Yeah, but SHOULD you plug that in? We have a few 2200VA rack mounts that can handle a lot of stuff. Some things are an unecessarily high draw (printer) or just produce a lot of interference? feedback? Anything with a motor comes to mind. We had a somewhat decent 750 blown when the cleaning guy plugged his vacuum into it.
Yup, I was thrown off by the order of his statements... I read, "I have a cheap UPS", then "I added a Samsung b/w laser... My brain shutdown after that;)
Sounds to me like the UPS is just bad. The printer is causing a brown out when the fuser warms up. The UPS isn't able to cope. The click is it switching to battery.
1. Plug a digital clock in, or something else with a VERY low draw that you'll notice if it goes off. Don't plug ANYTHING else into it.
2. Turn on printer.
If it resets at this minimum load, you have a bad UPS. If it doesn't, you're probably drawing too much.
3. If it doesn't reset, try adding load. Maybe try 60watt lamps, as you know what they draw and can add one at a time. Test between each addition.
At some point you'll have an idea of what sort of wattage your UPS fails at. If it's something really low, you STILL have a bad UPS. If it's something reasonable your UPS is just too wimpy for your load.
To give you an idea, I have an 750VA APC with a Quad core 2.0GHz processor, 2 drives, 2 high end video cards and a 20" LCD plugged in. And a voip phone. It handles this load without any issue when the power dies.
Just last night, I was in the bed, trying to fall asleep. I just couldn't stop wondering, just how much Ca(HCO3)2(aq) is in a Ca(OH)_2 (aq) + CO_2 (g) -> CaCO_3 (s) + H_2O (l) of CaO + H_2O Ca(OH)_2 + 63.7kJ/mol of CaO.
I'm going to continue the long held tradition of not reading the article and leave that up to someone who has nothing better to do. Is it a factor of 4 or 40? Or, they are different, so it's both?
I mean come on... I've heard of the force, and the dark side of the force. But WTF is "the strong force"? I've heard "The force is strong with this one" but that's simply referring to the state of "the force" not "the strong force."
From what I've ready on this plan, media companies will have to dedicate 'some time' not 'equal time' to the opposing views. Media currently is enjoying a market where they only broadcast what brings in listeners. Currently most of the listeners are coming from conservative radio talk. Pelosi et al don't like that they are getting more than their share, so they want to push 'fairness.' Well if Big media doesn't think being fair, by putting on the opposing view, is going to bring in listeners (read money) there's NO WAY they're going to allow it. If someone with an opposing view had something that the masses wanted to hear, they would have put it on already.
When this was originally done, media was not made of huge mega-corps. They couldn't fight it. Now we have clear chanel, newcorp, etc. With a lot more fighting power.
Regardless of it's likelyhood to pass or not, I'm against it.
Don't they realize that by 2011 we're going to be all out of zinc? They need to be good libs and learn to make this out of a renewable resource, like cow crap... or Corn! or SWITCHGRASS!
The biggest argument the recyclers have is not having the holding area available to keep non-recovered metals...
The argument is crap because once they stop taking stolen metal their need for the holding area will be greatly reduced...
They need to add a lot of paperwork (well, not real paper) to the mix. Right now someone drives up with a truck full of crap, throws it on a scale, and walks out with cash.
They need to have to provide ID, have a proven working phone number, etc. ONLY pay by MAILED CHECK! That'll take care of "Hey, I'm going to go steal a little old lady's AC, cash in on it, and go buy some crack. I can be high within the hour!"
Maybe after you've taken the first 1k pounds from someone then you can relax a little on the restrictions. Granted it's not rocket science to get around all this stuff, but these theives are proven morons.
Happening here in Mobile as well... We also have a number of people stealing airconditioner condensers from businesses that are closed for extended periods... Churches, daycares, schools. It makes it convienient for them that the breaker is usually right there with the unit. Cut power, a few bolts and load it up. They are discussing a law where the recycling companies have to hold anything for 3 days before they issue payment. That should cut way back if it can be enforced.
There was recently a story about where the phone company left a huge spool of fiber cable at a dig site. The kind that you tow behind a truck. The guy hooked it to his truck and was on his way to the recycling center. He was arrested on the way there. Told them he thought it was cable, couldn't understand how they could make wires out of glass.
My 6 year old has the solution for you. He just went to see wall-e... A few autonomous robots, pointed at a land fill, zinc over here, lead over there... problem solved.
I think at some point we will realize that our materials are scare and landfills will start to look good as a mining operation. The trick is to develop efficient ways to harvest.
In every company I've worked at, from ones with thousands of employees, to ones with a dozen, we have learned that programmers make horrible sysadmins. I don't know if it's the training they receive, a personality thing, or what... So please don't do it!
Now if you told me you FAILED at being a good programmer, I'd hire you on the spot as a sysadmin;)
The article seemed to mention 2 stages, first needing persistant terminals, which screen is PERFECT for... The second stage will require wine, which means X, which means VNC...
We have a document management system. In it we had to make the decision for PDF or tiff. We opted for tiff. It had nothing to do with the file size. The deciding factor was because we could find FAST tiff viewers all day and night. It's probably not that PDF as a format is that much more bloated, but the readers, especially acrobat reader take a LOT longer to start up.
We use an activeX control called alternatiff to view them in the browser (and yes, it does multipage) The control loads in the browser VERY fast. Acrobat embedded in a page is painfully slow to load, even if you just do a page re-load.
Really, I think this is great for them. It's about as simple a plan as they could do. It doesn't install crap on the computers, you just have to log in before playing. OH well. No one thinks this is going to keep out the crackers... those people will defeat any scheme. But this will keep someone from burning it on a CD and distributing it to every single person they know...
And even if it doesn't produce one more sale, if it keeps them from supporting stolen goods, it's worth it.
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Yeah, but SHOULD you plug that in? We have a few 2200VA rack mounts that can handle a lot of stuff. Some things are an unecessarily high draw (printer) or just produce a lot of interference? feedback? Anything with a motor comes to mind. We had a somewhat decent 750 blown when the cleaning guy plugged his vacuum into it.
Well, I thought that at first, but a google search for interruptible power supply shows TONS of them for sale!
Like this model:
http://www.geek.com/ultra-products-interruptible-power-supply/
Too weird.
Yes, it's recursive. And I type this knowing I'll never be able to read it again.
Yup, I was thrown off by the order of his statements... I read, "I have a cheap UPS", then "I added a Samsung b/w laser... My brain shutdown after that ;)
Sorry, somehow I missed that part...
Sounds to me like the UPS is just bad. The printer is causing a brown out when the fuser warms up. The UPS isn't able to cope. The click is it switching to battery.
1. Plug a digital clock in, or something else with a VERY low draw that you'll notice if it goes off. Don't plug ANYTHING else into it.
2. Turn on printer.
If it resets at this minimum load, you have a bad UPS. If it doesn't, you're probably drawing too much.
3. If it doesn't reset, try adding load. Maybe try 60watt lamps, as you know what they draw and can add one at a time. Test between each addition.
At some point you'll have an idea of what sort of wattage your UPS fails at. If it's something really low, you STILL have a bad UPS. If it's something reasonable your UPS is just too wimpy for your load.
To give you an idea, I have an 750VA APC with a Quad core 2.0GHz processor, 2 drives, 2 high end video cards and a 20" LCD plugged in. And a voip phone. It handles this load without any issue when the power dies.
I, once again, ask for the ability for us to be able to Mod stories in addition to comments.
Any story that reaches -1 (as this would have nearly instantly) will come off the front page.
Maybe I'm the dumbass here, WTF is an interruptible power supply? And why is it called a UPS, when a UPS is an UNinterruptible power supply?
Rule #1.
NEVER plug a laser printer into a UPS. The power that the fuser draws is WAY too much.
Look at some of the cheap office units, they show little pictures on them, notice the printer icon is on the surge side, NOT battery/surge side.
If the power goes out, you should NOT be trying to print.
http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-10878_11-6085460.html See #6
http://arstechnica.com/guides/other/ups.ars/3
http://www.jetcafe.org/npc/doc/ups-faq.html#0405 see 04.05
Would you put a space heater on a UPS? Shredder? Vacuum? Table Saw? If you put a laser printer on it, you may as well.
Ok, now everyone has something to give to your kid for the sysadmin-in-traning class.
For the rest of us... back to work, nothing here you didn't learn your first year.
For the poster... Shame shame... Turn in your card.
You read my mind!
Just last night, I was in the bed, trying to fall asleep. I just couldn't stop wondering, just how much Ca(HCO3)2(aq) is in a Ca(OH)_2 (aq) + CO_2 (g) -> CaCO_3 (s) + H_2O (l) of CaO + H_2O Ca(OH)_2 + 63.7kJ/mol of CaO.
Now I can stop wondering! Thanks!
I wrote a real quick firefox extension to filter out everything that's a lime joke.
Sorry, your's is the only post left ;)
You seem to know a thing or two about this subject. So, just where to the midichloridians come in?
I'm going to continue the long held tradition of not reading the article and leave that up to someone who has nothing better to do. Is it a factor of 4 or 40? Or, they are different, so it's both?
I mean come on... I've heard of the force, and the dark side of the force. But WTF is "the strong force"? I've heard "The force is strong with this one" but that's simply referring to the state of "the force" not "the strong force."
From what I've ready on this plan, media companies will have to dedicate 'some time' not 'equal time' to the opposing views. Media currently is enjoying a market where they only broadcast what brings in listeners. Currently most of the listeners are coming from conservative radio talk. Pelosi et al don't like that they are getting more than their share, so they want to push 'fairness.' Well if Big media doesn't think being fair, by putting on the opposing view, is going to bring in listeners (read money) there's NO WAY they're going to allow it. If someone with an opposing view had something that the masses wanted to hear, they would have put it on already.
When this was originally done, media was not made of huge mega-corps. They couldn't fight it. Now we have clear chanel, newcorp, etc. With a lot more fighting power.
Regardless of it's likelyhood to pass or not, I'm against it.
As opposed to a good 'con' who would try to stick it in their SUV and burn it!
The statement was sarcasm aimed at a combination of the 'zinc shortgage' story earlier today and the mostly 'lib' agenda of conserving resources.
Don't they realize that by 2011 we're going to be all out of zinc? They need to be good libs and learn to make this out of a renewable resource, like cow crap... or Corn! or SWITCHGRASS!
The biggest argument the recyclers have is not having the holding area available to keep non-recovered metals...
The argument is crap because once they stop taking stolen metal their need for the holding area will be greatly reduced...
They need to add a lot of paperwork (well, not real paper) to the mix. Right now someone drives up with a truck full of crap, throws it on a scale, and walks out with cash.
They need to have to provide ID, have a proven working phone number, etc. ONLY pay by MAILED CHECK! That'll take care of "Hey, I'm going to go steal a little old lady's AC, cash in on it, and go buy some crack. I can be high within the hour!"
Maybe after you've taken the first 1k pounds from someone then you can relax a little on the restrictions. Granted it's not rocket science to get around all this stuff, but these theives are proven morons.
Happening here in Mobile as well... We also have a number of people stealing airconditioner condensers from businesses that are closed for extended periods... Churches, daycares, schools. It makes it convienient for them that the breaker is usually right there with the unit. Cut power, a few bolts and load it up. They are discussing a law where the recycling companies have to hold anything for 3 days before they issue payment. That should cut way back if it can be enforced.
There was recently a story about where the phone company left a huge spool of fiber cable at a dig site. The kind that you tow behind a truck. The guy hooked it to his truck and was on his way to the recycling center. He was arrested on the way there. Told them he thought it was cable, couldn't understand how they could make wires out of glass.
My 6 year old has the solution for you. He just went to see wall-e... A few autonomous robots, pointed at a land fill, zinc over here, lead over there... problem solved.
I think at some point we will realize that our materials are scare and landfills will start to look good as a mining operation. The trick is to develop efficient ways to harvest.
Yeah, that about sums it up :)
BTW, Nice UID
In every company I've worked at, from ones with thousands of employees, to ones with a dozen, we have learned that programmers make horrible sysadmins. I don't know if it's the training they receive, a personality thing, or what... So please don't do it!
Now if you told me you FAILED at being a good programmer, I'd hire you on the spot as a sysadmin ;)
The article seemed to mention 2 stages, first needing persistant terminals, which screen is PERFECT for... The second stage will require wine, which means X, which means VNC...
The guy has answered his own questions.
We have a document management system. In it we had to make the decision for PDF or tiff. We opted for tiff. It had nothing to do with the file size. The deciding factor was because we could find FAST tiff viewers all day and night. It's probably not that PDF as a format is that much more bloated, but the readers, especially acrobat reader take a LOT longer to start up.
We use an activeX control called alternatiff to view them in the browser (and yes, it does multipage) The control loads in the browser VERY fast. Acrobat embedded in a page is painfully slow to load, even if you just do a page re-load.
Really, I think this is great for them. It's about as simple a plan as they could do. It doesn't install crap on the computers, you just have to log in before playing. OH well. No one thinks this is going to keep out the crackers... those people will defeat any scheme. But this will keep someone from burning it on a CD and distributing it to every single person they know...
And even if it doesn't produce one more sale, if it keeps them from supporting stolen goods, it's worth it.