I was unaware that the P4 was "forced" to be single-CPU-only. It's a shame then that the Xeon lags behind the P4 so much.
I'm aware of the overhead involved with SMP, but as I stated; in this case it is negligible- the FP measurements use basically *nothing* on the computer except the CPUs. Looking from an application-level, yeah; there are big variances in speed-gains caused by an additional CPU. But for this benchmark, there is very litte overhead, and it should indeed scale very close to 2x performance.
Look at the benchmark graph at Apple's site for them! (here: http://www.apple.com/powermac/
They compare a Dual-CPU G5 to a Dual-CPU Xeon machine; but strangely only to a SINGLE-CPU P4 machine?
Gee why could that be? Perhaps because those benchmarks are pure-CPU benchmarks, and will scale very close to linearly with extra processors. Double those bottom numbers from the P4 and it handily beats the Dual-G5...
You tool- what exactly are you going to do with a Gig-E desktop machine? Oh that's right- you'll jerk off all over it- Seriously- you're full of shit if you think you need that mush ethernet speed. And really- 64-bit VS 32-bit is what makes the difference in your day?
lots of cars today use auto-tightening seatbelts that are tied to the airbag system they are considered fairly important, as the farther away from the impeding dashboard you are, the better
there are explosive charges (like a shotgun shell) that fire when you crash, they cinch up the seat belt in an INSTANT
NOBODY could be this litigous in such an obviously wrong fashion without some external motivation.
I'm betting there is a backroom deal. A VERY backroom deal... paying lots and lots of $$$ to SCO execs to wreak as much havoc as possible in the Linux arena.
Note how it's now shifted to "IBM using using linux to bypass export controls". That relies upon a pretty heavy presumption; that being that linux can be seen as a "terrorist device" or something.
And hell- SCO execs? You may as well make IBM your target at the same time- they are making the largest push to bring Linux in to the heavy-corporate environment.
I can't blame the SCO execs too much- If I were in their position, I'd probably have done it too- stuck with that messy failure of a company; an opportunity to sacrifice some of your own worth for a large $$$ payday? Then getting to sit back and watch all the chaos you've created? It's an anarchists dream come true.
What if there really are huge chunks of code that were ripped directly from whatever-the-hell-it-actually-is-that-they-own and put in to the linux kernel?
We all know that it would be trivial to just rewrite the portions and it wouldn't be an issue in the future, but what about the past?
Wouldn't you be kinda pissed if someone did that to you? You make money licensing your technology; then someone uses that technology in some free app and just gives it away and it becomes hugely popular; while you get nothing....
My understanding is that an undocumented feature of the game was discovered. There are no "laws" in the game world- So somebody found a "magic axe" or whatever that allowed them to do things outside of what "normal" people could usually do.
Consider the reaction of thirty adults who rent a stadium to play a sport, and then have that stadium game interrupted.
Or consider the effect of disrupting the superbowl.
Or consider the result of walking up to folk playing chess in the park and overturning the board.
In each case, legal action is both warranted and acceptable. Same thing for hacking a game server which is being actively used; even moreso if it's a private server or a fee-to-play server.
Not quite...
The equivalent would be one of the adults in the stadium playing the sport suddenly being able to jump 30ft in the air and run 60mph.
Someone DOSing the servers is more in line with what you describe-
But someone using builtin features of the game?...
I have actually set this up- It really is the only sane way to do things-
But remember- there are fun routing issues to deal with when you do this- The internal VPN endpoint needs to be sent packets (from the internal network)- so you need to run a routing protocol so things know what needs to go to the Internet and what needs to go to the VPN.
Any VPN product can be used over wireless to secure the wireless portion. As another poster said- the only sane way to use wireless is to treat it as an entirely seperate, untrusted public network. It's really just as simple as that.
well- the gentoo "installation" is largely nothing more than a document as well. sure- gentoo provides a base set of software, and the emerge system to keep track of what is on the system- and it's own init scripts- but that's about it.
Another good thing to keep in mind is the simple equation:
2x as loud = 10x the power db is a logarithmic scale
I own the Z560s- they sound good and the sub *pounds*. (not like my 4 18" subs used to, but still:D) For $139 I don't think you could find a better deal.
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Provided are an MPEG-4 AAC audio encoder, an MP3 encoder, two MPEG-4 video encoders, an MP4 file creator and hinter, an IETF standards-based streaming server, and an MPEG-4 player that can both stream and playback from local file.
Our development is focused on the Linux platform, and has been ported to Windows, Solaris, FreeBSD, BSD/OS and Mac OS X, but it should be relatively straight-forward to use on other platforms. Many of the included packages are multi-platform already.
This code is not intended for end users, and does not contain executables. Please read all the legal information to determine if it is suitable for you.
> The time I spent in Linux was far mor rewarding, becuase rather than spending time trying to figure out what little thing was stopping the "magic" of Microsoft from working, I instead spent the time getting little bits to work. One feels like an achievement the other a time sap.
Hahaha it's interesting you put it like that- I feel the same way. I've tried to use linux as a desktop many times over the years, but have been unable to do so until recently. But you have it exactly right- under Win2k, it was always me trying to figure out what the hell could possibly be causing Nero Burning Rom to crash when the ethernet cable was plugged in, but would work fine when it was not (actual problem reproducible in my house right now!!!)- but under Gentoo- it's just small little steps that feel like accomplishments. "Yay I got my wireless working!" "Yay my USB mouse now works after a suspend!" "Yay I got xv support for my Ati with the GATOS drivers!"
Today my system is in a day-to-day usable state- the only niggling problems left are the damn net dependencies of some services (can't start sshd if eth0 can't DHCP) and some random stuff like that.
Before mplayer, video compatibility was the #1 reason I could not use linux as my primary OS. Period.
Now? My pretty little Fujitsu P2040 has been running Gentoo for about 2 months and loving it.
Mplayer plays everything! The *only* thing it needs is an option to automatically repeat playbeack- perhaps I'll add that myself:)
And the idea of using the win32 codecs in tehir binary form is sheer brilliancy.
I will *definitely* be sending some $$$ their way- and I encourage everyone who uses linux to check it out if you haven't already- and you'll likely feel the same way.
Additionally, if the web does ever become this large conglomerated content-syndicate, there will always be some rebel groups who make it their full-time-job to mirror all of that paid content for free; legal or not.
Slashdot Mirror
Hmmm I see you're right :)
I was unaware that the P4 was "forced" to be single-CPU-only.
It's a shame then that the Xeon lags behind the P4 so much.
I'm aware of the overhead involved with SMP, but as I stated; in this case it is negligible- the FP measurements use basically *nothing* on the computer except the CPUs.
Looking from an application-level, yeah; there are big variances in speed-gains caused by an additional CPU. But for this benchmark, there is very litte overhead, and it should indeed scale very close to 2x performance.
Look at the benchmark graph at Apple's site for them! (here: http://www.apple.com/powermac/
They compare a Dual-CPU G5 to a Dual-CPU Xeon machine; but strangely only to a SINGLE-CPU P4 machine?
Gee why could that be?
Perhaps because those benchmarks are pure-CPU benchmarks, and will scale very close to linearly with extra processors.
Double those bottom numbers from the P4 and it handily beats the Dual-G5...
You tool- what exactly are you going to do with a Gig-E desktop machine?
Oh that's right- you'll jerk off all over it-
Seriously- you're full of shit if you think you need that mush ethernet speed.
And really- 64-bit VS 32-bit is what makes the difference in your day?
You my friend live a very very sad existance...
wow that's a really funny joke... idiots ...
lots of cars today use auto-tightening seatbelts that are tied to the airbag system
they are considered fairly important, as the farther away from the impeding dashboard you are, the better
there are explosive charges (like a shotgun shell) that fire when you crash, they cinch up the seat belt in an INSTANT
Come on people- I can't take any of you seriously when you refer to your car's "breaks" :-/
Save this to your hard disk; lest it get disappeared:
l Deal/2003/CAF1033/CAF012003.htm
http://www.sandersresearch.com/html/MappingtheRea
uhm- riiiiight
I don't like the term "evangelism" either-
It's just marketing, everyone does it; of course everyone wants to be on top; yadda yadda yadda
"tactics"- whatever-
Witness Steve Jobs
And the Linux community at large is full of the most "evangelists" I've *ever* seen.
NOBODY could be this litigous in such an obviously wrong fashion without some external motivation.
I'm betting there is a backroom deal.
A VERY backroom deal... paying lots and lots of $$$ to SCO execs to wreak as much havoc as possible in the Linux arena.
Note how it's now shifted to "IBM using using linux to bypass export controls". That relies upon a pretty heavy presumption; that being that linux can be seen as a "terrorist device" or something.
And hell- SCO execs? You may as well make IBM your target at the same time- they are making the largest push to bring Linux in to the heavy-corporate environment.
I can't blame the SCO execs too much-
If I were in their position, I'd probably have done it too- stuck with that messy failure of a company; an opportunity to sacrifice some of your own worth for a large $$$ payday?
Then getting to sit back and watch all the chaos you've created?
It's an anarchists dream come true.
Oh and there's the beach too- err wait...
:)
Oh and the mountains for snow sports in the winter- err hmm yeah.
Face it, the bay area is tha shit
Tout it all you want, but look closely at all those perl modules and c libraries around.
Most of them are under the GPL.
GPL = Can't use in a commercial product.
(err- a commercial product that you don't want someone else to steal)
I *really* think the LGPL should be known as the "Library GPL"
What if there really are huge chunks of code that were ripped directly from whatever-the-hell-it-actually-is-that-they-own and put in to the linux kernel?
...
We all know that it would be trivial to just rewrite the portions and it wouldn't be an issue in the future, but what about the past?
Wouldn't you be kinda pissed if someone did that to you?
You make money licensing your technology; then someone uses that technology in some free app and just gives it away and it becomes hugely popular; while you get nothing.
I dunno- just stuff to think about...
what is that exactly?
where i keep my long-expired condoms and my 12-sided die?
Nobody disrupted any service- the rules were simply different-
Eh?
Who hacked in to what?
My understanding is that an undocumented feature of the game was discovered.
There are no "laws" in the game world-
So somebody found a "magic axe" or whatever that allowed them to do things outside of what "normal" people could usually do.
Consider the reaction of thirty adults who rent a stadium to play a sport, and then have that stadium game interrupted. Or consider the effect of disrupting the superbowl. Or consider the result of walking up to folk playing chess in the park and overturning the board. In each case, legal action is both warranted and acceptable. Same thing for hacking a game server which is being actively used; even moreso if it's a private server or a fee-to-play server. Not quite... The equivalent would be one of the adults in the stadium playing the sport suddenly being able to jump 30ft in the air and run 60mph. Someone DOSing the servers is more in line with what you describe- But someone using builtin features of the game? ...
Right-
I have actually set this up-
It really is the only sane way to do things-
But remember- there are fun routing issues to deal with when you do this-
The internal VPN endpoint needs to be sent packets (from the internal network)- so you need to run a routing protocol so things know what needs to go to the Internet and what needs to go to the VPN.
SSL?
I think not-
You must mean SSH?
Or even better, IPSEC?
Any VPN product can be used over wireless to secure the wireless portion.
As another poster said- the only sane way to use wireless is to treat it as an entirely seperate, untrusted public network.
It's really just as simple as that.
can i get a "who cares?"
---
well- the gentoo "installation" is largely nothing more than a document as well.
sure- gentoo provides a base set of software, and the emerge system to keep track of what is on the system- and it's own init scripts- but that's about it.
But Findlaw is free:
:)
http://lp.findlaw.com/
Search for all relavent codes
Another good thing to keep in mind is the simple equation:
:D)
2x as loud = 10x the power
db is a logarithmic scale
I own the Z560s- they sound good and the sub *pounds*.
(not like my 4 18" subs used to, but still
For $139 I don't think you could find a better deal.
From the site:
MPEG4IP: Open Source, Open Standards, Open Streaming MPEG4IP provides an end-to-end system to explore MPEG-4 multimedia. The package includes many existing open source packages and the "glue" to integrate them together. This is a tool for streaming video and audio that is standards-oriented and free from proprietary protocols and extensions. Provided are an MPEG-4 AAC audio encoder, an MP3 encoder, two MPEG-4 video encoders, an MP4 file creator and hinter, an IETF standards-based streaming server, and an MPEG-4 player that can both stream and playback from local file. Our development is focused on the Linux platform, and has been ported to Windows, Solaris, FreeBSD, BSD/OS and Mac OS X, but it should be relatively straight-forward to use on other platforms. Many of the included packages are multi-platform already. This code is not intended for end users, and does not contain executables. Please read all the legal information to determine if it is suitable for you.
http://mpeg4ip.sourceforge.net/index.php
> The time I spent in Linux was far mor rewarding, becuase rather than spending time trying to figure out what little thing was stopping the "magic" of Microsoft from working, I instead spent the time getting little bits to work. One feels like an achievement the other a time sap.
Hahaha it's interesting you put it like that- I feel the same way.
I've tried to use linux as a desktop many times over the years, but have been unable to do so until recently.
But you have it exactly right- under Win2k, it was always me trying to figure out what the hell could possibly be causing Nero Burning Rom to crash when the ethernet cable was plugged in, but would work fine when it was not (actual problem reproducible in my house right now!!!)- but under Gentoo- it's just small little steps that feel like accomplishments.
"Yay I got my wireless working!"
"Yay my USB mouse now works after a suspend!"
"Yay I got xv support for my Ati with the GATOS drivers!"
Today my system is in a day-to-day usable state- the only niggling problems left are the damn net dependencies of some services (can't start sshd if eth0 can't DHCP) and some random stuff like that.
Before mplayer, video compatibility was the #1 reason I could not use linux as my primary OS.
:)
Period.
Now? My pretty little Fujitsu P2040 has been running Gentoo for about 2 months and loving it.
Mplayer plays everything!
The *only* thing it needs is an option to automatically repeat playbeack- perhaps I'll add that myself
And the idea of using the win32 codecs in tehir binary form is sheer brilliancy.
I will *definitely* be sending some $$$ their way- and I encourage everyone who uses linux to check it out if you haven't already- and you'll likely feel the same way.
Additionally, if the web does ever become this large conglomerated content-syndicate, there will always be some rebel groups who make it their full-time-job to mirror all of that paid content for free; legal or not.