The key, and what is happening now, is that the tools are being made. Once the tools are made, the rest is a matter of development. Don't be doubtful. Time moves faster than your expectations.
Hey coward, I'm sorry I forgot to put "...first person to report discovery of the holes....". Not that having been so clear would have had ANY significance regarding my point. So please don't pretend you missed my point.
It is hardly as simple as you're stating, but I won't cut you for that because walls of text are time-consuming and most people don't actually read them.
It is important to recognize that there is no distinction between corporations and the actions of the US Federal Government, most state governments, and even county/city governments in many cases. Corporations are, in nearly all cases, the beneficiary to US policy in one form or another -- one only needs to be paying attention to the motivations for bills, those who benefit, and those who lose. By and large, nearly every policy move in the US is a pro-corporate move -- it is because of this, though not always recognized, that many of us paying attention say that the Republicans and Democrats are two sides of the same coin.
85% of politicians are/were lawyers, all judges are/were lawyers--- can we expect the US Gov't to crack down on litigious activity? LOL.
The *MAJORITY* of campaign contributions are coming directly or indirectly from corporate sponsors (either the corps themselves, or those running the show) -- should we expect the US Gov't to *NOT* be biased to helping corporations? LOL.
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Sadly, 300 million americans, many of which, for circumstances beyond their control, work for these corporations, are the second in line for consideration from a political standpoint. We the people do not get them elected.... they noticed that the money got them elected, and the dumb people sent the votes that the money was used to influence them for.
Massive nano-scale manufacturing is much closer to reality than you seem to assume. Look into it. No spoon on hand for me to spoonfeed right now, sorry.
You can have an IQ greater than 140, but not have much or any useful/relevant understanding of IT security.
Furthermore, if it 'didn't require a skilled approach' why was the first person to discover the holes 1) Skilled in this type of security, and 2) Deliberately probing for the holes. Something about those two highly significant circumstances tells me that my point about requiring 'skills' is quite clear... And something about your response to all this implies that because you can pretend you know these things, that such things are blatant and accessible to anyone...
A gaping hole is blatant. These security holes were no and required skilled approach just to be identified. aka, i snuck in through the vents, pkease fix that and pay me.
I very grumpily accept the patching schemes of modern games, deferring to my enjoyment and the high complexity of code in modern big games. Fortunately, small devs make small games, so it behooves them not to be lazier thn their predecessors, whose small games seemed big at th time (nes, snes, genesis) whereby extensive testing was required so the release would be undoubtably stable.
No, smalldev mcgee, youre not impressing me enough to be 1) permitted to release buggy games and 2) complain about the high costs of the patches your games are too small to require (if youre not lazy or overextending).
I know several people with 4g service, including me; none of us would turn it on unless we know we will get service (and use it) or are probing for service so we can know. Its not like 4g users dont already know the gist of the articl already.... youve got to be pretty unaware not to notice your battery drain when its on.
Can i hold a book for you, but not read it? Yes. Can a social network provide its service, but not use your data, leaving access only to your friends and such? Yes.
The point is not about storing your book. Its about the company storing it actually reading it when you dont want them to.
Dont act clueless.... you seriously dont understand how facebook could provide most of its services, but without logging and utilizing? How do you think cloud services work?
Most facebook users have no idea how deep the analysis of their data/relationships goes or the true privacy implications related. Don't assume too much about average joe.... average joe and janette are strapped with bills, jobs, kids, housework, overtime, stress, and american media psychosis... if understanding privacy and internet data mining isn't part of their occupation, there's a slim chance they know about it.
.... for a social networking platform that does not track/store/analyze/use my personal data or relationship information.
Any takers?
Something tells me that the 'free' fee for facebook has everything to do with its popularity. Some of us would pay, but many people have culturally come to understand that so long as something is 'free', anything can be given up for it.
So.... in your estimation.... oligopolies in blatant collusion, enforcing self-interest policy in washington from telecoms, to defense industry, to automotive, to resources, to energy distribution, to agriculture/food supply..... whose control over our day to day lives leaves us with no alternatives, funds them through subsidy direct from our pockets, and has established majority control over media and political funding......... you think this isn't real.
I could spend hours and hours providing you examples of how each and every point I just mentioned is real, but you're not worth it. You've already assumed you know enough and closed your reasoning down.
So, as I said before, I won't waste my time trying to convince the useful idiots that they should know something when the useful idiot contends they don't need to; you're in that group.
I think you're an idiot with no sense of informed perspective. You have perspective; but you've yet to have the information required to know wtf you're looking at.
Its the naivety and fervor of buffoons like you that maintain the disgusting and corrupt existence we have in the US. You don't see Mussolini, therefore there is nothing awry... I'm sure examples will fall on deaf ears, blind eyes, poor critical thinking, and and limited scope of intellect....
You *are* the zombie I talked about. I bet you don't like being called that, deny its truth, and will never understand why.
You're a waste of my time because of the same corporate fascism that you cannot realize; you *are* their product and example of how a 'peaceful' yet horrid takeover has been achieved.
All you demonstrated is that you dont have an informed perspective of our current state. We are, and have been, under corporate fascism for decades.
But if you have limited knowledge and simple thinking, today's problems arent like Mussolini, so its not so bad..... WRONG. Having mostly useless zombies for fellow citizens is just as bad, if not worse, for they are dumb enough to fight against their own best interests; not just in a revolution, but even as we speak.
...if you knew what Corporate Fascism looked like, or were studious enough to have omniscient perspective of our current state, you might understand why some feel it is time.
The big thing you've missed is this: the heinous and atrocious acts and influences of our current fascist state is masked and shrouded as "normal"; without global or retrospective context, such horrid things go unnoticed. At this very moment, the majority are as imbeciles, useful idiots that do not realize the offenses against them.
Its just as bad to have a nation of fat, poisoned, apathetic, distracted, depressed, overworked, paranoid, self-loathing zombies, as having a nation whose government forcefully oppresses them.
Notice there are far more zombies.... thats scary.
It sounds a lot more like they had software scavenging publicly available information, with alerts.
It would be nearly a complete waste of time to have people looking up twitter posts of random travelers, for most of the time nothing of interest would be found.
Methinks the government has gone the way of google/facebook/etc, and it didn't happen yesterday. Why would the government let all of this freely accessible intel slide on by? Pretty much after the Patriot Act laid waste to the Intelligence Oversight Act of 1974, the so-called 'protections' of US Persons became gray area, aka worthless.
In 74, the atrocities of intelligence collection past was culled and forced to heed our Constitution. In 2001, that effort, by-and-large, was undone.
Any news that is 'owned' by Murdoch is highly tainted and, from my experience, shouldn't be considered truthful without serious comparison and analysis. I didn't say it was fringe at all.
Secondly, my OP skepticism was valid, based on the long standing evidence surrounding Murdoch's influence on his businesses and their so-called 'news'. What you didn't understand, and decided to attack, was that my OP was in jest, with valid skepticism. You, then, pointed at irony, while posing Murdoch-employee-like ad-hominem, providing further irony to the conversation. At that point, the subject shifted from skepticism of Murdoch-sourced media, to you; you didn't notice.
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The key, and what is happening now, is that the tools are being made. Once the tools are made, the rest is a matter of development. Don't be doubtful. Time moves faster than your expectations.
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Hey coward, I'm sorry I forgot to put "...first person to report discovery of the holes....". Not that having been so clear would have had ANY significance regarding my point. So please don't pretend you missed my point.
It is hardly as simple as you're stating, but I won't cut you for that because walls of text are time-consuming and most people don't actually read them.
It is important to recognize that there is no distinction between corporations and the actions of the US Federal Government, most state governments, and even county/city governments in many cases. Corporations are, in nearly all cases, the beneficiary to US policy in one form or another -- one only needs to be paying attention to the motivations for bills, those who benefit, and those who lose. By and large, nearly every policy move in the US is a pro-corporate move -- it is because of this, though not always recognized, that many of us paying attention say that the Republicans and Democrats are two sides of the same coin.
85% of politicians are/were lawyers, all judges are/were lawyers--- can we expect the US Gov't to crack down on litigious activity? LOL.
The *MAJORITY* of campaign contributions are coming directly or indirectly from corporate sponsors (either the corps themselves, or those running the show) -- should we expect the US Gov't to *NOT* be biased to helping corporations? LOL.
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Sadly, 300 million americans, many of which, for circumstances beyond their control, work for these corporations, are the second in line for consideration from a political standpoint. We the people do not get them elected.... they noticed that the money got them elected, and the dumb people sent the votes that the money was used to influence them for.
You aren't into nanotech, are you?
Massive nano-scale manufacturing is much closer to reality than you seem to assume. Look into it. No spoon on hand for me to spoonfeed right now, sorry.
You can have an IQ greater than 140, but not have much or any useful/relevant understanding of IT security.
Furthermore, if it 'didn't require a skilled approach' why was the first person to discover the holes 1) Skilled in this type of security, and 2) Deliberately probing for the holes. Something about those two highly significant circumstances tells me that my point about requiring 'skills' is quite clear... And something about your response to all this implies that because you can pretend you know these things, that such things are blatant and accessible to anyone...
Bye coward.
A gaping hole is blatant. These security holes were no and required skilled approach just to be identified. aka, i snuck in through the vents, pkease fix that and pay me.
I very grumpily accept the patching schemes of modern games, deferring to my enjoyment and the high complexity of code in modern big games. Fortunately, small devs make small games, so it behooves them not to be lazier thn their predecessors, whose small games seemed big at th time (nes, snes, genesis) whereby extensive testing was required so the release would be undoubtably stable.
No, smalldev mcgee, youre not impressing me enough to be 1) permitted to release buggy games and 2) complain about the high costs of the patches your games are too small to require (if youre not lazy or overextending).
Something tells me that this expression of religious fundamentalist violence will not be noticed by the war on aforementioned....
Im "him".
I know several people with 4g service, including me; none of us would turn it on unless we know we will get service (and use it) or are probing for service so we can know. Its not like 4g users dont already know the gist of the articl already.... youve got to be pretty unaware not to notice your battery drain when its on.
I just wonder why "fix" something that isnt broken.... waste of resources and liberty for what gains?
Can i hold a book for you, but not read it? Yes. Can a social network provide its service, but not use your data, leaving access only to your friends and such? Yes.
The point is not about storing your book. Its about the company storing it actually reading it when you dont want them to.
Dont act clueless.... you seriously dont understand how facebook could provide most of its services, but without logging and utilizing? How do you think cloud services work?
Think for 10 seconds...
Most facebook users have no idea how deep the analysis of their data/relationships goes or the true privacy implications related. Don't assume too much about average joe.... average joe and janette are strapped with bills, jobs, kids, housework, overtime, stress, and american media psychosis... if understanding privacy and internet data mining isn't part of their occupation, there's a slim chance they know about it.
.... for a social networking platform that does not track/store/analyze/use my personal data or relationship information.
Any takers?
Something tells me that the 'free' fee for facebook has everything to do with its popularity. Some of us would pay, but many people have culturally come to understand that so long as something is 'free', anything can be given up for it.
So.... in your estimation.... oligopolies in blatant collusion, enforcing self-interest policy in washington from telecoms, to defense industry, to automotive, to resources, to energy distribution, to agriculture/food supply..... whose control over our day to day lives leaves us with no alternatives, funds them through subsidy direct from our pockets, and has established majority control over media and political funding......... you think this isn't real.
I could spend hours and hours providing you examples of how each and every point I just mentioned is real, but you're not worth it. You've already assumed you know enough and closed your reasoning down.
So, as I said before, I won't waste my time trying to convince the useful idiots that they should know something when the useful idiot contends they don't need to; you're in that group.
The pilots, friends, and crew that go down with them could hardly be important...
(sarcasm)
I think you're an idiot with no sense of informed perspective. You have perspective; but you've yet to have the information required to know wtf you're looking at.
Its the naivety and fervor of buffoons like you that maintain the disgusting and corrupt existence we have in the US. You don't see Mussolini, therefore there is nothing awry... I'm sure examples will fall on deaf ears, blind eyes, poor critical thinking, and and limited scope of intellect....
You *are* the zombie I talked about. I bet you don't like being called that, deny its truth, and will never understand why.
You're a waste of my time because of the same corporate fascism that you cannot realize; you *are* their product and example of how a 'peaceful' yet horrid takeover has been achieved.
Fucking tool.
I'd almost bet a testicle that the resources used to acquire these goods was far more than $4.8M.
Our taxes bought this trash on behalf of private industry---- why?
Hey,asshole.
All you demonstrated is that you dont have an informed perspective of our current state. We are, and have been, under corporate fascism for decades.
But if you have limited knowledge and simple thinking, today's problems arent like Mussolini, so its not so bad..... WRONG. Having mostly useless zombies for fellow citizens is just as bad, if not worse, for they are dumb enough to fight against their own best interests; not just in a revolution, but even as we speak.
...if you knew what Corporate Fascism looked like, or were studious enough to have omniscient perspective of our current state, you might understand why some feel it is time.
The big thing you've missed is this: the heinous and atrocious acts and influences of our current fascist state is masked and shrouded as "normal"; without global or retrospective context, such horrid things go unnoticed. At this very moment, the majority are as imbeciles, useful idiots that do not realize the offenses against them.
Its just as bad to have a nation of fat, poisoned, apathetic, distracted, depressed, overworked, paranoid, self-loathing zombies, as having a nation whose government forcefully oppresses them.
Notice there are far more zombies.... thats scary.
...before the comment... Yes, I realize the Brit's of the OP are not US Persons....
holdup.. someone is at the door.
That sounds pretty unlikely.
It sounds a lot more like they had software scavenging publicly available information, with alerts.
It would be nearly a complete waste of time to have people looking up twitter posts of random travelers, for most of the time nothing of interest would be found.
Methinks the government has gone the way of google/facebook/etc, and it didn't happen yesterday. Why would the government let all of this freely accessible intel slide on by? Pretty much after the Patriot Act laid waste to the Intelligence Oversight Act of 1974, the so-called 'protections' of US Persons became gray area, aka worthless.
In 74, the atrocities of intelligence collection past was culled and forced to heed our Constitution. In 2001, that effort, by-and-large, was undone.
Mainstream/Popular are synonymous; get a hint.
Any news that is 'owned' by Murdoch is highly tainted and, from my experience, shouldn't be considered truthful without serious comparison and analysis. I didn't say it was fringe at all.
Secondly, my OP skepticism was valid, based on the long standing evidence surrounding Murdoch's influence on his businesses and their so-called 'news'. What you didn't understand, and decided to attack, was that my OP was in jest, with valid skepticism. You, then, pointed at irony, while posing Murdoch-employee-like ad-hominem, providing further irony to the conversation. At that point, the subject shifted from skepticism of Murdoch-sourced media, to you; you didn't notice.
Lol... mainstream = reliable... lol. Bye turd.