I fail to see any kind of plausible explanation why "We were busy defending ourselves from Anonymous" affected the poor design of their security structure.
No, of course not, but to the average "layman Kompooter User" that sounds just plausible enough to make it stick. Sort of like claiming "I hit the little old lady while swerving away from the child that ran onto the road..."
I wonder how hard it would be to rig a phone to deliver enough current through it to fry the machine itself? Do these data cables have a positive/negative wire? It wouldn't be hard to reverse those and do likewise on your own data cable at home/office...
Does any one else find it kind of cute how they label the axes in miles, in increments of 50km?
The scientists probably did all of their work in kms, but then changed the numbers to miles so that the average American had a clue to it. It may have been difficult (for some unknown reason) to change the labels to increments of 50 miles...
Makes sense. That's my format of choice for anything that needs a date in a filename. Anything else (honestly) just seems stupid and backwards. I Hi-Five those wonderful forward thinkers of Mandarin Chinese!
I don't know if you could convict any US employee of the actual bribes or even for looking the other way. Some of them might have known about it, but good luck proving that. They could prove the company was liable, but they can't throw anyone in jail for it.
Why not? If you can't find Joe Fatpockets who handed the cash over, get his boss. Seeing as it was more likely a cheque or transfer of money, I am sure that there is a lovely audit trail of who authorised that and who requested it.
If I can go to jail for bribing someone, I don't see why the same shouldn't apply just because a COMPANY did it. IBM bribed a few (or many) hundred thousand dollars. They likely gained many (or a few) millions from those bribes in return business. A $10 mill fine isn't going to mean anything. They have likely made a heck of a lot more in return anyhow. Make an example if you want to start teaching your companies to trade above board. $10 million fine AND someone goes to jail for bribery. Start at the top of the food chain - I am sure the CEO will track it down the chain to find the dodgy guy - or throw him in jail, that's what CEOs get paid the big bucks for at the end of the day right? THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE COMPANY.
Seeing as you are only semi-trolling, I will only semi-reply.
World War 2 started in 1939. Sep 1940 - The US passed a conscription bill. Mar 1941 - US Passes the Lend-Lease act. Jun 1941 - US Freezes German and Italian assests in the US. Jul 1941 - US Freezes Japanese assets in the US. Aug 1941 - US introduces oil embargo against aggressor states. Dec 1941 - Japan bombs Pearl Harbour. Dec 1941 - US declares war on Japan. Dec 1941 - Hitler declares war on US. Jan 26th 1941 - First US forces arrive in Britain.
The next war the US was in was Korea (1950-1953).
The US involvement in the war prior to having a serious surprise attack on it's own base was freezing assests and oil embargos. C'Mon, seriously. You didn't win the war or lead the charge. You were essentially snoozing until someone stubbed your toe.
Really I'd be fine if all disclaimers were removed. If someone can't understand on their own that, say, a can of insecticide is not something you can safely ingest, at least this would keep them out of the voting booths, off of the public roads, and ineligible for Social Security. It would be a win-win-win.
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The actions of the hackers don't fall under the definition because no one was hurt and no penalties were passed out.
That is arguable. A CEO stepped down. A company is now plummeting in terms of value. On the flipside, should that company ever have been worth that much?
So, what we really need to discuss here isn't so much is it okay to be a vigilante, but rather look at each case and determine it on the merits of that single example - and evaluate it on a "Does the end justify the means?" scale.
Here, the means were illegal in some way, but does the end - showing how corrupt, morally and ethically disgusting a company is - justify the rules that were broken?
My opinion? Absolutely. I have been living in Australia for the majority of my life and if there is something that Aussies like, it's an underdog. Secondly, what we like even more than an underdog is one that goes out for the good of the people. So, here, I applaud the actions of this Goliath killing David in this case. Ask me again when the next one comes up and I will again evaluate the incident based on its individual merits.
It has been tried in a few South American countries, with some success and some failure.
The problem is all about training people on how to use the new software. Using OO Writer instead of Word for example. Sure, sounds simple, the nerds can probably fgure it out without blinking, but it is all the NON-NERDS who make it a very expensive idea to test. They all have to be trained, they lose some productivity for a while, they have to learn how to do new tricks that might be application specific and the like.
The problem with government is that they rarely want to engage in a project that has a longer return on investment than the next election date. They don't want to be the government that lost 20% productivity during a financially difficult time for the net benefit of saving the next government a bunch of cash. Sad, but true.
Or more reasonably, that any new episodes would fit between the two, since it's implied that a lot of time passed between the series and the movie.
Ummm, why do I feel like I am going insane here!
The time line of the movie started BEFORE the series, and finished AFTER the series. The movie goes through Simon rescuing River, in the series they merely got ON THE SHIP (either way, that was the first time they were onboard Firefly). Therefore there is utterly no reason why any other seasons of the series couldn't fit in like the original season - basically inside the timeline of the movie.
Taxi driver comes into ER after being stabbed in the head. Doctor examines, administers care, inserts sutures etc etc and the one I don't get MISSES 4 INCH SECTION OF BLADE still in the mans head?
I mean seriously, when a kid gets a gravel knee, the first thing you do is check to make sure that all the gravel bits are out before you put a bandaid/bandage on! Break some glass? Check to make sure all the glass bits are out of the cut!
Surely, you would apply this same logic to a stabbing in the head?
I would argue that all the points you make do in fact point to "Bully" and that is never a good thing.
Not to pick bones, but "Her inception" to all the other countries there, basically meant that someone came and took the land away from them! Of course they are annoyed and angry about it!
Does Israel get a pretty short straw? Absolutely, but I do have to say that I don't believe that they are making it easier for themselves. For the most part, that can be said about most nations in that region. The biggest player on a field should earn the respect of the other players and get them to follow suit rather than simply intimidating, running clandestine operations and in your words "assassinating nuclear scientists in other countries".
There aren't many fundamentalists compared to moderates, but every time one of them is killed, all the moderates close to that person will feel just that little more tired, angry or plain out infuriated - giving a net result of more fundamentalists. On the other hand, each act of compassion, each charitable hand extended will keep the moderates calm and you might even find a few of the fundamentalists starting to question violence.*
Stop the cycle of violence. BE the bigger man you claim you are.
* This idea really works anywhere in the world, not just the middle east. When will people figure out that the carrot will always win over the stick.
What's with the 'cyber' prefix anyway? It doesn't mean anything.
Yes, it means that you can double your fee for the cyberfix.
1> Security Issue: $10 Million to fix. 2> Cyber Security Issue: $20 Million to fix.
Think back ten to fifteen years - Anyone with "dotcom" development experience could double or triple their salary by including that on their resume. Same person, no difference, but it makes the dollars involved higher.
Actually, the lore in Tolkien claimed that the palantir were made by the elves - way before they got into the hands of Sauron and Saruman. Those two just happened to have two of them which they were using. I am pretty sure that Elrond had one tucked away in Rivendell, but they were not using it as they knew that Sauron had one. Things can be made by good folk and used by bad.
Actually, without even reading the link, it is pretty clear it is okay. The whole point here is that if you flourish whatever you are teaching with a religious highlight, it seems that you are able to do it - but if you replace that theological flourish with a touch of science, you can get into trouble with anyone and everyone who believes otherwise.
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Same here.
I fail to see any kind of plausible explanation why "We were busy defending ourselves from Anonymous" affected the poor design of their security structure.
No, of course not, but to the average "layman Kompooter User" that sounds just plausible enough to make it stick. Sort of like claiming "I hit the little old lady while swerving away from the child that ran onto the road..."
Expecting ethical behavior from a corporation is like a duck expecting a piggyback ride across a lake from an alligator.
Which is not to say that it will never happen it is just unlikely....?
I wonder how hard it would be to rig a phone to deliver enough current through it to fry the machine itself? Do these data cables have a positive/negative wire? It wouldn't be hard to reverse those and do likewise on your own data cable at home/office...
Does any one else find it kind of cute how they label the axes in miles, in increments of 50km?
The scientists probably did all of their work in kms, but then changed the numbers to miles so that the average American had a clue to it. It may have been difficult (for some unknown reason) to change the labels to increments of 50 miles...
that article is amazing. that guy needs to go on a vigilante shooting spree just to make things right!
No, two wrongs don't make a right. What this guy needs is a civil suit that can't be overturned :)
Makes sense. That's my format of choice for anything that needs a date in a filename. Anything else (honestly) just seems stupid and backwards. I Hi-Five those wonderful forward thinkers of Mandarin Chinese!
I don't know if you could convict any US employee of the actual bribes or even for looking the other way. Some of them might have known about it, but good luck proving that. They could prove the company was liable, but they can't throw anyone in jail for it.
Why not? If you can't find Joe Fatpockets who handed the cash over, get his boss. Seeing as it was more likely a cheque or transfer of money, I am sure that there is a lovely audit trail of who authorised that and who requested it.
If I can go to jail for bribing someone, I don't see why the same shouldn't apply just because a COMPANY did it. IBM bribed a few (or many) hundred thousand dollars. They likely gained many (or a few) millions from those bribes in return business. A $10 mill fine isn't going to mean anything. They have likely made a heck of a lot more in return anyhow. Make an example if you want to start teaching your companies to trade above board. $10 million fine AND someone goes to jail for bribery. Start at the top of the food chain - I am sure the CEO will track it down the chain to find the dodgy guy - or throw him in jail, that's what CEOs get paid the big bucks for at the end of the day right? THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE COMPANY.
Seeing as you are only semi-trolling, I will only semi-reply.
World War 2 started in 1939.
Sep 1940 - The US passed a conscription bill.
Mar 1941 - US Passes the Lend-Lease act.
Jun 1941 - US Freezes German and Italian assests in the US.
Jul 1941 - US Freezes Japanese assets in the US.
Aug 1941 - US introduces oil embargo against aggressor states.
Dec 1941 - Japan bombs Pearl Harbour.
Dec 1941 - US declares war on Japan.
Dec 1941 - Hitler declares war on US.
Jan 26th 1941 - First US forces arrive in Britain.
The next war the US was in was Korea (1950-1953).
The US involvement in the war prior to having a serious surprise attack on it's own base was freezing assests and oil embargos. C'Mon, seriously. You didn't win the war or lead the charge. You were essentially snoozing until someone stubbed your toe.
Really I'd be fine if all disclaimers were removed. If someone can't understand on their own that, say, a can of insecticide is not something you can safely ingest, at least this would keep them out of the voting booths, off of the public roads, and ineligible for Social Security. It would be a win-win-win.
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The actions of the hackers don't fall under the definition because no one was hurt and no penalties were passed out.
That is arguable. A CEO stepped down. A company is now plummeting in terms of value.
On the flipside, should that company ever have been worth that much?
So, what we really need to discuss here isn't so much is it okay to be a vigilante, but rather look at each case and determine it on the merits of that single example - and evaluate it on a "Does the end justify the means?" scale.
Here, the means were illegal in some way, but does the end - showing how corrupt, morally and ethically disgusting a company is - justify the rules that were broken?
My opinion? Absolutely. I have been living in Australia for the majority of my life and if there is something that Aussies like, it's an underdog. Secondly, what we like even more than an underdog is one that goes out for the good of the people. So, here, I applaud the actions of this Goliath killing David in this case. Ask me again when the next one comes up and I will again evaluate the incident based on its individual merits.
It has been tried in a few South American countries, with some success and some failure.
The problem is all about training people on how to use the new software. Using OO Writer instead of Word for example. Sure, sounds simple, the nerds can probably fgure it out without blinking, but it is all the NON-NERDS who make it a very expensive idea to test. They all have to be trained, they lose some productivity for a while, they have to learn how to do new tricks that might be application specific and the like.
The problem with government is that they rarely want to engage in a project that has a longer return on investment than the next election date. They don't want to be the government that lost 20% productivity during a financially difficult time for the net benefit of saving the next government a bunch of cash. Sad, but true.
Or you could watch the 1969 movie Doppleganger which covers just this.
OR you could read the Wikipedia entry on the movie Doppleganger and be even betterER!
I just call him Gandalfi...
*sips coffee*
Indeed.
That is the downright shiniest website I have seen all week! I think I have found a new hobby to put effort and time into!
Or more reasonably, that any new episodes would fit between the two, since it's implied that a lot of time passed between the series and the movie.
Ummm, why do I feel like I am going insane here!
The time line of the movie started BEFORE the series, and finished AFTER the series. The movie goes through Simon rescuing River, in the series they merely got ON THE SHIP (either way, that was the first time they were onboard Firefly). Therefore there is utterly no reason why any other seasons of the series couldn't fit in like the original season - basically inside the timeline of the movie.
I just can't understand this:
Taxi driver comes into ER after being stabbed in the head.
Doctor examines, administers care, inserts sutures etc etc and the one I don't get MISSES 4 INCH SECTION OF BLADE still in the mans head?
I mean seriously, when a kid gets a gravel knee, the first thing you do is check to make sure that all the gravel bits are out before you put a bandaid/bandage on! Break some glass? Check to make sure all the glass bits are out of the cut!
Surely, you would apply this same logic to a stabbing in the head?
Ahhh yes, that little nugget never fails to make me smirk or grin.
*sips coffee*
Yes, but it tries to put a stop on the next bunch of Wikileaks that are on their way...
He is basically following the "Trick me once, shame on you... trick me twice, shame on me" mentality.
I would argue that all the points you make do in fact point to "Bully" and that is never a good thing.
Not to pick bones, but "Her inception" to all the other countries there, basically meant that someone came and took the land away from them! Of course they are annoyed and angry about it!
Does Israel get a pretty short straw? Absolutely, but I do have to say that I don't believe that they are making it easier for themselves. For the most part, that can be said about most nations in that region. The biggest player on a field should earn the respect of the other players and get them to follow suit rather than simply intimidating, running clandestine operations and in your words "assassinating nuclear scientists in other countries".
There aren't many fundamentalists compared to moderates, but every time one of them is killed, all the moderates close to that person will feel just that little more tired, angry or plain out infuriated - giving a net result of more fundamentalists. On the other hand, each act of compassion, each charitable hand extended will keep the moderates calm and you might even find a few of the fundamentalists starting to question violence.*
Stop the cycle of violence. BE the bigger man you claim you are.
* This idea really works anywhere in the world, not just the middle east. When will people figure out that the carrot will always win over the stick.
What's with the 'cyber' prefix anyway? It doesn't mean anything.
Yes, it means that you can double your fee for the cyberfix.
1> Security Issue: $10 Million to fix.
2> Cyber Security Issue: $20 Million to fix.
Think back ten to fifteen years - Anyone with "dotcom" development experience could double or triple their salary by including that on their resume. Same person, no difference, but it makes the dollars involved higher.
You mean this one that is still there and happily waiting for you to metamod in?
*pops on nerd hat and glasses*
Actually, the lore in Tolkien claimed that the palantir were made by the elves - way before they got into the hands of Sauron and Saruman. Those two just happened to have two of them which they were using. I am pretty sure that Elrond had one tucked away in Rivendell, but they were not using it as they knew that Sauron had one. Things can be made by good folk and used by bad.
*quickly hides nerd accessories*
*sips coffee*
We are moving forward - even when you don't want to!
We are moving forward - only when you want to.
There, fixed that for you...
Actually, without even reading the link, it is pretty clear it is okay. The whole point here is that if you flourish whatever you are teaching with a religious highlight, it seems that you are able to do it - but if you replace that theological flourish with a touch of science, you can get into trouble with anyone and everyone who believes otherwise.