You nailed it here. It needs to be a smartphone / OS that just (mostly) works for people who aren't going to have any idea what "rooting their phones" is and cares about user privacy. Relying on Apple to be our only vendor who cares about privacy is not a good long term strategy (one CEO change away from seeing the enhanced profits of mining users personal data for $). This seems a long shot but when there isn't another shot around a long shot is better than nothing.
But I remember the analysis was that up at cruising altitude (35k ft +) the dose you'd get going from the cosmic radiation penetrating the inside of the cabin in about 4 hours of flying was like getting a dental xray's dose of rads. Now there is a huge industry powerful industry that would be threatened by data like this becoming widely spread and talked about (like the Cigarette companies did for lung cancer or the fossil fuel industry did global warming & the GOP). So there will be astroturfing going on.
That's the real problem that the Mozilla execs won't care about - all these plugins will need to be rewritten...how many of those authors will do that (i.e. how many of these are already dead but function just fine on the existing Thunderbird codebase)
The program (at least WRT plugins) would have been much better off if it had been kicked out from underneath Mozilla senior executive "good decisions".
I do have to say, it could have been worse for the Firefox UI (I definitely prefer the old UI) - but you're right, they took Firefox right out to the Windows Phone / Windows 8 / Windows 10 woodshed and did a job on it.
Doing this with Thunderbird makes little sense - except from the ivory tower view of trying to maintain a single code base (except I doubt this will save them much money) cause most of those plugin authors (a good chunk of which is for encyption) are barely alive and not wanting to recreate their plugins.
Maybe Mozilla management, after its fresh privacy and user respect victory of rolling out a unannounced Mr. Robot / E Corp marketing campaign plugin into Firefox (if you had "..allow studies" checked in privacy...studies doesn't sound like marketing does it - very Facebook doublespeak there) - is ready to move on to the stubborn Thunderbird user base who keep using the e-mail client (myself included).
This lady introduced the bill in the Senate that blew away the Internet privacy protections from our ISP's (so they couldn't monitor, catalog and monetize what you do on the internet) - which was the 1st thing the Trump Admin did after getting into office. I believe her state is the home of some big ISP. I.E. this is something the big ISP's want.
The process was, the FCC (led by former Verizon corporate lawyer Ajit Pai) throws away the Net Neutrality - causing fear and some panic. Marsha and the other lobbied Republican members of congress ride to the rescue with new "Net Neutrality" legislation - which is anything but. And gets us maybe a little ways back towards Net Neutrality, but outlaws states doing their own Net Neutrality etc. (biggest threats to this huge new profit center for Comcast), they declare victory and we're screwed.
This needs to be blocked and let the FCC's recent changes get slapped down in court.
Have to add I had that unchecked (no studies) and did not get this.
Funny users we didn't know by "studies" Mozilla management doublespeak actually meant "marketing campaigns". Disable all 3 things they don't deserve to get them.
Dutch Gun I share your sentiment - this is so disappointing. Actually thought the changeover to Quantum would be bad, but it went well, I would have preferred the old customizable UI and plugins, but could live with it.
Saw Mozilla talking about not getting enough data from users for analysis of the browser, so they were considering having opt out on that (that got barked down quick). But I enabled it on mine just to help - no more.
Then this tone deaf - partner with the content megacorp / E corps to embed a plugin in your Firefox install (not something Mr. Robot would have liked). The fact such a thing happened shows how 4ucked their leadership is - to have approved and run with this.
Disabling all telemetry from now on - all installations. Will use Vivaldi more, was already using it more anyways (very nice customizable browser by the guys who made the original Opera).
Just like the things we saw with the networking folks, another vendor says oops look at this surveillance tool we just happened to have left in our production stack we've been putting on all our machines for years. Time for someone to look at Dell and see if they've made the same "mistake".
Frankly they have alot of friends in Washington (both parties) that they pay alot of money to - to buy off. The administration is loaded with people from the financial sector. I wouldn't be surprised to see them come out the other side of this with not much more than a slap on the wrist and a big gain of customers in their yearly credit monitoring service that folks will pay for after that first free year.
I'd prefer your prediction, but after seeing the consequences for the firms and leadership that caused and participated in the financial crisis I have very little faith in real justice happening at these levels of money and power, particularly in the financial sector.
Probably took the apps down cause the outside audit team noticed the apps were sending and receiving the financial / credit data in plain text to the customers (to go along with their security codes turning out to just be time stamps)./s
Sure is alot of nasty replies in the field here today. You'd almost wonder if someone else (competitor) was mounting a sponsored campaign to tear down the site.
I often ponder whether tthe end goal is to get to a point where they can drop in the Chromium engine so they could cut those development costs and that the decision was made a while ago as market-share was plummeting. Then this would all make sense...otherwise it makes no sense. Vivaldi has a search bar for crying out loud.
Yes, the marketshare bleed of the last decade has shown this over and over again. Make it Chrome and the dedicated user base - who is all that is left - will have no reason to stay. This really bums me out...been here since Netscape.
Vivaldi has a search bar, works very well now and has designers that want to be different from Chrome: https://vivaldi.com/
So true, they won't get new or keep users because of this.
Look at the UI change on the linked page with those hard square tabs (and non metal frontage), it looks really awful and that was on a Mac....just like Vivaldi's (which I like otherwise) engine generated square UI, well except it won't have a separate search bar. (giving me more of a reason to use Vivaldi) That's even worse, loosing their look....could this just be a path to use the Chromium engine for costs?
On its face this isn't much, but taken in context of the last decade it seems like another step into the grave. Seems astounding, but the guys at the top of Mozilla making the design direction / decisions just seem to want to duplicate Chrome. Yeah, good idea...Once you do that, why use Firefox (to the normal uninformed user)? And you keep driving off your user base (like has been happening the last decade?). Duplicating Chrome in structure and UI, is not a good path.
I wish the guys in charge of Vivaldi could take over the jobs of the Mozilla guys making design decisions...then Firefox might have a chance to exist long term,....Firefox marketshare is almost destroyed, yet they keep trucking towards a duplicate of Chrome like its a good idea. I'm expecting marketshare to eventually get down low enough and they announce they're going to use the Chrome (or good lord Safari) engine for cost reasons...that'll be the true end.
The money being thrown at this technology (and jobs) will go crazy after the Spielberg movie Ready Player One comes out early next year....whether totally unjustified, its going to be a match to gasoline. JMHO...
Although not understood well in the U.S., the U.S. news model (prior to Mr. Murdoch coming here) involved trying report the news as objectively and free of a political angle as possible (most U.S. newspapers still do this) - but the editorial section could be as politically slanted as the editors / owners desired. The Wall Street Journal used this model before.
However Mr. Murdoch has a different model and has the political slant as part of the news reporting itself (essentially making the news political propaganda since its not told objectively...MSNBC sort of fills the other side of that although either is like reading a light version of Pravda from back in the day with a political view controling what "news" you see and how its presented). Although pledging to keep the Journal's objectivity in news coverage and keeping the then editor on for 3 years - he left after 4 months.
The Journal still does some good reporting but is a shell of its former self from a impartial news outlet point of view: http://www.independent.co.uk/n...
This is depressing, one of the things the bad guys want is to get rid of the all the freedoms in the west...and they're getting us to do it.
Notice it talks about putting OS level monitoring software to relay everything typed etc. to the "good guys" to get around message encryption - the whole tech world looks like upgraded ankle bracelets to our governments.
The vote numbers the author listed are incorrect. It was 215 to 200. No democrats voted for it (like in the Senate) and a number of Republicans voted against it (just 7 more an it would have been killed). If the Senate vote had come after the House vote, it would have been killed for sure. Still want to know why it wasn't filibustered in the Senate. Here's the roll call for these numbers:
Seems like we are on a path toward no anonymity financial transactions. Cash is slowly being squeezed with some of the 1% of the 1% talking of phasing it out. Lots of talk of getting rid of big bills because of the possibility of negative interest rates, crime (which is real, the world money supply of $100 bills has gone up massively over the last 20 years and its nearly all off-shore and is sourced through banks along the internal edges of the U.S. border). I would argue keeping our ability to have private transaction - however the world seems racing towards a place where anonymity is exterminated. Nice article regarding the trouble you can get into when withdrawing large amounts of cash in the U.S.:
Intel has been going along with what Microsoft has been doing here (Microsoft not building drivers for the last 2 gens of Intel x64 chips). AMD wrote Windows 7 drivers for their new Zen Ryzen architecture that just came out, specifically because Microsoft wouldn't - so AMD's customers could use Windows 7. Typical morally bankrupt choice by Microsoft executives, again...seems built into the corporate culture...and Intel wasn't writing drivers for Kaby Lake (and Skylake was a pain to get Win 7 to work on) so they were going along.
Makes me want to get an AMD system and use one of the non Microsoft update services (http://www.wsusoffline.net/), (http://www.autopatcher.net/forum/) just to give Microsoft the finger - although Linux with a Windows VM (for any Win32 have to have's) is probably the best way to give them the finger.
On the one hand you're correct, it appears the British vacuum up whatever the NSA / FBI don't already of U.S. citizen communications etc. and then pass that information back to each other - that is their five eyes partnership, getting around any legal monitoring your own citizen laws (violating the spirit / intent of such laws though).
However this just looks like the Judges are limited by the way the law was written that they are having to use - which says the whole thing has to happen on U.S. soil - when a good chunk didn't, cause the bad guys are remote. This is an instance of the law needing to be rewritten, slightly, to handle this. The likelihood of that seems fair to none, but that is the result of our corrupted political system and a separate, but related topic. JMHO...
Because prior assurrances from U.S. officials, whether to foreign governments (Germany and spying on their Chancellor) or their own citizens, have turned out to be so trustworthy. Give me a break. E.U. officials should assume when it comes to privacy related commitments like this, they cannot trust anything the U.S. government says.
The new administration is going to go for mass/personal surveillance even more than the prior administration (which was terrible) - count on these guys making a copy of every bit of personal data and messaging on that phone.
I'd get a burner phone with very limited personal data on it and use that for international traveling unless you don't mind the govt getting a copy of everything on your daily driver phone and saving it forever to be possibly used against you when the time comes (and the tyrant is right, we can elect anyone). JMHO....
So well said. At this point other than 2 flavors of performance reduced (by form) Macbook Airs (Macbook and Macbook Pro) and the iMac (a laptop in a monitor), it appears their entire desktop line is dead and just waiting to be retired. Driving a Mac Pro as well (2012), but am coming around to the conclusion that I will probably be forced to replace it with a PC cause Apple has been choosing to abandon the PC market. JMHO....
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You nailed it here. It needs to be a smartphone / OS that just (mostly) works for people who aren't going to have any idea what "rooting their phones" is and cares about user privacy. Relying on Apple to be our only vendor who cares about privacy is not a good long term strategy (one CEO change away from seeing the enhanced profits of mining users personal data for $). This seems a long shot but when there isn't another shot around a long shot is better than nothing.
There's a great site where a college program puts radiation detectors on balloons and takes them on aircraft to map the rates.
http://spaceweather.com/cosmic...
But I remember the analysis was that up at cruising altitude (35k ft +) the dose you'd get going from the cosmic radiation penetrating the inside of the cabin in about 4 hours of flying was like getting a dental xray's dose of rads. Now there is a huge industry powerful industry that would be threatened by data like this becoming widely spread and talked about (like the Cigarette companies did for lung cancer or the fossil fuel industry did global warming & the GOP). So there will be astroturfing going on.
That's the real problem that the Mozilla execs won't care about - all these plugins will need to be rewritten...how many of those authors will do that (i.e. how many of these are already dead but function just fine on the existing Thunderbird codebase)
The program (at least WRT plugins) would have been much better off if it had been kicked out from underneath Mozilla senior executive "good decisions".
I do have to say, it could have been worse for the Firefox UI (I definitely prefer the old UI) - but you're right, they took Firefox right out to the Windows Phone / Windows 8 / Windows 10 woodshed and did a job on it.
Doing this with Thunderbird makes little sense - except from the ivory tower view of trying to maintain a single code base (except I doubt this will save them much money) cause most of those plugin authors (a good chunk of which is for encyption) are barely alive and not wanting to recreate their plugins.
Maybe Mozilla management, after its fresh privacy and user respect victory of rolling out a unannounced Mr. Robot / E Corp marketing campaign plugin into Firefox (if you had "..allow studies" checked in privacy...studies doesn't sound like marketing does it - very Facebook doublespeak there) - is ready to move on to the stubborn Thunderbird user base who keep using the e-mail client (myself included).
This lady introduced the bill in the Senate that blew away the Internet privacy protections from our ISP's (so they couldn't monitor, catalog and monetize what you do on the internet) - which was the 1st thing the Trump Admin did after getting into office. I believe her state is the home of some big ISP. I.E. this is something the big ISP's want.
The process was, the FCC (led by former Verizon corporate lawyer Ajit Pai) throws away the Net Neutrality - causing fear and some panic. Marsha and the other lobbied Republican members of congress ride to the rescue with new "Net Neutrality" legislation - which is anything but. And gets us maybe a little ways back towards Net Neutrality, but outlaws states doing their own Net Neutrality etc. (biggest threats to this huge new profit center for Comcast), they declare victory and we're screwed.
This needs to be blocked and let the FCC's recent changes get slapped down in court.
Have to add I had that unchecked (no studies) and did not get this.
Funny users we didn't know by "studies" Mozilla management doublespeak actually meant "marketing campaigns". Disable all 3 things they don't deserve to get them.
Dutch Gun I share your sentiment - this is so disappointing. Actually thought the changeover to Quantum would be bad, but it went well, I would have preferred the old customizable UI and plugins, but could live with it.
Saw Mozilla talking about not getting enough data from users for analysis of the browser, so they were considering having opt out on that (that got barked down quick). But I enabled it on mine just to help - no more.
Then this tone deaf - partner with the content megacorp / E corps to embed a plugin in your Firefox install (not something Mr. Robot would have liked). The fact such a thing happened shows how 4ucked their leadership is - to have approved and run with this.
Disabling all telemetry from now on - all installations. Will use Vivaldi more, was already using it more anyways (very nice customizable browser by the guys who made the original Opera).
Just like the things we saw with the networking folks, another vendor says oops look at this surveillance tool we just happened to have left in our production stack we've been putting on all our machines for years. Time for someone to look at Dell and see if they've made the same "mistake".
Frankly they have alot of friends in Washington (both parties) that they pay alot of money to - to buy off. The administration is loaded with people from the financial sector. I wouldn't be surprised to see them come out the other side of this with not much more than a slap on the wrist and a big gain of customers in their yearly credit monitoring service that folks will pay for after that first free year.
/s
I'd prefer your prediction, but after seeing the consequences for the firms and leadership that caused and participated in the financial crisis I have very little faith in real justice happening at these levels of money and power, particularly in the financial sector.
Probably took the apps down cause the outside audit team noticed the apps were sending and receiving the financial / credit data in plain text to the customers (to go along with their security codes turning out to just be time stamps).
They're planning on matching Google's plan: https://www.thesslstore.com/bl...
Sure is alot of nasty replies in the field here today. You'd almost wonder if someone else (competitor) was mounting a sponsored campaign to tear down the site.
I often ponder whether tthe end goal is to get to a point where they can drop in the Chromium engine so they could cut those development costs and that the decision was made a while ago as market-share was plummeting. Then this would all make sense...otherwise it makes no sense. Vivaldi has a search bar for crying out loud.
Yes, the marketshare bleed of the last decade has shown this over and over again. Make it Chrome and the dedicated user base - who is all that is left - will have no reason to stay. This really bums me out...been here since Netscape.
Vivaldi has a search bar, works very well now and has designers that want to be different from Chrome: https://vivaldi.com/
If we just want Chrome without the Google we can go here and get that: http://chromium.woolyss.com/
So true, they won't get new or keep users because of this.
Look at the UI change on the linked page with those hard square tabs (and non metal frontage), it looks really awful and that was on a Mac....just like Vivaldi's (which I like otherwise) engine generated square UI, well except it won't have a separate search bar. (giving me more of a reason to use Vivaldi) That's even worse, loosing their look....could this just be a path to use the Chromium engine for costs?
On its face this isn't much, but taken in context of the last decade it seems like another step into the grave. Seems astounding, but the guys at the top of Mozilla making the design direction / decisions just seem to want to duplicate Chrome. Yeah, good idea...Once you do that, why use Firefox (to the normal uninformed user)? And you keep driving off your user base (like has been happening the last decade?). Duplicating Chrome in structure and UI, is not a good path.
I wish the guys in charge of Vivaldi could take over the jobs of the Mozilla guys making design decisions...then Firefox might have a chance to exist long term,....Firefox marketshare is almost destroyed, yet they keep trucking towards a duplicate of Chrome like its a good idea. I'm expecting marketshare to eventually get down low enough and they announce they're going to use the Chrome (or good lord Safari) engine for cost reasons...that'll be the true end.
The money being thrown at this technology (and jobs) will go crazy after the Spielberg movie Ready Player One comes out early next year....whether totally unjustified, its going to be a match to gasoline. JMHO...
Although not understood well in the U.S., the U.S. news model (prior to Mr. Murdoch coming here) involved trying report the news as objectively and free of a political angle as possible (most U.S. newspapers still do this) - but the editorial section could be as politically slanted as the editors / owners desired. The Wall Street Journal used this model before.
However Mr. Murdoch has a different model and has the political slant as part of the news reporting itself (essentially making the news political propaganda since its not told objectively...MSNBC sort of fills the other side of that although either is like reading a light version of Pravda from back in the day with a political view controling what "news" you see and how its presented). Although pledging to keep the Journal's objectivity in news coverage and keeping the then editor on for 3 years - he left after 4 months.
The Journal still does some good reporting but is a shell of its former self from a impartial news outlet point of view: http://www.independent.co.uk/n...
This is depressing, one of the things the bad guys want is to get rid of the all the freedoms in the west...and they're getting us to do it.
Notice it talks about putting OS level monitoring software to relay everything typed etc. to the "good guys" to get around message encryption - the whole tech world looks like upgraded ankle bracelets to our governments.
The vote numbers the author listed are incorrect. It was 215 to 200. No democrats voted for it (like in the Senate) and a number of Republicans voted against it (just 7 more an it would have been killed). If the Senate vote had come after the House vote, it would have been killed for sure. Still want to know why it wasn't filibustered in the Senate. Here's the roll call for these numbers:
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/201...
Seems like we are on a path toward no anonymity financial transactions. Cash is slowly being squeezed with some of the 1% of the 1% talking of phasing it out. Lots of talk of getting rid of big bills because of the possibility of negative interest rates, crime (which is real, the world money supply of $100 bills has gone up massively over the last 20 years and its nearly all off-shore and is sourced through banks along the internal edges of the U.S. border). I would argue keeping our ability to have private transaction - however the world seems racing towards a place where anonymity is exterminated. Nice article regarding the trouble you can get into when withdrawing large amounts of cash in the U.S.:
http://www.cnbc.com/2015/05/29...
Intel has been going along with what Microsoft has been doing here (Microsoft not building drivers for the last 2 gens of Intel x64 chips). AMD wrote Windows 7 drivers for their new Zen Ryzen architecture that just came out, specifically because Microsoft wouldn't - so AMD's customers could use Windows 7. Typical morally bankrupt choice by Microsoft executives, again...seems built into the corporate culture...and Intel wasn't writing drivers for Kaby Lake (and Skylake was a pain to get Win 7 to work on) so they were going along.
Makes me want to get an AMD system and use one of the non Microsoft update services (http://www.wsusoffline.net/), (http://www.autopatcher.net/forum/) just to give Microsoft the finger - although Linux with a Windows VM (for any Win32 have to have's) is probably the best way to give them the finger.
On the one hand you're correct, it appears the British vacuum up whatever the NSA / FBI don't already of U.S. citizen communications etc. and then pass that information back to each other - that is their five eyes partnership, getting around any legal monitoring your own citizen laws (violating the spirit / intent of such laws though).
However this just looks like the Judges are limited by the way the law was written that they are having to use - which says the whole thing has to happen on U.S. soil - when a good chunk didn't, cause the bad guys are remote. This is an instance of the law needing to be rewritten, slightly, to handle this. The likelihood of that seems fair to none, but that is the result of our corrupted political system and a separate, but related topic. JMHO...
Because prior assurrances from U.S. officials, whether to foreign governments (Germany and spying on their Chancellor) or their own citizens, have turned out to be so trustworthy. Give me a break. E.U. officials should assume when it comes to privacy related commitments like this, they cannot trust anything the U.S. government says.
The new administration is going to go for mass/personal surveillance even more than the prior administration (which was terrible) - count on these guys making a copy of every bit of personal data and messaging on that phone.
I'd get a burner phone with very limited personal data on it and use that for international traveling unless you don't mind the govt getting a copy of everything on your daily driver phone and saving it forever to be possibly used against you when the time comes (and the tyrant is right, we can elect anyone). JMHO....
Seems like a good reason to use Vivaldi and or Firefox even if it involves some hassle initially. Serious bummer seeing Alphabet do this.
So well said. At this point other than 2 flavors of performance reduced (by form) Macbook Airs (Macbook and Macbook Pro) and the iMac (a laptop in a monitor), it appears their entire desktop line is dead and just waiting to be retired. Driving a Mac Pro as well (2012), but am coming around to the conclusion that I will probably be forced to replace it with a PC cause Apple has been choosing to abandon the PC market. JMHO....