*e-mail message* Windows Live Fire Detector (TM) has detected serious amounts of CO2 in your living room, this can be due to you son smoking pot, or your dog committing suicide or a fire.
Windows Live Fire Detector (TM) is launching the alarm now --> cancel or allow
allow --> 404 Server Not Found
Advertising________________ Real time home insurance try it now!!!11
I don't get the bitch to bloodninja, he was making a clearly deep, insightful and multilevel pun I bet he can use a touchpad you just need to calibrate the thing to 11 == "caffeinated gorilla"
Thats because you need an AD campaign not random people talking about random facts with random corporate image from random media at random targets.
For a successful AD ampaign you need:
Creative Team: A team of people dedicated to the product and the corporation, design guy, copy guy, planning guy and a blue collar guy preventing too much pot smoking and facing the corporate overlords.
Message Personality: a unified tone of communication: imagine what kind of person would be Linux and how he will sell itself (I know, would be weird, tron guy anyone?)
Corporate image so that joe sixpack, Juan Perez and Jou Hoa Ling can distinguish Linux from the rest and remember all the Message just looking at a single piece of advertising.
You need to have a media strategy to select which media will go before and after, what media is looking your target Etc.
The target or the future user: what they want and what they think, their expectations and socio economic variables.
As far as I know theres certain bad rap (justified) about marketing people in the IT community thats why I see it so hard for Linux to have the media relevance it deserves but believe me, the random strategy do more harm than good. What you're are trying to create are memes not messages to sell the idea that it's Linux.
If Linux starts to earn market share theres only one option, to advertise. Before the competitors starts to be worried and just dump shitloads of money in PR waiting for the humble penguin to fall in the trap of the n00b. Someone should take responsibility about it and try too create a team of Advertising people "that happens to like linux" and put that shit together once and for all.
I can reaz your mindz and you askz "why should we pay this potsmokers for advertising when no one pays the developers?" Money? you don't need money for Advertising unless you are going for mass media, Guerrilla marketing anyone? I'd volunteer to it and I know theres plenty of other people that would do it. Once theres an strategy set anyone and their uncle can try to make the Ad there will be filters and debug as in the developer world, is not so different.
It's an idea that have been around my head since I first meet Linux and fucking hurts to be so far from the action : (
Yes I was aware of that even as I never had problems with GF fx5200 or fx440 in the VGA days. The problem is that my 8200 is integrated (GeForce 8200 chipset) and performs rather well, the integrated vga-dvi-hdmi-hybrid SLI-DX10 for under $75 USD just closed the deal for me.
That said I'd go with ATI if I feel that I need it because I'm not much into gaming. And I just don't want to have another fan on my PC. I'm one of those anal about silence.
After all I'm sure is not problem from the 180 drivers but from the Alpha release.
Sure I will try it this time. I tried Ubuntu 9.04 Alpha AMD64 the good thing it's that the new kernel supports all my hardware and it's a lot faster but I have problems with the nVidia 180 drivers on an integrated GeForce 8200. Not even editing the xorg by hand can get the stuff to display properly.
Err, theres only DVD download option via torrent but since you can update to stable release from beta I think it's worth it.
Thanks. Nice to see theres alternatives, but it's sad that you have to wait for hacks and alternatives to appear for you to use your iStuff in real world. In the meanwhile theres a lot of knock off touch screen devices that become available, some of them better and cheaper than the iTouch itself.
If she's just a worker and has been working while the crimes were being committed, can't the factory logs prove that she was not all over Europe while that was happening?
Police: Come with us you filthy criminal, you're being accused for killing X person in France 3 years ago exactly the 26th march 2006 at 7am.
Woman: LOL that was the day of my birthday and I haven't been in France ever. Look this is my photo with my family that day, it was funny because that water pipe broke and was a mess all over the town, here look at the broken pipe and thats John all wet because he's a jerk...
Thank God you don't rely exclusively on CSI type evidence to prove someone is guilty.. oh wait
Yo dawg we hear you like to back up your internets so we put a backup container inside your backup container so you can back up your back up while you back up your back up.
What if the smart machines decide it is smart to kill U.S....to save the rest of the planet?
Well xenophobia always tend to backfire. If you program the chip with human variables what would you have in the end? A very efficient bad guy? Will they develop a religion? Will Cynicism develop?
Remembers me about the paradox in the Evangelion series and the super computer Magi emulating various aspects of the developer brain: the woman, the mother and the scientist each one conflicting with the other to bring up a single answer. Neat series.
Wrong! in countries where MS has a great lobby in the government (like here) they can push campaigns against pirated copies of Windows. Security Enforcement Agencies will take you PC's away if you don't show your licenses. How the SEA's know where to look for pirated copy of Windows? I think it's VERY related to the WGA nagware, if you don't "activate" your pirated copy 8 or so months later you canÂt logon and then comes the headache because you know, if you're a big company, that somehow MS know that and they will come for your PC's or a fine + the cost of licenses.
It's kinda popular knowledge here, but just happens to big companies (more money to milk) Since DELL and IBM are the first choice for really big companies here that incidents now are rather unlikely, but those were the times for brave and untamed WPA crackers.
So yes, does not matter if you're on the third world or if you're a humble corporate windows user, they will come if they know you use pirated copies of Windows and you have money to pay for the fines and licenses.
Obvious flamebait is obvious but maybe, just maybe, it's because geeks are more inclined to do serious stuff on a PC, a secretary just start word, type a paragraph, then starts iExplorer lurks Facebook then "Oh someones is in Live Messenguer" things that do not need a iota of skills or performance. OTOH nerds tend to copy big files around, trans code music or video, want to keep some kind of control over their files etc. Vista sucks all over that because it's a resource hog.
It was eye opening when I was making a PC fix for some girl around 12 years, before I turned the toaster on I asked her if it was running vista (it was very new hardware) with a very lovely WTF-FACE she said, literally: "OMG NO! vista is Lame, webcams don't work, my digital camera does not work, please don't install vista on my PC" very tech savvy girl, I give her some Ubuntu live Cd and she love it, several classmates called me to install the penguin on their toasters;).
When a 12 year old girl on some non developed country know the difference between an OS that works and Vista you know MS screwed it big time. word-of-mouth did the rest
That said, I hope win7 to be at least nice on 3 yo hardware. I fire the beta 1 time a week at least (to see if there any new drivers for my PC)and it piss me off the fact that uses 900+ Mb just to run the OS (I have managed to run XP OEM well below 80Mb on very ancient P3/DuronXP PC's). MS should release it quick so the people outside can mess with it and optimize it for people that do more than a secretary.
nah what kind of experience will give shot a weapon in the real world? nothing! don't you know that they actually are starting to use mouse as weapon of choice to train SWATS all over the world?!
Oh the glorious sound of a full automatic G5.. click click click...
I was about to upgrade my router to a Linux based one, now I'll wait a little.
What we see now is a trend into making every web connected appliance a part of a botnet. Will this be the end of scams like antivirus 2009? since any botnet it's more profitable in theory.
Sigh, It was not a rant against you but the line of tough of "Windows == Stupid User". It's like to claim that everyone should be in Mensa just because yes, sorry it'd does not work that way and a lot of people, even having high IQ, don't give a heck about joining Mensa or similar groups, why? because people have priorities.
And not, even in this far corner of third world I haven't seen the first hospital running on Windows, granted, theres a lot of vintage and DOS stuff around but not Windows-XP-home-running-your-intensive-care-department.
The only thing I would personally point to you is the fact that Linux does not need that kind of fanboys like you, sorry, If I were introduced to Linux in the way of: "hey retard use Linux because if you use Windows you are a megaretard" I'd say.. "shove you fricking Linux stuff who the fuck are you to tell who is smart or dumb just because an OS". Or do you think this epic moment in Internet history would be different if the user were using Slackware? Sorry for posting a 4chan link, it can't be helped.
Really, if you want to bitch about stupid people start thinking in why the educational systems ALL AROUND THE WORLD are so fucked up. Or who benefits with that. Windows is more like a byproduct of that.
wat? then why do you want to kill it if it looks like a so gentle and well mannered virus. Will it install Antivirus 2010 for me? I can't wait for the release of 2010, I've trying to find the beta but I can't find none. I love cornflicker it looks like a good virus and is not afraid of anything.
Migrate to Linux. Or Mac. Or, Solaris. Or Win3.11.
Seriously - everyone knows that 99.999999% of viruses and other infestations are targeted at Windows operating systems. Why stay with Windows?
People with A: an IQ larger than their shoe size B: a budget smaller than the federal government and C: are literate should have migrated long ago.
My shoe size is 136 and I have two Linux boxes but why using Windows should be symptom of low IQ or low budget?
Since Linux is Free as in beer and runs SO happily on older systems you would talk about Linux being targeted cheapskates.
Since there is such a quantity of software and hardware that run only on Windows, the fact that you can't run every program (with the performance) you need inside a virtual machine, and that it's installed on 90% of the worldwide toasters are things you just can make go away even if you're on the 999 society or the world most wealthier man (pun). People on real world need to make stuff on a PC and if theres no option you HAVE to use Windows because, probably, you need the work for money to buy food and stuff, you know, things that happen outside a basement.
You just can't be so naive and claim that Linux is the only option just because theres a kick ass worm about to go mad, fucking off the beige boxes owned by random world citizens that don't give a heck about what they clicks or what they allow to run. Linux is the option because it's free and libre and once stablished it's will boost the development of IT worldwide because it relies on the fact that information should be free and a competitive environment will take over.
People will get owned and they deserves it and the rest of the clean PC's owners deserve it too because we are just sitting in our ass looking at a chronicle of a tragedy Foretold
This is way more than a bunch of "Russians doing it for the lul$" FOX news succeeded in conditioning YOU to atomagically dismiss conspiracy theories just because yes. Most of darkest episodes of human history worked out in the form of conspiracies, back in the time when "theorist" were just stabbed in alleys by furry prostitutes. Nowadays you just get laughed by pointing a conspiracy, still you fear that.
Nah I for one don't feel insulted. But your education is indeed bad.
You can pick a random peasant here and ask about wheres X country and at least he would know the correct continent. We normally don't use calculators, all our daily math is done mentally. We know how valuable is to know English so we care to learn it even outside school. Old people is very inclined to learn to use a PC and they normally succeed. Most of third world countries have state sponsored technical education. Our free educated technicians are more valuable for everyone than private college graduates.
Maybe because education really matters here, is the only thing that can help you to get afloat. Is not a luxury and is not just for the sake of a diploma in the wall.
There are no CAPS in the ISP's of third world countries, (maybe fixed data plans but not CAPS) neither P2P throttling, neither RIA*, neither snooping unless you are doing illegal pixels. Those are problems were the demand it's high I guess. But thanks for caring.
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*e-mail message* Windows Live Fire Detector (TM) has detected serious amounts of CO2 in your living room, this can be due to you son smoking pot, or your dog committing suicide or a fire.
Windows Live Fire Detector (TM) is launching the alarm now --> cancel or allow
allow --> 404 Server Not Found
Advertising________________
Real time home insurance try it now!!!11
I don't get the bitch to bloodninja, he was making a clearly deep, insightful and multilevel pun I bet he can use a touchpad you just need to calibrate the thing to 11 == "caffeinated gorilla"
what? IBM owning Microsoft Sun and RH? IMHO Not that easy. Maybe IBM owning SUN and RH and the new team p0wning Microsoft it's more than likely.
This thinkpad spin up the fans in joy.
Thats because you need an AD campaign not random people talking about random facts with random corporate image from random media at random targets.
For a successful AD ampaign you need:
Creative Team:
A team of people dedicated to the product and the corporation, design guy, copy guy, planning guy and a blue collar guy preventing too much pot smoking and facing the corporate overlords.
Message Personality:
a unified tone of communication: imagine what kind of person would be Linux and how he will sell itself (I know, would be weird, tron guy anyone?)
Corporate image
so that joe sixpack, Juan Perez and Jou Hoa Ling can distinguish Linux from the rest and remember all the Message just looking at a single piece of advertising.
You need to have a media strategy to select which media will go before and after, what media is looking your target Etc.
The target or the future user: what they want and what they think, their expectations and socio economic variables.
As far as I know theres certain bad rap (justified) about marketing people in the IT community thats why I see it so hard for Linux to have the media relevance it deserves but believe me, the random strategy do more harm than good. What you're are trying to create are memes not messages to sell the idea that it's Linux.
If Linux starts to earn market share theres only one option, to advertise. Before the competitors starts to be worried and just dump shitloads of money in PR waiting for the humble penguin to fall in the trap of the n00b. Someone should take responsibility about it and try too create a team of Advertising people "that happens to like linux" and put that shit together once and for all.
I can reaz your mindz and you askz "why should we pay this potsmokers for advertising when no one pays the developers?" Money? you don't need money for Advertising unless you are going for mass media, Guerrilla marketing anyone? I'd volunteer to it and I know theres plenty of other people that would do it. Once theres an strategy set anyone and their uncle can try to make the Ad there will be filters and debug as in the developer world, is not so different.
It's an idea that have been around my head since I first meet Linux and fucking hurts to be so far from the action : (
Sorry to reply to myself but theres a desktop version available for torrent download:
http://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/simple/jaunty/desktop/
The DVD is not seeded properly. :|
Yes I was aware of that even as I never had problems with GF fx5200 or fx440 in the VGA days. The problem is that my 8200 is integrated (GeForce 8200 chipset) and performs rather well, the integrated vga-dvi-hdmi-hybrid SLI-DX10 for under $75 USD just closed the deal for me.
That said I'd go with ATI if I feel that I need it because I'm not much into gaming. And I just don't want to have another fan on my PC. I'm one of those anal about silence.
After all I'm sure is not problem from the 180 drivers but from the Alpha release.
You can change the default display font in your browser options, even in IE5 you can do that.
Sure I will try it this time. I tried Ubuntu 9.04 Alpha AMD64 the good thing it's that the new kernel supports all my hardware and it's a lot faster but I have problems with the nVidia 180 drivers on an integrated GeForce 8200. Not even editing the xorg by hand can get the stuff to display properly.
Err, theres only DVD download option via torrent but since you can update to stable release from beta I think it's worth it.
http://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/jaunty/beta/dvd/
I hope it works fine with unetbootin, installing from USB takes no more than 20 minutes including language updates :)
Thanks. Nice to see theres alternatives, but it's sad that you have to wait for hacks and alternatives to appear for you to use your iStuff in real world. In the meanwhile theres a lot of knock off touch screen devices that become available, some of them better and cheaper than the iTouch itself.
If she's just a worker and has been working while the crimes were being committed, can't the factory logs prove that she was not all over Europe while that was happening?
Police: Come with us you filthy criminal, you're being accused for killing X person in France 3 years ago exactly the 26th march 2006 at 7am.
Woman: LOL that was the day of my birthday and I haven't been in France ever. Look this is my photo with my family that day, it was funny because that water pipe broke and was a mess all over the town, here look at the broken pipe and thats John all wet because he's a jerk...
Thank God you don't rely exclusively on CSI type evidence to prove someone is guilty.. oh wait
When theres no Apple Store in your country? (that's like 90% of the globe). Not trolling I really would like to know. Proxy? gift cards? some hack?
Yo dawg we hear you like to back up your internets so we put a backup container inside your backup container so you can back up your back up while you back up your back up.
What if the smart machines decide it is smart to kill U.S....to save the rest of the planet?
Well xenophobia always tend to backfire. If you program the chip with human variables what would you have in the end? A very efficient bad guy? Will they develop a religion? Will Cynicism develop?
Remembers me about the paradox in the Evangelion series and the super computer Magi emulating various aspects of the developer brain: the woman, the mother and the scientist each one conflicting with the other to bring up a single answer. Neat series.
Wrong! in countries where MS has a great lobby in the government (like here) they can push campaigns against pirated copies of Windows. Security Enforcement Agencies will take you PC's away if you don't show your licenses. How the SEA's know where to look for pirated copy of Windows? I think it's VERY related to the WGA nagware, if you don't "activate" your pirated copy 8 or so months later you canÂt logon and then comes the headache because you know, if you're a big company, that somehow MS know that and they will come for your PC's or a fine + the cost of licenses.
It's kinda popular knowledge here, but just happens to big companies (more money to milk) Since DELL and IBM are the first choice for really big companies here that incidents now are rather unlikely, but those were the times for brave and untamed WPA crackers.
So yes, does not matter if you're on the third world or if you're a humble corporate windows user, they will come if they know you use pirated copies of Windows and you have money to pay for the fines and licenses.
Dogbert? is that you?
Obvious flamebait is obvious but maybe, just maybe, it's because geeks are more inclined to do serious stuff on a PC, a secretary just start word, type a paragraph, then starts iExplorer lurks Facebook then "Oh someones is in Live Messenguer" things that do not need a iota of skills or performance. OTOH nerds tend to copy big files around, trans code music or video, want to keep some kind of control over their files etc. Vista sucks all over that because it's a resource hog.
It was eye opening when I was making a PC fix for some girl around 12 years, before I turned the toaster on I asked her if it was running vista (it was very new hardware) with a very lovely WTF-FACE she said, literally: "OMG NO! vista is Lame, webcams don't work, my digital camera does not work, please don't install vista on my PC" very tech savvy girl, I give her some Ubuntu live Cd and she love it, several classmates called me to install the penguin on their toasters ;).
When a 12 year old girl on some non developed country know the difference between an OS that works and Vista you know MS screwed it big time. word-of-mouth did the rest
That said, I hope win7 to be at least nice on 3 yo hardware. I fire the beta 1 time a week at least (to see if there any new drivers for my PC)and it piss me off the fact that uses 900+ Mb just to run the OS (I have managed to run XP OEM well below 80Mb on very ancient P3/DuronXP PC's). MS should release it quick so the people outside can mess with it and optimize it for people that do more than a secretary.
I'm sure no one has told you this before, not here, not anywhere in the Internet nor in the real world, so take it easy:
the cake, (this is going to be hard) it's a lie.
don't let her go, don't let her down, don't even think about "next"! marry her! OMG!
nah what kind of experience will give shot a weapon in the real world? nothing! don't you know that they actually are starting to use mouse as weapon of choice to train SWATS all over the world?!
Oh the glorious sound of a full automatic G5.. click click click...
so making a hard reset would clean the router?
I was about to upgrade my router to a Linux based one, now I'll wait a little.
What we see now is a trend into making every web connected appliance a part of a botnet. Will this be the end of scams like antivirus 2009? since any botnet it's more profitable in theory.
Sigh, It was not a rant against you but the line of tough of "Windows == Stupid User". It's like to claim that everyone should be in Mensa just because yes, sorry it'd does not work that way and a lot of people, even having high IQ, don't give a heck about joining Mensa or similar groups, why? because people have priorities.
And not, even in this far corner of third world I haven't seen the first hospital running on Windows, granted, theres a lot of vintage and DOS stuff around but not Windows-XP-home-running-your-intensive-care-department.
The only thing I would personally point to you is the fact that Linux does not need that kind of fanboys like you, sorry, If I were introduced to Linux in the way of: "hey retard use Linux because if you use Windows you are a megaretard" I'd say.. "shove you fricking Linux stuff who the fuck are you to tell who is smart or dumb just because an OS". Or do you think this epic moment in Internet history would be different if the user were using Slackware? Sorry for posting a 4chan link, it can't be helped.
Really, if you want to bitch about stupid people start thinking in why the educational systems ALL AROUND THE WORLD are so fucked up. Or who benefits with that. Windows is more like a byproduct of that.
wat? then why do you want to kill it if it looks like a so gentle and well mannered virus. Will it install Antivirus 2010 for me? I can't wait for the release of 2010, I've trying to find the beta but I can't find none. I love cornflicker it looks like a good virus and is not afraid of anything.
I have an alternative solution.
Migrate to Linux. Or Mac. Or, Solaris. Or Win3.11.
Seriously - everyone knows that 99.999999% of viruses and other infestations are targeted at Windows operating systems. Why stay with Windows?
People with A: an IQ larger than their shoe size B: a budget smaller than the federal government and C: are literate should have migrated long ago.
My shoe size is 136 and I have two Linux boxes but why using Windows should be symptom of low IQ or low budget?
Since Linux is Free as in beer and runs SO happily on older systems you would talk about Linux being targeted cheapskates.
Since there is such a quantity of software and hardware that run only on Windows, the fact that you can't run every program (with the performance) you need inside a virtual machine, and that it's installed on 90% of the worldwide toasters are things you just can make go away even if you're on the 999 society or the world most wealthier man (pun). People on real world need to make stuff on a PC and if theres no option you HAVE to use Windows because, probably, you need the work for money to buy food and stuff, you know, things that happen outside a basement.
You just can't be so naive and claim that Linux is the only option just because theres a kick ass worm about to go mad, fucking off the beige boxes owned by random world citizens that don't give a heck about what they clicks or what they allow to run. Linux is the option because it's free and libre and once stablished it's will boost the development of IT worldwide because it relies on the fact that information should be free and a competitive environment will take over.
People will get owned and they deserves it and the rest of the clean PC's owners deserve it too because we are just sitting in our ass looking at a chronicle of a tragedy Foretold
This is way more than a bunch of "Russians doing it for the lul$" FOX news succeeded in conditioning YOU to atomagically dismiss conspiracy theories just because yes. Most of darkest episodes of human history worked out in the form of conspiracies, back in the time when "theorist" were just stabbed in alleys by furry prostitutes. Nowadays you just get laughed by pointing a conspiracy, still you fear that.
Nah I for one don't feel insulted. But your education is indeed bad.
You can pick a random peasant here and ask about wheres X country and at least he would know the correct continent. We normally don't use calculators, all our daily math is done mentally. We know how valuable is to know English so we care to learn it even outside school. Old people is very inclined to learn to use a PC and they normally succeed. Most of third world countries have state sponsored technical education. Our free educated technicians are more valuable for everyone than private college graduates.
Maybe because education really matters here, is the only thing that can help you to get afloat. Is not a luxury and is not just for the sake of a diploma in the wall.
There are no CAPS in the ISP's of third world countries, (maybe fixed data plans but not CAPS) neither P2P throttling, neither RIA*, neither snooping unless you are doing illegal pixels. Those are problems were the demand it's high I guess. But thanks for caring.