A) Yes, I realized this after my haste to make the joke.
B) You have clearly missed that this was supposed to be a joke.
C) Had this story actually been about tides and not wind (see A above,) then I would be right: retarding the tidal bulges even more than they already are (via harnessing) would slingshot the moon even faster than the tides currently do.
You should re-read the comment you are replying to. You have misunderstood Chrisq's point (which is, in summary: by talking about the spammer's stupidity in this case, we risk alerting said spammers to their stupidity, in which case they might correct it. It is better for us to just STFU about it.) And of course, by replying to you I am now part of that problem. Damn!
Please everyone just leave T-Mobile alone. They are doing great the last few years.
I agree, but T-Mobile is doing great because they don't *want* to be left alone. They are being so aggressive with their pricing because they want to be targetted for a buy-out. Their parent company, Deutsche Telekom AG, has made it clear that they want out of that business.
If by 'screen sharing' you mean VNC or RDP: that is often acceptable within a single LAN. But when VPN'ing in from home, the latency can be tiresome. With a character-based interface, there is of course still latency, but it is much less tiresome because the stream is a tiny trickle compared to the graphical modes.
Terminal multiplexers such as screen and tmux still have their place. Not only do they allow you to organize your terminals by task, but they are also detachable from your console. This allows you to (example) start a build at the office, where your machine physically resides, then later from home SSH into your work machine and reattach to the tmux / screen session.
The problem with living crew is that-- as you mentioned-- they would evolve enough over time that they would lose interest in their original purpose. "Screw those embryonic proto-xenohumans, we xenohumans need to look out for 'Number One'."
Remember, the 'xeno-humans' would be as much our descendants as the embryos, just more removed. It's entirely possible to have far more massive populations in space than on the ground.
Hell, at some point intellectual curiosity would probably ensure the 'rebirth' of ground based humans. It'd just be after there's 10B or so space-humans in the system. As a bonus, that gives a goodly amount of time to conduct some terraforming on the target planet to improve it's suitability.
I know both groups would be evolutionary cousins. My point was:
1. A generational ship is much more expensive than a 'spore' ship containing frozen embryos.
2. If you're going to bother with a living crew, then you lose all the economy of the frozen embryos, and so why even bother with the embryos?
3. The living crew will diverge into a different, possibly-incompatible species over time, and thus their motivations may no longer be aligned with the original goal of the mission.
So: embryos w/ ship-mother, or living crew. But not both.
Finally: I assumed that we would choose our target planet well before launching, so no terraforming necessary. (But: wildlife & environmental hazards unknown.) The spore-ship would be analogous to tree pollen, floating on the wind; either it lands in a viable place, or it doesn't.)
Since we are talking about the distant future, I was envisioning an automated craft that acted as vessel, womb, mother, and teacher. Craft would resume gestational development once it reached orbit. Wouldn't bother landing until the children had decanted, and had been taught sufficient survival skills. Then land, and let them apply their textbook learnin's as best as they can, do-or-die.
The problem with living crew is that-- as you mentioned-- they would evolve enough over time that they would lose interest in their original purpose. "Screw those embryonic proto-xenohumans, we xenohumans need to look out for 'Number One'."
This is why you send suspended blastocysts, rather than breathing/pooping/screwing humans. If your target destination ends up not being viable when you get there, you just abort (or head elsewhere, if you have the means.)
Who do you want setting telecommunication policy: experts in that field, or experts at winning elections? 200+ years ago, when our system of government first formed, life was simple enough that the qualifications for competent governance were not much above a grade-school education. Today's world is far more complex. The bar to entry into Congress is too low to fill those shoes competently.
This sounds like the ultimate study drug: pack more thinking into each real minute? Sign me up.
It's a shame their first idea for it is a negative one.
I punch 3 holes in every receipt: one each for parent, left, and right. Then I attach them all by string, in a balanced tree. If I need multiple search keys, I just use different colors of string, and different sets of holes.
Rebalancing can be a bit of a bitch, after insertion. (I never delete.)
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I'm assuming that was the mean, not the median.
IIRC, this was the earliest Waiting-For-Godot quip in these comments. So, 'redundant' was not applicable at that time.
Ceci n'est pas une pipe.
Mods, you suck! The PP is a reference to "Waiting for Godot." Get some culture before you down-mod.
If so, the name choice was brilliant (regardless of whether the project itself is.) Thanks for the info.
:)
Also: Wikipedia suggests that the 'D' in "Système D" can stand for "démerde"
A) Yes, I realized this after my haste to make the joke.
B) You have clearly missed that this was supposed to be a joke.
C) Had this story actually been about tides and not wind (see A above,) then I would be right: retarding the tidal bulges even more than they already are (via harnessing) would slingshot the moon even faster than the tides currently do.
In fact, you have *two* programs to read all logs. More and less.
Fool! You failed to include the pager that I use the Most!
Had they been successful, they would have slingshotted the moon further away from us. Oh, the calamity!
You should re-read the comment you are replying to. You have misunderstood Chrisq's point (which is, in summary: by talking about the spammer's stupidity in this case, we risk alerting said spammers to their stupidity, in which case they might correct it. It is better for us to just STFU about it.) And of course, by replying to you I am now part of that problem. Damn!
Please everyone just leave T-Mobile alone. They are doing great the last few years.
I agree, but T-Mobile is doing great because they don't *want* to be left alone. They are being so aggressive with their pricing because they want to be targetted for a buy-out. Their parent company, Deutsche Telekom AG, has made it clear that they want out of that business.
Do you have any idea what that would do to the tachyon flux?
Great! Then we can let our hardest criminals 'take the black', and defend the wall from The Others and these monstrous windy beasts.
If by 'screen sharing' you mean VNC or RDP: that is often acceptable within a single LAN. But when VPN'ing in from home, the latency can be tiresome. With a character-based interface, there is of course still latency, but it is much less tiresome because the stream is a tiny trickle compared to the graphical modes.
Terminal multiplexers such as screen and tmux still have their place. Not only do they allow you to organize your terminals by task, but they are also detachable from your console. This allows you to (example) start a build at the office, where your machine physically resides, then later from home SSH into your work machine and reattach to the tmux / screen session.
The problem with living crew is that-- as you mentioned-- they would evolve enough over time that they would lose interest in their original purpose. "Screw those embryonic proto-xenohumans, we xenohumans need to look out for 'Number One'."
Remember, the 'xeno-humans' would be as much our descendants as the embryos, just more removed. It's entirely possible to have far more massive populations in space than on the ground.
Hell, at some point intellectual curiosity would probably ensure the 'rebirth' of ground based humans. It'd just be after there's 10B or so space-humans in the system. As a bonus, that gives a goodly amount of time to conduct some terraforming on the target planet to improve it's suitability.
I know both groups would be evolutionary cousins. My point was: 1. A generational ship is much more expensive than a 'spore' ship containing frozen embryos.
2. If you're going to bother with a living crew, then you lose all the economy of the frozen embryos, and so why even bother with the embryos?
3. The living crew will diverge into a different, possibly-incompatible species over time, and thus their motivations may no longer be aligned with the original goal of the mission.
So: embryos w/ ship-mother, or living crew. But not both.
Finally: I assumed that we would choose our target planet well before launching, so no terraforming necessary. (But: wildlife & environmental hazards unknown.) The spore-ship would be analogous to tree pollen, floating on the wind; either it lands in a viable place, or it doesn't.)
Since we are talking about the distant future, I was envisioning an automated craft that acted as vessel, womb, mother, and teacher. Craft would resume gestational development once it reached orbit. Wouldn't bother landing until the children had decanted, and had been taught sufficient survival skills. Then land, and let them apply their textbook learnin's as best as they can, do-or-die.
The problem with living crew is that-- as you mentioned-- they would evolve enough over time that they would lose interest in their original purpose. "Screw those embryonic proto-xenohumans, we xenohumans need to look out for 'Number One'."
They are both.
This is why you send suspended blastocysts, rather than breathing/pooping/screwing humans. If your target destination ends up not being viable when you get there, you just abort (or head elsewhere, if you have the means.)
Who do you want setting telecommunication policy: experts in that field, or experts at winning elections? 200+ years ago, when our system of government first formed, life was simple enough that the qualifications for competent governance were not much above a grade-school education. Today's world is far more complex. The bar to entry into Congress is too low to fill those shoes competently.
Yes, yes it does. You're probably best off not knowing anything more.
Best. Slashdot. Interview. Evar. Pulitzer material.
This sounds like the ultimate study drug: pack more thinking into each real minute? Sign me up. It's a shame their first idea for it is a negative one.
I punch 3 holes in every receipt: one each for parent, left, and right. Then I attach them all by string, in a balanced tree. If I need multiple search keys, I just use different colors of string, and different sets of holes. Rebalancing can be a bit of a bitch, after insertion. (I never delete.)
So who's the Weird Al of Physics?
My vote is Zach Weinersmith
... And will slingshot the moon to higher and higher orbits.