The question "At what point does this start to make a difference in the market place?" is pretty easy to answer for anyone who prefers playing games or using applications to spending time setting up compatibility work-arounds.
Its pretty popular nowadays for people to host little parties for election/debate nights. If you have kids and cant get a sitter (or similar issue with pet), then this might not work - but I am in the same boat as you and this is my only solution.
I agree whole-heartily with this statement, and I am getting irritated that fan-boys are consistently fearing the open-ness and unity that Android will bring to the marketplace (both corporate and consumer).
Sure there will be power struggles and Microsoftish like problems, but advancing the mobile smart phone is the next step in technology and proprietary technology won't get us there.
1) Those fiercely defending the iPhone against G1 may be feeling threatened that their early adoption and extended commitment to a proprietary technology that garnered envy and social standing may be usurped by the newest and greatest technology. Lacking recourse due to being hog-tied to AT&T, muffling the praise and capabilities of the new platform is the last option.
2) Those strongly promoting and speaking only positives about the release of the G1 are likely anti-Apple, or Anti-Apple's policies and have disposition placed against the trends of Apple-adoption. Speaking poorly of the faults of the iPhone while promoting the G1 with the limited amount of experience / exposure as of yet available, this group has high hopes for the adoption of the G1, and attempts to deflect the desperate attempts of the group described above.
3) The scores in between are simply waiting to see which platform will be more widely adopted, or better support their specific needs. Discarding the most biased of views and seeking experienced users who have solved needs similar to their own, this group will wait until the early adopters have filled the pockets of either company, and purchase once more quantitative information is available on both models / services.
Once you've identified your group, you might consider the inherent biases that you may have, and question whether you would have a different opinion if you didn't have your biases and were forced to consider only objective, quantified information.
Once you did this, you would realize two things:
1) The best solution is the one that fills your needs best, for the least cost (monetarily or otherwise).
2) The popularity, market share, and unused features of your phone are irrelevant to your decision so long as your needs continue to be met after your decision has been made.
In consideration of this, it would do everyone a bit of good to step back and consider if an issue is relevant or not to their final purchasing decision if what and all they really need to do is make a phone call. One may also consider whether they are defending their ego or a product that they feel is superior.
Mostly what I see around here are people defending their ego, or id.
There are so many missing controls and unaccounted variables in this study that it makes my brain hurt.
Older people by nature may not engage in as deep level of thought in any activity.
Also, the younger people are probably problem solving by attempting to construct the most accurate search terms that returns the best results for what they want.
This is the same as learning to problem solve in any activity - including those outside of the internet.
This is a solution without a significant problem, and the money (that the government doesn't have) that would be used to support this initiative would be better spent elsewhere (if said money existed).
I think we are witnessing our own selves blowing up. Literally. Due to the nature of the universe, we are looking at an extremely long hall of mirrors, which wraps back upon itself. What we see is either our past, or our future, depending on our frame of reference (which direction you are looking in the hall of mirrors).
In this case, it is (obviously) not our past. The event that was witnessed was 31 light-days away. The same amount of time until the LHC creates the first 5Tev collision...
I want the DRM with Spore Fixed. How does appeasing the angry people who want Spore have anything to do with the Red Alert?
I wasn't planning on buying Red Alert with 3 installs, 5 or an infinite number.
I would have considering buying spore without the phone home, the CD but fixing Red Alert doesnt make me want to buy it since I didn't want it in the first place.
I have intermittent internet access, and when I found out (unpleasantly) about the Creature Creator's "phone-home" DRM, I was miffed about the $10 that I donated to their cause.
I won't be buying Spore for the same reason that I didn't buy Bioshock, or any other game that I know to have such a restrictive DRM system.
It isn't just the plant themselves that unions destroy.
It is all of the plant's suppliers, contractors, and everybody else in the automotive food-chain(or food-web) that union's help destroy.
The result of everybody in the chain having to pay $5 more than the previous person for that work is pretty considerable when it comes to the consumer in the showroom.
So it isn't just Ford or just Chevy...its every business constituent involved.
...then I am impressed. I couldn't stand it for more than half an hour.
I tried it out last night and I was thoroughly underwhelmed. I couldn't get the rooms to avoid exception errors for more than 5-10 minutes at a time.
At one point, I had cascading exception errors and had 66 processes not responding in a matter of seconds (up from my normal 31ish).
Not only that, but I expected, AT MINIMUM, an avatar in an environment that was as easy to use as WoW with no clipping of outer bounds.
The one concept that I did love though, is that I can take my avatar and engage him in an environment with any theme from knights and dragons to beaches to the future.
This is a concept that is poorly implemented, years behind its time for the social networking aspect, and a bit ahead of its time in an mmo aspect.
I am pretty much tired of all the emo people looking for the next corporation to let their bleeding hearts drip all over just because the biggest corporations are the biggest targets.
Basically, this system instituted in the early 90s in NY was a major help in curbing NY's growing crime rate.
Just from 93 to 94 major felonies fell 12.3%. Of course this is not due to Compstat alone, but to a many programs independent, related to, and dependent on Compstat.
I vote yes on sharing on a broader implementation of this system - there are drawbacks I guess - but isnt there with everything?
...it was because they were pissed at Microsoft and hated DirectX. I realize this comment was more or less off the cuff - but to say that THE strategic decision to use one platform over another was because they were 'pissed' at Microsoft is absurd. How do you account for the fact that all of their software is developed first for Microsoft based OS and not for Apple OS?
So they started developing on OpenGL and as a result have HUGE market!!! Secondly, you state that the reason they have a huge market is because they chose OpenGL. I am willing to bet that the majority of their user base had no information as to whether their games were developed using DirectX or OpenGL.
I can in fact prove to you by pointing to the system requirements of their pre-WCIII games that they did in fact require DirectX.
So besides adding fanboy momentum to this movement...what exactly are you saying here that is worth any value?
Let me make you a Fanboy Sandwhich, it is made of Irrational Appreciation wedged between two slices of Untruths.
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Quoted For Truth.
The question "At what point does this start to make a difference in the market place?" is pretty easy to answer for anyone who prefers playing games or using applications to spending time setting up compatibility work-arounds.
Its pretty popular nowadays for people to host little parties for election/debate nights. If you have kids and cant get a sitter (or similar issue with pet), then this might not work - but I am in the same boat as you and this is my only solution.
I agree whole-heartily with this statement, and I am getting irritated that fan-boys are consistently fearing the open-ness and unity that Android will bring to the marketplace (both corporate and consumer).
Sure there will be power struggles and Microsoftish like problems, but advancing the mobile smart phone is the next step in technology and proprietary technology won't get us there.
1) Those fiercely defending the iPhone against G1 may be feeling threatened that their early adoption and extended commitment to a proprietary technology that garnered envy and social standing may be usurped by the newest and greatest technology. Lacking recourse due to being hog-tied to AT&T, muffling the praise and capabilities of the new platform is the last option.
2) Those strongly promoting and speaking only positives about the release of the G1 are likely anti-Apple, or Anti-Apple's policies and have disposition placed against the trends of Apple-adoption. Speaking poorly of the faults of the iPhone while promoting the G1 with the limited amount of experience / exposure as of yet available, this group has high hopes for the adoption of the G1, and attempts to deflect the desperate attempts of the group described above.
3) The scores in between are simply waiting to see which platform will be more widely adopted, or better support their specific needs. Discarding the most biased of views and seeking experienced users who have solved needs similar to their own, this group will wait until the early adopters have filled the pockets of either company, and purchase once more quantitative information is available on both models / services.
Once you've identified your group, you might consider the inherent biases that you may have, and question whether you would have a different opinion if you didn't have your biases and were forced to consider only objective, quantified information.
Once you did this, you would realize two things:
1) The best solution is the one that fills your needs best, for the least cost (monetarily or otherwise).
2) The popularity, market share, and unused features of your phone are irrelevant to your decision so long as your needs continue to be met after your decision has been made.
In consideration of this, it would do everyone a bit of good to step back and consider if an issue is relevant or not to their final purchasing decision if what and all they really need to do is make a phone call. One may also consider whether they are defending their ego or a product that they feel is superior.
Mostly what I see around here are people defending their ego, or id.
There are so many missing controls and unaccounted variables in this study that it makes my brain hurt.
Older people by nature may not engage in as deep level of thought in any activity.
Also, the younger people are probably problem solving by attempting to construct the most accurate search terms that returns the best results for what they want.
This is the same as learning to problem solve in any activity - including those outside of the internet.
I was wondering about this as well.
Why would we bother building a Scanner to detect a Universal Surface Scanner?
Wow. Fascinating write-up.
Thank you for sharing.
= )
This is a solution without a significant problem, and the money (that the government doesn't have) that would be used to support this initiative would be better spent elsewhere (if said money existed).
I think we are witnessing our own selves blowing up. Literally. Due to the nature of the universe, we are looking at an extremely long hall of mirrors, which wraps back upon itself. What we see is either our past, or our future, depending on our frame of reference (which direction you are looking in the hall of mirrors).
In this case, it is (obviously) not our past. The event that was witnessed was 31 light-days away. The same amount of time until the LHC creates the first 5Tev collision...
I want the DRM with Spore Fixed. How does appeasing the angry people who want Spore have anything to do with the Red Alert?
I wasn't planning on buying Red Alert with 3 installs, 5 or an infinite number.
I would have considering buying spore without the phone home, the CD but fixing Red Alert doesnt make me want to buy it since I didn't want it in the first place.
I have intermittent internet access, and when I found out (unpleasantly) about the Creature Creator's "phone-home" DRM, I was miffed about the $10 that I donated to their cause.
I won't be buying Spore for the same reason that I didn't buy Bioshock, or any other game that I know to have such a restrictive DRM system.
if I had mod points, I'd mark your post as informative.
...the after effects of a Pissing Contest is everyone's feet are wet with Piss and reek like hell.
hahah you got me... I suppose that was a short sited argument...
=)
Why would Linux be the only alternative?
Keeping XP on the old machines, reusing licenses, using ubuntu, and a plethora of other options exist.
Your assumption that linux is the only alternative reveals a bias.
Fanboy much?
It isn't just the plant themselves that unions destroy.
It is all of the plant's suppliers, contractors, and everybody else in the automotive food-chain(or food-web) that union's help destroy.
The result of everybody in the chain having to pay $5 more than the previous person for that work is pretty considerable when it comes to the consumer in the showroom.
So it isn't just Ford or just Chevy...its every business constituent involved.
^^
And in my experience my employees spend too much time complaining about their managers on websites.
Get back to work Sheldon, I need a new proposal for our BI solution OS platform and I am running out of clicky-pens.
...then I am impressed. I couldn't stand it for more than half an hour.
I tried it out last night and I was thoroughly underwhelmed. I couldn't get the rooms to avoid exception errors for more than 5-10 minutes at a time.
At one point, I had cascading exception errors and had 66 processes not responding in a matter of seconds (up from my normal 31ish).
Not only that, but I expected, AT MINIMUM, an avatar in an environment that was as easy to use as WoW with no clipping of outer bounds.
The one concept that I did love though, is that I can take my avatar and engage him in an environment with any theme from knights and dragons to beaches to the future.
This is a concept that is poorly implemented, years behind its time for the social networking aspect, and a bit ahead of its time in an mmo aspect.
If no down-ward pressure was put on the price of old technology when the new technology came out, would the price of computing double every two years?
I am going to make that my quote, actually.
Microsoft is showing how scared it is of losing the online search battle. Maybe because it realizes that it is also losing ground rapidly in software.
The nice thing about Rome is that we still have lots of pretty statues...too bad the same can't be said about old code.
We've known this for a long time.
We've even had reminders in mainstream media.
You are not your job.
You are not the content of your wallet.
You are the all-singing all-dancing crap of the world and the things you own - they end up owning you.
-Tyler Durden
-Fight Club 1999
in tyler we trust
I am pretty much tired of all the emo people looking for the next corporation to let their bleeding hearts drip all over just because the biggest corporations are the biggest targets.
I'd like to claim the information as my own research, but its all available on Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compstat
Basically, this system instituted in the early 90s in NY was a major help in curbing NY's growing crime rate.
Just from 93 to 94 major felonies fell 12.3%. Of course this is not due to Compstat alone, but to a many programs independent, related to, and dependent on Compstat.
I vote yes on sharing on a broader implementation of this system - there are drawbacks I guess - but isnt there with everything?
...it was because they were pissed at Microsoft and hated DirectX. I realize this comment was more or less off the cuff - but to say that THE strategic decision to use one platform over another was because they were 'pissed' at Microsoft is absurd. How do you account for the fact that all of their software is developed first for Microsoft based OS and not for Apple OS? So they started developing on OpenGL and as a result have HUGE market!!! Secondly, you state that the reason they have a huge market is because they chose OpenGL. I am willing to bet that the majority of their user base had no information as to whether their games were developed using DirectX or OpenGL.I can in fact prove to you by pointing to the system requirements of their pre-WCIII games that they did in fact require DirectX.
So besides adding fanboy momentum to this movement...what exactly are you saying here that is worth any value?
Let me make you a Fanboy Sandwhich, it is made of Irrational Appreciation wedged between two slices of Untruths.