If you would take out that translation layer and use all available micro-ops
All micro-ops ARE available in x86/AMD64. Each and every micro-op is an actual instruction of the instruction set. You don't seem to understand this, as your entire argument seems to rely on not being able to use the micro-ops directly. They are directly usable.
anyway, that layer takes out performance, consume resources and really not needed if you change architecture..
You claim that it consumes performance, but the performance winner disagrees. The advantage of RISC was higher clock rates, which remained true until the clock rate wall, at which point reducing stalls and increasing IPC became the goal, which is where CISC excels and RISC does not. The reason this is so is because RISC simply doesnt have the code density that CISC has. That 2 byte instruction on x86 that emits the 3 necessary micro-ops requires 6 or 12 bytes on RISC to perform the same operations. It doesnt take a genius to realize that one of these will have significant instruction bandwidth problems before the other as IPC increases.
You are also forgetting that a x86 or a amd64 is a RISC cpu with a layer od CISC hidding the RISC.
You ignorants keep saying this shit, but its not accurate at all. You have taken a small truth and inflated it into a big lie.
The small truth is that there IS a layer that converts instructions into micro-ops, that there are instructions will in fact generate 3+ micro-ops.
The big bullshit ignorant lie is that you then conclude that ALL instructions are converted into multiple micro-ops. Thats just not the case.
Its not "CISC on RISC" -- its "CISC and RISC" -- The basic technique in the inevitable conclusion regardless of which place you start. If Intel had started with RISC and was trying to increase performance, they would note that instruction bandwidth is one of their bottlenecks and would then add macro-instructions that combine common sequences of micro-instructions. Now Bobs your uncle and you have the same "translation layer" technique.
The only real rational argument is that the instruction set isnt very pretty, that its surely much uglier than it needs to be. If you were to implement all the same functionality from scratch you would be able to make it much prettier, and also in a few cases make some more optimal decisions about which instructions are shorter than others. The later isnt a real argument because pure RISC doesnt make any optimality decisions about instruction length instead choosing "all the same length"
but then modified it enough that EGA software wouldn't work with it..
The Tandy 1000 did not support the 640x350x16 mode that EGA boasted, nor did it support EGA's 64-color base palette (The Tandy 1000 just had a single static 16-color palette in 320x200 mode)
Yes, and it was well known at the time that if you wanted to collect on your houses fire insurance all you had to do was set up your Adam to perform a long print cycle. It just got hotter and hotter and hotter until it burst into flames, and then it continued to get hotter.
Why can't we, as a nation, demand that our government stop allowing corporations to outsource our jobs to indentured servants in other countries?
We could demand that, but its less efficient for everyone. You would be trading away low priced goods for low age jobs, or another way to state it is that you want to buy low wage jobs with high priced goods. Still one more way to state it is that you want the government to require both businesses and people to be exploited by forcing them to stay in Detroit.
No matter how it is stated, its stupid. The problem is that you arent actually considering the consequences of what you are saying, just like how the leaders of Detroit didnt consider the consequences of their liberal policies. The solution to harmful policies is not to demand that the government prevent people from avoiding those harmful policies. They are harmful, its why they are fleeing, and the solution isnt optimistic good intentions. The solution is to stop doing harmful things. The solution is to face the consequences of reality and realize that you cannot every sustain the kind of liberal utopia that Detroit wanted to be without fucking people really really rough and hard.
counter-balance to the Democrats that have allegedly managed to run Detroit into the ground...
"allegedly" ???
Its a fact that Detroit was run into the ground, and its also a fact that the Democrats ran the city for literally 5 contiguous decades.
You seem to be hypothesizing that Detroit might have been run into the ground by people that werent making any of the decisions there, rather than the people that were. Interesting blindfold you have.
If you are against tenure, you are against the following: (1) the right to bargain, (2) contracts, (3) due process, and (4) property rights.
(1) The fact is that you do not have the right to bargain over everything. For example you do not have the right to bargain away the rights of other human beings, such as the rights of the children in these class rooms.
(2) The California courts were not against contracts when they ruled that contractual noncompete clauses were void. So too, if you are against specific clauses in other countracts that does not mean that you are against contracts.
(3) This story is in fact about due process at work. The people filing suit are against tenure and are using due process to fight it.
(4) WTF?? Property?
So your points 1-3 are straight out of liberal talking point dogma. After all, who wants to be against the right to bargain, contracts, and due process? The problem of course is that these things do not lead from the premise that those against tenture are against those things. Dishonesty, the liberal way.
As for point 4 -- are you suggesting that 'tenture' is property? That you get to 'own' the position, as if it were your 'possession' -- I'd love to 'own' my position as well -- too bad you can't actually own a career.
You can ignore reality, but you cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.
Saying that teachers should be suddenly stripped of their tenure status/benefits is the same as stockholders saying that CEOs should be stripped of their golden parachutes.
Umm, no it isn't.
Nobody forced you to buy stock. The government IS forcing you to pay for these teachers.
People knew damned well what they were getting into, kicked the can down the road and now someone has to pay the piper.
People that arent paying for it now, kicked that can down that road. It was wrong of them to do it.
Now tell me which is worse?
A) Violating their contracts by firing some teachers that happen to be fucking up our children.
B) Forcing people that had no say whatsoever in the matter to honor a contract that they never would have agreed to had it been their decision.
The problem with public sector unions and these "in the future" provisions is that none of the people at the negotiating table have to face the consequences they are negotiating over. None of them have to face the consequences so long as we continue to say that the contract must be honored above all else.
I say fuck that, the contract was immediately void because the contract imposed an obligation on unrepresented people (people that werent even born yet, in fact.) The people still around who are in the greatest position to have known the injustice of such a contract if upheld and could have made choices about it are precisely those teachers with tenure, yet they chose to try to benefit from that very injustice for which we are discussing. They neither deserve nor should they entertain the protection of law on this matter at all, yet here they are trying desperately to use the law as a weapon against innocent people so that they themselves can benefit. Fuck them. Fuck them. Fuck them.
This fast-paced style of game is most commonly referred to as "blitz".
No, Blitz is slower than Bullet/Lightning.
Blitz is typically considered to be games where players have somewhere between 3 minutes and 14 minutes to make all their moves, and most frequently 5 minute or 2 minutes with a 12 seconds increment added after each move.
Between 15 minutes and 1 hour of often called "Rapid."
Now STFU when you know that you are ignorant. We both know that you knew that you were ignorant.
Modern chess grandmasters frequently play whats called "lightning" or "bullet" chess with a time control of 60 seconds for each player for all of their moves is the entire game. In this time control, a player who uses 71 seconds has already lost on time.
Clearly someone who suggests "scholars mate" here such as yourself would not understand that these GM's actually play extremely strongly even with so little time on the clock. While this speed of chess was popularized by computer interfaces and online chess servers, its actually played OTB as well
Magnus Carlsen is the highest rated chess player ever. The standard ELO chess rating system is set up such that a +200 point difference in ELO equals a 3:1 advantage (a games score is 1.0 for a win, 0.5 for a draw, or 0.0 for a loss... 3:1 advantage = 0.75 expected value) His rating is over 2800, so against an average opponent with a 1200 rating his advantage is over 6500:1.
Unfortunately these "libertarian" leaning Repubs also have a penchant for rallying to the CUT TAXES! flag while doing nothing to cut federal spending to compensate.
Havent you been paying any attention since the democrats lost the House? Many budgets have left the House with significant spending cuts, but then the Senate refuses to even discuss them.
This is how the process used to work: The House drafted a spending bill, the Senate then Amended the spending bill and passed it back to the House, who then either Amended it kicking it back or passed it themselves.
Now the popular claim by Democrats is that the Republicans are obstructing normal process, but it is the Democrats that have not been doing their duty in amending spending bills and sending them back. They don't amend them. They don't bring them to a vote. They just bury them. But its all the Republicans fault, right?
Selfish dykes ruining shit for the rest of the lesbians...
First of all, if you need public assistance then maybe you shouldn't be having children. Second of all, if you cannot have children in a normal way then maybe you shouldn't be fucking over the people that help you have one in an abnormal way. Thirdly, fuck everyone involved for going to craigslist for this shit. What. The. Fuck.
"n++" in particular requires knowledge of pre and post increment ops.
No it doesn't. Nothing about it requires knowledge of pre-increment or post-increment since their is no dependency on either. All you need to know is that it increments, and thats all the compiler needs to know too.
No, actually, most other things are not called slavery.
it is slavery 100% of the time that you demand the uncompensated efforts of others. 100%. if you disagree, its because you actually support slavery but wish that there there was a different word for it.
If the answer to that is the sound of crickets, then "communist" price controls are entirely appropriate.
What you seem to be missing is that in this case, the ISP is a community coop, and thus almost exactly fits the definition of "communism" already.
I believe the facts here are that the coop pays a shitload of money to connect to the rest of the world, and some of the reason for that would be their remote location, but primarily the reason for that is that these idiots don't know what they are doing and are getting taken advantage of by everyone they have to do business with.
The kicker is that none of the people in that community has much incentive to learn how wheel and deal in the market that they jumped into. The most you will get for all that time and effort is a better internet connection.
Fine only one should die, but you think bank balance is good deciding measure?
Since the human being that performs the transplant wants to be compensated for his efforts, yes. Anything else, no matter how you slice it, is called slavery.
Cloud issues can really be hard to solve from the end users side of things. For example I play a lot of TF2 and Valve somewhere along the way decided that it would be cool to add cloud features such as tracking my favorite servers. This cloud feature can be disabled, but is on by default.
Some of the servers that I have added to favorites no longer exist, and the TF2 client quietly doesnt list any servers that it cannot get a ping from so they dont appear on this list within the UI. Because of this, there is no way to remove those servers from the list. Thus my system sends a bunch of useless pings to now random IP addresses every time I run TF2 and there is no way to prevent it from happening from inside the ecosystem because even a full reinstall will reacquire the list with the now defunct servers in it before I have a chance to disable the cloud features.
The "framebuffer loop"???!!! Do you seriously think every pixel is pushed out there by the CPU?
The emphasis is mine. You clearly think that there is only one CPU in your desktop. That has pretty much never been true over the past 30+ years. Even a humble 8088 system with a CGA graphics card had multiple CPU's.. just because you couldnt program them directly is irrelevant..
..what IS relevant is that you clearly dont know what you are talking about even on a very basic level. Hard to believe given your ID but there it is... you dont know dick about the shit you've been using for decades.
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I thought in reverse polish it was Shoowh.
If you would take out that translation layer and use all available micro-ops
All micro-ops ARE available in x86/AMD64. Each and every micro-op is an actual instruction of the instruction set. You don't seem to understand this, as your entire argument seems to rely on not being able to use the micro-ops directly. They are directly usable.
anyway, that layer takes out performance, consume resources and really not needed if you change architecture..
You claim that it consumes performance, but the performance winner disagrees. The advantage of RISC was higher clock rates, which remained true until the clock rate wall, at which point reducing stalls and increasing IPC became the goal, which is where CISC excels and RISC does not. The reason this is so is because RISC simply doesnt have the code density that CISC has. That 2 byte instruction on x86 that emits the 3 necessary micro-ops requires 6 or 12 bytes on RISC to perform the same operations. It doesnt take a genius to realize that one of these will have significant instruction bandwidth problems before the other as IPC increases.
Intel is too busy printing money with their best fabs to be screwing around with low margin ARM parts.
You are also forgetting that a x86 or a amd64 is a RISC cpu with a layer od CISC hidding the RISC.
You ignorants keep saying this shit, but its not accurate at all. You have taken a small truth and inflated it into a big lie.
The small truth is that there IS a layer that converts instructions into micro-ops, that there are instructions will in fact generate 3+ micro-ops.
The big bullshit ignorant lie is that you then conclude that ALL instructions are converted into multiple micro-ops. Thats just not the case.
Its not "CISC on RISC" -- its "CISC and RISC" -- The basic technique in the inevitable conclusion regardless of which place you start. If Intel had started with RISC and was trying to increase performance, they would note that instruction bandwidth is one of their bottlenecks and would then add macro-instructions that combine common sequences of micro-instructions. Now Bobs your uncle and you have the same "translation layer" technique.
The only real rational argument is that the instruction set isnt very pretty, that its surely much uglier than it needs to be. If you were to implement all the same functionality from scratch you would be able to make it much prettier, and also in a few cases make some more optimal decisions about which instructions are shorter than others. The later isnt a real argument because pure RISC doesnt make any optimality decisions about instruction length instead choosing "all the same length"
but then modified it enough that EGA software wouldn't work with it..
The Tandy 1000 did not support the 640x350x16 mode that EGA boasted, nor did it support EGA's 64-color base palette (The Tandy 1000 just had a single static 16-color palette in 320x200 mode)
Yes, and it was well known at the time that if you wanted to collect on your houses fire insurance all you had to do was set up your Adam to perform a long print cycle. It just got hotter and hotter and hotter until it burst into flames, and then it continued to get hotter.
Why can't we, as a nation, demand that our government stop allowing corporations to outsource our jobs to indentured servants in other countries?
We could demand that, but its less efficient for everyone. You would be trading away low priced goods for low age jobs, or another way to state it is that you want to buy low wage jobs with high priced goods. Still one more way to state it is that you want the government to require both businesses and people to be exploited by forcing them to stay in Detroit.
No matter how it is stated, its stupid. The problem is that you arent actually considering the consequences of what you are saying, just like how the leaders of Detroit didnt consider the consequences of their liberal policies. The solution to harmful policies is not to demand that the government prevent people from avoiding those harmful policies. They are harmful, its why they are fleeing, and the solution isnt optimistic good intentions. The solution is to stop doing harmful things. The solution is to face the consequences of reality and realize that you cannot every sustain the kind of liberal utopia that Detroit wanted to be without fucking people really really rough and hard.
..and here is a video of the Detroit city council in action.
counter-balance to the Democrats that have allegedly managed to run Detroit into the ground...
"allegedly" ???
Its a fact that Detroit was run into the ground, and its also a fact that the Democrats ran the city for literally 5 contiguous decades.
You seem to be hypothesizing that Detroit might have been run into the ground by people that werent making any of the decisions there, rather than the people that were. Interesting blindfold you have.
So not only do you think its acceptable for the union to protect bad teachers, you defend that position with name calling bullshit. Thanks.
If you are against tenure, you are against the following: (1) the right to bargain, (2) contracts, (3) due process, and (4) property rights.
(1) The fact is that you do not have the right to bargain over everything. For example you do not have the right to bargain away the rights of other human beings, such as the rights of the children in these class rooms.
(2) The California courts were not against contracts when they ruled that contractual noncompete clauses were void. So too, if you are against specific clauses in other countracts that does not mean that you are against contracts.
(3) This story is in fact about due process at work. The people filing suit are against tenure and are using due process to fight it.
(4) WTF?? Property?
So your points 1-3 are straight out of liberal talking point dogma. After all, who wants to be against the right to bargain, contracts, and due process? The problem of course is that these things do not lead from the premise that those against tenture are against those things. Dishonesty, the liberal way.
As for point 4 -- are you suggesting that 'tenture' is property? That you get to 'own' the position, as if it were your 'possession' -- I'd love to 'own' my position as well -- too bad you can't actually own a career.
You can ignore reality, but you cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.
Saying that teachers should be suddenly stripped of their tenure status/benefits is the same as stockholders saying that CEOs should be stripped of their golden parachutes.
Umm, no it isn't.
Nobody forced you to buy stock. The government IS forcing you to pay for these teachers.
People knew damned well what they were getting into, kicked the can down the road and now someone has to pay the piper.
People that arent paying for it now, kicked that can down that road. It was wrong of them to do it.
Now tell me which is worse?
A) Violating their contracts by firing some teachers that happen to be fucking up our children.
B) Forcing people that had no say whatsoever in the matter to honor a contract that they never would have agreed to had it been their decision.
The problem with public sector unions and these "in the future" provisions is that none of the people at the negotiating table have to face the consequences they are negotiating over. None of them have to face the consequences so long as we continue to say that the contract must be honored above all else.
I say fuck that, the contract was immediately void because the contract imposed an obligation on unrepresented people (people that werent even born yet, in fact.) The people still around who are in the greatest position to have known the injustice of such a contract if upheld and could have made choices about it are precisely those teachers with tenure, yet they chose to try to benefit from that very injustice for which we are discussing. They neither deserve nor should they entertain the protection of law on this matter at all, yet here they are trying desperately to use the law as a weapon against innocent people so that they themselves can benefit. Fuck them. Fuck them. Fuck them.
Kids, kids, relax! Stop arguing. You're both... just awful.
Which argument is that? Only a jaded Democrat that cant disagree but otherwise wants to defend them would call what I was doing "arguing."
There is simply no excuse for either the Democrats in the Senate (in particular Harry Reid) or the Democrats that spread the lie.
This fast-paced style of game is most commonly referred to as "blitz".
No, Blitz is slower than Bullet/Lightning.
Blitz is typically considered to be games where players have somewhere between 3 minutes and 14 minutes to make all their moves, and most frequently 5 minute or 2 minutes with a 12 seconds increment added after each move.
Between 15 minutes and 1 hour of often called "Rapid."
Now STFU when you know that you are ignorant. We both know that you knew that you were ignorant.
Modern chess grandmasters frequently play whats called "lightning" or "bullet" chess with a time control of 60 seconds for each player for all of their moves is the entire game. In this time control, a player who uses 71 seconds has already lost on time.
... 3:1 advantage = 0.75 expected value) His rating is over 2800, so against an average opponent with a 1200 rating his advantage is over 6500:1.
Clearly someone who suggests "scholars mate" here such as yourself would not understand that these GM's actually play extremely strongly even with so little time on the clock. While this speed of chess was popularized by computer interfaces and online chess servers, its actually played OTB as well
Magnus Carlsen is the highest rated chess player ever. The standard ELO chess rating system is set up such that a +200 point difference in ELO equals a 3:1 advantage (a games score is 1.0 for a win, 0.5 for a draw, or 0.0 for a loss
Unfortunately these "libertarian" leaning Repubs also have a penchant for rallying to the CUT TAXES! flag while doing nothing to cut federal spending to compensate.
Havent you been paying any attention since the democrats lost the House? Many budgets have left the House with significant spending cuts, but then the Senate refuses to even discuss them.
This is how the process used to work: The House drafted a spending bill, the Senate then Amended the spending bill and passed it back to the House, who then either Amended it kicking it back or passed it themselves.
Now the popular claim by Democrats is that the Republicans are obstructing normal process, but it is the Democrats that have not been doing their duty in amending spending bills and sending them back. They don't amend them. They don't bring them to a vote. They just bury them. But its all the Republicans fault, right?
Selfish dykes ruining shit for the rest of the lesbians...
First of all, if you need public assistance then maybe you shouldn't be having children. Second of all, if you cannot have children in a normal way then maybe you shouldn't be fucking over the people that help you have one in an abnormal way. Thirdly, fuck everyone involved for going to craigslist for this shit. What. The. Fuck.
the day people stop clapping their hands just because the spacecraft takes off without blowing up on the launchpad.
People clap because its fucking awesome.
"n++" in particular requires knowledge of pre and post increment ops.
No it doesn't. Nothing about it requires knowledge of pre-increment or post-increment since their is no dependency on either. All you need to know is that it increments, and thats all the compiler needs to know too.
No, actually, most other things are not called slavery.
it is slavery 100% of the time that you demand the uncompensated efforts of others. 100%. if you disagree, its because you actually support slavery but wish that there there was a different word for it.
Agreed but as long as people play the "less of two evils" card this isn't going to go away.
When you vote for the lesser of two evils you are still voting for evil, and each time they win we get increasing evil.
If the answer to that is the sound of crickets, then "communist" price controls are entirely appropriate.
What you seem to be missing is that in this case, the ISP is a community coop, and thus almost exactly fits the definition of "communism" already.
I believe the facts here are that the coop pays a shitload of money to connect to the rest of the world, and some of the reason for that would be their remote location, but primarily the reason for that is that these idiots don't know what they are doing and are getting taken advantage of by everyone they have to do business with.
The kicker is that none of the people in that community has much incentive to learn how wheel and deal in the market that they jumped into. The most you will get for all that time and effort is a better internet connection.
Fine only one should die, but you think bank balance is good deciding measure?
Since the human being that performs the transplant wants to be compensated for his efforts, yes. Anything else, no matter how you slice it, is called slavery.
God bless the cloud, right?
Cloud issues can really be hard to solve from the end users side of things. For example I play a lot of TF2 and Valve somewhere along the way decided that it would be cool to add cloud features such as tracking my favorite servers. This cloud feature can be disabled, but is on by default.
Some of the servers that I have added to favorites no longer exist, and the TF2 client quietly doesnt list any servers that it cannot get a ping from so they dont appear on this list within the UI. Because of this, there is no way to remove those servers from the list. Thus my system sends a bunch of useless pings to now random IP addresses every time I run TF2 and there is no way to prevent it from happening from inside the ecosystem because even a full reinstall will reacquire the list with the now defunct servers in it before I have a chance to disable the cloud features.
The "framebuffer loop"???!!! Do you seriously think every pixel is pushed out there by the CPU?
The emphasis is mine. You clearly think that there is only one CPU in your desktop. That has pretty much never been true over the past 30+ years. Even a humble 8088 system with a CGA graphics card had multiple CPU's .. just because you couldnt program them directly is irrelevant..
..what IS relevant is that you clearly dont know what you are talking about even on a very basic level. Hard to believe given your ID but there it is... you dont know dick about the shit you've been using for decades.