Not a subscriber, but I think that's close. They have a publicly-accessible CVS containing the portions of wine that are provided under a mishmosh of variously-free licenses, and the commercial product consists of the build of that, plus some extra stuff ("aggregated" if you will) that's provided sans source. Theoretically, anyway; I don't know if anyone's ever tried to verify it.:)
Perhaps you didn't notice because 3 scared you away, but 5 is far more closely related to 2 than 3. They realized how bad 3 sucked, and then skipped a whole digit just to tell you how cool 5 was. And it really is pretty nice. Better than what else is out there, anyway.
All of the major security holes for Winamp that I recall had to do with the fact that it has a component that embeds Internet Explorer. And I've never seen a case of winamp-related "spyware" that doesn't involve either use of IE or other blatant stupidity.
Yeah, the drivers aren't bad, but it's been my experience that if they work for you, and nothing in the changelog looks that interesting, you might as well stick with what you've got. They've done their share of accidentally breaking things:)
Actually, this might be the best solution. Do all the work to integrate the whole ugly license-management system into distributions' package-management systems, tie it into the hardware support, and have the license-verify wizard be a great technicolor flashing skull-and-crossbones effect, MovieOS style, with 3D surround-sound sirens, and a digitized voice saying "WARNING, WARNING, RESTRICTED ACCESS SOFTWARE. ACCEPT LICENSE TERMS OR YOUR COMPUTER WILL REBOOT IN 30 SECONDS.... 20 SECONDS..."
The folks at intel have said that their license makes it perfectly fine for distribution, but it's not realistically true, unless your distro's hardware-detect script pops up a window when it notices the card telling you that you're using firmware under a license, that you only have permission to use it in conjunction with Intel hardware, and that you won't distribute, sell, copy, disassemble, or yadda it.
Apparently they think that would work just fine. But really it's a load of crap. I'm using an ipw2200, and I live with the personal-use license, but the distributor license is an absolute beautiful load of bullshit.
That's the thing. when it comes to DRM, "draconian" is the easiest thing to do. If you're watching a recording and the "advertisement" bit is set, then the fast-forward button stops working. And maybe if you're watching your favorite TV show, and an ad comes on, the channel buttons stop working. Channel surfing during the commercials is theft, you know! If you watch ER, you have an obligation to watch NBC's ads, and nobody else's programming!
Not true -- but thoroughly easy to implement in hardware once everything goes digital. And with the kind of interpretation that the DMCA gets, completely enforceable.
Heinlein references are good, but I've noticed that this discussion has a distinct lack of Sagan references. Didn't Sol Hadden get big on a gizmo for automatically skipping commercials?
I should mention that the further complication is that it's a Prisoner's Dilemma with hundreds of millions of players in this particular country, and voting is the 'defect' option.
No, those who vote choose representatives. Those representatives define the policy. And their policy is never to do any of the things they promise to do. And why should they? Really, there's no reason why they should. They're in the seat of power, and no matter how flagrantly they lie and abuse their power, it's almost certain they won't be removed.
Voting is the process in which people trade their power to affect the world for the "token" power of choosing representatives to betray them. In the words of Mr. Shatner, I can't get behind that.
In that it's exactly the same process, yes. It's also rather similar to the process used to get hi-res photos of spacey objects. I wouldn't say it really stretches the definition that far at all.
It's not ext2 vs. ext3, it's old kernel vs. new kernel. ext2 will happily handle a terabyte or two, same as ext3; it's just a matter of whether your kernel/libc/app combination supports the "LARGEFILE" feature.
True -- but it's less time spent fetching and installing dependencies, less time spent finding libraries on disk and loading them, and quite a bit less possibility for those nasty library version conflicts, which tend to increase exponentially in the number of libraries.
AIM already sends "capability" bits in buddy status notifications, and if a gaim plugin hijacked an unused one, it certainly wouldn't be the first. Once it does this, it should probably be possible to use the exact same hooks that AIM already uses to establish a direct connection for file transfer or IM, with a different "service type" or whatnot, and obviously without the dialog box asking if you want to make the connection, because of course the plugin assumes that if you installed and ran it, you want to use it.:)
I'm not sure how well abstracted the actual file transfer code in gaim is, but considering all the hoopla I remember about it going in, it's probably pretty well, so how hard could it be to hijack that, too? It seems to me that most of the pieces are already there. If C was my thing, I'd take a shot. I sure could use the cash.
I wouldn't say "the current status is subject to debate", I would say the current status is "Internet Explorer will cease to be to be distributed separately from the operating system", according to Microsoft.
Right. Its real failing is that it's so contrary to the laws of living on Earth that it never could exist for a moment. But that didn't stop a lot of people from trying.
Consider: the GPL is a tool designed to use copyright law to "defang" copyright. Yes, it introduces its own set of restrictions, but they are quite different from the "creator ownership" of modern copyright. There's a reason it gets called "copyleft".
Perhaps it's just that people are against copyright when it's used to smother creativity, and more supportive of it when it's crammed back into its original role of fostering creativity. Or maybe slashdotters just like to rip off music. Doesn't matter that much to me. But I think that if you want to say that people are taking both sides of an issue, you should first look more closely at what the two sides are, and find out what they have in common that one person could believe in both of them. It's almost always instructive.:)
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Not a subscriber, but I think that's close. They have a publicly-accessible CVS containing the portions of wine that are provided under a mishmosh of variously-free licenses, and the commercial product consists of the build of that, plus some extra stuff ("aggregated" if you will) that's provided sans source. Theoretically, anyway; I don't know if anyone's ever tried to verify it. :)
Describe exactly the java "!=" operator (except when it's used on base types) ?
Perhaps you didn't notice because 3 scared you away, but 5 is far more closely related to 2 than 3. They realized how bad 3 sucked, and then skipped a whole digit just to tell you how cool 5 was. And it really is pretty nice. Better than what else is out there, anyway.
:)
All of the major security holes for Winamp that I recall had to do with the fact that it has a component that embeds Internet Explorer. And I've never seen a case of winamp-related "spyware" that doesn't involve either use of IE or other blatant stupidity.
So back off
you really shouldn't have said that. "They" read Slashdot, you know.
Yeah, the drivers aren't bad, but it's been my experience that if they work for you, and nothing in the changelog looks that interesting, you might as well stick with what you've got. They've done their share of accidentally breaking things :)
Actually, this might be the best solution. Do all the work to integrate the whole ugly license-management system into distributions' package-management systems, tie it into the hardware support, and have the license-verify wizard be a great technicolor flashing skull-and-crossbones effect, MovieOS style, with 3D surround-sound sirens, and a digitized voice saying "WARNING, WARNING, RESTRICTED ACCESS SOFTWARE. ACCEPT LICENSE TERMS OR YOUR COMPUTER WILL REBOOT IN 30 SECONDS.... 20 SECONDS..."
The folks at intel have said that their license makes it perfectly fine for distribution, but it's not realistically true, unless your distro's hardware-detect script pops up a window when it notices the card telling you that you're using firmware under a license, that you only have permission to use it in conjunction with Intel hardware, and that you won't distribute, sell, copy, disassemble, or yadda it.
Apparently they think that would work just fine. But really it's a load of crap. I'm using an ipw2200, and I live with the personal-use license, but the distributor license is an absolute beautiful load of bullshit.
There are searches on the intranets?
That's the thing. when it comes to DRM, "draconian" is the easiest thing to do. If you're watching a recording and the "advertisement" bit is set, then the fast-forward button stops working. And maybe if you're watching your favorite TV show, and an ad comes on, the channel buttons stop working. Channel surfing during the commercials is theft, you know! If you watch ER, you have an obligation to watch NBC's ads, and nobody else's programming!
Not true -- but thoroughly easy to implement in hardware once everything goes digital. And with the kind of interpretation that the DMCA gets, completely enforceable.
Heinlein references are good, but I've noticed that this discussion has a distinct lack of Sagan references. Didn't Sol Hadden get big on a gizmo for automatically skipping commercials?
I should mention that the further complication is that it's a Prisoner's Dilemma with hundreds of millions of players in this particular country, and voting is the 'defect' option.
No, those who vote choose representatives. Those representatives define the policy. And their policy is never to do any of the things they promise to do. And why should they? Really, there's no reason why they should. They're in the seat of power, and no matter how flagrantly they lie and abuse their power, it's almost certain they won't be removed.
Voting is the process in which people trade their power to affect the world for the "token" power of choosing representatives to betray them. In the words of Mr. Shatner, I can't get behind that.
In that it's exactly the same process, yes.
It's also rather similar to the process used to get hi-res photos of spacey objects. I wouldn't say it really stretches the definition that far at all.
It's not ext2 vs. ext3, it's old kernel vs. new kernel. ext2 will happily handle a terabyte or two, same as ext3; it's just a matter of whether your kernel/libc/app combination supports the "LARGEFILE" feature.
C'mon, aren't you up on your classic movies at all? It's a mental projection of his digital self, obviously!
True -- but it's less time spent fetching and installing dependencies, less time spent finding libraries on disk and loading them, and quite a bit less possibility for those nasty library version conflicts, which tend to increase exponentially in the number of libraries.
AIM already sends "capability" bits in buddy status notifications, and if a gaim plugin hijacked an unused one, it certainly wouldn't be the first. Once it does this, it should probably be possible to use the exact same hooks that AIM already uses to establish a direct connection for file transfer or IM, with a different "service type" or whatnot, and obviously without the dialog box asking if you want to make the connection, because of course the plugin assumes that if you installed and ran it, you want to use it. :)
I'm not sure how well abstracted the actual file transfer code in gaim is, but considering all the hoopla I remember about it going in, it's probably pretty well, so how hard could it be to hijack that, too? It seems to me that most of the pieces are already there. If C was my thing, I'd take a shot. I sure could use the cash.
Hey! You got P2P in my IM!
Hey! You got IM in my P2P!
Two great technologies that go great together!
I wouldn't say "the current status is subject to debate", I would say the current status is "Internet Explorer will cease to be to be distributed separately from the operating system", according to Microsoft.
I can German very well speak, hmm?
ha. ha. um. no?
filler because slashdot doesn't understand telling people off with a few words.
KMail deps:
Evolution deps:
Right. Its real failing is that it's so contrary to the laws of living on Earth that it never could exist for a moment. But that didn't stop a lot of people from trying.
I thought that pretty much all green pointers available today were still frequency-doubled DPSS, and that's why they're comparably so expensive?
Consider: the GPL is a tool designed to use copyright law to "defang" copyright. Yes, it introduces its own set of restrictions, but they are quite different from the "creator ownership" of modern copyright. There's a reason it gets called "copyleft".
:)
Perhaps it's just that people are against copyright when it's used to smother creativity, and more supportive of it when it's crammed back into its original role of fostering creativity. Or maybe slashdotters just like to rip off music. Doesn't matter that much to me. But I think that if you want to say that people are taking both sides of an issue, you should first look more closely at what the two sides are, and find out what they have in common that one person could believe in both of them. It's almost always instructive.