was against the Constitution if you realize that States had the right to ceed from the US.
What does this mean? It means that the Pot grown in California, used in California, and never went outside the jurisdiction of California is under Fed Rule if they so want it to be. It means that the US Federal government can regulate Abortion, Drugs, and even Baseball.
The Civil war stopped slavery and kept the US together but effectively destroyed the states rights version of the Constitution.
A new system is not the answer. All systems have tended to grow corrupt over the years. This system is built to have changes: no slavery, womens rights, etc. The problem we are having is the people of the US are not being educated right now. We are losing the term liberal education and moving more towards engineering schools. We do this to try and maintain or keep up our technological and work productivity edge. However, we lose things like civics, history, and even balancing the checkbook. This will not change.
What is wrong with being conservative? Nothing. What is wrong about being Liberal? Nothing. What is wrong is that we used to have an attitude that "We may disagree but I will fight for the right for you to have your opinion".
Singapore has all the automatic road taxes when the car goes under the bridges. Taxis are taxed heavily as well to offset the cost and considering a standard taxi driver in Singapore works 12/7 the Government makes out and the Taxi itself works 24/7. Of course, Singapore is also giving money to those giving birth to try and increase the population. Almost everyone lives in a government subsidized home.
War done with Phil Dead AJ coming out of his depression Meadow pretty well set Tony Resettled and Wife has her job remaking houses. So you saw the terrorist reference in the end... the godfather bathroom reference.. but listen to the MUSIC:
Multi-platform, memory debugger with coverage analysis. It is NOT free and it works very well.
There are several types of memory debuggers: source code, object code, linked library wrappers.
Insure++ is Source Code instramentation. It wraps code with its own trap routines and finds a LOT of errors. Purify (I used it a bit ago, was not on Linux at the time) is a object code instramentation and it takes the object code and wraps it. It finds some stuff. Electric Fence is a FREE library that basically wraps malloc and traps some basic systems.
Insure++ is the best that I have found. You can try it for a time if you wish at www.parasoft.com
I just paid 29 bucks for a Robotech: The Shadow Chronicles DVD and now I cannot FAST FORWARD through advertisements for other DVD's in the front of a DVD I just purchased. (The movie is excellent though).
Why can't tax already be included in the price of an item at a retail store, or Food Chain?
Cannot turn off the stupid BLUE Circle on my HD Plasma TV so its bright in a room where people sleep. It also drains electricity. It ALSO looks like the darn TV is ON when its NOT.
Security features that log you out on a website WHILE you are writing a reply to a message.
Some stuff to look up. nice. More things to learn!
For me, God must not be something quantifiable by man or its not a God really. Consider that for God to be infinite, we cannot comprehend it with finite minds. I can comprehend the FSM and think hes pretty interesting. Pastafarians Eat well!
A major issue in all these discussions is that we focus on the USA media being flawed or the UK. Is this because they are more transparent than the others. In Russia, whole sets of journalists quit or even are killed for reporting things the government does not want to be known. Its the government controlled media that softpedals stuff and in the end controls the logic of it all.
Sorry What I was doing is giving a common example of a logical fallacy. To me, I do believe that 3+5 is 8. So that makes me more inclined to believe it from anyones mouth.
If I didn't know that, I would be less inclined to believe it if it came from a known liars mouth? Of course I would. The Logical Fallacy is that people take this to make the message wrong since it came from a known Liar.
Some examples: Clinton is a Liar since he lied to his Wife about Sex. Thus, Clinton telling us he never was given a chance at Osama Bin Laden is a lie too, since Clinton is a proven liar.
Saddam Hussien is a Liar since we have proof he bombed people before and he denies it. Thus, when he says he has no Weapons of Mass Destruction, he must be telling a Lie.
These are logical fallacies that are so easy to get into that of course I do too. That does not make them anymore true. In the end we ended up at War because of a series of Logical Fallacies.
If someone watches a Violent Video Game and then murders someone, does it mean the violent Video game caused the murder? I would say this is a logical Fallacy but Jack Thompson would not.
The biggest logical fallacy to me is that people generalize about someone else without knowing the specifics. This is how Media operates to sway the public. The media tells you something in fact, the media believes its a fact, but since they add statistics to the statement it means that event MUST fall inside some statistical boundry when it may not.
The more critical thinking we teach kids and ourselves, the less pain we have.
And its also a logicial fallacy to think that since we have not seen GOD written in the stars, there is no God.
I have no rank. Well I do but whenever I get another half dozen people who work for me, we end up in a layoff or something stupid. Thats another story of course.
Of course this is now off-topic. Then again I would have to think any logical discussion on Slashdot could be considered offtopic.
I apologize if I don't get the French reference since my Grandmother speaks it and I only know about a dozen (COMPUTER) Languages. My grandmother would relate to me the story of in the 1960's when she was on vacation with my grandfather in France that they were in a little hotel. They put the language down and registered and the Frenchman behind the counter turned and yelled to a busboy to come and "Help these asshole americans". My grandmother didn't say much but she said France seemed to be rude to them. Only real negative thing I know about France (of course, I do read crap but I don't trust it).
Pronouns are a killer problem for English speaking right now. You know what I am saying right You or Everyone right? heh.
Is there a direct reason to continue a flamewar here?
yes i believe that you were attacking The Daily Mail but after you pointed out your other message I no longer believe that. Context is important. In the end, was the article truthful?
I would rather get into reasons as to why you think 3+5 = 8? Is it because someone told you at sometime in life? Learned it by example? How is it real? Someone told me that 4 divided by 0 in not achievable but someone else told me recently some math guy invented a new math and it is achievable. How do we know what is logic? How do we know what is real?
Its all fun really. Think of math all being based on a point, which is assumed to exist. Thus do we exist at all if we can be described by math, which is assumed?
Life is much more fun if people relax ya know. Of course, I am probably wrong on that too. See, i kinda mentioned that ALL Generalizations are FALSE.... I always tell a Lie.
The logic I learn, is on my own from old Philosophy Books that are no longer part of University Experiences. It takes a while to learn something fun too. Also, its hard to detect when someone is being sarcastic too.
I also tend to use the Pronouns in place of general people statements and I apologize for that. When I say You, I mean You as in "People in General".
I wish they did. When they attack the policy makers, it gets crazy to me.
The left and the right do it. The left attacks George bush as Stupid and so anything he does must be bad and the right attacks people like george soros and anything he does must be bad.
I see many things that get tossed and its hard to critically think when so much crap is tossed around. If someone says it enough its true.
What I find most disturbing is how people like SH will use straw man or another fallacy to help the point they are making and then when they wish to attack a policy they decry the use the same tactic. Some people called it demonization of the opposition.
As to having to know about a post you made elsewhere that was directly on point. How am I supposed to find that out? Thats asking a little too much out of any Slashdot reader. I could post other comments of mine that mention I generalize and since generalizations are always false.....
The statement about Logical Fallacies applies to other countries as well. In the US, it seems much more prevelant now. The government and media are using these fallacies to oppress and deny and the sheeple just follow around baaaaaing.
What I found questionable about the reply was very simple. "I wouldn't dismiss this issue altogether simply because it came from the Daily Mail; " implies that the Daily Mail is bad, but the Daily Mail isnt bad or is it? The Straw Man argument seems to be in play here.
Btw, Sean Hannity is in 540+ radio stations worldwide and can annoy and enlighten as he goes. Just like Rush Limbaugh or Kim Park Ho or any "Commentators" worldwide. He was used, as an example.
none of this Validates or Invalidates 3+5 =8. I love simple math exercises to confuse people. 1/3 =.3333333333333... 2/3 =.6666666666666...
so 1/3 + 2/3 = 1 =.999999999...
These things can confuse those not associated with higher math. I use this as an example if you pare it down to Logical thinking. If you have not been trained in Math, you may end up thinking 1 does not equal 1 and Logic works similiar ways.
I would rather discuss Logic than the Daily Mail or any possible April fools jokes.
You are attacking the messenger and not the message. Is the message false? who knows but instead of trying to figure it out you assault the messenger.
Example: If Hitler said 3+5 is 8, you would say its WRONG because HITLER said it. Hitler was a bad man and thus can't be right.
We need a serious look at Logical Thinking in this country. Its a major reason why we are splitting apart in the country that people like Sean Hannity uses Logical Fallacies all the time.
As to the Daily mail, they may do all the things you state and that just means you have to get more to get to the truth but it does not mean its false or even their SLANT on it is false either.
I am rather conservative myself but its more harmful to lie using logical mindtricks than to just face the truths.
My science is better than your science. My religion is better than your religion. My car is better than your car.
Please figure out that greed and the things that Religion tries to suppress are the reasons for your "Harm". Sex = Troy = Helen = the face that launched a thousand ships and killed thousands... simple things cause issues so I would state your statement is inherently too broad and problematic.
oh and "All generalizations are false, including this one" applies to your post as well as mine.
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They say we choose our gods. They being some group of people. They say religion is major trouble. They being some group of people.
There are 2 major religions that are "Evangelistic". One of them is dedicated to Baptising the world and the other is dedicated to making sure there are no infidels........ The media pays attention to the extreme.
Me? I choose to follow Jesus who lived and died for me and then is living to assist me as I go. Its all about faith. If we do not have faith, what do we have? The world exists on faith. faith in science, faith in your body, faith in money.. Me I choose to have faith in the one thing that I do not have: perfection.
If someone tells me I have to believe in the Virgin birth, I tell them no I do not. To be a Christian is to at its core, believe that Christ Died and was resurrected for me. All other ideals is shadows of that one issue. So when someone says I have to burn a book, I know that they are playing in the shadows of life instead of the glory of god.
Have a Blessed day and I hope you don't play in the shadows.
I remember reading Huck Finn....
out of my Church's Library.
I also found a book about growing up that had nude pictures in my church's library. It was not Pornography but was designed to show how the body grows. It was a drawing but even at 11 I thought it was... interesting.
It just goes to show you that books are subjective and the observer gets to determine what the artist meant in the end.
Where can I purchase this cheap laptop and can I view porn on it?
The killer App for the Atari ST was:
DUNGEON KEEPER.
I dont know how many hours was wasted on that kickass game. They needed to have promoted it better it would have greatly helped.
GEM Desktop was pretty neat for the time and it was much better than GEM Desktop on the PC. Windows really was not an option as Wordstar/Wordperfect and other DOS appz ruled the waves.
Uh..
How sad when we MUST spend money on training office workers instead of buying school books or something for your school district. The "Use it or lose it" policy of Government is really backasswards and costs a great deal of money and pushes up inflation and spending.
You make sense.. however let me talk about after the US Civil War.
The US Civil War basically decided that the Federal Government can run over States rights and forget the constitution. The War itself was against the Constitution if you realize that States had the right to ceed from the US.
What does this mean? It means that the Pot grown in California, used in California, and never went outside the jurisdiction of California is under Fed Rule if they so want it to be. It means that the US Federal government can regulate Abortion, Drugs, and even Baseball.
The Civil war stopped slavery and kept the US together but effectively destroyed the states rights version of the Constitution.
A new system is not the answer. All systems have tended to grow corrupt over the years. This system is built to have changes: no slavery, womens rights, etc.
The problem we are having is the people of the US are not being educated right now. We are losing the term liberal education and moving more towards engineering schools. We do this to try and maintain or keep up our technological and work productivity edge. However, we lose things like civics, history, and even balancing the checkbook. This will not change.
What is wrong with being conservative? Nothing. What is wrong about being Liberal? Nothing. What is wrong is that we used to have an attitude that "We may disagree but I will fight for the right for you to have your opinion".
Bin Laden has mostly won already.
Singapore has all the automatic road taxes when the car goes under the bridges. Taxis are taxed heavily as well to offset the cost and considering a standard taxi driver in Singapore works 12/7 the Government makes out and the Taxi itself works 24/7. Of course, Singapore is also giving money to those giving birth to try and increase the population. Almost everyone lives in a government subsidized home.
Its still a GREAT place to visit.
War done with Phil Dead
AJ coming out of his depression
Meadow pretty well set
Tony Resettled and Wife has her job remaking houses.
So you saw the terrorist reference in the end... the godfather bathroom reference..
but listen to the MUSIC:
The music goes:
"Don't Stop"
and they do. It all STOPS. The end of the series.
Multi-platform, memory debugger with coverage analysis. It is NOT free and it works very well.
There are several types of memory debuggers:
source code,
object code,
linked library wrappers.
Insure++ is Source Code instramentation. It wraps code with its own trap routines and finds a LOT of errors.
Purify (I used it a bit ago, was not on Linux at the time) is a object code instramentation and it takes the object code and wraps it. It finds some stuff.
Electric Fence is a FREE library that basically wraps malloc and traps some basic systems.
Insure++ is the best that I have found. You can try it for a time if you wish at
www.parasoft.com
Its easier to spell Stallone than Arnold's last name anyways.
Btw, True Lies was a good movie to me. Entertainment.
Last Action hero was entertaining.
Ewe Boll is not.
Who writes scripts anymore? Don't they just have a database like Family Guy and pull out random events and have a title maker?
Heh
Yea. Who WROTE.. "TRUE LIES" with Sylvester Stallone. I could have sworn it was Arnold in that movie.
Then again, I still say its Stallone in the Rocky Movies!!
I just paid 29 bucks for a Robotech: The Shadow Chronicles DVD and now I cannot FAST FORWARD through advertisements for other DVD's in the front of a DVD I just purchased. (The movie is excellent though).
Why can't tax already be included in the price of an item at a retail store, or Food Chain?
Cannot turn off the stupid BLUE Circle on my HD Plasma TV so its bright in a room where people sleep. It also drains electricity. It ALSO looks like the darn TV is ON when its NOT.
Security features that log you out on a website WHILE you are writing a reply to a message.
Give me a M
Give me a C
Give me a A
We have...
Y M C A
Sing with me! heh.
Some stuff to look up. nice. More things to learn!
For me, God must not be something quantifiable by man or its not a God really. Consider that for God to be infinite, we cannot comprehend it with finite minds. I can comprehend the FSM and think hes pretty interesting. Pastafarians Eat well!
A major issue in all these discussions is that we focus on the USA media being flawed or the UK. Is this because they are more transparent than the others. In Russia, whole sets of journalists quit or even are killed for reporting things the government does not want to be known. Its the government controlled media that softpedals stuff and in the end controls the logic of it all.
I thought it was funny too but I then again 6+1 could be 8.
Why was 6 afraid of 7?
Because 7 8 9
Har Har Har.
Sorry What I was doing is giving a common example of a logical fallacy.
To me, I do believe that 3+5 is 8. So that makes me more inclined to believe it from anyones mouth.
If I didn't know that, I would be less inclined to believe it if it came from a known liars mouth? Of course I would. The Logical Fallacy is that people take this to make the message wrong since it came from a known Liar.
Some examples:
Clinton is a Liar since he lied to his Wife about Sex. Thus, Clinton telling us he never was given a chance at Osama Bin Laden is a lie too, since Clinton is a proven liar.
Saddam Hussien is a Liar since we have proof he bombed people before and he denies it. Thus, when he says he has no Weapons of Mass Destruction, he must be telling a Lie.
These are logical fallacies that are so easy to get into that of course I do too. That does not make them anymore true. In the end we ended up at War because of a series of Logical Fallacies.
If someone watches a Violent Video Game and then murders someone, does it mean the violent Video game caused the murder? I would say this is a logical Fallacy but Jack Thompson would not.
The biggest logical fallacy to me is that people generalize about someone else without knowing the specifics. This is how Media operates to sway the public. The media tells you something in fact, the media believes its a fact, but since they add statistics to the statement it means that event MUST fall inside some statistical boundry when it may not.
The more critical thinking we teach kids and ourselves, the less pain we have.
And its also a logicial fallacy to think that since we have not seen GOD written in the stars, there is no God.
I have no rank. Well I do but whenever I get another half dozen people who work for me, we end up in a layoff or something stupid. Thats another story of course.
Of course this is now off-topic. Then again I would have to think any logical discussion on Slashdot could be considered offtopic.
I apologize if I don't get the French reference since my Grandmother speaks it and I only know about a dozen (COMPUTER) Languages. My grandmother would relate to me the story of in the 1960's when she was on vacation with my grandfather in France that they were in a little hotel. They put the language down and registered and the Frenchman behind the counter turned and yelled to a busboy to come and "Help these asshole americans". My grandmother didn't say much but she said France seemed to be rude to them. Only real negative thing I know about France (of course, I do read crap but I don't trust it).
Pronouns are a killer problem for English speaking right now. You know what I am saying right You or Everyone right? heh.
Draw me on a graph how 1 = .9999999999....
.999999999... but in math you get 1/3+1/3+1/3 = 1.0 So .999999999.....
A=1/3 so B = 2*A. so then 3*A should equal A+A+A? so that will end up as
1 =
Lets divide by Zero!
heh.
Is there a direct reason to continue a flamewar here?
yes i believe that you were attacking The Daily Mail but after you pointed out your other message I no longer believe that. Context is important. In the end, was the article truthful?
I would rather get into reasons as to why you think 3+5 = 8? Is it because someone told you at sometime in life? Learned it by example? How is it real? Someone told me that 4 divided by 0 in not achievable but someone else told me recently some math guy invented a new math and it is achievable. How do we know what is logic? How do we know what is real?
Its all fun really. Think of math all being based on a point, which is assumed to exist. Thus do we exist at all if we can be described by math, which is assumed?
Life is much more fun if people relax ya know. Of course, I am probably wrong on that too. See, i kinda mentioned that ALL Generalizations are FALSE.... I always tell a Lie.
The logic I learn, is on my own from old Philosophy Books that are no longer part of University Experiences. It takes a while to learn something fun too. Also, its hard to detect when someone is being sarcastic too.
I also tend to use the Pronouns in place of general people statements and I apologize for that. When I say You, I mean You as in "People in General".
I wish they did. When they attack the policy makers, it gets crazy to me.
The left and the right do it. The left attacks George bush as Stupid and so anything he does must be bad and the right attacks people like george soros and anything he does must be bad.
I see many things that get tossed and its hard to critically think when so much crap is tossed around.
If someone says it enough its true.
What I find most disturbing is how people like SH will use straw man or another fallacy to help the point they are making and then when they wish to attack a policy they decry the use the same tactic. Some people called it demonization of the opposition.
I did not attack you.
.3333333333333... .6666666666666...
.999999999...
As to having to know about a post you made elsewhere that was directly on point. How am I supposed to find that out? Thats asking a little too much out of any Slashdot reader. I could post other comments of mine that mention I generalize and since generalizations are always false.....
The statement about Logical Fallacies applies to other countries as well. In the US, it seems much more prevelant now. The government and media are using these fallacies to oppress and deny and the sheeple just follow around baaaaaing.
What I found questionable about the reply was very simple.
"I wouldn't dismiss this issue altogether simply because it came from the Daily Mail; " implies that the Daily Mail is bad, but the Daily Mail isnt bad or is it? The Straw Man argument seems to be in play here.
Btw, Sean Hannity is in 540+ radio stations worldwide and can annoy and enlighten as he goes. Just like Rush Limbaugh or Kim Park Ho or any "Commentators" worldwide. He was used, as an example.
none of this Validates or Invalidates 3+5 =8. I love simple math exercises to confuse people.
1/3 =
2/3 =
so 1/3 + 2/3 = 1 =
These things can confuse those not associated with higher math. I use this as an example if you pare it down to Logical thinking. If you have not been trained in Math, you may end up thinking 1 does not equal 1 and Logic works similiar ways.
I would rather discuss Logic than the Daily Mail or any possible April fools jokes.
Why do people fall into this logical fallacy?
You are attacking the messenger and not the message. Is the message false? who knows but instead of trying to figure it out you assault the messenger.
Example: If Hitler said 3+5 is 8, you would say its WRONG because HITLER said it. Hitler was a bad man and thus can't be right.
We need a serious look at Logical Thinking in this country. Its a major reason why we are splitting apart in the country that people like Sean Hannity uses Logical Fallacies all the time.
As to the Daily mail, they may do all the things you state and that just means you have to get more to get to the truth but it does not mean its false or even their SLANT on it is false either.
I am rather conservative myself but its more harmful to lie using logical mindtricks than to just face the truths.
My science is better than your science.
My religion is better than your religion.
My car is better than your car.
Please figure out that greed and the things that Religion tries to suppress are the reasons for your "Harm". Sex = Troy = Helen = the face that launched a thousand ships and killed thousands... simple things cause issues so I would state your statement is inherently too broad and problematic.
oh and "All generalizations are false, including this one" applies to your post as well as mine.
You shouldnt mod up the +0 funny to +5 on your prefs.