Read the page. Assuming Qt 3.3 gets it, you'll need Qt 3.3 which will dynamically load accessibility support if it's requested. Otherwise you'll see no difference or penalty at all. Not even glib.
ATK was actually done by Sun in a toolkit independent manner. So there's nothing GNOME about it.
GNOME has also been claiming "full accessibility" for years when that has been every much a lie and probably still is. Why else is JDS not accessible today? Sun even admits to it.
"Yes, we will still support KDE on SuSE. However, we hope to use this opportunity to provide Linux developers and ISVs with a single stable platform for desktop application development."
Translation of market-speak:
Bye, bye KDE... Ximian is going to decimate SUSE now.
Actually it is. Notice that Nat leaves it open to interpretation whether he talked to the indian developers about KDE or not. Very sly, but very noticeable if you go re-read his article.
Apparently Ximian is being forced by Novell to take KDE seriously and retarget their efforts towards it.
Thank you KDE, for beautifying my desktop for 5-6 years now.
Matthias Ettrich, you showed it was possible to do something we thought was not possible or did not have the confidence/ability to do. Even Miguel de Icaza was amazed with the potential KDE was showing and we all know that led to GNOME! You started something great, man.
Why is it when someone posts an article on GNOME, nobody complains about all the applications starting with G, whereas when someone posts an article on KDE *all* they can take about is the K prefix? Why is it KDE articles always get the same "fake" trolls about how it doesn't care about usability, when it was the first project to have UI guidelines and an integrated framework to help enforce those guidelines?
Why is it when someone posts an article on GNOME, people helpfully point out GNOME technologies, many of which KDE has had for a long time and been doing better?
Why aren't technology stuff like KIOSlaves, DCOP, KHTML, Konqueror Plugins, KControl plugins, KParts, XMLGUI, designer, KJSEmbed (wow!), qtpython, qtc, qtjava, qtobjc, KDE internationalization ever appreciated for the bloody brilliant integrated platform technologies that they are?
The KDE project needs to learn from the GNOME project and start promoting itself, otherwise people will remain unaware of its benefits of the KDE Development Platform.
You're kidding right? Putting stuff in robots.txt is the best way to *guarantee* that robots will go specifically for the file/directories you choose to deny.
Don't be naive about robots.txt... expect to have to do some relatively fancy hacking to actually enforce it.
GTK2 is not desktop neutral. It does not integrate with my KDE desktop and as you admit it can't even handle its own configuration without GNOME around. gaim, xmms and gimp are not desktop neutral.
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Your question is unclear.
Sun has no intention of switching to Qt, but if they wanted to for proprietary purposes they'd need to negotiate with Trolltech.
Read the page. Assuming Qt 3.3 gets it, you'll need Qt 3.3 which will dynamically load accessibility support if it's requested. Otherwise you'll see no difference or penalty at all. Not even glib.
ATK was actually done by Sun in a toolkit independent manner. So there's nothing GNOME about it.
GNOME has also been claiming "full accessibility" for years when that has been every much a lie and probably still is. Why else is JDS not accessible today? Sun even admits to it.
Yes very curious. They seem to be up now, fortunately.
accessibility
GTK integration
It's the same technology so gnopernicus should work fine. With GTK+ integration into KDE it gets even sweeter.
It's been backported and will likely be in Qt 3.3. That's what makes KDE 3.2 accessibility ready.
For example, I would like to search and browse the chatter on the SUSE acquisition and KDE vs Ximian situation on #gnome @ irc.gimp.org.
If Google could allow me to do that, that would be fantastic.
As an aside, does anyone know of IRC logs for #gnome?
Translation of market-speak:
Bye, bye KDE... Ximian is going to decimate SUSE now.
We knew that.
Will the SuSE default desktop be changed?
Actually it is. Notice that Nat leaves it open to interpretation whether he talked to the indian developers about KDE or not. Very sly, but very noticeable if you go re-read his article.
Apparently Ximian is being forced by Novell to take KDE seriously and retarget their efforts towards it.
Actually it will be Ximian KDE... Evolution is being ported by a team in India.
Thank you KDE, for beautifying my desktop for 5-6 years now.
Matthias Ettrich, you showed it was possible to do something we thought was not possible or did not have the confidence/ability to do. Even Miguel de Icaza was amazed with the potential KDE was showing and we all know that led to GNOME! You started something great, man.
The problem is that not many people know about Kopete. Guess it doesn't have a big enough distribution yet.
So you can record professional tracks anywhere, huh? You don't even need a "quiet room"? Give me a break.
I'm guessing your work is quite shoddy quality and and/or that you're not any kind of professional at all.
You fooled the moderators good though.
...you didn't read the article? they did send a couple of letters over a period of years.
dumbass.
This is just one buried comment compared to say 20 similar comments in a recent KDE article, about 15 of which modded to +5.
The GNOME trolls seem to be working overtime against KDE I would say.
Why is it when someone posts an article on GNOME, nobody complains about all the applications starting with G, whereas when someone posts an article on KDE *all* they can take about is the K prefix? Why is it KDE articles always get the same "fake" trolls about how it doesn't care about usability, when it was the first project to have UI guidelines and an integrated framework to help enforce those guidelines?
Why is it when someone posts an article on GNOME, people helpfully point out GNOME technologies, many of which KDE has had for a long time and been doing better?
Why aren't technology stuff like KIOSlaves, DCOP, KHTML, Konqueror Plugins, KControl plugins, KParts, XMLGUI, designer, KJSEmbed (wow!), qtpython, qtc, qtjava, qtobjc, KDE internationalization ever appreciated for the bloody brilliant integrated platform technologies that they are?
The KDE project needs to learn from the GNOME project and start promoting itself, otherwise people will remain unaware of its benefits of the KDE Development Platform.
You're kidding right? Putting stuff in robots.txt is the best way to *guarantee* that robots will go specifically for the file/directories you choose to deny.
Don't be naive about robots.txt... expect to have to do some relatively fancy hacking to actually enforce it.
Agreed, Mike is spreading FUD. Could be a hired Ximian goon.
I think C++ needs stuff *removed* more than it needs anything added.
GTK2 is not desktop neutral. It does not integrate with my KDE desktop and as you admit it can't even handle its own configuration without GNOME around. gaim, xmms and gimp are not desktop neutral.
And dont forget XParts. This is how KDE embeds Mozilla and VIM.
KParts is not bound to GPL. What is non-robust about it?