This is only true assuming a cable infrastructure because of it limiting ring topology. xDSL uses a star network topology, and this restriction does not apply
HFC cable system is a star topology. So the restrictions do not apply to it either. Don't want to start a Cable vs. xDSL war. The same things are possible on both. The issue with all DSL type technologies is always the Unsheilded twisted pair. No shielding limits things because the signel to noise ratio is so much higher. This limits distance and bandwidth because more error correction it needed both in processing time to handle the extra error correction protocol needed as well as the larger number of errors cause by outside interference. Its still a very valid technology.
1000 Mhz is hardly a "typical" system. 850Mhz is more common for recently rebuilt or new systems.
New systems are being built to the 1.2 GHz to 1.5GHz spec now... systems build in the last 3 to 4 years a capable of 1GHz, although the Amps and Taps may need to be updated from 850Mhz in some of the older of those systems.
A headend feeds thousands, not hundreds of homes
Yes Headends do feed thousands but you missed what I said. Each headend has hundreds of pieces of fiber leaving it. Each of those fibers runs to what is called a Node. Each of these nodes feeds 125 homes on average. Each piece of fiber can carry all the same channels or each can carry its own lineup seperate from every other fiber.
Your argument assumes the entire (digital) system is setup for this dedicated PVR-in-the-sky system.
No it does not. I simply countered the point that the infastructure could not handle the number of channels needed to support this service. The plant hanging on the pole now, if it was build in the last 4 years to current CableLab specs, will support these services. The hardware is not there yet to offer these types of service, but the cable plant can certainly handle it.
are you actually proposing that it's cost effective to put up this massive PVR backend in every HFC node?
A PVR is not needed for every node. One massive PVR recording every show on the air would not only support one cable system, but multiple cable systems. The need is a system to coordinate the delivery of the content to the client box and respond to the VCR like commands of the user. Systems like this exist for Video On Demand (VOD). Example Diva VOD, the problem is that Gemstar is now going to buy Diva and companies like it so that it can continue to control this type of technology from both the guide data stand point and the Intellectual Property stand point.
The model that will work in the future is one where the networks sell their programming to the cable operators directly. They make their money either through ad placement within there programs (ie. someone holding a Coke) or buy charging the cable company for the program. The Cable company then has a seperate ad system that they inturn sell time to the ad companies. So that if your watching last months episode of Smallville you are still seeing this months car ads. This system will also allow for narrowcasting of ads so that I don't see diaper and Preperation H ads.
The technology exist to fullfill the Qwest "We have every movie and tv show ever made" claim... but once again we are facing the Media Mogals inablity to change their business model. And as such the ablity to watch what you want whenever you want is far more a political issue than it will ever be a technical issue.
Current infastructure is perfectly capable of handling this. Lets look at the facts:
(These are rough numbers!)
There are roughly 166 6Mhz Channels availible on a typical 1000Mhz system today. Minus 66 channels for the reverse and analog and you have 100 channels left. Digital Multiplexing allows you to get at least 8 channels on each of those 6Mhz channels. So now you have 800 channels to work with. Further divide that into the fact that the average Hybrid Fiber Coax Node feeds only 125 homes now. So from the Headend to 125 homes you have 800 channels. 800/125 = 6.4 channels per home. Do you watch more than 6 different channels at the same time in your house? Now yes its true that the equipment is not there yet to provide the video feed switching at the headend controlled by the digital box. But that is coming. The Infastructure thats being built today will handle the technology of tomorrow.
But it IS the business of government to see that, when a person or organization has played by the government's rules and has something of value, they do not lose that value to someone who has NOT played by the government's rules.
I'm sorry I missed that part of the constitution. Which part was that in? It is the governments job to promote the general welfare, to provide for the safety of its citizens and to ensure their ability to pursue happiness. Its all spelled out in the Preamble if you'd like the cliff notes version. Now it is true that the government has the ability to bail out businesses in trouble, such as the airlines, when that businesses failure would cause undue strain on the country, thus by helping the industry they are promoting the general welfare. But I hardly think that Sony Video Game Division qualifies as an industry that this country can't function without.
Why is it that if I stand on the side of freedom I except terroism with open arms. If I stand on the side of freedom I except that I may die for that freedom, but I also expect that this country, who's freedom I will defend with my very life, will do what is needed to guarentee, to the best of its ability, that my death was well served and that those who live on after my death MIGHT not need to make the same sacrifice. Now what is it that can be done you ask. Simple, you must make the the punishment for such actions so unbearable that no one would consider such an action and its rewards worth the price that will be required. So you must determine what the opposition is not willing to lose. If you show that you are willing to take that, then all those who oppose you will tremble. America is the Land of the Free, AND the Home of the Brave. You can not have one with out the other. To truly live free you must except the inherent dangers that acompany that freedom and be prepared to die for it. The passangers on flight 93 were! They excepted that they were more than likely going to die, but that they would sacrifice themselves to save many more. If you are not willing to make that sacrifice do not call yourself an American!
We can look back for *guidance* but not for diction.
Things change
Wrong! I know that you hate quotes but I can best answer this with two:
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
And
Those who do not study and understand history are bound to repeat it.
You believe that things were so much different because of your Politically Correct revised history books, but a true study of history will show you parallels to every event then and now. You may feel that we have never fought a group with that is willing to die for there beliefs, but this is not true. The Japanese besides having kamakazies were ready to arm women and children with spears to fight off an invasion of their mainland. The only way to save American lives and to force the japanese into unconditional surrender was to inflict a lose on them that they were unable to bear. The destruction of two cities. War is hell! War is nothing but waste! But we did not start this war, we should only be concerned with ending it and making sure that those and others like them are convinced that the price of such actions against the US is far higher than they will pay. This is what history has shown us and to believe that anything else will work is wrong! And should we try to go against what history has taught, we will learn again why it is such. I pray that this is not needed!
Americans say they are ready to alter their lifestyles, and even sacrifice some of their own liberties, for safety considerations.
Well I'm not. I'm willing to except the fact that I may die. Liberty is what this country what founded on and founded for. The US is called the home of the Brave for a reason. The freedom we have comes from sacrifice, not only of the men who have died in the past, but with the fact that our freedoms allow for dangerous elements to be found within our borders. The Courtry was setup to allow this, so that what happened with the british control could not happen again. Americans have the ablity to fight back. The second amendment is not about hunting, its about our ability to put up a fight even againts those that govern us if the need be. The forth amendment was made so that the government could not single out those amoung us that it did not agree with. It must have the burden of proof. I am sorry if the idea that people have the freedom to plan attacks like this scares you. But in taking way that freedom you take away all freedom. And once its gone... dear God help those who are left. Flight 93 is the shining example of what our freedoms allow. These cowards were brainwashed and endoctrinated for years to believe that their deaths would have meaning. It took the free passangers of flight 93, who had no training, no endoctrination, and no common belief except that of freedom less than two minutes to decide to be willing to sacrfice their lives to save many many more. Its a hard reality but if you are not willing to make the supreme sacrfice, then do not call yourself an American!
its surprising to me that people don't see the value in high end server machines (Sun Enterprise, IBM mainframes) but then most of you have never had to poll 35 international long distance switches at and AVERAGE of 7000 transactions a minute. And then be comfortable enough to walk in to the data center infront of the Execs and pull the network connection out of the back of the main server, to prove to the guys they are touring thru the building that we have serious failover protection. When you can do that people suddenly don't care about the price they paid just that the can sleep at night...:-)
Almost right but not quite! Cable modems are the most cost effective way to get high speed access to the home. If you cable company doesn't know how or doesn't want to spend the money to build the network right, thats not the cable modem fault... Cable Modems are based on and Open standard called Docsis. Thats a good thing! But just like any other highly used network it must be designed and segmented to handle the traffic it will carry. If you wanna talk ugly network setup and managment, look at the kludge that Motorola put together to manage their digital cable set tops. Now there is a software setup that shoulda never made it outta the lab.
First off where did you get that number? 25-40???
Maybe if you live in a cable system that hasn't been rebuilt since the mid 80's.
Second if you live in an area covered by one of the top 20 cable systems( which 95%+ of all cable subscribers do) you have, or will have with in the next year or two, capacity in the 500+ channel range. Current rebuilds are building 2GHz systems, with a 6Mhz channel thats 333 analog channels. Add in digital cables average of 12:1 compression and that number jumps to 3996 channels. Now thats all good on paper but let just cut that number in half to deal with real world issues like ingress and amp tilt that still almost 2000 channels. Now I haven't even mentioned that the average fiber node feed 125 homes and so each node now has a 2000 channel capacity to feed 125 homes. So now you have 16 channels just for your house. You plan on watching more than 16 different programs at the sametime??? Most people only have three tv's in their house.
Now the cost issue: current digital set top boxes are selling for around $300 a pop without any PVR ability. A new service like PVR/On Demand Programming(ODP) is a new revenue stream, which means we can justify a higher unit install cost. When cable modems were first launched in they cost $700+ a piece. The cable company I work for gladly ate this cost and has been smiling ever since.
Finally the issue of commercials: Hey I hate watching them as much as the next guy but there are only three options here. First you must understand that it cost big money to make a tv show! Don't even think of makin a pilot for less than a million(if you can even do that anymore) and if the show is a hit the actors will demand ever more money. So season after season your cost will increase. How is that paid for? One word: ADVERTISING!!! But lets say for the sake of argument that we don't want to do advertising. Well then you have the HBO model, where you have no commercials but the subscriber fronts the cost of all production. So lets say an average price of $10 a month per channel you want. The average viewer watches 9 channels. So theres $90 a month... Not so cheap, considering you can get that now for under $40 a month! The other option is the PBS method, where they stop and beg for money every 15 minutes for 15 minutes... NO THANKS!!
The idea here is that the model you have now is here because it gets you the most value for the buck. If you have a better way of doing it great start up a business doing it and good luck. But don't fall for the Marxist/Liberal crap being pushed on you, telling you that all corporations are evil and want nothing but your money. Sure they are out there, but do be so quick to judgement...
Thanks for letting me know that high frequency signals won't travel over fiber, I'm going to go tell the engineers here at the cable company I work for to shutdown the system cause it will never work!
First off hybrid-fiber systems are the future, the problem is that the telephone company only wants the distribution plant and not the real technology to go with it because that would cost money. And why spend money when you get a licence from the government to make it( Read: Guarented 20% return on all investments). Second high frequency signals travel just fine over fiber if you have the correct equipment at the fiber termaination points. The issue here is that the phone companies equipment only is designed to pass a number of multiplexed POTS lines. DSL operates outside of the frequency spectrum of normal POTS lines. So once the signal gets back to the fiber node its never converted to light because the equipment doesn't know/can't see to look for it. Once they reallize that narrowband is a dieing tech, and the cable companies stealing there market share because they can fit 500 channels, internet and phone service all on the same wire, the phone companies will quickly come around and become communication companies much like the cable industry is doing now.
This is exactly why we need more capitalism. What Gracenote and many other mega-corps are pushing for is a socialist agenda of a government enforced single distribution point for each good or service. Capitalism is a FREE MARKET! Meaning that anyone can enter, and that there is no guarantee that someone won't come along with a better product or service and put you out of business.
"Gracenote (formerly CDDB®), a content delivery platform provider specializing in music recognition services, today announced a lawsuit against Roxio, Inc., at present, a wholly-owned subsidiary of Adaptec, Inc."
Sediment on the moons surface from space dust acum's at a known rate. If the universe was all these billions of years old then the estimates were that we should have landed in FIFTY FOUR FEET of the stuff when Apollo 11 touched down. In stead we found between and an eighth and a half inch of dust. About as much as would have acum'ed at the documented rates over a period of 8000 to 10,000 years...
Mike Glenn
"I'm still trying to figure out why Kamikaze pilots wore helmets."
This is really odd! Adaptec owns Gracenote, Roxin is a spin off company of Adaptec. Adaptec shareholders are the ones who will be given stock in Roxin. Is it me or is this a lose/lose situation for Adaptec, or did someone high up Adaptec/Gracenote get left out of the spin off deal and is piss off because of it?
http://www.gracenote.com/retail.html
Send email to their retailers and affiliates telling them that you don't like whats being done.
The best way to change someones mind is to hit them with a bigger stick than they can hit you with!
Come on, you gotta go to the father of network slowdowns, Cliff Stole. Start jingling your keys over the phone punch down to cause short pops and clicks. Thats the best way to keep the cracker online and save our national secrets!
First of since when is system security the cable operators job? You are connecting to the internet you should understand what that involves and how to address the security issues that arise from connecting to a public network. Second don't say cable modems are a bad technology just because your cable operator doesn't have the people, time, or money to design a network that can handle the traffic that their customers genterate. When 10BaseT doesn't work in the building anymore you upgrade to 100, when that bogs down you install switches, when that starts having issues you go Gigabit at the core... but none of that will work if you don't layout the infastructure in a way that works. Cable modem networks are no different. You have to monitor your taffic and address the areas that need it.
Shared bandwidth is a myth. Everyone on the internet shares bandwidth. What do you think the DSLAM at the CO does with all those DSL connections? It multiplexes them on to a single 100BaseT connection most likely. Right there your sharing bandwidth. The problem is not bandwidth sharing it is network design and monitoring.
By posting news associated with Doom, Quake, and others, you are encouraging young readers of this site to take railguns and rocket launchers to school and shoot their classmates. That is a truly awful thing and I don't see how any of you can live with that on your conscience... And that's just sick, so you should all be ashamed.
I have to laugh everytime I read about the problems with guns in school. I shot on the school rifle team for 4 years. Thats right I shot a gun every day for four years in a school building. Yup in a school building, and before you jump on that its called a bullet trap it will safely stop a 30 caliber round. Right in the basement of the school Autitorium. The one thing I always found interesting is how all the other team sports seem to end up having a fight with the other team at some point during the year. But not the rifle teams.
Maybe if John is successful we can launch all the liberals to another planet so that the can run themselves and there socialist ideas in to the ground somewhere else...
Remember Peace through superior firepower does work!
This is very true! Most Cable and Telephone companies when stringing fiber string lots of extra. This is for future need and to sell or lease to other businesses that might need it. Many companys will work deals with other telecommunication trading dark fiber so that each can reach a needed destination.
Interesting fact that DVD has become the standard format for video release. I buy them because I want them to stay around. Why boycott a format that can be backedup. If everyone boycotted the format then production would drop off and the MPAA would be able to market another divx type of media. I personally get a kick outta buying every DVD cause I know how to rip them and that has to piss the MPAA off:)
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This is only true assuming a cable infrastructure because of it limiting ring topology. xDSL uses a star network topology, and this restriction does not apply
HFC cable system is a star topology. So the restrictions do not apply to it either. Don't want to start a Cable vs. xDSL war. The same things are possible on both. The issue with all DSL type technologies is always the Unsheilded twisted pair. No shielding limits things because the signel to noise ratio is so much higher. This limits distance and bandwidth because more error correction it needed both in processing time to handle the extra error correction protocol needed as well as the larger number of errors cause by outside interference. Its still a very valid technology.
1000 Mhz is hardly a "typical" system. 850Mhz is more common for recently rebuilt or new systems.
New systems are being built to the 1.2 GHz to 1.5GHz spec now... systems build in the last 3 to 4 years a capable of 1GHz, although the Amps and Taps may need to be updated from 850Mhz in some of the older of those systems.
A headend feeds thousands, not hundreds of homes
Yes Headends do feed thousands but you missed what I said. Each headend has hundreds of pieces of fiber leaving it. Each of those fibers runs to what is called a Node. Each of these nodes feeds 125 homes on average. Each piece of fiber can carry all the same channels or each can carry its own lineup seperate from every other fiber.
Your argument assumes the entire (digital) system is setup for this dedicated PVR-in-the-sky system.
No it does not. I simply countered the point that the infastructure could not handle the number of channels needed to support this service. The plant hanging on the pole now, if it was build in the last 4 years to current CableLab specs, will support these services. The hardware is not there yet to offer these types of service, but the cable plant can certainly handle it.
are you actually proposing that it's cost effective to put up this massive PVR backend in every HFC node?
A PVR is not needed for every node. One massive PVR recording every show on the air would not only support one cable system, but multiple cable systems. The need is a system to coordinate the delivery of the content to the client box and respond to the VCR like commands of the user. Systems like this exist for Video On Demand (VOD). Example Diva VOD, the problem is that Gemstar is now going to buy Diva and companies like it so that it can continue to control this type of technology from both the guide data stand point and the Intellectual Property stand point.
The model that will work in the future is one where the networks sell their programming to the cable operators directly. They make their money either through ad placement within there programs (ie. someone holding a Coke) or buy charging the cable company for the program. The Cable company then has a seperate ad system that they inturn sell time to the ad companies. So that if your watching last months episode of Smallville you are still seeing this months car ads. This system will also allow for narrowcasting of ads so that I don't see diaper and Preperation H ads.
The technology exist to fullfill the Qwest "We have every movie and tv show ever made" claim... but once again we are facing the Media Mogals inablity to change their business model. And as such the ablity to watch what you want whenever you want is far more a political issue than it will ever be a technical issue.
WRONG!!!!!
Current infastructure is perfectly capable of handling this. Lets look at the facts:
(These are rough numbers!) There are roughly 166 6Mhz Channels availible on a typical 1000Mhz system today. Minus 66 channels for the reverse and analog and you have 100 channels left. Digital Multiplexing allows you to get at least 8 channels on each of those 6Mhz channels. So now you have 800 channels to work with. Further divide that into the fact that the average Hybrid Fiber Coax Node feeds only 125 homes now. So from the Headend to 125 homes you have 800 channels. 800/125 = 6.4 channels per home. Do you watch more than 6 different channels at the same time in your house? Now yes its true that the equipment is not there yet to provide the video feed switching at the headend controlled by the digital box. But that is coming. The Infastructure thats being built today will handle the technology of tomorrow.
But it IS the business of government to see that, when a person or organization has played by the government's rules and has something of value, they do not lose that value to someone who has NOT played by the government's rules.
I'm sorry I missed that part of the constitution. Which part was that in? It is the governments job to promote the general welfare, to provide for the safety of its citizens and to ensure their ability to pursue happiness. Its all spelled out in the Preamble if you'd like the cliff notes version. Now it is true that the government has the ability to bail out businesses in trouble, such as the airlines, when that businesses failure would cause undue strain on the country, thus by helping the industry they are promoting the general welfare. But I hardly think that Sony Video Game Division qualifies as an industry that this country can't function without.
Scientists at MIT and CMU have both proven that there is no metric equivilant for a Buttload!
http://www.pjrc.com/tech/mp3/
Links to site on building your own custom built in hardware player. Check out the links to the other sites too.
Why is it that if I stand on the side of freedom I except terroism with open arms. If I stand on the side of freedom I except that I may die for that freedom, but I also expect that this country, who's freedom I will defend with my very life, will do what is needed to guarentee, to the best of its ability, that my death was well served and that those who live on after my death MIGHT not need to make the same sacrifice. Now what is it that can be done you ask. Simple, you must make the the punishment for such actions so unbearable that no one would consider such an action and its rewards worth the price that will be required. So you must determine what the opposition is not willing to lose. If you show that you are willing to take that, then all those who oppose you will tremble. America is the Land of the Free, AND the Home of the Brave. You can not have one with out the other. To truly live free you must except the inherent dangers that acompany that freedom and be prepared to die for it. The passangers on flight 93 were! They excepted that they were more than likely going to die, but that they would sacrifice themselves to save many more. If you are not willing to make that sacrifice do not call yourself an American!
We can look back for *guidance* but not for diction.
Things change
Wrong! I know that you hate quotes but I can best answer this with two:
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
And
Those who do not study and understand history are bound to repeat it.
You believe that things were so much different because of your Politically Correct revised history books, but a true study of history will show you parallels to every event then and now. You may feel that we have never fought a group with that is willing to die for there beliefs, but this is not true. The Japanese besides having kamakazies were ready to arm women and children with spears to fight off an invasion of their mainland. The only way to save American lives and to force the japanese into unconditional surrender was to inflict a lose on them that they were unable to bear. The destruction of two cities. War is hell! War is nothing but waste! But we did not start this war, we should only be concerned with ending it and making sure that those and others like them are convinced that the price of such actions against the US is far higher than they will pay. This is what history has shown us and to believe that anything else will work is wrong! And should we try to go against what history has taught, we will learn again why it is such. I pray that this is not needed!
Americans say they are ready to alter their lifestyles, and even sacrifice some of their own liberties, for safety considerations.
Well I'm not. I'm willing to except the fact that I may die. Liberty is what this country what founded on and founded for. The US is called the home of the Brave for a reason. The freedom we have comes from sacrifice, not only of the men who have died in the past, but with the fact that our freedoms allow for dangerous elements to be found within our borders. The Courtry was setup to allow this, so that what happened with the british control could not happen again. Americans have the ablity to fight back. The second amendment is not about hunting, its about our ability to put up a fight even againts those that govern us if the need be. The forth amendment was made so that the government could not single out those amoung us that it did not agree with. It must have the burden of proof. I am sorry if the idea that people have the freedom to plan attacks like this scares you. But in taking way that freedom you take away all freedom. And once its gone... dear God help those who are left. Flight 93 is the shining example of what our freedoms allow. These cowards were brainwashed and endoctrinated for years to believe that their deaths would have meaning. It took the free passangers of flight 93, who had no training, no endoctrination, and no common belief except that of freedom less than two minutes to decide to be willing to sacrfice their lives to save many many more. Its a hard reality but if you are not willing to make the supreme sacrfice, then do not call yourself an American!
its surprising to me that people don't see the value in high end server machines (Sun Enterprise, IBM mainframes) but then most of you have never had to poll 35 international long distance switches at and AVERAGE of 7000 transactions a minute. And then be comfortable enough to walk in to the data center infront of the Execs and pull the network connection out of the back of the main server, to prove to the guys they are touring thru the building that we have serious failover protection. When you can do that people suddenly don't care about the price they paid just that the can sleep at night... :-)
Almost right but not quite! Cable modems are the most cost effective way to get high speed access to the home. If you cable company doesn't know how or doesn't want to spend the money to build the network right, thats not the cable modem fault... Cable Modems are based on and Open standard called Docsis. Thats a good thing! But just like any other highly used network it must be designed and segmented to handle the traffic it will carry. If you wanna talk ugly network setup and managment, look at the kludge that Motorola put together to manage their digital cable set tops. Now there is a software setup that shoulda never made it outta the lab.
First off where did you get that number? 25-40??? Maybe if you live in a cable system that hasn't been rebuilt since the mid 80's.
Second if you live in an area covered by one of the top 20 cable systems( which 95%+ of all cable subscribers do) you have, or will have with in the next year or two, capacity in the 500+ channel range. Current rebuilds are building 2GHz systems, with a 6Mhz channel thats 333 analog channels. Add in digital cables average of 12:1 compression and that number jumps to 3996 channels. Now thats all good on paper but let just cut that number in half to deal with real world issues like ingress and amp tilt that still almost 2000 channels. Now I haven't even mentioned that the average fiber node feed 125 homes and so each node now has a 2000 channel capacity to feed 125 homes. So now you have 16 channels just for your house. You plan on watching more than 16 different programs at the sametime??? Most people only have three tv's in their house.
Now the cost issue: current digital set top boxes are selling for around $300 a pop without any PVR ability. A new service like PVR/On Demand Programming(ODP) is a new revenue stream, which means we can justify a higher unit install cost. When cable modems were first launched in they cost $700+ a piece. The cable company I work for gladly ate this cost and has been smiling ever since.
Finally the issue of commercials: Hey I hate watching them as much as the next guy but there are only three options here. First you must understand that it cost big money to make a tv show! Don't even think of makin a pilot for less than a million(if you can even do that anymore) and if the show is a hit the actors will demand ever more money. So season after season your cost will increase. How is that paid for? One word: ADVERTISING!!! But lets say for the sake of argument that we don't want to do advertising. Well then you have the HBO model, where you have no commercials but the subscriber fronts the cost of all production. So lets say an average price of $10 a month per channel you want. The average viewer watches 9 channels. So theres $90 a month... Not so cheap, considering you can get that now for under $40 a month! The other option is the PBS method, where they stop and beg for money every 15 minutes for 15 minutes... NO THANKS!!
The idea here is that the model you have now is here because it gets you the most value for the buck. If you have a better way of doing it great start up a business doing it and good luck. But don't fall for the Marxist/Liberal crap being pushed on you, telling you that all corporations are evil and want nothing but your money. Sure they are out there, but do be so quick to judgement...
Thanks for letting me know that high frequency signals won't travel over fiber, I'm going to go tell the engineers here at the cable company I work for to shutdown the system cause it will never work!
First off hybrid-fiber systems are the future, the problem is that the telephone company only wants the distribution plant and not the real technology to go with it because that would cost money. And why spend money when you get a licence from the government to make it( Read: Guarented 20% return on all investments). Second high frequency signals travel just fine over fiber if you have the correct equipment at the fiber termaination points. The issue here is that the phone companies equipment only is designed to pass a number of multiplexed POTS lines. DSL operates outside of the frequency spectrum of normal POTS lines. So once the signal gets back to the fiber node its never converted to light because the equipment doesn't know/can't see to look for it. Once they reallize that narrowband is a dieing tech, and the cable companies stealing there market share because they can fit 500 channels, internet and phone service all on the same wire, the phone companies will quickly come around and become communication companies much like the cable industry is doing now.
This is exactly why we need more capitalism. What Gracenote and many other mega-corps are pushing for is a socialist agenda of a government enforced single distribution point for each good or service. Capitalism is a FREE MARKET! Meaning that anyone can enter, and that there is no guarantee that someone won't come along with a better product or service and put you out of business.
From the Press release:
"Gracenote (formerly CDDB®), a content delivery platform provider specializing in music recognition services, today announced a lawsuit against Roxio, Inc., at present, a wholly-owned subsidiary of Adaptec, Inc."
Mike Glenn
So you like geographic time clocks, try this one:
Sediment on the moons surface from space dust acum's at a known rate. If the universe was all these billions of years old then the estimates were that we should have landed in FIFTY FOUR FEET of the stuff when Apollo 11 touched down. In stead we found between and an eighth and a half inch of dust. About as much as would have acum'ed at the documented rates over a period of 8000 to 10,000 years...
Mike Glenn
"I'm still trying to figure out why Kamikaze pilots wore helmets."
This is really odd! Adaptec owns Gracenote, Roxin is a spin off company of Adaptec. Adaptec shareholders are the ones who will be given stock in Roxin. Is it me or is this a lose/lose situation for Adaptec, or did someone high up Adaptec/Gracenote get left out of the spin off deal and is piss off because of it?
http://www.gracenote.com/retail.html Send email to their retailers and affiliates telling them that you don't like whats being done. The best way to change someones mind is to hit them with a bigger stick than they can hit you with!
Come on, you gotta go to the father of network slowdowns, Cliff Stole. Start jingling your keys over the phone punch down to cause short pops and clicks. Thats the best way to keep the cracker online and save our national secrets!
First of since when is system security the cable operators job? You are connecting to the internet you should understand what that involves and how to address the security issues that arise from connecting to a public network. Second don't say cable modems are a bad technology just because your cable operator doesn't have the people, time, or money to design a network that can handle the traffic that their customers genterate. When 10BaseT doesn't work in the building anymore you upgrade to 100, when that bogs down you install switches, when that starts having issues you go Gigabit at the core... but none of that will work if you don't layout the infastructure in a way that works. Cable modem networks are no different. You have to monitor your taffic and address the areas that need it.
Shared bandwidth is a myth. Everyone on the internet shares bandwidth. What do you think the DSLAM at the CO does with all those DSL connections? It multiplexes them on to a single 100BaseT connection most likely. Right there your sharing bandwidth. The problem is not bandwidth sharing it is network design and monitoring.
By posting news associated with Doom, Quake, and others, you are encouraging young readers of this site to take railguns and rocket launchers to school and shoot their classmates. That is a truly awful thing and I don't see how any of you can live with that on your conscience... And that's just sick, so you should all be ashamed.
I have to laugh everytime I read about the problems with guns in school. I shot on the school rifle team for 4 years. Thats right I shot a gun every day for four years in a school building. Yup in a school building, and before you jump on that its called a bullet trap it will safely stop a 30 caliber round. Right in the basement of the school Autitorium. The one thing I always found interesting is how all the other team sports seem to end up having a fight with the other team at some point during the year. But not the rifle teams.
Maybe if John is successful we can launch all the liberals to another planet so that the can run themselves and there socialist ideas in to the ground somewhere else...
Remember Peace through superior firepower does work!
It smells like a Divx DVD player....
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This is very true! Most Cable and Telephone companies when stringing fiber string lots of extra. This is for future need and to sell or lease to other businesses that might need it. Many companys will work deals with other telecommunication trading dark fiber so that each can reach a needed destination.
Interesting fact that DVD has become the standard format for video release. I buy them because I want them to stay around. Why boycott a format that can be backedup. If everyone boycotted the format then production would drop off and the MPAA would be able to market another divx type of media. I personally get a kick outta buying every DVD cause I know how to rip them and that has to piss the MPAA off :)