mp3.com and my.mp3.com are two vastly different services. my.mp3.com let owners of CDs listen to songs from those CDs through streaming mp3s from their servers.
I think the final decision is a subjective one, and it's tougher to evaluate tons of applicants when you could just be evaluating a far fewer number of "reasonably safe bets".
Exactly. That's why "real" colleges and universities use SAT scores as "cut-offs." If you're below a certain score, you don't even get considered too thoroughly. But at the same time, the evaluation doesn't stop there. The Ars Digita evaluation does seem to stop there. Correct me if I'm wrong, Mr. Greenspun.
I guess that when you make your millions, you will be able to sit down with the people that are trying to get the free education for a week or more.
Since when does an interview have to last a week or not be done at all? All I'm trying to say is that with this type of admissions process, he's not likely to end up with students that are completely as he expected / hoped. Some changes (not taking a whole week per student) would probably remedy this to at least some extent.
I'm not impressed at all by his answers.. they seem pretty flaky and flippant for the most part, and some of the things he reveals that weren't evident before make the whole venture seem pretty shaky.. like:
Also we're lazy and don't want to spend a week interviewing each student.
um...that's pretty weak..you don't have to spend a week interviewing a student to get an idea of how dedicated/bright/talented he or she is...also:
That's because [SAT Scores] are a great indicator of someone's willingness and ability to sit down, do homework, take tests, etc.
Nope. Not true. SAT scores are a good indicator of future success which is very different from their "willingness and ability to sit down, do homework, take tests, etc." High SAT scores mean you'll likely be successful in the future because either 1) you are genuinely very adept at taking tests, or 2) you are rich and could afford tutoring, meaning you have a rich background and will be likely to have good contacts in the future. So what Ars Digita should be asking itself is is whether their admissions process can really separate between the two groups...and whether "test taking apititude" is something they care for at all... okay, and what about:
The university is more to benefit the instructors [snip] than the students.
umm.. this probably should be clarified a bit before anyone signs up..
wait a minute..didn't /. invent UNIX?
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I thought slashdot invented unix..doesn't this mean they own the rights to the domain? obviously this story was posted so that slashdot could claim the domain for themselves as the legal owners, and then with all this attention they'd re-sell it and buy AOL.
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Get rid of anonymity and you stifle voices that are unpopular. If there's a story about a particular issue that I feel strongly about (and that I know most of the community won't agree with), there's a good chance I won't post my opinion if I know it's just going to get moderated down and/or hurt my chances to moderate in the future. Getting rid of anonymity any more than we already have (default threshold = 1), and./ will be further down its road to a homogenous community expressing opinions all stemming from the same viewpoint.
One serious hypothesis about the reason for the fall of the Roman Empire is that they had lead in their drinking water and this caused lowered intelligence. If there really is a link between PCBs and lowered intelligence, this is something to take seriously.
Any "hacker" who refuses to pick up a manual or look at a help file is not a real hacker and is probably too proud to learn anything useful.
First, I believe there's an important distinction between "picking up a manual" and "looking at a help file." And that's exactly what's being debated. So by stating that it's an "or" proposition, you're basically discounting the important difference between the two. Second, all I'm saying is that at this point many of the slashdot readers are past the stage of reading manuals. Not that they were never in that stage. Thanks.
The article seems to be greatly confusing the definition of "observed," in terms of "observing" particle. It would seem from reading the post that "observing" means that a human "looks at" or "thinks about while looking at" a particular particle. That's just wrong. Observing really means shooting a photon at something. (in layman's terms)
All that matters in this particular case is that the father himself wants to stay in Cuba. That's really all that matters. If he wants to stay, that's his prerogative. Who are we to dictate to him where he should live and how he should live? If he goes back to Cuba even after now being in this country and having a real opportunity to stay here, then I have to say that it's his choice.
oh, and one more thing.. I do technical support with a company that answers questions related to any and all software/hardware issues. I can't tell you how many times I've had customers telling me they wish that they had a full manual, and that they find the in-program help difficult and confusing.
Bantik, I think you have to be aware of the fact that the response you get from here is going to be fairly skewed. The vast majority of people reading and contribution to slashdot are very technically savvy, and probably never read manuals or even in-program help files. So the advice they give you isn't going to be very applicable to your situation as a whole (unless your company makes very high-level software that's used exclusively by professionals, and very savvy ones at that)..so keep in mind if you were to ask this at a local flea market you'd be getting different responses..it all depends on what audience your company is targeting.
Give us your tired, your poor... Except Cuban kids. We throw those back.
Um..how would you feel if your 5 year old boy was being held hostage in a communist country by some distant "relatives"? That's exactly how the father of the boy was feeling before..and he had every right to. Our nation is as scary to communists as theirs is to us.
Your points seem completely reasonable to me if you're really had the experiences you claim to have had. Seems like I've just had more luck with Windows and you're had more luck with Linux.
oh boy, I seem to have touched a nerve. All that because you asked me a question ("does anyone really say Linux is free?") and I answered it in a way that you didn't want me to yet you can't refure? I'll answer your questions one at a time.
If they consider it free, what's that to you?
Absolutely nothing. They can consider it free if they want. I don't.
Do you really have a problem with it?
No, I don't.
Do you have something against 'poor' college students being able to have an OS that didn't require real $$'s from them to use?
Well, being a "poor" college student myself, first I'd have to say that Windows doesn't cost anyone anything extra really anway. With the "Windows Tax," since the computers come pre-loaded with Windows (and the vast, vast majority do..especially academic packages), it's not like the users really have to pay anything extra to buy their operating system. It comes with the computer. I really didn't pay anything for my copy of windows, it came with my computer. Even though there was the "Windows tax" added, it's really negligable. If anyone wants to not pay the Windows tax, they're going to pay in other ways..which I'll get to in response to your last question...
Are you jealous because the OS that you want to use requires you to fork over real $$'s?
Again, no. Why would I be jealous? I've used Linux, and I'll continue to do so. I'll also continue to run Windows the majority of the time, and enjoy doing so. Despite what I hear from everyone on/., when I'm in Windows, my system doesn't crash every 2 minutes. In fact, right now I've been over a week without a reboot, and that reboot was changing from Linux to Windows. I can't remember the last time Windows crashed on me requiring a reboot.
What's the point of your.sig anyways?
Well, mainly that if you're not willing to pay the "Windows Tax," and you insist upon either buying a PC made by one of the smaller linux-installing shops, or if you want to load linux onto a machine that had Windows before, you're going to pay in ways other than "real $$." You're going to pay in terms of the time it takes you to get things working that you had taken for granted in Windows. Like truetype fonts. Like sound. Like an ethernet connection. Like UDMA66 support. Like USB support. Like a stable GUI (still waiting for a stable Linux GUI). So, unless you don't value your time at all, Linux really isn't free, because you're going to be wasting so much time getting simple things working that you'll really be wasting something valuable (time).
Yeah, I'm pretty sure I remember a poll about a week ago, where a significant portion of the audience here voted that they liked Linux because it was free (like free beer). There you go, sounds like quite a few people are claiming it.
Hello, curious person. I am Dr. Norman Reil, from the Institute of Modern Gland study. I was the person who authored the study. While I'm not sure about grits (?), I can tell you that main theory I had that was taken out by the editors. The dinosoors (please note: that is the correct spelling) were cold-blooded originally. Then, after repeatedly stuffing hot piping loads of linux in their asses, their blood eventually began to warm. The ones with lots of linux stuffed in their asses were seen as "sexier," and were more likely to mate. This means they were selected for. So, as time went on, there was more and more linux ass-stuffing. This perpetuated itself, until the creatch-oors were cold blooded. Thank you, Dr. Norm
Okay, so the submission itself, as well as Hemos' comments, are obviously slanted and biased. Not biased necesarilly in a bad way, but biased nonetheless. The last time I checked, The New York Times wasn't meant to be a technical journal. It wasn't meant to be for the open source community only. It's meant for the general public. So what's wrong with stating what may seem to be obvious to our community in one of their articles? I don't think the article was trying to be deeply insightful, or to reveal things to the open source community that it didn't know about itself already. It was meant as an introduction to the general public on the matter. Just like all their other articles are aimed at the general public and presuppose no particular knowledge, so was this. There's nothing wrong with an article not being aimed at your particular group. Hemos and the submitter seem to think there is something wrong with this and that every single newspaper article should point out something new to them. If the article is so pointless to this community, why bother talking about it? I'll tell you why, because it's interesting to see open source getting mainstream press. So let's discuss the article on those merits instead of bashing its content.
I wonder how long it took them to come up ith words to make their JEDI acronym work..
Just Enother Dumb Icronym..no... Just Everyone Don't Imbibe..no... Jamaica: Everyone's Deliciously Invited..no... Justice Enhancing Device: Information..no... Julius the Eskimo Denies Inhalation..no...
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I can't believe the moderators these days. I used to shrug off the trolls, thinking they were just bitter. But now I know it's true. Anything pro-Linux really is moderated up, and anything anti-Linux really is moderated down. Had the above post been anti-Mircosoft (e.g., stating the fact that 5-15% of the market was using other OSes) then it definitely wouldn't have been moderated down. I can't believe this.
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Well.. the revolution may have been happening..but as of last Friday it's pretty much been put down.
mp3.com and my.mp3.com are two vastly different services. my.mp3.com let owners of CDs listen to songs from those CDs through streaming mp3s from their servers.
Well, we have the high commander (me) and then all the rest are just "comrades."
Exactly. That's why "real" colleges and universities use SAT scores as "cut-offs." If you're below a certain score, you don't even get considered too thoroughly. But at the same time, the evaluation doesn't stop there. The Ars Digita evaluation does seem to stop there. Correct me if I'm wrong, Mr. Greenspun.
Since when does an interview have to last a week or not be done at all? All I'm trying to say is that with this type of admissions process, he's not likely to end up with students that are completely as he expected / hoped. Some changes (not taking a whole week per student) would probably remedy this to at least some extent.
Also we're lazy and don't want to spend a week interviewing each student.
um...that's pretty weak..you don't have to spend a week interviewing a student to get an idea of how dedicated/bright/talented he or she is...also:
That's because [SAT Scores] are a great indicator of someone's willingness and ability to sit down, do homework, take tests, etc.
Nope. Not true. SAT scores are a good indicator of future success which is very different from their "willingness and ability to sit down, do homework, take tests, etc." High SAT scores mean you'll likely be successful in the future because either 1) you are genuinely very adept at taking tests, or 2) you are rich and could afford tutoring, meaning you have a rich background and will be likely to have good contacts in the future. So what Ars Digita should be asking itself is is whether their admissions process can really separate between the two groups...and whether "test taking apititude" is something they care for at all... okay, and what about:
The university is more to benefit the instructors [snip] than the students.
umm.. this probably should be clarified a bit before anyone signs up..
I thought slashdot invented unix..doesn't this mean they own the rights to the domain? obviously this story was posted so that slashdot could claim the domain for themselves as the legal owners, and then with all this attention they'd re-sell it and buy AOL.
Get rid of anonymity and you stifle voices that are unpopular. If there's a story about a particular issue that I feel strongly about (and that I know most of the community won't agree with), there's a good chance I won't post my opinion if I know it's just going to get moderated down and/or hurt my chances to moderate in the future. Getting rid of anonymity any more than we already have (default threshold = 1), and ./ will be further down its road to a homogenous community expressing opinions all stemming from the same viewpoint.
One serious hypothesis about the reason for the fall of the Roman Empire is that they had lead in their drinking water and this caused lowered intelligence. If there really is a link between PCBs and lowered intelligence, this is something to take seriously.
First, I believe there's an important distinction between "picking up a manual" and "looking at a help file." And that's exactly what's being debated. So by stating that it's an "or" proposition, you're basically discounting the important difference between the two. Second, all I'm saying is that at this point many of the slashdot readers are past the stage of reading manuals. Not that they were never in that stage. Thanks.
The article seems to be greatly confusing the definition of "observed," in terms of "observing" particle. It would seem from reading the post that "observing" means that a human "looks at" or "thinks about while looking at" a particular particle. That's just wrong. Observing really means shooting a photon at something. (in layman's terms)
All that matters in this particular case is that the father himself wants to stay in Cuba. That's really all that matters. If he wants to stay, that's his prerogative. Who are we to dictate to him where he should live and how he should live? If he goes back to Cuba even after now being in this country and having a real opportunity to stay here, then I have to say that it's his choice.
oh, and one more thing.. I do technical support with a company that answers questions related to any and all software/hardware issues. I can't tell you how many times I've had customers telling me they wish that they had a full manual, and that they find the in-program help difficult and confusing.
Bantik, I think you have to be aware of the fact that the response you get from here is going to be fairly skewed. The vast majority of people reading and contribution to slashdot are very technically savvy, and probably never read manuals or even in-program help files. So the advice they give you isn't going to be very applicable to your situation as a whole (unless your company makes very high-level software that's used exclusively by professionals, and very savvy ones at that)..so keep in mind if you were to ask this at a local flea market you'd be getting different responses..it all depends on what audience your company is targeting.
No. It's run by other people..so they could edit it.
Um..how would you feel if your 5 year old boy was being held hostage in a communist country by some distant "relatives"? That's exactly how the father of the boy was feeling before..and he had every right to. Our nation is as scary to communists as theirs is to us.
Your points seem completely reasonable to me if you're really had the experiences you claim to have had. Seems like I've just had more luck with Windows and you're had more luck with Linux.
If they consider it free, what's that to you?
Absolutely nothing. They can consider it free if they want. I don't.
Do you really have a problem with it?
No, I don't.
Do you have something against 'poor' college students being able to have an OS that didn't require real $$'s from them to use?
Well, being a "poor" college student myself, first I'd have to say that Windows doesn't cost anyone anything extra really anway. With the "Windows Tax," since the computers come pre-loaded with Windows (and the vast, vast majority do..especially academic packages), it's not like the users really have to pay anything extra to buy their operating system. It comes with the computer. I really didn't pay anything for my copy of windows, it came with my computer. Even though there was the "Windows tax" added, it's really negligable. If anyone wants to not pay the Windows tax, they're going to pay in other ways..which I'll get to in response to your last question...
Are you jealous because the OS that you want to use requires you to fork over real $$'s?
Again, no. Why would I be jealous? I've used Linux, and I'll continue to do so. I'll also continue to run Windows the majority of the time, and enjoy doing so. Despite what I hear from everyone on /., when I'm in Windows, my system doesn't crash every 2 minutes. In fact, right now I've been over a week without a reboot, and that reboot was changing from Linux to Windows. I can't remember the last time Windows crashed on me requiring a reboot.
What's the point of your .sig anyways?
Well, mainly that if you're not willing to pay the "Windows Tax," and you insist upon either buying a PC made by one of the smaller linux-installing shops, or if you want to load linux onto a machine that had Windows before, you're going to pay in ways other than "real $$." You're going to pay in terms of the time it takes you to get things working that you had taken for granted in Windows. Like truetype fonts. Like sound. Like an ethernet connection. Like UDMA66 support. Like USB support. Like a stable GUI (still waiting for a stable Linux GUI). So, unless you don't value your time at all, Linux really isn't free, because you're going to be wasting so much time getting simple things working that you'll really be wasting something valuable (time).
Yeah, I'm pretty sure I remember a poll about a week ago, where a significant portion of the audience here voted that they liked Linux because it was free (like free beer). There you go, sounds like quite a few people are claiming it.
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Hello, curious person. I am Dr. Norman Reil, from the Institute of Modern Gland study. I was the person who authored the study. While I'm not sure about grits (?), I can tell you that main theory I had that was taken out by the editors. The dinosoors (please note: that is the correct spelling) were cold-blooded originally. Then, after repeatedly stuffing hot piping loads of linux in their asses, their blood eventually began to warm. The ones with lots of linux stuffed in their asses were seen as "sexier," and were more likely to mate. This means they were selected for. So, as time went on, there was more and more linux ass-stuffing. This perpetuated itself, until the creatch-oors were cold blooded. Thank you,
Dr. Norm
Okay, so the submission itself, as well as Hemos' comments, are obviously slanted and biased. Not biased necesarilly in a bad way, but biased nonetheless. The last time I checked, The New York Times wasn't meant to be a technical journal. It wasn't meant to be for the open source community only. It's meant for the general public. So what's wrong with stating what may seem to be obvious to our community in one of their articles? I don't think the article was trying to be deeply insightful, or to reveal things to the open source community that it didn't know about itself already. It was meant as an introduction to the general public on the matter. Just like all their other articles are aimed at the general public and presuppose no particular knowledge, so was this. There's nothing wrong with an article not being aimed at your particular group. Hemos and the submitter seem to think there is something wrong with this and that every single newspaper article should point out something new to them. If the article is so pointless to this community, why bother talking about it? I'll tell you why, because it's interesting to see open source getting mainstream press. So let's discuss the article on those merits instead of bashing its content.
Just Enother Dumb Icronym..no...
Just Everyone Don't Imbibe..no...
Jamaica: Everyone's Deliciously Invited..no...
Justice Enhancing Device: Information..no...
Julius the Eskimo Denies Inhalation..no...
I can't believe the moderators these days. I used to shrug off the trolls, thinking they were just bitter. But now I know it's true. Anything pro-Linux really is moderated up, and anything anti-Linux really is moderated down. Had the above post been anti-Mircosoft (e.g., stating the fact that 5-15% of the market was using other OSes) then it definitely wouldn't have been moderated down. I can't believe this.