I have to agree about getting rid of all kinds of things if everyone MUST USE them.
Not everyone uses the roads. Not everyone even uses the telecom infrastructure (mostly taxpayer produced).
Not everyone needs the oil we spend billions securing and subsidizing. Not everyone gets disability despite everyone on earth lacking SOME form of ability, and we all pay into it because we might actually have a bad disability at some point. Thats why its a good idea. Because the majority of the people want it and its cheaper, more reliable, and better overall speed. This is the facts of pretty much every personal opinion I've read from people who have directly benefit from municipal ISP.
Some of us completely disagree with defense spending. Some of us are very safe about fire safety, some pass out while smoking. Its all really a matter of having social respect, understanding, and honor for each other. If we are god's creations, then we are more precious than any paper money or material gold. And if we are all unique animations of replicating biochemical manifestations in a physical universe, as blunt as that is, we are far more precious than paper money or gold. So quit with the "ME" crap. WE THE PEOPLE. Go find a cave if you want to be alone. Just dont use OUR roads to get there, ok?
Great point, now they only need to pass the same restrictions and barriers for capital ISPs to do business there as well and then there will be no unfair advantages, right? Agree with me or look like a fool.
The money flow is the same. Taxes come from the people just like cash. The difference being a democratically selected municipality being funded instead of near-criminal deceptive telecoms with armies of lawyers (read: No Liability).
The municipaities would have no unfair advantage at all, but here she is pretending that the unfair advantage she gives to private businesses is making things fair.
Someone please start the shooting where it matters.
I've been online since BBS days and caps is more for emphasis than shouting, but if one must receive it as 'shouting' maybe one ought read it anyway and turn down their personal perception of the 'shouting' part of it so as to still receive the message.... Or be whiny about the difference between capital and lower case letters, lol.
In my case, it is used for EMPHASIS. This is to attract the eye to spend more time on the word that is capitalized, and thus ensuring clearer and more specific understanding. When a whole line is capitalized, it means the whole line, in its entirety, is emphasized and should be more seriously read and understood as well.
I'm laughing at you for 1) not knowing this, or 2) being bothered by the difference in how a letter appears on a screen.
I could use asterisks, or italics, or colors, or font size. Using caps is the easiest way, and as you unknowingly have witnessed, is also the most common way to achieve this purpose.
You're supposed to be strong, with stamina, and intelligence/perception of surroundings that is beyond that of the female. Your job is to better provide for her and the offspring you've created.
Females and Males of the same species are still different organisms genetically. The species is carried forward, in our case, on the backs of both sexes.
I hope I don't get bashed for giving our scientifically deduced roles, lol.
C. elegans also exhibit a rare phenomenon called Eutely, where an exact number of cells is produced to make each adult worm. The mapping/division of each and every one of those 959 somatic cells is well known and studied.
Also, to inspire reasearch among more slashdotters, it is really cool to look at them up close because you can directly observe the growth/development of the organism inside the mom along the conveyor-belt-like uterus they have. Each egg along the belt is at a later stage as you progress away from the gonad. You can observe nuclear fusion between sperm/egg, 2-cell, 4-cell, 8-cell, 16-cell, blah cell (32 looks messy), morula, gastrula, etc etc.. It's really cool. In any given mother/herm you can observe several of them. You probably wont see every one from every stage in one mom, but you'll see a few... and all the way up to the living young worm that will come out, hatch from its football-egg pouch, and look just like mom (but smaller).
If you really want to be amazed, look up the image of a C. elegans sperm. It looks like a big slice of pizza! Its flagellae are so little and weak because it has evolved such that the hermie gonads are so close that the big pizza-slice looking sperm just creeps the short distance to where it fertilizes.
Akin to what you are saying, the wealthier people I know drive as fast as they want in gas guzzling cars however they want them to be -- this is because even a $300 speeding ticket isn't really a bother when you make fat cheddaz and pay sneaky accountants to put it in living trusts and show you tax evasion techniques.
Wealthy people do not fear the law, for they afford lawyers. Do you think Google and Facebook, paying under 1% tax this year, are afraid of that blatant illegal act coming back and actually doing anything? NO.
Right.. I understand how american oligopoly is how Oil and Telco businesses gouge/rape us for money. We're all actually well adapted to being gouged. What we *want* is a little more product for such gouging.
Do you know anything about VIDEO and AUDIO? ITS BIG DATA. And in 2012 it will be bigger, and in 2013 it will be bigger... Because people will be wanting 720 and 1080p. Better compression algorithms will only go so far so as to slow down the expansion of demand for that data.
Everyone on slashdot actually knows the truth, which is that our network providers need to be upgrading infrastructure AHEAD OF TIME. They are already behind current times with so much oversaturation, throttling, and capping to attempt to compensate.
WHY NOT JUST DO THE HONEST THING. UPGRADE INFRASTRUCTURE, PASS THE BUCK TO CONSUMER. THAT'S HOW HONEST BUSINESS IS DONE, AND LAST YEAR AT&T STATED THEY COULD DOUBLE INFRASTRUCTURE BANDWIDTH AT A COST OF $6/line. ( I'd urge less profits to upper exectives to afford it, but everyone knows that CEOs run America and its doey-eyed sheep that can't even spell anymore, let alone stop buying from walmart.)
Oh wait.... maybe they can get google to co-opt the upgrade by putting out an ad-sponsored version of internet connectivity! YAY! We can do it the new-american way!
*BARF*.
Am I the only person left that would gladly pay MORE for something BETTER? Must it all be chinese crap of poor design and quality assurance? How many appliances must we throw in the dump, and how many evenings must we sit through lag, for people to realize that cheap-ass business gets you cheap ass product!
... start noticing and thus upgrading INFRASTRUCTURE, and not so it can handle today's usage (which they already can't handle) but TOMORROW'S use.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. I will pay more for what I actually want. Its when there is no choice and it is never what I want that I have an issue. Dropped from 8MB cable that is over-saturated to 3MB DSL that is only a little over-saturated. $20 savings, but I would gladly pay the cable price for the DSL if it was always ideal.
Architecturally, this is the wrong place to put uniquely addressed devices. The addresses should be in the fixtures, to avoid the maintenance headache of readdressing bulbs every time they are replaced. If I want the lights in the room to dim, I don't want to tell the bulbs, I want to tell the room that I'm sitting in. The room contains the fixtures. The fixtures contain the bulbs. How the room talks to the fixtures and the fixtures talk to the bulbs are different questions, but individually addressable bulbs is a maintenance disaster waiting to happen.
Just because they're conveniently end-user replaceable doesn't make it a correct choice, just slightly more practical. X-10, Z-Wave and Insteon are all also equally incorrect in that they generally put the control at the point of the switch, instead of the fixture. Again, the user's ultimate goal is not to control the switch but to control the room's lighting, which is defined by the fixtures and their locations within the room.
Who the hell has money for this kind of crap? Not a single person I know is talking about networked lighting in their home.
All this just sounds like its made for the top 1%, and even among those people you've got to find the subset that would care at all about this stuff.
I'm not trying to say I don't care, but rather that the economy in general, and the wealth disparity, are big factors pointing at how useless this technology is right now as a whole. If the lower 90% of earners had the extra 30% of wealth that they used to have in the 70s and before, maybe our middle class would be interested in networked light bulbs.... but as it stands, they're paying medical bills, upside down mortgages, overpriced capitalist insurance, and ever-rising gas prices (despite OPEC stability over the last decade+).
FYI, rising oil prices do not match OPECs prices at all.... Oil prices are being used to engineer social-political response.
Try thinking about it. Try thinking about yourself in other peoples' shoes, using this data to persecute or do wrong to someone... Be creative. Brainstorm.
These tools were emphasized a lot in elementary school -- use them. I would spoonfeed, but that won't help you be a better thinker.
You can say they don't 'need' to steal the research, but the evidence of Chinese born espionage in the US is blatant. And if you follow corporate and government level espionage in the news you would know that you would bet China if betting your life on who did it.
Seriously, just open your eyes or start paying attention. NASA has been infiltrated by Chinese spies on several occasions. This policy is rational and safe and is a better/safer choice than any potential 'crippling of research' as you put it.
But go ahead pretending this isn't real... go ahead.. I only copied the first few things I looked up, but the truth is about every 3-4 months I read about another Chinese spy in the US. Yet it takes years before I read about ANY OTHER NATION spying (or getting caught at least).
The future of music, with music labels crushed and Google dictating how musicians are paid, is bright.
You just looked at some numbers and came up with all that B.S. on your own? Now please, with ANY FACTS, show me exactly how and why what you just stated will happen. I BET YOU CAN'T BECAUSE YOU JUST MADE UP A BUNCH OF CRAP THEN SPOKE IT OUT YOUR ASS.
from old media, over me accessing songs I own from wherever I am, or any device I have.
I love how MSN automatically knows that my own MP3s are a potential risk, and thus autodeletes them. Thanks Microsoft! I had no idea that MP3 is only used for piracy! I guess I'm the only music producer on the planet that uses it to compress audio and share to people without fee. lol
You don't see any reason because you don't know anything about the tech because you don't have what is called a 'need to know', or maybe even the required clearance.
I can assure you that if that much money is being spent, products are coming from it. Products that are in no way available in civilian markets at all.
But maybe they're just pocketing it all... You'll never know unless you're privy. In retrospect, we can talk about the SR71 blackhawk, U2 Spyplane, and Stealth Bombers -- but those cats are out of the bag by now. But those are also old technology in 2011. Can you at least attempt to estimate the existence of something that you do not know?
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I have to agree about getting rid of all kinds of things if everyone MUST USE them.
Not everyone uses the roads. Not everyone even uses the telecom infrastructure (mostly taxpayer produced).
Not everyone needs the oil we spend billions securing and subsidizing. Not everyone gets disability despite everyone on earth lacking SOME form of ability, and we all pay into it because we might actually have a bad disability at some point. Thats why its a good idea. Because the majority of the people want it and its cheaper, more reliable, and better overall speed. This is the facts of pretty much every personal opinion I've read from people who have directly benefit from municipal ISP.
Some of us completely disagree with defense spending. Some of us are very safe about fire safety, some pass out while smoking. Its all really a matter of having social respect, understanding, and honor for each other. If we are god's creations, then we are more precious than any paper money or material gold. And if we are all unique animations of replicating biochemical manifestations in a physical universe, as blunt as that is, we are far more precious than paper money or gold. So quit with the "ME" crap. WE THE PEOPLE. Go find a cave if you want to be alone. Just dont use OUR roads to get there, ok?
Great point, now they only need to pass the same restrictions and barriers for capital ISPs to do business there as well and then there will be no unfair advantages, right? Agree with me or look like a fool.
I think that's what "close to free" means.
The money flow is the same. Taxes come from the people just like cash. The difference being a democratically selected municipality being funded instead of near-criminal deceptive telecoms with armies of lawyers (read: No Liability).
...say the opposite of what is happening....
The municipaities would have no unfair advantage at all, but here she is pretending that the unfair advantage she gives to private businesses is making things fair.
Someone please start the shooting where it matters.
I can't handle the crazy porn you get tricked into already... Hell on earth versions will be horrifying!!
trust no one
Lol. See yall in december 2012, worried about the same babble.
I've been online since BBS days and caps is more for emphasis than shouting, but if one must receive it as 'shouting' maybe one ought read it anyway and turn down their personal perception of the 'shouting' part of it so as to still receive the message.... Or be whiny about the difference between capital and lower case letters, lol.
That was poorly worded, by the way. I meant that mens' intelligence is greater in spatial perception, not as a whole.
In my case, it is used for EMPHASIS. This is to attract the eye to spend more time on the word that is capitalized, and thus ensuring clearer and more specific understanding. When a whole line is capitalized, it means the whole line, in its entirety, is emphasized and should be more seriously read and understood as well.
I'm laughing at you for 1) not knowing this, or 2) being bothered by the difference in how a letter appears on a screen.
I could use asterisks, or italics, or colors, or font size. Using caps is the easiest way, and as you unknowingly have witnessed, is also the most common way to achieve this purpose.
Whew... I was about to start hoping you don't vote.
Vote onward, citizen.
You're not a male worm or snake, though.
You're supposed to be strong, with stamina, and intelligence/perception of surroundings that is beyond that of the female. Your job is to better provide for her and the offspring you've created.
Females and Males of the same species are still different organisms genetically. The species is carried forward, in our case, on the backs of both sexes.
I hope I don't get bashed for giving our scientifically deduced roles, lol.
C. elegans also exhibit a rare phenomenon called Eutely, where an exact number of cells is produced to make each adult worm. The mapping/division of each and every one of those 959 somatic cells is well known and studied.
Also, to inspire reasearch among more slashdotters, it is really cool to look at them up close because you can directly observe the growth/development of the organism inside the mom along the conveyor-belt-like uterus they have. Each egg along the belt is at a later stage as you progress away from the gonad. You can observe nuclear fusion between sperm/egg, 2-cell, 4-cell, 8-cell, 16-cell, blah cell (32 looks messy), morula, gastrula, etc etc.. It's really cool. In any given mother/herm you can observe several of them. You probably wont see every one from every stage in one mom, but you'll see a few... and all the way up to the living young worm that will come out, hatch from its football-egg pouch, and look just like mom (but smaller).
If you really want to be amazed, look up the image of a C. elegans sperm. It looks like a big slice of pizza! Its flagellae are so little and weak because it has evolved such that the hermie gonads are so close that the big pizza-slice looking sperm just creeps the short distance to where it fertilizes.
Akin to what you are saying, the wealthier people I know drive as fast as they want in gas guzzling cars however they want them to be -- this is because even a $300 speeding ticket isn't really a bother when you make fat cheddaz and pay sneaky accountants to put it in living trusts and show you tax evasion techniques.
Wealthy people do not fear the law, for they afford lawyers. Do you think Google and Facebook, paying under 1% tax this year, are afraid of that blatant illegal act coming back and actually doing anything? NO.
I hope you're joking, but if not, I have a joke for you.
Dude1: what is two thousand twelve???
Dude2: a doomsday? The end?
Dude1: no, it is two thousand, plus twelve.
Right.. I understand how american oligopoly is how Oil and Telco businesses gouge/rape us for money. We're all actually well adapted to being gouged. What we *want* is a little more product for such gouging.
Thanks for the backup.
Making content delivery 'more efficient'? WTF?
Do you know anything about VIDEO and AUDIO? ITS BIG DATA. And in 2012 it will be bigger, and in 2013 it will be bigger... Because people will be wanting 720 and 1080p. Better compression algorithms will only go so far so as to slow down the expansion of demand for that data.
Everyone on slashdot actually knows the truth, which is that our network providers need to be upgrading infrastructure AHEAD OF TIME. They are already behind current times with so much oversaturation, throttling, and capping to attempt to compensate.
WHY NOT JUST DO THE HONEST THING. UPGRADE INFRASTRUCTURE, PASS THE BUCK TO CONSUMER. THAT'S HOW HONEST BUSINESS IS DONE, AND LAST YEAR AT&T STATED THEY COULD DOUBLE INFRASTRUCTURE BANDWIDTH AT A COST OF $6/line. ( I'd urge less profits to upper exectives to afford it, but everyone knows that CEOs run America and its doey-eyed sheep that can't even spell anymore, let alone stop buying from walmart.)
Oh wait.... maybe they can get google to co-opt the upgrade by putting out an ad-sponsored version of internet connectivity! YAY! We can do it the new-american way!
*BARF*.
Am I the only person left that would gladly pay MORE for something BETTER? Must it all be chinese crap of poor design and quality assurance? How many appliances must we throw in the dump, and how many evenings must we sit through lag, for people to realize that cheap-ass business gets you cheap ass product!
... start noticing and thus upgrading INFRASTRUCTURE, and not so it can handle today's usage (which they already can't handle) but TOMORROW'S use.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. I will pay more for what I actually want. Its when there is no choice and it is never what I want that I have an issue. Dropped from 8MB cable that is over-saturated to 3MB DSL that is only a little over-saturated. $20 savings, but I would gladly pay the cable price for the DSL if it was always ideal.
Architecturally, this is the wrong place to put uniquely addressed devices. The addresses should be in the fixtures, to avoid the maintenance headache of readdressing bulbs every time they are replaced. If I want the lights in the room to dim, I don't want to tell the bulbs, I want to tell the room that I'm sitting in. The room contains the fixtures. The fixtures contain the bulbs. How the room talks to the fixtures and the fixtures talk to the bulbs are different questions, but individually addressable bulbs is a maintenance disaster waiting to happen.
Just because they're conveniently end-user replaceable doesn't make it a correct choice, just slightly more practical. X-10, Z-Wave and Insteon are all also equally incorrect in that they generally put the control at the point of the switch, instead of the fixture. Again, the user's ultimate goal is not to control the switch but to control the room's lighting, which is defined by the fixtures and their locations within the room.
Who the hell has money for this kind of crap? Not a single person I know is talking about networked lighting in their home.
All this just sounds like its made for the top 1%, and even among those people you've got to find the subset that would care at all about this stuff.
I'm not trying to say I don't care, but rather that the economy in general, and the wealth disparity, are big factors pointing at how useless this technology is right now as a whole. If the lower 90% of earners had the extra 30% of wealth that they used to have in the 70s and before, maybe our middle class would be interested in networked light bulbs.... but as it stands, they're paying medical bills, upside down mortgages, overpriced capitalist insurance, and ever-rising gas prices (despite OPEC stability over the last decade+).
FYI, rising oil prices do not match OPECs prices at all.... Oil prices are being used to engineer social-political response.
Try thinking about it. Try thinking about yourself in other peoples' shoes, using this data to persecute or do wrong to someone... Be creative. Brainstorm.
These tools were emphasized a lot in elementary school -- use them. I would spoonfeed, but that won't help you be a better thinker.
You can say they don't 'need' to steal the research, but the evidence of Chinese born espionage in the US is blatant. And if you follow corporate and government level espionage in the news you would know that you would bet China if betting your life on who did it.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/spy/spies/
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/11/19/national/main5708534.shtml
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military/news/3319656
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/foremski/chinese-spies-use-cyber-hacking-and-sexual-blackmail/1104
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2008-02-12/news/shuttlespy12_1_space-technology-military-technology-republic-of-china
http://www.haohaoreport.com/ChinaNews/Chinese-spy-gets-more-than-15-years-in-prison
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/fbi-arrests-chinese-spies-over-theft-of-military-data-781090.html .............
Seriously, just open your eyes or start paying attention. NASA has been infiltrated by Chinese spies on several occasions. This policy is rational and safe and is a better/safer choice than any potential 'crippling of research' as you put it.
But go ahead pretending this isn't real... go ahead.. I only copied the first few things I looked up, but the truth is about every 3-4 months I read about another Chinese spy in the US. Yet it takes years before I read about ANY OTHER NATION spying (or getting caught at least).
I don't need anything from china to survive. My food, water, shelter, and basic medical aid is all right here.
Apple is raping developers and Google is raping your privacy. Never thought I'd consider moving back to Windows Mobile :(
You still aren't considering it, hahah. WinMo is such trash in all its flavors.
Marvelous. Buying the law.
The future of music, with music labels crushed and Google dictating how musicians are paid, is bright.
You just looked at some numbers and came up with all that B.S. on your own? Now please, with ANY FACTS, show me exactly how and why what you just stated will happen. I BET YOU CAN'T BECAUSE YOU JUST MADE UP A BUNCH OF CRAP THEN SPOKE IT OUT YOUR ASS.
from old media, over me accessing songs I own from wherever I am, or any device I have.
I love how MSN automatically knows that my own MP3s are a potential risk, and thus autodeletes them. Thanks Microsoft! I had no idea that MP3 is only used for piracy! I guess I'm the only music producer on the planet that uses it to compress audio and share to people without fee. lol
You don't see any reason because you don't know anything about the tech because you don't have what is called a 'need to know', or maybe even the required clearance.
I can assure you that if that much money is being spent, products are coming from it. Products that are in no way available in civilian markets at all.
But maybe they're just pocketing it all... You'll never know unless you're privy. In retrospect, we can talk about the SR71 blackhawk, U2 Spyplane, and Stealth Bombers -- but those cats are out of the bag by now. But those are also old technology in 2011. Can you at least attempt to estimate the existence of something that you do not know?