AMD moved from 32nm and 28nm to 14nm, and amazingly experienced the same performance increases Intel saw when it moved from one node to another.
I realize that sadly for some of you guys that cpus are inexplicable magic boxes, but they just arent. Put some effort into understanding, or turn in your geek card.
Huge breakthroughs happen when some option has not been tried due to lack of funds, vision, laziness, monopoly markets or some other crap.
Sure, never because of lack of access to materials. I guess you are going to pretend that all falls into "some other crap" but... it doesnt.
Clearly what you think is that Intel makes cpus from scratch starting with just the basic elements, builds all its equipment starting from scratch starting with just the basic elements, etc..
Clearly thats what you think. Wrong. So horribly wrong that you shouldnt comment unless its to ask pretty much anything... because you dont know... anything.
How come whenever moores law comes up there is always some guy... today its you... that acts all authoritative, but actually gets it pretty much completely wrong?
The part where you acted like you knew what you were talking about instead of just misremembering some thing you didnt understand when you heard it, is called dishonesty. You, sir, are a liar. You arent a liar because you are wrong. You are a liar because you pretended to know.
The part where you literally got it all wrong tells us that the last thing you care about is veracity.
How about the California government worry instead about aqueduct maintenance?
You guys have a serious water shortage, but you cant even keep your aqueducts from overflowing. Seriously. But lets worry about electromagnetic radiation, a byproduct of nature that filled every point in the entire cosmos for the entire time mankind has existed.
Back in the 80s Apple pioneered mainstream computing in classrooms. They had very active educational programs and, most importantly, did the accounting, training, and political legwork that made it easy for schools to adapt apple hardware.
...leading to Apple needing to be bailed out by Microsoft when those education contracts dried up.
I am dumbfounded by the lack of insight some of these comments have.
AMD is not "getting serious." The performance improvements for AMD are mainly due to Global Foundries opening up a 14nm fab.
The performance delta between AMD and Intel has been highly correlated with the difference in transistor density ever since the first Core. AMD doesnt own any FAB's any longer and hasn't since those first Core's. Global Foundries was started when AMD's spun off its FABs into a separate rent-a-fab model enterprise, and they may have some sort of contract where they have to exclusively use Global Foundries and if so thats highly unfortunate for AMD given the rise of TSMC and company.
Ryzen is AMD on 14nm, so its performance-competitive with Intel on 14nm. Neither company is stupid when it comes to designing a chip and for the most part they both make very good use of their transistor budgets. Intel has designed some bonehead chips in the past (netburst) but its just not the case today (no Itanium-class distraction.) AMD hasnt really designed any bonehead chips. Ever. They just havent had access to parity FAB's. Intel had a clear process advantage and now they don't, and will never have one again.
maybe if they fired their 'diversity officer' (yes, that's a real job at intel) and hired based on skills and need rather than quota by race and gender (and h1b, of course) they'd be able to lower selling costs.
They may have selected some staff poorly but I think a far more important issue is that their 14nm process advantage technique had led to poor yields that they are still tock tock tocking on. Not saying that Intel made bad choices, but they are screwed because poor yields at 14nm means no yields at 10nm. They know it which is why they've just done massive layoffs and they keep talking up their new "cloud strategy."
AMD isnt Intels primary competitor. AMD "catching up" is a symptom of Intels real problem, which is that Intel's vertical branding strategy ultimately isnt competitive against the rant-a-fab conglomerates like TSMC which are being driven by the massive sales of ARM processors and accessory chips, and one by one these rent-a-fab's are beating Intel to 10nm. These Ryzen chips are still just on 14nm like Intel and being made by one of these rent-a-fab's. You ain't seen nuthin' yet. What the hell is Intel going to do when all the rent-a-fab's are shipping mostly 10nm product?
If you have Intel stock.. I highly recommend that you sell now before its too late. Double check your retirement accounts.
President can't exclude sections of a law just to suit his own ideals.
I agree with you but consider the ramifications.
Obama let federal laws go unenforced and some of those arent going to be enforced under Trump either. For instance Trump has said marijuana legalization is a State issue not a Federal issue and that he will continue to neglect to enforce Federal marijuana laws. Obama didnt enforce them for different reasons.
On a Federal statute level, our laws rank the crime of possession of schedule 1 substances such as marijuana as worse than murder.
The problem is far too many federal laws. At some point there are so many that the executive branch will have to pick and choose even if they dont want to. We are probably well past that point. I'm sitting in an apartment that probably isnt big enough to store a printed copy of our federal laws.
So is this really all they are saying: they read stack space that is unused to get info that may have been left there from other threads because of the way cache isn't cleared
No. You arent even close to what they are saying.
The attack vector talked about is measuring the time it takes to read memory addresses. Code that has been executed recently will be in the cpu's cache(s) and therefore can be read faster.
Can I ask why someone with such poor comprehension on technical matters in reading slashdot?
Keeping the locations of things in memory unpredictable so that, for example, if I am trying to exploit some arbitrary code execution flaw I can't count that my code will end up in the place I want or expect it.
Close but not quite right.
Its so that you can't count on OS/Host code being at a specific address. Your own code doesnt need to care what address its loaded at, even if its nefarious (every architecture has relative jump instructions.) The idea is that something like the browsers file i/o routines arent being placed at a predictable address, so your nefarious code cant just branch directly into them.
The main flaw of address randomization is that address information can still leak through the stack if you can first make sure something that calls the routine you want to call has previously been called. For instance if you can save a cookie in your javascript code immediately before your injected code executes, then any routine the browser calls to save a cookie may now have its address right there on the stack for your injected code to grab.
Its better than not doing it, but not entirely effective w.r.t. its purpose.
Ah I see, you think that our only federal office should be decided by poplar vote.
I wonder tho if you were one of the ones complaining about there being "battleground states" on the pretense that so few States shouldnt decide this particular election.
Your thinking would be screwed up because that second premise, that "battleground states" decide the election, is in error. But if we went to a popular vote, then there really would be only a few States deciding the election.
Our founding fathers were brilliant, and after that we screwed up how the Senate is formed, which is why the Senate is now House 2.0.
The Democrats painted themselves into a corner when they became the Corporate Bitch party under Bill Clinton.
Now that they have been caught so plainly betraying the people of their party, they can expect campaign donations from individuals to greatly dwindle. In other words the DNC's only move is to go "all-in" as the Corporate Bitch party. I'm talking about actions here not words. They will continue to pretend to be pro-worker, but what their elected representatives vote for will continue to not be. Past the point of no return.
If the Democrats are to really try to fix their problem, there is a good chance that they will become a 3rd party behind either the Green's or the Libertarians, because they just wont have the money to win elections any more. You can forget about any real grass roots, although they might pretend once in awhile. It will be a losing fight to retain the seats that they have, with no shot at all for them to be taking any new ones, for years.
The remaining established Democrats are not going to go down without a fight. Here "going down" doesnt mean losing to Republicans, it means being voted out by their own party members. They will continue to take every corporate dollar they can because the other options is going away.
In an ideal world the betrayers would just go away and let the party fix itself as quickly as it can... but thats not going to happen. Expect them to get even dirtier towards actual progressives. Even more corrupt towards actual progressives.
I myself am mostly conservative I guess, but not a Republican. I believe in liberty and small government, but most of all I believe that voting for the lesser of two evils is still supporting evil. I voted for Gary Johnson because ever argument against him was speculation (FUD) about what he would do in the future with not a single reasoned argument against him about anything that he ever did in the past. I know for certain that Hillary and Donald are both fucking evil.
I like the part where the actual truth tellers post begins at -1 and the idiot that truly doesnt know what he is talking about began at +2 and immediately got upvoted.
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AMD didnt do shit with the Ryzen chips.
AMD moved from 32nm and 28nm to 14nm, and amazingly experienced the same performance increases Intel saw when it moved from one node to another.
I realize that sadly for some of you guys that cpus are inexplicable magic boxes, but they just arent. Put some effort into understanding, or turn in your geek card.
Huge breakthroughs happen when some option has not been tried due to lack of funds, vision, laziness, monopoly markets or some other crap.
Sure, never because of lack of access to materials. I guess you are going to pretend that all falls into "some other crap" but... it doesnt.
Clearly what you think is that Intel makes cpus from scratch starting with just the basic elements, builds all its equipment starting from scratch starting with just the basic elements, etc..
Clearly thats what you think. Wrong. So horribly wrong that you shouldnt comment unless its to ask pretty much anything... because you dont know... anything.
How come whenever moores law comes up there is always some guy... today its you... that acts all authoritative, but actually gets it pretty much completely wrong?
The part where you acted like you knew what you were talking about instead of just misremembering some thing you didnt understand when you heard it, is called dishonesty. You, sir, are a liar. You arent a liar because you are wrong. You are a liar because you pretended to know.
The part where you literally got it all wrong tells us that the last thing you care about is veracity.
How about the California government worry instead about aqueduct maintenance?
You guys have a serious water shortage, but you cant even keep your aqueducts from overflowing. Seriously. But lets worry about electromagnetic radiation, a byproduct of nature that filled every point in the entire cosmos for the entire time mankind has existed.
Back in the 80s Apple pioneered mainstream computing in classrooms. They had very active educational programs and, most importantly, did the accounting, training, and political legwork that made it easy for schools to adapt apple hardware.
Just what Intel needs, even more of its fabs not making any money for them, except this time its on purpose?
Potential for growth is very important when valuating a stock, regardless of how long ago the IPO was.
If your pension holds any index funds, then its still quite true.
I am dumbfounded by the lack of insight some of these comments have.
AMD is not "getting serious." The performance improvements for AMD are mainly due to Global Foundries opening up a 14nm fab.
The performance delta between AMD and Intel has been highly correlated with the difference in transistor density ever since the first Core. AMD doesnt own any FAB's any longer and hasn't since those first Core's. Global Foundries was started when AMD's spun off its FABs into a separate rent-a-fab model enterprise, and they may have some sort of contract where they have to exclusively use Global Foundries and if so thats highly unfortunate for AMD given the rise of TSMC and company.
Ryzen is AMD on 14nm, so its performance-competitive with Intel on 14nm. Neither company is stupid when it comes to designing a chip and for the most part they both make very good use of their transistor budgets. Intel has designed some bonehead chips in the past (netburst) but its just not the case today (no Itanium-class distraction.) AMD hasnt really designed any bonehead chips. Ever. They just havent had access to parity FAB's. Intel had a clear process advantage and now they don't, and will never have one again.
maybe if they fired their 'diversity officer' (yes, that's a real job at intel) and hired based on skills and need rather than quota by race and gender (and h1b, of course) they'd be able to lower selling costs.
They may have selected some staff poorly but I think a far more important issue is that their 14nm process advantage technique had led to poor yields that they are still tock tock tocking on. Not saying that Intel made bad choices, but they are screwed because poor yields at 14nm means no yields at 10nm. They know it which is why they've just done massive layoffs and they keep talking up their new "cloud strategy."
AMD isnt Intels primary competitor. AMD "catching up" is a symptom of Intels real problem, which is that Intel's vertical branding strategy ultimately isnt competitive against the rant-a-fab conglomerates like TSMC which are being driven by the massive sales of ARM processors and accessory chips, and one by one these rent-a-fab's are beating Intel to 10nm. These Ryzen chips are still just on 14nm like Intel and being made by one of these rent-a-fab's. You ain't seen nuthin' yet. What the hell is Intel going to do when all the rent-a-fab's are shipping mostly 10nm product?
If you have Intel stock.. I highly recommend that you sell now before its too late. Double check your retirement accounts.
Almost every journal has an on-line supplement section where authors can include all of the information you just mentioned and much more.
Authors do not do so.
I had no idea before that liberalism was a hive mind and it's impossible for them to oppose any type of regulation.
Can you name a time when the Democrats were pushing for the deregulation of something other than abortion?
I believe SWATing even an empty apartment still puts the officers at risk.
President can't exclude sections of a law just to suit his own ideals.
I agree with you but consider the ramifications.
Obama let federal laws go unenforced and some of those arent going to be enforced under Trump either. For instance Trump has said marijuana legalization is a State issue not a Federal issue and that he will continue to neglect to enforce Federal marijuana laws. Obama didnt enforce them for different reasons.
On a Federal statute level, our laws rank the crime of possession of schedule 1 substances such as marijuana as worse than murder.
The problem is far too many federal laws. At some point there are so many that the executive branch will have to pick and choose even if they dont want to. We are probably well past that point. I'm sitting in an apartment that probably isnt big enough to store a printed copy of our federal laws.
We spent about $1400 on our machines
So is this really all they are saying: they read stack space that is unused to get info that may have been left there from other threads because of the way cache isn't cleared
No. You arent even close to what they are saying.
The attack vector talked about is measuring the time it takes to read memory addresses. Code that has been executed recently will be in the cpu's cache(s) and therefore can be read faster.
Can I ask why someone with such poor comprehension on technical matters in reading slashdot?
Since then, Multiple JAVA architectures were invented. Hardware whose instruction set is binary compatible with JVM's byte code.
I'd rather not. These things are a failure in the market for a reason.
Keeping the locations of things in memory unpredictable so that, for example, if I am trying to exploit some arbitrary code execution flaw I can't count that my code will end up in the place I want or expect it.
Close but not quite right.
Its so that you can't count on OS/Host code being at a specific address. Your own code doesnt need to care what address its loaded at, even if its nefarious (every architecture has relative jump instructions.) The idea is that something like the browsers file i/o routines arent being placed at a predictable address, so your nefarious code cant just branch directly into them.
The main flaw of address randomization is that address information can still leak through the stack if you can first make sure something that calls the routine you want to call has previously been called. For instance if you can save a cookie in your javascript code immediately before your injected code executes, then any routine the browser calls to save a cookie may now have its address right there on the stack for your injected code to grab.
Its better than not doing it, but not entirely effective w.r.t. its purpose.
Ah I see, you think that our only federal office should be decided by poplar vote.
I wonder tho if you were one of the ones complaining about there being "battleground states" on the pretense that so few States shouldnt decide this particular election.
Your thinking would be screwed up because that second premise, that "battleground states" decide the election, is in error. But if we went to a popular vote, then there really would be only a few States deciding the election.
Our founding fathers were brilliant, and after that we screwed up how the Senate is formed, which is why the Senate is now House 2.0.
The Democrats painted themselves into a corner when they became the Corporate Bitch party under Bill Clinton.
Now that they have been caught so plainly betraying the people of their party, they can expect campaign donations from individuals to greatly dwindle. In other words the DNC's only move is to go "all-in" as the Corporate Bitch party. I'm talking about actions here not words. They will continue to pretend to be pro-worker, but what their elected representatives vote for will continue to not be. Past the point of no return.
If the Democrats are to really try to fix their problem, there is a good chance that they will become a 3rd party behind either the Green's or the Libertarians, because they just wont have the money to win elections any more. You can forget about any real grass roots, although they might pretend once in awhile. It will be a losing fight to retain the seats that they have, with no shot at all for them to be taking any new ones, for years.
The remaining established Democrats are not going to go down without a fight. Here "going down" doesnt mean losing to Republicans, it means being voted out by their own party members. They will continue to take every corporate dollar they can because the other options is going away.
In an ideal world the betrayers would just go away and let the party fix itself as quickly as it can... but thats not going to happen. Expect them to get even dirtier towards actual progressives. Even more corrupt towards actual progressives.
I myself am mostly conservative I guess, but not a Republican. I believe in liberty and small government, but most of all I believe that voting for the lesser of two evils is still supporting evil. I voted for Gary Johnson because ever argument against him was speculation (FUD) about what he would do in the future with not a single reasoned argument against him about anything that he ever did in the past. I know for certain that Hillary and Donald are both fucking evil.
As Jonah Goldberg pointed out, the 'Never Trump' movement is dead (at least on the GOP side), and all Republicans are happily working w/ him.
The Democrats are also working with him. For instance Kaine voted to confirm 7 of his cabinet picks.
You think I am "opposite" and think the opposite of fake news is more fake news.
Good to know that you are an idiot.
I like the part where the actual truth tellers post begins at -1 and the idiot that truly doesnt know what he is talking about began at +2 and immediately got upvoted.
The media is doing what its doing because if they didnt they might have to cover the real news.
... 24% of State legislature seats.
... 32% of Governor seats.
... 44% of House seats.
... 46% of Senate seats.
The real news:
The Democrats now only control...
The Democrats have less than 1 out of 4 State legislatures now, and less than 1 out of 3 Governorships.
The Democrats got wiped out nation-wide at every level.
Thats the real news. Your welcome.
and the ridiculous decision of the FBI to start an investigation right then certainly had an effect too.
They said a Nation State tried to influence our election.
The FBI works for a Nation State, and was headed by a Republican.
The IRS and DOJ have both also gotten fingered trying to influence our elections, both headed by Democrats.
Intentionally selective outrage makes you a pretender.