If all you look at is the internet and cellphones then yes, changes haven't been drastic (merely progressive). But in terms of genetics? robotics? medical technology? Just because you can't see them doesn't make those changes non-significant.
Try unionization, or maybe educate employees. Government regulation would hurt people like me with no family or social life that wouldn't mind long crunch periods. There is no one-size-fits-all style to life and freedom, despite what the populists tell you, is not designing all life to the lowest-common-denominator.
Never has a user name been more appropriate for a post.
By the way, all this (and the terrible conditions in Rockstar and EA) is nothing compared to programmers' life in China or Korea, where 14-18 hours a day 6 days a week is the normal life of a programmer. Not that it makes it right, of course.
I can't speak to Chinese programmer's working conditions, but in Korea, normal working hours are 8 hours a day 5 days a week with alternating Saturdays. Of course there is overtime, and there are crunch times as well, but 14-18 hours a day 6 days a week is far from normal.
The article you quoted states: >The average worker in Taiwan earns a monthly salary of NT$36,564, a slight increase from the same >period two years ago, a recent survey released by the Council of Labor Affairs (CLA) showed. That's $1142 USD a Month, not annually. That's comparable to the US minimum wage, but in a country you can have lunch for 1-2$ US. Compared with cost of living, it's not really a bad deal.
Oh, and for folks working at Foxconn or Taiwan Semiconductor, their annual bonus this year is expected to be 6 month of salary. Any US tech companies giving out 6 months of bonus this year?
Yeah those Taiwanese have it easy, you should think of moving out there for work since it's so cushy.
One must always remember to look out for dragons. LOOK OUT! THERE BE DRAGONS!
Uggh. North Korea and Iran are not the strongest opposing arguments. The North Korean regime wishes to stay in power. If they launched an attack at anyone they even consider enemies, it would be game over for the regime. They know this. The nuclear test is merely sabre rattling to gain concessions in multi-lateral talks. Iran might be more offensively willing, but they have to deal with their own citizens before anything else happens. There are a lot of educated Iranians that are fed up with their anachronistic government and they are demonstrating this by being brave enough to get into the streets en masse and risk being shot. Assuming they manage to retain power, again, they desire to keep it. The leaders there also know that if they launched nuclear weapons against the US or Israel, they would be turned into that proverbial "glass parking lot" all you chicken hawks are on about.
In our building Facebook is blocked along with many other forums that would help developers get their job done. The abuse comes in when our other building (the one where IT & upper management are located) doesn't block these forums or facebook.
Management needs Facebook & YouTube, but I can't read someone's blog about getting around a specific C# programming problem?
Would you rather have them busy with Facebook and Youtube or busy trying to "manage" the developers? I don't know about your work situation, but I've found TOR is pretty much capable of getting around most filters...
Considering that American recovery (and quite a few other countries according to wikipedia) from the Great Depression began in 1933, I'm gonna say you're the one who's making things up.
So if we go with the higher number of 5,000 sales == 1 lost album sale, according to this UNC study that's about 200,000 lost sales/week (going off their figure of 1 billion downloads per week). That's from 2004, so we can probably assume that downloads have increased since then. And every study has bias, that's just the way it is.
Never mind college students; these are students from one of the better schools in the country (if my understanding is correct). What about reading some Junior College or technical school students' writing? I would hope that a school of the quality Stanford puports itself to be has students with an above average grasp of the English language.
Ah.. so my post is redundant because I didn't hit submit fast enough.
Post was started when no one had posted anything. People should think before they moderate. Go ahead and give this a -1 Offtopic... but something needed to be said.
I'm Canadian and I carry cash almost everywhere. It is my preferred method of completing financial transactions, because of the fees that banks charge. Although I'm 34, so I guess I'm an oldtimer by your metric. And this service is insanely overpriced when you compare it with anywhere that doesn't have government sanctioned monopolies: http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/04_39/b3901068.htm (look at the date on that article...).
Yep. VanCity credit union member here. One of the things that appealed was precisely the lack of fees. Coming from South Korea, the fees that banks charge here are highway robbery.
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If all you look at is the internet and cellphones then yes, changes haven't been drastic (merely progressive).
But in terms of genetics? robotics? medical technology? Just because you can't see them doesn't make those changes non-significant.
Try unionization, or maybe educate employees. Government regulation would hurt people like me with no family or social life that wouldn't mind long crunch periods. There is no one-size-fits-all style to life and freedom, despite what the populists tell you, is not designing all life to the lowest-common-denominator.
Never has a user name been more appropriate for a post.
By the way, all this (and the terrible conditions in Rockstar and EA) is nothing compared to programmers' life in China or Korea, where 14-18 hours a day 6 days a week is the normal life of a programmer. Not that it makes it right, of course.
I can't speak to Chinese programmer's working conditions, but in Korea, normal working hours are 8 hours a day 5 days a week with alternating Saturdays. Of course there is overtime, and there are crunch times as well, but 14-18 hours a day 6 days a week is far from normal.
It's What Americans (are told to) Want.
The article you quoted states:
>The average worker in Taiwan earns a monthly salary of NT$36,564, a slight increase from the same >period two years ago, a recent survey released by the Council of Labor Affairs (CLA) showed.
That's $1142 USD a Month, not annually. That's comparable to the US minimum wage, but in a country you can have lunch for 1-2$ US. Compared with cost of living, it's not really a bad deal.
Oh, and for folks working at Foxconn or Taiwan Semiconductor, their annual bonus this year is expected to be 6 month of salary. Any US tech companies giving out 6 months of bonus this year?
Yeah those Taiwanese have it easy, you should think of moving out there for work since it's so cushy.
One must always remember to look out for dragons. LOOK OUT! THERE BE DRAGONS!
My kingdom for some mod points. Well said!
Uggh. North Korea and Iran are not the strongest opposing arguments. The North Korean regime wishes to stay in power. If they launched an attack at anyone they even consider enemies, it would be game over for the regime. They know this. The nuclear test is merely sabre rattling to gain concessions in multi-lateral talks.
Iran might be more offensively willing, but they have to deal with their own citizens before anything else happens. There are a lot of educated Iranians that are fed up with their anachronistic government and they are demonstrating this by being brave enough to get into the streets en masse and risk being shot. Assuming they manage to retain power, again, they desire to keep it. The leaders there also know that if they launched nuclear weapons against the US or Israel, they would be turned into that proverbial "glass parking lot" all you chicken hawks are on about.
Yes, but the question was "Is it abused".
In our building Facebook is blocked along with many other forums that would help developers get their job done. The abuse comes in when our other building (the one where IT & upper management are located) doesn't block these forums or facebook.
Management needs Facebook & YouTube, but I can't read someone's blog about getting around a specific C# programming problem?
Would you rather have them busy with Facebook and Youtube or busy trying to "manage" the developers? I don't know about your work situation, but I've found TOR is pretty much capable of getting around most filters...
Very good. Now define terrorism.
Oh for mod points. Rare that /. comments actually make me laugh.
How about the chart from Encyclopedia Britannica (cited by wikipedia) which shows that most european countries began recovery in 1932/33?
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/243118/Great-Depression
Considering that American recovery (and quite a few other countries according to wikipedia) from the Great Depression began in 1933, I'm gonna say you're the one who's making things up.
please mod up insightful. The only thing i would change in that post is a substitution of "resources" for "water,food,shelter,air".
So if we go with the higher number of 5,000 sales == 1 lost album sale, according to this UNC study that's about 200,000 lost sales/week (going off their figure of 1 billion downloads per week). That's from 2004, so we can probably assume that downloads have increased since then.
And every study has bias, that's just the way it is.
Never mind college students; these are students from one of the better schools in the country (if my understanding is correct). What about reading some Junior College or technical school students' writing? I would hope that a school of the quality Stanford puports itself to be has students with an above average grasp of the English language.
Ah.. so my post is redundant because I didn't hit submit fast enough.
Post was started when no one had posted anything. People should think before they moderate. Go ahead and give this a -1 Offtopic... but something needed to be said.
U jst need 2 type fstr
In other words..get off of my lawn?
What about when they steal your IP and sell it to countries where American IP law doesn't exist?
But if you try to tell me that the work fry cooks and roofers perform is of equal monetary value to that of CEOs and programmers you're insane.
You're right, it is insane. We can live without CEOs and programmers, but not so much without shelter and food.
"'the operating system that both Microsoft and its consumers have been waiting for.'"
So it's Snow Leopard?
mod up please. Suicides in Japan/South Korea jumped tremendously during the currency crisis that swept through Asia in the late 90s.
Thanks, I needed a good laugh before sleep.
M. Knight Shamalamalamamam couldn't write a better twist.
Why not computer programs?
I'm Canadian and I carry cash almost everywhere. It is my preferred method of completing financial transactions, because of the fees that banks charge. Although I'm 34, so I guess I'm an oldtimer by your metric.
And this service is insanely overpriced when you compare it with anywhere that doesn't have government sanctioned monopolies:
http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/04_39/b3901068.htm (look at the date on that article...).
Yep. VanCity credit union member here. One of the things that appealed was precisely the lack of fees. Coming from South Korea, the fees that banks charge here are highway robbery.