Does anyone out there KNOW all the names of the holding companies and companies Worldcom controls? If I have any control in my company or in my life, and they are a part of it... I want their product out!
It is not that I don't think the company will stick around. I think that they will take a $7. something billion dollar write off, smile at all of us, and go back to business as usual. Just like I expect all the other companies to do. Restructure and keep on moving. They have to much cash invested in to many politicians to do other wise. I even heard a audio bite on NPR this morning where a Worldcom PR spin doctor stated that everything was fine and no one would lose any services.
I want to lose their services!!! I do not want to have any dealings with a company who involves itself in illegal activities. If the person you bought gas from at the local corner gas station was found to be "lining" his pockets with your money, would you go back and buy gas there? This sort of unethical behavior is starting to be mulled over by the popular press as "ok and not to worry. Everything will be fine. Nothing to see here." Uhh, NO.
I plan on taking my families' and my business' money to another gas station thank you. I don't plan on paying the unethical or immoral gas station attendant any more if I can help it.
You notice how all the politicans are looking for development X. If development X does not come about then the whole thing was a big waste of time and resources. That smells to be just a bunch narrow minded poppycock! The progress we make along the way is equally if not more important than the final product. There have been to many failures to count in space exploration and each one of them was another step in the learning curve.
You want the best results, then you better be willing to pay for the best materials and the brightest minds. Pay some pencil pushers and lowest bid contrators, then come to the public and whine. We made so many leaps in the early years because the budget was immense and the best minds were on the job.
The politicans can not even handle the task of balancing the budget or funding critial services. Then, for some odd reason, people give the politicans a platform to complain about poor results! Let the politicans continue to pander to constitutants and suck up for the next election. Give NASA the budget they need to get the job done. Then maybe, they may get that X they have been looking for.
I recently switched to cell phone only, giving up my dependence on a land line. When people ask for my phone number I go through the following routine (which assumes I don't want to give them my data):
Question to whoever: Why do I have to give you my number? Salesperson Bob's Answer: Oh, uh, we just need it to, uh... I tell Bob: No.
I keep my phone and they don't get any info on me. I am probally there to get a item, not give them anything.
Question to whoever: Why do I have to give you my number? Salesperson Bob's Answer: We have to have it for corporate. I tell Bob: No Bob Replies: I need the phone number or I can't complete your order. I tell Bob: Let me speak to a manager.
I again keep my phone number giving them nothing. If I have to give a number or I can not purchase the item, then I go somewhere else. Yet again, I am there for an item not to pander to their database whims.
If you give them your phone, then you might as well give them your address. After all, they are probally going to ask for that too. So now you have spam on two fronts (phone and smail).
Sometimes they ask for my email. So...
Salesperson Bob: I need your email address. Answer: Sure thing. It is G... double E... T... B... double E... N... T... @hotmail.com
Somehow telling them double E just bypasses some section of the brain and they fail to realise I am telling them to get bent!
Just because they are communist does not mean they do not form fact finding panels to access blame just like the United States, France, Britian, etc. I think the West just likes to call them witchhunts.
The people need someone to blame. And when the people do not need (or do not get) a voice for blame, then the politicans need one for political gain. Not to say that they don't need scapegoats in the US, France, Britian, etc.;)
Think of the it. Some day China may be taking M$ to court for monopolistic tactics. I kind of doubt anyone at M$ will be standing in front of any communist fact finding mission about poor software design or trade tactics. Here you can plead the 5th, their they can do some unsavory sort of punishment
Did anyone see Kevin Bacon's name on that map? I bet you could draw a link through association to him. Once that is done the map will be complete. Then we will know that Kevin controls that too.
Personally it does not have the contrast I would expect from a good B&W shot. The composition is good but I am not to sure about the "impressionistic" quality you mention. I tried that line in photography class in college a few times but it did not tread water.
Now if I was using a unknown type camera with an equally unknown method of development... well... then I would be a genius;)
What makes this scarry is the FBI can swoop in and grab all your hardware with little more than a "by your leave." Even if you are innocent they will hang onto your hardware so long it will become obsolete. There in lies the "threat". Now others out their who have tampered with their hardware for personal gain at the expense of others will have to tread lightly. Hopefully they will just obey the law.
Other highly moderated posters have stated that the cable provider should have sent some kind warning letter. That is a load of liberal crap! That is like telling a theif who breaks into your home that if they do it AGAIN there is going to be a penality. The people who modified their cable modems knew what they were doing. Theft is theft pure and simple.
They strung their own fiddle. Let them dance to the tune the police will be playing for them.
I thought Palladium was a company that produced role playing games. Old favorites such as Robotech and Tenage Muntant Ninja Turtles come quickly to mind. The only real difference between the two, I guess is,: 1. With RPG's you knew the rules up front 2. Rolling the dice an accepted part of the game.
Well, I guess the only real difference is #1 above. Everyone already knows that you have to take you chances with M$.
... what kind of developer or fixer a pewter plate used?! To bad PhotoFlow is a more recent invention, because that plate REALLY looks like it could have used it!
Everyone wants to blame M$ on this one but don't forget the IRS computer snafu. If they screw up your returns chance are the work does not get redone. They just bill you with the threat of audit to back up their sorry code!
If you are bothered by this kind of worry load you need a vacation. This kind of "we need to guess what the lawyers might say" nonsense really irks me.
If you are truly concerned what people have learned from previous positions will do to your company, I suggest you start a training program... with children. If you dont follow such a radical plan you may find yourself in legal trouble with parents and educators. After all they help teach the youngster everything they know. Can you imagine the intellectual property rights on all that knowledge. You might in court for decades over something like this!!!
The NBC (Nuclear/Biological/Chemical) threat is big concern of the modern military. They have entire job fields designed around protecting from and implement these "terrors". We can barely stop what we have now in our arsnel, let alone anyone elses. Imagine the impack of Nanotech to this list. The ONLY way around something like this is a solder in a completely sealed system. What I am afraid of is when they test a "technology" (i.e. weapon) like this. You target it to something in an enviroment (like man) but the enviroment is ALWAYS effected. How would you like these little buggers getting into the ground water, insuniating themselves into the local ecosystem, or getting into the ocean. I like the advances of technology we are making as a species. However, only a few have the forsight to see what can happen if something goes awry. Unfortunately so many others are out for gain (public aclaim, money, power, etc) that the forseeing few are all shutup or pushed aside. Our modern solution to any technology issue has always been if there is a problem we should be able to fix it in the future. Example, medical waste, nuclear waste, the aging chemical stockpile, and a host of superfund sites. I hope nanites do not go down the same road, with there potential we may be looking at an forseeable end instead of a bright beginning.
Why does it seem when all these Top Ten lists come out they are always about the latter half of this century. There is the Wheel and Portable Fire in this one. Then it is straight to the modern world. All the modern inventions were "Built on the shoulders of Giants" to paraphrase. How about a few others.. The Handy Cutting Tool - Say what you will but man has defined almost all of his existence by force. Use the blade (or axe or what ever) for Killing, gutting and cleaning you food or your enemies. The Stirup - Try to do a lot mounted without it. Sure you can. But give it a whirl. The Sail - Yeah, we would have rowed to the Americas. The Sextant - No, I think we need to go this way! Gutenburg Press - Printed media for the masses. Gunpowder - Nuff said there. Steam Engine - Where the other engines got there start. The microscope - Well, you try an come up with a meathod of vacinating people with out one. Penicilin - Ok. I cant spell. But most of the other inventions would have never come into being if the creator of them had DIED! Then where would spell checkers be:P Pasturazation - Still can spell, but at least I can eat.
We have a trade off then. You have the high performance if hooked to A/C. So... it is a not so easy to use (ergonomics wise) home system. If you take it out on the town however it has about the same speed as all a standard high end laptop. Did I miss something here?
Sounds like a good idea. I am sure corporate lawyers would call it slander! You think sites get shutdown fast for silly reasons now. Imagine Microsoft telling the people who host the page "slander.org" dump it or die. That slander.org would be sitting in a null space while you fought off the pack of lawyers nipping at your throat. Nice idea... do I know you:P
This like fool begets fool. Somone will undoubtly claim that the corps have an obligation to their stock holders next. We will then be going done the same commentary we went down a few days ago on a similar issue. There are just too many lawyers out there looking to make a buck. Can you imagine if there had been this many lawyers around much eariler in time. Hey, we (insert religion here) has sole intellectual rights on the entire GOD theme. If you want a piece of this pie come deal with us... or see our lawyers in court. Or, hey I put the wheel on my new invention... the CART. Anyone else put wheels on something similar and I will see down in the court house! You think if the legal system worried about REAL cases and issues we might be in a better place. People invented similar things at about the same time through out history. But the legal dept. will be research that to I bet.
Does this remind anyone of a Gibson novel? Or anything else remenicent of the dark future/cyberpunk genera. We have the corporate machine on one side and the hacker group on the other. It even goes so far as to instiute bragging about the act of agression before the fact. Just to spite corp. and show that the anarchist can do it. They say truth is stranger than fiction! I wonder when the next corporate war will start out over properity rights, intellectual properties, or actual land holdings. Maybe M$ will get in on it and a "black op" will go in and open a position up for others in M$! You laugh now. But who would have thought the hacker/cracker events would have come so far/so quickly. Only a few authors, like Gibson.
I am in now way trying to preach is should be in Armerica or Argentia... I would just like conventions to be more CENTRALLY located. There was no mention of a string of conventions... just one. I am glad a few people can attend, it is the masses I was wondering about.
Who picked the location?! Some watchdog agency for abuse of liberites! I have an idea lets have liberites conference. Then we will hype it up. Finally get the all the liberals on our bandwagon. Then hold it as FAR away from the average American as possible! (evil laugh in the background) Who thinks of these things?! I guess they figure if you don't have the $$$ and/or time to go there you are not worth hearing from. Either that, or they feel you are to backwater to know educate so why bother.
Can anyone tell me why the BBC has better intel on the NASA/shuttle situation than anybody IN the US? It just seems kinda odd that with all the DIRT our local media can dig up why can't they get any REAL inforamtion on what is going on at NASA.
Does anyone know the cost of this EOS system? I am not one of those to rant on system costs and how NASA is sucking up cash for whatever liberal cause is in the popular press. I was just wondering if this is a BIG budget kick or another small one? I know it cost more than a donut and a cup of coffee (check 197!), just my curious side...
OK. Media is taking up a larger chunk of the data pie than it has in the past. I am also sure this will only increase with time. However, as time has gone by and the space race (pun!) reaches a plateau... compression will take a front seat again. Or at least a back seat with more input.
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Does anyone out there KNOW all the names of the holding companies and companies Worldcom controls? If I have any control in my company or in my life, and they are a part of it... I want their product out!
It is not that I don't think the company will stick around. I think that they will take a $7. something billion dollar write off, smile at all of us, and go back to business as usual. Just like I expect all the other companies to do. Restructure and keep on moving. They have to much cash invested in to many politicians to do other wise. I even heard a audio bite on NPR this morning where a Worldcom PR spin doctor stated that everything was fine and no one would lose any services.
I want to lose their services!!! I do not want to have any dealings with a company who involves itself in illegal activities. If the person you bought gas from at the local corner gas station was found to be "lining" his pockets with your money, would you go back and buy gas there? This sort of unethical behavior is starting to be mulled over by the popular press as "ok and not to worry. Everything will be fine. Nothing to see here." Uhh, NO.
I plan on taking my families' and my business' money to another gas station thank you. I don't plan on paying the unethical or immoral gas station attendant any more if I can help it.
This little devices gives a whole new meaning to the phrase "Crank Call"
You notice how all the politicans are looking for development X. If development X does not come about then the whole thing was a big waste of time and resources. That smells to be just a bunch narrow minded poppycock! The progress we make along the way is equally if not more important than the final product. There have been to many failures to count in space exploration and each one of them was another step in the learning curve.
You want the best results, then you better be willing to pay for the best materials and the brightest minds. Pay some pencil pushers and lowest bid contrators, then come to the public and whine. We made so many leaps in the early years because the budget was immense and the best minds were on the job.
The politicans can not even handle the task of balancing the budget or funding critial services. Then, for some odd reason, people give the politicans a platform to complain about poor results! Let the politicans continue to pander to constitutants and suck up for the next election. Give NASA the budget they need to get the job done. Then maybe, they may get that X they have been looking for.
I recently switched to cell phone only, giving up my dependence on a land line. When people ask for my phone number I go through the following routine (which assumes I don't want to give them my data):
Question to whoever: Why do I have to give you my number?
Salesperson Bob's Answer: Oh, uh, we just need it to, uh...
I tell Bob: No.
I keep my phone and they don't get any info on me. I am probally there to get a item, not give them anything.
Question to whoever: Why do I have to give you my number?
Salesperson Bob's Answer: We have to have it for corporate.
I tell Bob: No
Bob Replies: I need the phone number or I can't complete your order.
I tell Bob: Let me speak to a manager.
I again keep my phone number giving them nothing. If I have to give a number or I can not purchase the item, then I go somewhere else. Yet again, I am there for an item not to pander to their database whims.
If you give them your phone, then you might as well give them your address. After all, they are probally going to ask for that too. So now you have spam on two fronts (phone and smail).
Sometimes they ask for my email. So...
Salesperson Bob: I need your email address.
Answer: Sure thing. It is G... double E... T... B... double E... N... T... @hotmail.com
Somehow telling them double E just bypasses some section of the brain and they fail to realise I am telling them to get bent!
Yep! Hence the irony.
;)
Just because they are communist does not mean they do not form fact finding panels to access blame just like the United States, France, Britian, etc. I think the West just likes to call them witchhunts.
The people need someone to blame. And when the people do not need (or do not get) a voice for blame, then the politicans need one for political gain. Not to say that they don't need scapegoats in the US, France, Britian, etc.
Think of the it. Some day China may be taking M$ to court for monopolistic tactics. I kind of doubt anyone at M$ will be standing in front of any communist fact finding mission about poor software design or trade tactics. Here you can plead the 5th, their they can do some unsavory sort of punishment
Did anyone see Kevin Bacon's name on that map? I bet you could draw a link through association to him. Once that is done the map will be complete. Then we will know that Kevin controls that too.
Personally it does not have the contrast I would expect from a good B&W shot. The composition is good but I am not to sure about the "impressionistic" quality you mention. I tried that line in photography class in college a few times but it did not tread water.
;)
Now if I was using a unknown type camera with an equally unknown method of development... well... then I would be a genius
What makes this scarry is the FBI can swoop in and grab all your hardware with little more than a "by your leave." Even if you are innocent they will hang onto your hardware so long it will become obsolete. There in lies the "threat". Now others out their who have tampered with their hardware for personal gain at the expense of others will have to tread lightly. Hopefully they will just obey the law.
Other highly moderated posters have stated that the cable provider should have sent some kind warning letter. That is a load of liberal crap! That is like telling a theif who breaks into your home that if they do it AGAIN there is going to be a penality. The people who modified their cable modems knew what they were doing. Theft is theft pure and simple.
They strung their own fiddle. Let them dance to the tune the police will be playing for them.
I thought Palladium was a company that produced role playing games. Old favorites such as Robotech and Tenage Muntant Ninja Turtles come quickly to mind. The only real difference between the two, I guess is,:
1. With RPG's you knew the rules up front
2. Rolling the dice an accepted part of the game.
Well, I guess the only real difference is #1 above. Everyone already knows that you have to take you chances with M$.
... what kind of developer or fixer a pewter plate used?! To bad PhotoFlow is a more recent invention, because that plate REALLY looks like it could have used it!
Everyone wants to blame M$ on this one but don't forget the IRS computer snafu. If they screw up your returns chance are the work does not get redone. They just bill you with the threat of audit to back up their sorry code!
If you are bothered by this kind of worry load you need a vacation. This kind of "we need to guess what the lawyers might say" nonsense really irks me.
If you are truly concerned what people have learned from previous positions will do to your company, I suggest you start a training program... with children. If you dont follow such a radical plan you may find yourself in legal trouble with parents and educators. After all they help teach the youngster everything they know. Can you imagine the intellectual property rights on all that knowledge. You might in court for decades over something like this!!!
Thx for the few lines of code. Someone moderate that poster up for usefulness!
The NBC (Nuclear/Biological/Chemical) threat is big concern of the modern military. They have entire job fields designed around protecting from and implement these "terrors". We can barely stop what we have now in our arsnel, let alone anyone elses. Imagine the impack of Nanotech to this list. The ONLY way around something like this is a solder in a completely sealed system. What I am afraid of is when they test a "technology" (i.e. weapon) like this. You target it to something in an enviroment (like man) but the enviroment is ALWAYS effected. How would you like these little buggers getting into the ground water, insuniating themselves into the local ecosystem, or getting into the ocean. I like the advances of technology we are making as a species. However, only a few have the forsight to see what can happen if something goes awry. Unfortunately so many others are out for gain (public aclaim, money, power, etc) that the forseeing few are all shutup or pushed aside. Our modern solution to any technology issue has always been if there is a problem we should be able to fix it in the future. Example, medical waste, nuclear waste, the aging chemical stockpile, and a host of superfund sites. I hope nanites do not go down the same road, with there potential we may be looking at an forseeable end instead of a bright beginning.
Why does it seem when all these Top Ten lists come out they are always about the latter half of this century. There is the Wheel and Portable Fire in this one. Then it is straight to the modern world. All the modern inventions were "Built on the shoulders of Giants" to paraphrase. How about a few others.. The Handy Cutting Tool - Say what you will but man has defined almost all of his existence by force. Use the blade (or axe or what ever) for Killing, gutting and cleaning you food or your enemies. The Stirup - Try to do a lot mounted without it. Sure you can. But give it a whirl. The Sail - Yeah, we would have rowed to the Americas. The Sextant - No, I think we need to go this way! Gutenburg Press - Printed media for the masses. Gunpowder - Nuff said there. Steam Engine - Where the other engines got there start. The microscope - Well, you try an come up with a meathod of vacinating people with out one. Penicilin - Ok. I cant spell. But most of the other inventions would have never come into being if the creator of them had DIED! Then where would spell checkers be :P Pasturazation - Still can spell, but at least I can eat.
We have a trade off then. You have the high performance if hooked to A/C. So... it is a not so easy to use (ergonomics wise) home system. If you take it out on the town however it has about the same speed as all a standard high end laptop. Did I miss something here?
Sounds like a good idea. I am sure corporate lawyers would call it slander! You think sites get shutdown fast for silly reasons now. Imagine Microsoft telling the people who host the page "slander.org" dump it or die. That slander.org would be sitting in a null space while you fought off the pack of lawyers nipping at your throat. Nice idea... do I know you :P
This like fool begets fool. Somone will undoubtly claim that the corps have an obligation to their stock holders next. We will then be going done the same commentary we went down a few days ago on a similar issue. There are just too many lawyers out there looking to make a buck. Can you imagine if there had been this many lawyers around much eariler in time. Hey, we (insert religion here) has sole intellectual rights on the entire GOD theme. If you want a piece of this pie come deal with us... or see our lawyers in court. Or, hey I put the wheel on my new invention... the CART. Anyone else put wheels on something similar and I will see down in the court house! You think if the legal system worried about REAL cases and issues we might be in a better place. People invented similar things at about the same time through out history. But the legal dept. will be research that to I bet.
Does this remind anyone of a Gibson novel? Or anything else remenicent of the dark future/cyberpunk genera. We have the corporate machine on one side and the hacker group on the other. It even goes so far as to instiute bragging about the act of agression before the fact. Just to spite corp. and show that the anarchist can do it. They say truth is stranger than fiction! I wonder when the next corporate war will start out over properity rights, intellectual properties, or actual land holdings. Maybe M$ will get in on it and a "black op" will go in and open a position up for others in M$! You laugh now. But who would have thought the hacker/cracker events would have come so far/so quickly. Only a few authors, like Gibson.
I am in now way trying to preach is should be in Armerica or Argentia... I would just like conventions to be more CENTRALLY located. There was no mention of a string of conventions... just one. I am glad a few people can attend, it is the masses I was wondering about.
Who picked the location?! Some watchdog agency for abuse of liberites! I have an idea lets have liberites conference. Then we will hype it up. Finally get the all the liberals on our bandwagon. Then hold it as FAR away from the average American as possible! (evil laugh in the background) Who thinks of these things?! I guess they figure if you don't have the $$$ and/or time to go there you are not worth hearing from. Either that, or they feel you are to backwater to know educate so why bother.
Can anyone tell me why the BBC has better intel on the NASA/shuttle situation than anybody IN the US? It just seems kinda odd that with all the DIRT our local media can dig up why can't they get any REAL inforamtion on what is going on at NASA.
Does anyone know the cost of this EOS system? I am not one of those to rant on system costs and how NASA is sucking up cash for whatever liberal cause is in the popular press. I was just wondering if this is a BIG budget kick or another small one? I know it cost more than a donut and a cup of coffee (check 197!), just my curious side...
OK. Media is taking up a larger chunk of the data pie than it has in the past. I am also sure this will only increase with time. However, as time has gone by and the space race (pun!) reaches a plateau... compression will take a front seat again. Or at least a back seat with more input.