Although it did not come out in court today, the Norwegian parliament has also issued the young teen a formal apology for the treatment he has undergone as a result of publishing the code.
DMCA is a US-law. The focus is on the US-courts... But what is the status of DeCSS in EU? Is it legal? Or not?
I tried Diablo a while back, and the most annoying thing (apart from the erternal servercrashes) was those bastard Gee-I'm-So-Cool-And-Dangerous-That-I-Can-Kill-Newb ie-Players Morons.
So after 2 days I stopped playing, it just wasn't fun..
Wayne: That it gives users choice. My brain: sounds like *BSD/Linux.
Depends on your definition of "user". If you think "user"="hardcore geek", you are absolutely correct.
But out in the real world there is a huge population of "users" who just want a tool, or who doesn't want to be bothered with all these neverending configurations, flaws, etc.. There are even "softer" geeks that doesn't find this overintresting. Granted, it's fun... for a while, after that, it's just tiresome.
So what do we need? Something that is flexible, stable, fast and easy to use.
And this is where Amiga comes in. The Classic AmigaOS was (and is) kinda like at hybrid of *nix and Mac. You can mold it any way you like and still maintain a UI even a first time user can master.
No *BSD/Linux in that respect share little with Amiga. If you're not a hardcore geek you have limited choices in the world of *nix.
BTW, you'll need Mesa, since glut and GLU are not distributed with the DRI and XF4.0.
Another thing that should have been mentioned in the various docs. IIRC the documentations explicitly states that you don't need Mesa... know you say I do (for the part of glut GLU).
And I'm still not clear on whether or not I'm able to run DRI on my setup. G400 are supportet. Kernel 2.2.x is supportet.
But to make DRI work, I'll need a kernel module for my videocard. I know of no mga-kernel-module. And can't find any references to it either.
Firstly I found 4.0 far easier to compile and set up than 3.3.x.
As for desktop-use, works just fine, except I've got at weird problem with Gnome/sawfish. Gnome hangs for about 10 sec when it tries to start sawfish.
Where the problem lies is at DRI *and* documentation. I'm at total loss. What I can gather of documentation are incomplete and vague.
Like yesterday, I tried once again to see if I could make DRI/glx work. At one time I come across a reference to glxinfo, which will tell you alot about your setup....
..glxinfo?.... not in my PATH, not in 4.0 source-tree... no links to it... how on earth am I gonna run this?
Another place in the DRI documentations it tells you to install the correct kernel-module for you videocard... fine.... but are there any kernelmodules other than 3dfx for the 2.2.x? If so, where?
And while we're at kernelmodules. The agpart patch... everytime I need this I keep forgetting where I found it.... and everytime it's a hassle to setup....
Glx-setup. Under 3.3.x glu/glx had a *huge* configfile... in 4.0 all you'll need to do is to load the glx-module. Then where do I put stuff to configure my AGP-port?
... and in the end, I haven't gotten DRI to work... not even sure if glx/mesa/opengl works...
... and a couple of other small problems (like, the dk-maps are stille wrong/incomplete).
Possible I'm doing something wrong... but it would be nice to be able *read* about it somewhere and correct my mistakes...
Anyway, I wouldn't change back to 3.3.x.. 4.0 is just to easy to configure...;)
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.... quite simple really.... unless you use som of those "smart" dists like RedHat, then you'll end up en dependency-hell.... The reason I switched to Slackware...
> Are you saying we should get rid of strychnine > and chlorine then? Even water can kill you in
... so using your fine sence of logic... plutonium and enriched uranium should be made available for everyone?
No? So where do we draw the line?
> the right amount, when are we going to control > that? After all, more kids are killed by > drowning than by guns.
... *died* by drowning... doubt many have been *killed*! See the difference?
> When you're (repeatedly) facing potentially > deadly situations, you do what you > can to minimize the danger.
Firstly, *why* are you repeatedly facing deadly situations? It shouldn't be because *everyone* carries a gun?
Secondly, *how* can carrying a gun minimize the threat?.... wouldn't reaching into your pocket for your gun raise the chance of a deadly situation to about 100%?... question then is, who is going to be the *dead* party?
... in Europe it's just, who is going to end up with empty pockets?
If you *really* feel it necesarry to carry a gun at all time.... the US is truly not a place for me!
... Seems like the US keeps forgetting there is a world outside...
... most european countries have *very* restricted guncontrol. But manage to keep a low crimerate (compared to US) anyway! How is that possible.
Personally I find it *very* scary the "natural" approach to guns many slashdort-readers seems to. Something as nescesary as milk and bread.
Something as deadly shouldn't be freely available. If I were gonna be robbed on the street, I'd prefer to be threadened by a fist instead of a gun up my nose, which could easily go off.
But in a world where everyone has access to a gun, a robber would expect you to cary a gun and then you *will* be faced with a gun up your nose... and the tension between you might make it go off...
Glad I live in Europe.... can walk the streets at night without fear for my life!
There is *nothing* naturally about guns... just horror!
RH was giving me gray hairs and many sleepless nights. All these "easiness" and "simpleness" is OK if your install works right out of the box and you have no intention on updating or change anything.
But how many does that?
If you belong to the 99% who just *has* to "fiddle" around you are in for some serious troubles.
Since I switched to Slackware everything have been a breeze... and I can sleep again!;-)
.... why did I know this would happen? Some people just can't handle critisism....
Bjarne
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>> The dirs/files was created in lowercase, and >>linux handles it just fine. >Please forward a sample file to >ftp.beos.com/pub/devel as we've been unable to >recreate your
How, do you suppose I do that? Zip'ing a directory from linux, and you'll get the files translated the-linux-way. Zip'ing it from BeOS you'll get them translated the BeOS-way. Neither will give you a "hardcopy" of the partion. Of cause I'd think that the linux-intepretation is the correct one, so I could just mail you this, but that wont help you!;)
>problem, are you *sure* that they arnt *really* >uppercase to begin with?
>Dialup and networking work just fine. You just >don't know how to configure it.:-/
Ok, tell me how to change eg. MTU, MRU etc... oh that's right, you can't because it's impossible!
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Well then, I'm not sure this i the right place to flame Slackware!;)
Anyway, filesystemsupport is kernel-issue...;)
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>8.3 filenames may *appear* lowercase, but they >are stored as uppercase, and that's how BeOS >shows 'em.
8.3? We are talking vfat, right?;)
>CRC errors indicate hardware problems, not >software problems.
Since I don't have that problem with other OS's, I'm not sure... But changing MTU, MRU, bsdcomp etc. etc. might help.... oh, that's right, you can't do that with Be....
> If your other OS is not warning you of these, >you should consider upgrading to a *real* OS.
... I'm not sure this is the right forum to flame linux!;)
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*UGH*, I'm dumbass'ed.... I'm beaten... I have no defence against the "dumbass"-card, the ultimate answer to end all answers...
/sarcasm off
The dirs/files was created in lowercase, and linux handles it just fine.
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Boy your answer is hard to read. Some comments:
1) PPP/Dialup with *nix can be a hazzle as well, granted (lost many sleepless night on that account! RH sucks, Slackware rule!;-)). But contrary to BeOS I've got a lot of options to fiddle with, to make it work. All BeOS has to offer, when things doesn't work out of the box? Nada! Well, you might get lucky with some custom init-string, but that's all. AND it happens Be can't cope with your init-string.
2) As for my modem. A ZyXEL omni.net+. So if you think that's a weird rarity...
3) As for smalle bugs. Most annoying is the keymaps. Deadkeys doesn't work for the danish keymap. And using danish characters on IRC, WWW, whereever turns them into plain jibberish.... Sure, it migth be flaws in the apps, I using.
4) VFAT-support sucks. Coppied a directory from a VFAT-partion to a Be-partion. All lowercase names was turned into uppercase, while mixed-case was left untouched. All executables was made unexecutable, kewl... NOT.
5) And let's stop where we started, the network. I get lots of CRC-errors. So the netexperience is a pain in the butt.
Now, take the QNX-floppy demo, THAT's impressive. the dialup-networking worked PERFECTLY. No hassles, no errors, nothing!
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Although it did not come out in court today, the Norwegian parliament has also issued the young teen a formal apology for the treatment he has undergone as a result of publishing the code.
DMCA is a US-law. The focus is on the US-courts... But what is the status of DeCSS in EU?
Is it legal? Or not?
Bjarne
Why should it wait for the W3C to spend years and years coming up with standards that no one wants, when MS can just go ahead and create its own?
If those "standards" are open for anyone to include in any browser, I don't see way not.
Bjarne
I tried Diablo a while back, and the most annoying thing (apart from the erternal servercrashes) was those bastard Gee-I'm-So-Cool-And-Dangerous-That-I-Can-Kill-Newb ie-Players Morons.
So after 2 days I stopped playing, it just wasn't fun..
Has anything been done to address this issue?
Bjarne
Not that I no anything about the subject.
But doesn't the rejection of NetBSD as a "secure" system imply that *no* system is "secure"?
Bjarne
You know, all these press releases would be a whole lot more interesting if something actually happened between them.
Now, if you read the original instead of being a troll, you would actually see that for once something is happening.
Amiga has released the SDK.
Amiga is demonstrating their new OS.
You see, no more vapour.
Bjarne
Wayne: That it gives users choice.
My brain: sounds like *BSD/Linux.
Depends on your definition of "user". If you think "user"="hardcore geek", you are absolutely correct.
But out in the real world there is a huge population of "users" who just want a tool, or who doesn't want to be bothered with all these neverending configurations, flaws, etc.. There are even "softer" geeks that doesn't find this overintresting. Granted, it's fun... for a while, after that, it's just tiresome.
So what do we need? Something that is flexible, stable, fast and easy to use.
And this is where Amiga comes in. The Classic AmigaOS was (and is) kinda like at hybrid of *nix and Mac. You can mold it any way you like and still maintain a UI even a first time user can master.
No *BSD/Linux in that respect share little with Amiga. If you're not a hardcore geek you have limited choices in the world of *nix.
Bjarne
BTW, you'll need Mesa, since glut and GLU are not distributed with the DRI and XF4.0.
Another thing that should have been mentioned in the various docs. IIRC the documentations explicitly states that you don't need Mesa... know you say I do (for the part of glut GLU).
And I'm still not clear on whether or not I'm able to run DRI on my setup. G400 are supportet. Kernel 2.2.x is supportet.
But to make DRI work, I'll need a kernel module for my videocard. I know of no mga-kernel-module. And can't find any references to it either.
And for glx, is it all selfconfigurative in 4.0?
Bjarne
... this is one of the documentations I've been reading... actually it's this text that refers to glxinfo out of the blue...
Bjarne
Firstly I found 4.0 far easier to compile and set up than 3.3.x.
....
.... not in my PATH, not in 4.0 source-tree... no links to it... how on earth am
;)
As for desktop-use, works just fine, except I've got at weird problem with Gnome/sawfish. Gnome hangs for about 10 sec when it tries to start sawfish.
Where the problem lies is at DRI *and* documentation. I'm at total loss. What I can gather of documentation are incomplete and vague.
Like yesterday, I tried once again to see if I could make DRI/glx work. At one time I come across a reference to glxinfo, which will tell you alot about your setup
..glxinfo?
I gonna run this?
Another place in the DRI documentations it tells you to install the correct kernel-module for you videocard... fine.... but are there any kernelmodules other than 3dfx for the 2.2.x? If so, where?
And while we're at kernelmodules. The agpart patch... everytime I need this I keep forgetting where I found it.... and everytime it's a hassle to setup....
Glx-setup. Under 3.3.x glu/glx had a *huge* configfile... in 4.0 all you'll need to do is to load the glx-module. Then where do I put stuff to configure my AGP-port?
... and in the end, I haven't gotten DRI to work... not even sure if glx/mesa/opengl works...
... and a couple of other small problems (like, the dk-maps are stille wrong/incomplete).
Possible I'm doing something wrong... but it would be nice to be able *read* about it somewhere and correct my mistakes...
Anyway, I wouldn't change back to 3.3.x.. 4.0 is just to easy to configure...
Bjarne
.... quite simple really.... unless you use som of those "smart" dists like RedHat, then you'll end up en dependency-hell.... The reason I switched to Slackware...
Bjarne
> Are you saying we should get rid of strychnine
.... wouldn't reaching into your pocket for your gun raise the chance of a deadly situation to about 100%? ... question then is, who is going to be the *dead* party?
> and chlorine then? Even water can kill you in
... so using your fine sence of logic... plutonium and enriched uranium should be made available for everyone?
No? So where do we draw the line?
> the right amount, when are we going to control
> that? After all, more kids are killed by
> drowning than by guns.
... *died* by drowning... doubt many have been *killed*! See the difference?
> When you're (repeatedly) facing potentially
> deadly situations, you do what you
> can to minimize the danger.
Firstly, *why* are you repeatedly facing deadly situations? It shouldn't be because *everyone* carries a gun?
Secondly, *how* can carrying a gun minimize the threat?
... in Europe it's just, who is going to end up with empty pockets?
If you *really* feel it necesarry to carry a gun at all time.... the US is truly not a place for me!
Bjarne
... Seems like the US keeps forgetting there is a world outside...
... most european countries have *very* restricted guncontrol. But manage to keep a low crimerate (compared to US) anyway! How is that possible.
Personally I find it *very* scary the "natural" approach to guns many slashdort-readers seems to. Something as nescesary as milk and bread.
Something as deadly shouldn't be freely available. If I were gonna be robbed on the street, I'd prefer to be threadened by a fist instead of a gun up my nose, which could easily go off.
But in a world where everyone has access to a gun, a robber would expect you to cary a gun and then you *will* be faced with a gun up your nose... and the tension between you might make it go off...
Glad I live in Europe.... can walk the streets at night without fear for my life!
There is *nothing* naturally about guns... just horror!
Bjarne
This globalising of american stupidity and totalitarianism is getting way out of hand!
;-)
It's already "illegal" to surf the web in Denmark.
Which (European) civil right lobby/group do I send my money and support to?
And please hurry... I don't know when I will get sued for making a fart...
Bjarne
RH was giving me gray hairs and many sleepless nights. All these "easiness" and "simpleness" is OK if your install works right out of the box and you have no intention on updating or change anything.
;-)
But how many does that?
If you belong to the 99% who just *has* to "fiddle" around you are in for some serious troubles.
Since I switched to Slackware everything have been a breeze... and I can sleep again!
IMO it's by far the easiest dist.
Bjarne
.... why did I know this would happen? Some people just can't handle critisism....
Bjarne
>> The dirs/files was created in lowercase, and >>linux handles it just fine.
;)
>Please forward a sample file to >ftp.beos.com/pub/devel as we've been unable to >recreate your
How, do you suppose I do that? Zip'ing a directory from linux, and you'll get the files translated the-linux-way. Zip'ing it from BeOS you'll get them translated the BeOS-way. Neither will give you a "hardcopy" of the partion. Of cause I'd think that the linux-intepretation is the correct one, so I could just mail you this, but that wont help you!
>problem, are you *sure* that they arnt *really* >uppercase to begin with?
I'm pretty sure! Just testet it.
Bjarne
>Dialup and networking work just fine. You just >don't know how to configure it. :-/
Ok, tell me how to change eg. MTU, MRU etc... oh that's right, you can't because it's impossible!
Bjarne
Well then, I'm not sure this i the right place to flame Slackware! ;)
;)
Anyway, filesystemsupport is kernel-issue...
Bjarne
>8.3 filenames may *appear* lowercase, but they >are stored as uppercase, and that's how BeOS >shows 'em.
;)
;)
8.3? We are talking vfat, right?
>CRC errors indicate hardware problems, not >software problems.
Since I don't have that problem with other OS's,
I'm not sure... But changing MTU, MRU, bsdcomp etc. etc. might help.... oh, that's right, you can't do that with Be....
> If your other OS is not warning you of these, >you should consider upgrading to a *real* OS.
... I'm not sure this is the right forum to flame linux!
Bjarne
*UGH*, I'm dumbass'ed.... I'm beaten... I have no defence against the "dumbass"-card, the ultimate answer to end all answers...
/sarcasm off
The dirs/files was created in lowercase, and linux handles it just fine.
Bjarne
Boy your answer is hard to read. Some comments:
;-)). But contrary to BeOS I've got a lot of options to fiddle with, to make it work. All BeOS has to offer, when things doesn't work out of the box? Nada! Well, you might get lucky with some custom init-string, but that's all. AND it happens Be can't cope with your init-string.
1) PPP/Dialup with *nix can be a hazzle as well, granted (lost many sleepless night on that account! RH sucks, Slackware rule!
2) As for my modem. A ZyXEL omni.net+. So if you think that's a weird rarity...
3) As for smalle bugs. Most annoying is the keymaps. Deadkeys doesn't work for the danish keymap. And using danish characters on IRC, WWW, whereever turns them into plain jibberish.... Sure, it migth be flaws in the apps, I using.
4) VFAT-support sucks. Coppied a directory from a VFAT-partion to a Be-partion. All lowercase names was turned into uppercase, while mixed-case was left untouched. All executables was made unexecutable, kewl... NOT.
5) And let's stop where we started, the network. I get lots of CRC-errors. So the netexperience is a pain in the butt.
Now, take the QNX-floppy demo, THAT's impressive. the dialup-networking worked PERFECTLY. No hassles, no errors, nothing!
Bjarne
I was out March 28. and been running on my machine since.... And it havn't made me laugh.
:-(
Too many small bugs that shouldn't have been in a mature OS like Be...
And Dialup-networking/modem-support still doesn't work propperly...
Bjarne
But isn't it what it's supposed to be?
/. page.
And it's not all linux an OSS.
Have you set you preferences right?
I get science, online rights, bsd, amiga, Be, Mac
politics, technology news when I open my
And the slashboxes gives me the rest....
Have a look at your preferences!
Bjarne
Just started to dwl the BeOS4Linux from the sunet.se mirror-site, when the download canceled. The BeOS4Linux was removed!
Anywhere I can get my filthy hands on it now?
Bjarne
Why doesn't all those decrypt hackers post
their finding anonymously on usenet?
Before BigCorp discovers what have happened
it is to late to stop it and no one to sue.
Joe average doesn't have that kind of money
it takes to take up the fight with BigCorp,
so why not use the tools that are available?
Bjarne