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Largest Digital Photograph in the World

thrill12 writes "Dutch research institute TNO has unveiled what it believes is the largest digital photograph in the world. The image contains 2.5 gigapixels or 7.5 gigabyte worth of data. It is composed of 600 single images shot by a computer-controlled pan-tilt unit in 7 second intervals. Afterwards, all photos where stiched together (compare: panorama tools) using the capacity of 5 high-end pc's in about 24 hours time."

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  1. The Big Picture by mfh · · Score: 1, Funny

    Dutch research institute TNO has unveiled what it believes is the largest digital photograph in the world.

    And now this image is slashdotted! I thought it was bad when some guy posted his high rez, true colour, photo album on Slashdot... but this is crazy! And how long is it going to take me to download that picture anyway? I've got 10 gigs kicking around here that would love to have that puppy!

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    1. Re:The Big Picture by kfg · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well, if the Pythagorians are right I'm looking out my window at the largest digital picture in the universe right now. I laugh at your 10 gigs as I contemplate an image that requires all of the fundamental particles to store, and that's before we even get into the issues of storage media geometry.

      Scrolling seems to be a bit of an issue though.

      KFG

    2. Re:The Big Picture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My gut-reaction was to download... then, I thought, maybe I should use up several gigabytes of my employer's badnwidth to download a picture I probably haven't enough memory to actually view...

      Pity.

    3. Re:The Big Picture by Oddly_Drac · · Score: 1

      "Scrolling seems to be a bit of an issue though."

      It's a camera model panning technique, which I believe is patented, although if you look around slow enough they might not catch you. The zoom facility is generally crap, though.

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  2. Coincidentally.... by trp642 · · Score: 1, Funny

    A new record for the hardest Slashdotting has been set as well...

  3. Wheres the torrent? by keeleysam · · Score: 2

    I wanna DL this, and 7.5 GIGS is DEFINTELY gonna /. a server.

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  4. Ok... by SansTinfoilHat · · Score: 1, Funny

    Where's the .torrent?

  5. Groan by hey · · Score: 4, Funny

    So now I suppose this is a new silly field that people will compete in. Every 6 months we'll have to hear about the latest largest digital image in the world. Maybe slashdot should make an icon... or maybe would should just ignore it.

    1. Re:Groan by Lord_Slepnir · · Score: 4, Funny

      If we ignore it, it won't go away. If we all click on it and try to download it....well, after this guys server catches on fire, he won't be doing any more of this for a while.

    2. Re:Groan by prell · · Score: 1

      I'm actually scared to click on the story link. I feel like once I do, my computer will grind to a halt immediately, I'll start crying, and then we'll both be stuck in hyperspace a la 2001.

    3. Re:Groan by mfender9 · · Score: 1
      Or we could go the other way... here's my crack at the smallest digital image in the world:

      .

    4. Re:Groan by Vicsun · · Score: 1

      It won't live long. Not with Gigapixel cameras, anyway.
      Frankly, I have to say I see the above exercise a waste in itself considering you can create a gigapixel photos without having to resort to stitching hundreds of photographs yourself.

    5. Re:Groan by Webmoth · · Score: 1

      So what you're saying is...
      If we ignore it, it won't go away. If we all click on it and try to download it... it will.

      Looks like it's already left the building.

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    6. Re:Groan by elwinc · · Score: 1

      The truth is that for decades, earth observing satellites have used pushbroom sensors. These sensors continuously sweep out an image, accumulating pixels 24/7, and some of them have up to eight wavebands (think "colors"). For example, Landsat 7 does 14 orbits per day, and takes 16 days to image the entire planet. Its view is 185km wide, with a combination of 15m and 30m pixels depending on the band. This works out to an image about 12000 pixels wide. To exceed the puny TNO 2.5 Gigapixel image, just accumulate a strip that's 208400 pixels (3125km) long. This is about a quarter of an orbit for the satellite, which happens in under 52 minutes (faster than the 70 minute TNO image). And as mentioned above, there are eight wavebands in the image, so it'll be well over 10 gigs.

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    7. Re:Groan by themaidtricks · · Score: 1

      If you look hard (i don't recommend it since the picture is so big) you can find lines where the clouds moved during the picture. If they had more than one camera, maybe it would have worked better. I think the camera probably moved top to bottom first.

    8. Re:Groan by dsoltesz · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I was disappointed to find the headline does not match the reality here - I was expecting to read about an eyepoppingly large CCD array. The "biggest digital photo" here is not by any stretch of the imagination the biggest, nor is it a "photo": it's a mosaic. And as digital image mosaics go, we're hosting bigger ones on our sites as a matter of everyday business practice. Want one huge single image? Try HiRISE collecting 20Kx40K (red band) in a short swipe (one image, longer swaths will be 70K lines long). A mosaic will break the farm - At 1.1+ billion pixels every 3 seconds (including blue-green and NIR), in 70 minutes, we're talkin' a pedabyte-and-a-half image mosaic... and more importantly, the subject will be far more interesting.

  6. And as a followup: by Opalima · · Score: 5, Funny

    They proudly introduce The World's Biggest Printer (and toner catridge)

    1. Re:And as a followup: by melandy · · Score: 1

      Don't worry, though. The printer will be free, but the toner will cost you!

  7. sigh by another+misanthrope · · Score: 5, Funny

    all those pixels and not one nipple! What a waste...

    1. Re:sigh by p4ul13 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Such a large picture, there very well *could* be a boobie out there somewhere. DL the whole image and check every window before you complain!! =)

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    2. Re:sigh by peterprior · · Score: 0

      I know.. think of goatse that size.. :|

    3. Re:sigh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      You need to zoom right in on the window just to the right of the church...

    4. Re:sigh by kfg · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well, they had originally gotten together intending to take the world's largest digital picture of a girl, but the plan fell through when it turned out that none of them knew one.

      KFG

    5. Re:sigh by ztirffritz · · Score: 1

      You just need to zoon in a bit. With that kind of resolution, I'm sure it caught one somewhere.

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    6. Re:sigh by IBeatUpNerds · · Score: 0

      You know, if we developed some kind of huge LCD to go along with these huge digital images, perhaps we could situate it somewhere in the desert to view from space. Then we could share some pr0n with our extraterrestrial friends. If anything, I'm guessing pr0n would finally get their attention.

    7. Re:sigh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hard to say if there are any unless you have studied the whole thing by zooming in at each place. For example, have you seen the golden arches in the photo? This is a real life Where's Waldo picture.

    8. Re:sigh by Infinityis · · Score: 0

      Yeah, isn't porn supposed to be the industry that always "leads the way" and breaks new ground in the digital world?

    9. Re:sigh by phsdv · · Score: 2, Informative

      yeah right, you are clearly not Dutch. Otherwise you would have known that there are no woman living in Delft. Like 99% of all students are male (technical university), and thats probably the same for people working at TNO.

    10. Re:sigh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      having lived in delft for years - my man you have no idea what it's like.. the male/female ratio there is something like 70/30 in the "critical" age group. i would not be surprised if the nipplepink count in all these goddam pixels turns out to be literally zero.

    11. Re:sigh by Cygnus78 · · Score: 1

      Actually there is a naked woman in the image !! Though it's only a statue.

    12. Re:sigh by permanentE · · Score: 1
      I found a nice pair!

      I uploaded it here

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  8. Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    How big would the thumbnail of this image be?

    1. Re:Wow by The+Other+White+Boy · · Score: 1

      540px by 217px, 38.25kb

  9. To enhance the slashdot effect even more... by leonmergen · · Score: 1, Funny
    ... here is a direct link to the picture... :)

    Pretty cool site, the Zoomify btw...

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  10. Can we take it again? by YetAnotherName · · Score: 4, Funny

    I blinked! Aw, man.

  11. After this, I can see the future.... by AndyBassTbn · · Score: 2, Funny

    ....and it involves needing a lot more storage for pr0n.

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  12. photo-op by bromoseltzer · · Score: 1, Funny

    Odd, I seem to see the same guy's face popping up in 600 places.

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    1. Re:photo-op by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      You found Waldo?

  13. Now we know by drachenfyre · · Score: 3, Funny

    About a week ago, an "Ask Slashdot" featured a question on high performance web serving. Now we know why.

  14. No! by kevcol · · Score: 1, Funny

    Not the week I am stuck on dial-up!

  15. Mirror by RaymondInFinland · · Score: 3, Informative

    (not a very fast, but currently still working) mirror here: http://spider007.net/ext/tweakers.net/niews_35069. html

    1. Re:Mirror by hansiboy · · Score: 1

      humm. You dident mirror the image... its usless iow.

  16. /. Effect by ObsessiveMathsFreak · · Score: 1

    Thank heaven for torrents!
    I'd hate to see this guys internet bill if he puts up a download link!

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  17. Disappointment. by slcdb · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I guess this guy is going to be somewhat disappointed when he hears about this.

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    1. Re:Disappointment. by j1mmy · · Score: 1

      yes, but he took a much more interesting picture.

    2. Re:Disappointment. by Stinky+Cheese+Man · · Score: 1

      I doubt that Max is that petty. After all, he is credited on the TNO web site as the maker of the first gigapixel image. Also, Max's PTAssembler software was used in the making of this picture.

  18. 5 high-end pc's in about 24 hours time by Threni · · Score: 1

    So...it'll be finished this time tomorrow? Or is the submitter simply pointing out that hours are a unit of time?

    1. Re:5 high-end pc's in about 24 hours time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Slashdot. Where no criticism is left unturned...

    2. Re:5 high-end pc's in about 24 hours time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      God, man, live a little... Sheesh...

  19. What a waste by PurdueGraphicsMan · · Score: 2, Interesting
    If I were going to invest the time and money into creating the world's largest photo, I believe I'd choose something a little more interesting than the boring skyline they chose. Why not do some planning and create a beautiful landscape photo or something that people would actually want to see.

    Eitherway, I can just see the MASSIVE, high resolution billboards now...

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    1. Re:What a waste by mikael · · Score: 1

      What about a Gigapixel image of the entire celestial sphere around the Earth? That would be really cool to pan around the entire sky and zoom in as far as possible.

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    2. Re:What a waste by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      try http://www.shatters.net/celestia/, you won't get a gigapixel (unless you do a bunch of screenshots, and stich them), but you can zoom as far as you want (and load some nearly gigapixel sized textures).

  20. Legit? by Piranhaa · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I don't know if its just me, but (600 pics * 7 second intervals) = (4200 / 60) = 70 minutes. Wouldn't the sun have changed position or changed its intensity in that ammount of time? I know within an hour where I live, the sun will have gone between clouds, start going down -- changing the intensity of where it is shining. I remember another article posted like this a while back, but it all seems kind of iffy to me....

    1. Re:Legit? by PoopJuggler · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If it was sufficiently overcast for that hour, the light would be so diffuse that it probably wouldnt matter much. You could easily correct it in Photoshop if you did happen to get a couple frames with more/less light.

    2. Re:Legit? by isecore · · Score: 1

      Not if you rig a shitload of cameras to all go off at the same time, and then stitch the result together.

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    3. Re:Legit? by Sandor+at+the+Zoo · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Wouldn't the sun have changed position or changed its intensity in that ammount of time?

      Yes. If you look carefully, you can find stitching seams, with clear lighting differences to either side.

      In the upper-right hand corner of the image, there are three beige buildings. Zoom way in to actually see them as buildings. :-) The one in the middle has a very clear seam near the left side of the building.

    4. Re:Legit? by tsunamifirestorm · · Score: 1

      If you look in the very lower part of the picture, on the sidewalk, i shows some of a person with an orange shirt covering up the head of a bicyclist. I'm actually surprised there wasn't more inconsistancies as the photo shows two different streets.

  21. Have these people nothing better to do? by Timesprout · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Seriously what is the point in monster photograph that only a handful of people will ever see in its 7.5 GB fullness. This is nothing more than a crappy PR stunt and Slashot is rapidly turning into advertising central.

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    1. Re:Have these people nothing better to do? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      PR and advertising for what exactly?
      What does the university gain from this?

    2. Re:Have these people nothing better to do? by phsdv · · Score: 1

      TNO != University

  22. Its NOT 2.5Mp... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They claim its 2.5Mp. Its closer to 2.3Mp.

    1. Re:Its NOT 2.5Mp... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      S/Mp/Gp/

  23. More Gigapixel images by TimSee · · Score: 1

    I stumbled across this link last year - this guy was basically doing the same kinds of things. See more at: http://www.tawbaware.com/maxlyons/gigapixel.htm

  24. Nikon made a bigger print from a 3 Megapixel Cam by micksterama · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I saw a huge billboard in Times Square Nikon made from a 3 Megapixel Coolpix camera. It was a shot of a dinosaur on a set, for Universal's Jurassic Park DVD launch back in 2000. This thing was like 45 x 65. Sounds like this image is much higher resolution, but if you're going to print it, you wouldn't see much of a difference at equal distances... Seems like a waste of a lot of pixel power just to make a point...

  25. Damn, this has got to be the next new format. by kabocox · · Score: 1

    I can just see porn folks saving all their images in at this rez. It would prevent copying of their data.

    Hard drive and RAM makers will love this as well. It will drive demand for larger disk drives and more RAM.

    1. Re:Damn, this has got to be the next new format. by Norgus · · Score: 1

      And monitor technology will have to completely change...

  26. file size limitation?!? by theMerovingian · · Score: 1, Interesting


    I work in remote sensing and GIS, and we make alot of seamless aerial photos (for multiple entire states).

    Unless I just totally missed the boat, Windows and Linux have a file size limitation of around 2 gigabytes. Therefore, my suspicion is that the images are stored in separate tiles that when viewed all at once make a large mosaic.

    If anyone knows of another way to store this much data all in one file, please enlighten me! The closest I've been able to come is storing all the image data in ArcSDE, a GIS product that allows you to store geospatial data inside an enterprise database.

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    1. Re:file size limitation?!? by B3ryllium · · Score: 1

      Got BFS?

    2. Re:file size limitation?!? by Cocoronixx · · Score: 1

      http://www.suse.de/~aj/linux_lfs.html
      Been in the stable kernel... for a while IIRC.

      The boat left a while ago ;)

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    3. Re:file size limitation?!? by watanabe · · Score: 1

      Unless I just totally missed the boat, Windows and Linux have a file size limitation of around 2 gigabytes.


      You just totally missed the boat. On Linux, ext2 has a 2 gig size limit, but ext3 and other modern filesystems don't have such a limit. I'm also fairly sure that Windows XP has no such limit on NTFS.


      Sounds like good news for you!


    4. Re:file size limitation?!? by farnz · · Score: 2, Informative
      You just totally missed the boat. FAT32 has a filesize limitation of 2GB, NTFS doesn't. Older Linux kernels limit you to 2GB/file, newer ones don't.

      On NTFS, ReiserFS and Ext3 (Windows 2k, and Linux 2.6), I've been able to store complete DVD-9 images (8GB or so).

    5. Re:file size limitation?!? by klaasvakie · · Score: 1

      ReiserFS can have up to 8Gb on 32bit systems, and even bigger on 64bit systems. The theoretical limit is 2^60 bytes.
      See the reiser faq.

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    6. Re:file size limitation?!? by deroby · · Score: 1

      Hmm, database file sizes are generally much bigger than just 2Gb, so I don't think this is an issue (anymore). Biggest I've worked with so far is ca 80Gb, but I guess the 'limit' is much higher.

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    7. Re:file size limitation?!? by theMerovingian · · Score: 1


      I'm not much of a linux operator, but I know for sure that XP chokes on a 2 or 3 gig image file!

      Will have to look into Linux again... :)

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    8. Re:file size limitation?!? by MyHair · · Score: 2, Informative

      Unless I just totally missed the boat, Windows and Linux have a file size limitation of around 2 gigabytes.

      Wha?

      You missed the boat. Various FAT filesystems may be limited to 2GB, but Linux and modern Windows have no such built in limits. Check on the individual filesystems. I know NTFS can go over 4GB; I think it's capable up to a few TB. ext2 may have some lesser limits but is well over 4GB. XFS, JFS and ReiserFS are worth a look.

    9. Re:file size limitation?!? by mapmaker · · Score: 2, Informative

      It's not a file size limitation that's causing the choke, it's the memory size limitation. 32-bit OSes can only handle 4 GB of RAM, so when you try to open an image that approaches that limit - blammo.

    10. Re:file size limitation?!? by isecore · · Score: 2, Insightful
      On Linux, ext2 has a 2 gig size limit, but ext3 and other modern filesystems don't have such a limit. I'm also fairly sure that Windows XP has no such limit on NTFS.


      Funny, I managed to store a 5 gig file on my old EXT2-based server just the other day. Really weird thing is I managed to retrieve it just fine as well! *gasp*

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    11. Re:file size limitation?!? by arodland · · Score: 1

      It's not ext2 vs. ext3, it's old kernel vs. new kernel. ext2 will happily handle a terabyte or two, same as ext3; it's just a matter of whether your kernel/libc/app combination supports the "LARGEFILE" feature.

    12. Re:file size limitation?!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're partially correct. XP chokes on such a large file when you're using Fat32. NTFS doesn't have that limitation.

    13. Re:file size limitation?!? by Jucius+Maximus · · Score: 1
      "I'm also fairly sure that Windows XP has no such limit on NTFS."

      Yeah the 4GB limit applies for FAT32 but not NTFS, whose filesize limit is something like 2 TB.

    14. Re:file size limitation?!? by qodfathr · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually, it's a limitation of the image program the person is using. Win2K and it's offspring (XP) can make use of lots of address space (read: >4GB). But, it's neither easy nor automatic. The OS will 'automatically' let each process have up to 4GB of address space (well, 2GB by default and 3GB with the right switches so the OS can have the other 1GB for its uses) (and you cannot allocate one contiguous 3GB block due to some, um, old issues), but using AWE (Address Windowing Extensions), you can basically augment your program with a paging mechanism which will give you 64-bit addressing. (But you need to page in and out of thar 64-bit space into your process' 32-bit space.) Oh, and if you want to access more RAM than 4GB from a single process, you'd need to use PAE (if your system supports it).

      Read Raymond Chen's August 2004 blog entries (http://weblogs.asp.net/oldnewthing/archive/2004/0 8.aspx) if you really care about any of this.

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  27. Cheating by zaktheduck · · Score: 1, Interesting

    2.5 gigapixel pictures? We're still a long way off from having digital cameras that can pull this sort of thing off in one shot, rather than stitching one together from composites.

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  28. Re:Nikon made a bigger print from a 3 Megapixel Ca by micksterama · · Score: 1

    That was 45 feet by 65 feet (sorry left that out!)

  29. In case of slashdotting by the+quick+brown+fox · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'll save you guys the suspense: It's a closeup of Tara Reid's boob.

    1. Re:In case of slashdotting by advocate_one · · Score: 1

      she should sue that surgeon for such a botch job...

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  30. My house by McWilde · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I got there before the slashdotting. I can almost see my house in the picture. I live about 12 km away from where the picture was taken from (by bike, so probably about 10 km as the photon flies). Actually my house is tucked away behind some taller building, but you can easily count the windows on the new Ministry of Education that is just a bit farther down the road.

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    1. Re:My house by troc · · Score: 1

      Yeah I think my house is visible too. I live in one of the (now-converted) old University buildings in the town centre :)

      Troc

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    2. Re:My house by troc · · Score: 1

      Hmm, I can also see where I work (European Patent Office main tower is visible in the background)

      Troc

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  31. Bah... by flimflam · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm much more impressed by this.

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    1. Re:Bah... by Lynx0 · · Score: 1

      And you only have to stitch four of those to get an even larger world's biggest picture!

    2. Re:Bah... by dJCL · · Score: 0, Redundant

      Wow...

      That link is amazing...

      They have a Gigapixel setup, and they like to take artistic pictures... way better then a random skyline.

      Just view the image gallery... The first shot looks like anything you would get on todays digitals... Then they zoom in to read the small text on a wall 100 yards away!!!

      And I thought it took patience to wait for a 16Meg SLR to be consumer priced, this will take forever...

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    3. Re:Bah... by Speare · · Score: 1

      Amen. Max Lyons and the Gigapxl folks are at least choosing photographic subjects which BENEFIT from the high resolution treatment. And they have pride in craftsmanship to develop the image as artwork, not as a techno-novelty.

      The camera-on-a-tower shot of this research institute hasn't even been hand-corrected in the places where moving objects were affected. They even point out these flaws on the website like it's a cool feature or something: "here's a bus that was clipped between two successive frames." Bah. Edit those OUT. Fix the clocks to agree if they're prominent, or shadow them out. Shoot in an order that will minimize the moving-shadow issues. Make it WORK as a single capture piece of ART, even though the capture had to be done with many exposures.

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    4. Re:Bah... by floateyedumpi · · Score: 1

      I find it interesting that the film-scanner crowd can claim increasingly large gigapixel images just by upping their scan resolution. At some point, your scan has resolved the film grain, and you are gaining no new information, just justifying your RAID array. They could scan their same filmstock at .5 microns and claim 100 GigaPixel images. It's not just the number of pixels, but what information they contain.

      Impressive work, but if you are going to claim multi-gigapixel status, you need to back it up by clearly stating the inherent resolution limits in the film (which, in their case, are very high, but not unlimited).

    5. Re:Bah... by phsdv · · Score: 2, Informative
      No film scanner used here. This photo was taken with a Digital camera, the Nikon D1.

      And scanning grain is already possible. The newest 4000DPI scanners very often have a grain reduction function...

    6. Re:Bah... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would like to zoom in on the beach on this image.

    7. Re:Bah... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, you can see grain in a fine transpency film at 4000 dpi. However, these guys are scanning something a bit bigger than a standard 35mm negative - it's around 9 x 18 INCHES!

  32. Fact: The Dutch are weird. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    For all the stories about them, a bunch of EE's get together and the take a picture of ugly buildings?

    Then if these were the EE's I knew in college, that would have been the most detailed gynecological ever. They were mad for the hi-res porn.

  33. Yeah, yeah... by dwalsh · · Score: 1, Funny

    ... let me know when they incorporate this resolution into a mobile phone with a crappy lens.

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  34. For all non-photo geeks out there by xThinkx · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'd like to take this time to point out the lunacy of the 'megapixel' ratings for cameras

    A number determined from the multiplication of length and width in pixels of an image has about as much to do with the quality of a picture as the size of your passenger cabin has to do with the speed of your car. Yes, you can print larger pictures without seeing pixels if you have a higher megapixel count, but chances are it's not the resolution of your photos that you'll notice.

    A major factor in the quality of any image is the quality of the optics used to take it. That means the lens, the glass used to focus and point the image onto the sensor. Quality glass, such as low dispersion glass (I'm preferential to Canon's "L" glass) will create images with sharp edges, crisp focus, and good bokeh. Use cheap glass and you'll get the opposite. Effects like soft focus, purple halos, light leaking, and distortion will all still be present if you use poor optics, no matter what the MP rating. I wonder how many people have upgraded from a 3 mp to a 4, 6, or 8 mp camera and still found lackluster results.

    My point, a camera has many more features that determine quality than just the megapixel rating, when you choose one, consider these as well and you'll be happier. And here's a plug, dpreview.com does some awesome camera reviews (I'm in no way affiliated with them).

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    1. Re:For all non-photo geeks out there by Raven42rac · · Score: 1

      What is your point? We already knew this.

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    2. Re:For all non-photo geeks out there by PeteDotNu · · Score: 0

      Absolutely. My first digital was a HP with about 2 megapixels, and the image was inferior to a Fuji with 1 megapixel as the lens was so shoddy. The interfacing software was impressive, but that's a result of HP's experience in computer peripherals, not in photography.

      Nowadays I have a Pentax. Nice lens, but marginally inferior user interface. Very pleased with the photographs that it takes.

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    3. Re:For all non-photo geeks out there by PoopJuggler · · Score: 0

      "Low dispersion glass" doesn't have nearly the marketing power as "5 MEGApixel HIGH resolution!"

      Besides, people need something with a number in it so they can feel superior to their neighbor who bought a camera with a smaller number...

    4. Re:For all non-photo geeks out there by Twanfox · · Score: 2, Informative

      It isn't lunacy.

      With optical cameras, the resolution and clarity of the image is more influenced by the optics (lens, etc) than the film, because the film is capable of storing an obscene resolution. A cheap little disposable camera is capable of having that same picture printed at 3"x4" or 8"x10", and the only thing that influences it is the optics that were used as to how clear that image is.

      For digital cameras, the optics are not nearly as critical in defining the quality of image as the CCD is (photoreceptors). If the best you can do is 2.0 megapixels for top image size of the camera, the best you'll be able to print out with clarity is probably like 3"x4". However, if you take a camera capable of doing 5.2 megapixels, you can turn right around and print out that image at 8"x10" without loss in quality.

      While optics do play a role in how clear the image is, if the photoreceptors are incapable of recording the resolution you're seeking for high quality, optics cease being the defining characteristic.

    5. Re:For all non-photo geeks out there by pete.com · · Score: 0

      Megapixal myth continued...... Another consideration is the size of the sensors in digital cameras. These new (non DSLR) 8 MP cameras have tiny sensors, with tiny photo cells. The older 4 MP Canon 1D with a sensor size 28.7mm x 19.1mm, with 1/2 the sensors but much larger photo cells nets much better images. A good analogy is you have 8 million shot glasses filled with water and 4 million 5 gallon buckets filled with water. Which hold more water?

    6. Re:For all non-photo geeks out there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Surely there must be some objective way to measure the true resolution? For example, take a picture of grids of closely spaced lines at a specific distance and determine how close they can get before you can no longer distinguish them. Do manufacturers provide enough information to determine this? If not, aren't their advertisements misleading, and why don't consumers demand this information? Is there an industry standard for this? Perhaps someone who is an expert out there has an answer.

    7. Re:For all non-photo geeks out there by abaybas · · Score: 0

      Well his point was that if you don't have a good lens, then it doesn't matter how many MPs your camera has because the lens can not produce the detail your CCD can capture. Just having a good lens, or just having a high MP camera doesn't mean you get the best results. The parent's complaint was these days everyone talks about MPs and nobody cares about the optics.

    8. Re:For all non-photo geeks out there by loraksus · · Score: 1

      Yeah, for the most part that is true, but your average cell phone camera is 640x480 - so was the mars lander (rover?) had a camera with the same resolution. Optics do make a difference, a crappy plastic lens will make a really crappy picture regardless of the ccd behind it.

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    9. Re:For all non-photo geeks out there by WNight · · Score: 2, Informative

      They do this. Go to www.dpreview.com and read a review. They take pictures of test charts and show you pictures of how the camera handles very fine lines getting smaller and smaller. This is where you get color fringing, moire, bluriness, and artifacts as the camera tries to get some data out of the mess.

    10. Re:For all non-photo geeks out there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree. Although I don't have much experience with still cameras, I use video cameras, and much to the same extent can be said for these. For various purposes I use a Sony DXC-3000A studio camera (large and old monster, about 18 years old), a Sony VX-2000 (they call it a prosumer model, but it's still consumer level to me, and the PD-150 is no different except that it has more audio channels and uses DVCAM) and a Sony Handycam which I forget the model number for. The old, kludgy DXC-3000A beats all of them hands down, despite being old, and having a lower resolution. That's right lower resolution on a VIDEO CAMERA. My iSight has higher resolution than this sucker. However, it has a good lens, and the CCDs used in it has overall better color. The VX-2000 actually comes close, the CCD and resolution are actually BETTER than the DXC-3000A, and the lens is pretty nice for a prosumer model, but it still can't beat it. The Handycam is... well, really great for shooting when I'm on a snowboard, and don't want to worry about destroying the cam.

      I still don't have any experience with the new prosumer high definition cameras, but I suspect that in many cases the VX-2000 will look better, and even the DXC-3000A will look better. It's sort of like the CD vs Vinyl deal. I personally enjoy CDs, but I understand that the "warmth" of the subtle distortion of vinyl can sound better. Sometimes you WANT that slightly blurred look or sound, to disguise the fact that the medium sorta sucks in the first place.

    11. Re:For all non-photo geeks out there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Aren't we just saying that the CCD resolution puts an upper limit on the image quality, and the lens puts an upper limit on the image quality? Whichever upper limit is lower will decide the result.

      In my experience most digital cameras made by traditional camera manufacturers (Canon, Nikon, etc.) will have pretty decent glass in them. In those cameras you will see a big difference going from 1 Mpixel to 3 and beyond. Cameras made by computer manufacturers or those integrated into cellphones might have lower lens quality so there is less benefit from higher pixel counts with those cameras.

    12. Re:For all non-photo geeks out there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How do you get light leak without using film? As far as the amateur photographer in myself knows, that has nothing to do with optics... or digital photography.

    13. Re:For all non-photo geeks out there by Twanfox · · Score: 1

      Eventually, when CCD resolution becomes very high and reliable, then optics will wind up being more important and talked about. Right now, digital photography is still developing, and CCDs vary quite a bit from low end to high end.

      It's also generally assumed that if you pay the money for the better CCD/resolution digital camera, you also get better optics. So far as I've seen, this holds true (ie: Sony's 8 mpixel camera with large/elaborate lenses).

    14. Re:For all non-photo geeks out there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mod parent down. -1 Arrogant.

    15. Re:For all non-photo geeks out there by Raven42rac · · Score: 1

      My post, or my post's parent? We didn't need "megapixel vs camera optics 101".

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    16. Re:For all non-photo geeks out there by randomblast · · Score: 1

      Well I don't know... is that an Irish or European shot?

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    17. Re:For all non-photo geeks out there by pete.com · · Score: 0

      That is a trick question..... Irish shots are 5 gallon buckets.

    18. Re:For all non-photo geeks out there by sahonen · · Score: 1

      Amen! I work as a television cameraman, and can attest that no matter how good your camera is, it's useless without a good lens on the front.

      A good HD lens for sports will run you about $1-200,000, and it's worth every penny. We're talking about enough zoom power to go tight on someone's face from a hundred yards away while still resolving effective HD resolution. That takes an unbelievable amount of precision in its manufacture.

      One of my favorite TV stories is about a camera behind the plate at a baseball venue. Foul tip, ball smashes straight into the lens. They plonk down a hundred grand for another one. Next game, same thing happens.

      Nowadays, they have someone else put a camera there and take a feed from them. =D

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  35. If I want to see Delft... by mrjb · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...I'll look out of the window. Sure takes less time than downloading the image!

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    1. Re:If I want to see Delft... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And the resolution is even better...

    2. Re:If I want to see Delft... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That doesn't work for me you insensitive clod!

  36. Largest image? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.kortal.dk/ is a database of aerial photographs covering all 43.000 sq. km. of Denmark, at ca. 40 cm resolution. That would be around 270 GPixels. I'm sure there are larger civil and military databases around (think satellite imagery).

    1. Re:Largest image? by phsdv · · Score: 1

      databases yes, but as a single image? Can they print this out, or send as a single tiff file?

  37. here we go again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Afterwards, the single photo was uploaded to their webserver and slashdotted in about .00023871 seconds time.

  38. SDSS may have them beat by hildaur · · Score: 1

    Depending on what you consider a "single picture," I think SDSS (see http://sdss.org/) has them beat. SDSS scans aren't generally stored in a single file, but they are taken in a single exposure (sort of; see http://www.sdss.org/dr3/instruments for more information on drift scanning), and have vastly more pixels than the one presented in the article. The pixels are stored in many files for convenience, but I think it unreasonable to claim that a stripe is not a single picture, but that a single file constructed by stitching together many files is.

    If having all the pixels stitched together, but not in a single file, is enough for it to be considered a single image, an argument can be made that the entire survey is a single picture!

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  39. First stitching, then tiling by wwwillem · · Score: 4, Interesting

    In a way, this is funny. The best way to handle huge images is by tiling them. I like to play around with maps and satellite images (see here with and without grid) and have learned the lesson that to put that type of large images on a web server, you better cut it into tiles.

    Flash based zoom/pan/tilt viewers do the same thing. A bit more advanced, but you download only the part that is currently in view. Even when you open a PDF in your browser, just the page in view is downloaded. And think about those huge video walls.

    So, the funny part is now that you take many, many pictures, then use a lot of processing to stitch the results together, and then cut it into tiles again to display the resulting image. Wouldn't it make more sense to put some more effort in that robotic camera control device and make that so accurate that it can take the pictures, still touching, but with zero overlap? That would be cool!! I suspect that making the high precision optics for such a camera would be really, really expensive. Which is probably why TNO did it the way they did.

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    1. Re:First stitching, then tiling by GigsVT · · Score: 1

      MrSID and JPEG 2000 support very advanced tiling of very high res images in the format itself.

      It's often used for geological data, etc, where you have very large images.

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    2. Re:First stitching, then tiling by Dracolytch · · Score: 1

      As cool as it would be to create a large-format picture like this using a camera with zero overlap, it's impossible.

      Very simply: When you're putting multiple images like this together, you quickly become aware that the images you take do not form a flat surface. Because your camera is located at a single point, and is then rotated in multiple axes, a complete sweep of all pictures in all directions would form a sphere made of rectangles. Think of it like an inside-out disco ball.

      This means, for most large-format pictures, part of the process of turning your output into a rectangle is to flatten a section of a sphere (which results in a loss of image data). In some cases, you can try to preserve all of the image data, and end up with curved images (A couple mars rover photos are like this). Either way however, You need some overlap to cover the sections of the image that would otherwise be lost in the differences between the rectangular photograph, and the curve.

      Now, if there were a way to move the camera laterally, it would be quite possible to do what you're interested in. Reasonable for macro images, or microscopic reconstruction. Not reasonable for grand vistas.

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    3. Re:First stitching, then tiling by Karma+Farmer · · Score: 1

      The best way to handle huge images is by tiling them. I like to play around with maps and satellite images (see here with and without grid) and have learned the lesson that to put that type of large images on a web server, you better cut it into tiles.

      Umm... why? How do the tiles benefit the web server or the browser? I know some of the reasons for doing that 10 years ago, but I'm not aware of any reasons that are still valid today.

      At any rate, the "stitching" they're talking about in the article is quite a bit more than simply tiling all the photos in a table and digitally pasting them together. Eliminating the "overlap" is the easy part. It's true that you have to deal with optical distortions and color corrections and light balance and moving objects, all introduced by physical limitations of the camera and photography techniques, and which could be eliminated by better robotic control and optics and colectors. But you also get to deal with distortions introduced by plain old mathematics and geometry. They're similar in spirit to the map projections you learned about in third grade, but more compuationally complex (even if not more mathematically complex).

    4. Re:First stitching, then tiling by wwwillem · · Score: 1

      How do the tiles benefit the web server or the browser?

      Well, you see it with this TNO example. People downloading 7.5 GB images doesn't really work. So by tiling the image, you can build (takes only a little bit of JavaScript) a browser app that allows users to scroll through the whole image. Each time you scroll, you only have to download a couple new tiles.

      If you go to the satellite map of Holland I mentioned before, and then click somewhere on the map, you see what I mean. Click the arrows around the window to scroll/pan.

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    5. Re:First stitching, then tiling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't think what you suggest is possable in the general case. The problem is that a Picture is _flat_ and the world is not. If you were to print the photo on the inside of a sphere then you could do without the sitching software but if you want a flat print then the image must be warpped or "projected" and I think the required projection depends on the "tilt" of the camera. Exposure is another issue. One side might have more light and require different exposure, the "seem" would then show if you could not blend the overlapped areas.

      Peole have come close to what you suggest with film. Some panoramma camera use "scan" the image onto a long roll of film with a moving lens

      You wrote:

      Wouldn't it make more sense to put some more effort in that robotic camera control device and make that so accurate that it can take the pictures, still touching, but with zero overlap? That would be cool!! I suspect that making the high precision optics for such a camera would be really, really expensive.

    6. Re:First stitching, then tiling by slim · · Score: 1

      People have come close to what you suggest with film. Some panoramma camera use "scan" the image onto a long roll of film with a moving lens ... and others have "scanned" the world with
      modified hand scanner..

  40. Hrm by Auckerman · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This really is stretching the definition of a photograph. It would be trivial (in the sense the process is already know) to top this by using a camcorder(s) to capture the data, moving the images to 3-d space then projecting the image to 2-D. It would take a bit of CPU time, but it would be just as much of a photo as this is.

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    1. Re:Hrm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This really is stretching the definition of a photograph.

      Exactly, what about the really large image over at the Terra Server that you can access one piece at a time and pan through at your leisure.

    2. Re:Hrm by arodland · · Score: 1

      In that it's exactly the same process, yes.
      It's also rather similar to the process used to get hi-res photos of spacey objects. I wouldn't say it really stretches the definition that far at all.

  41. Turning??? TURNING?!?!? You must be new here. by doublem · · Score: 1

    and Slashot is rapidly turning into advertising central.

    Turning????

    Look at this "Article" and me (Looking at ThinkGeek's rank as one of the Slashdot Sponsors) that /. isn't all about the ads.

    And yes, I went that far back because it was the first example I thought of. Search /. for "IPod" or "MP3 Player" and you'll get another batch of examples.

    By the way, I'm too lasy to look up the /. follow up story about the work Thinkgeek did to survive the /.otting they got as a result of their first ad on the site.

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  42. But the real question... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...is when Apple will upgrade the photo iPod to accomodate this.

  43. Two birds, one stone by wondermog · · Score: 1, Funny

    Why not make the icon 7.6 Gigs?

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  44. Um, no. by mapmaker · · Score: 4, Informative
    It would appear these people have never heard of aerial photography. Here at my job (local DC government) we work with a digital aerial orthophotograph of Washington DC that is over 20 gigapixels in size.

    It's true that the file size of our imagery is smaller than theirs, as we use Mr. Sid format for better compression, but our pixel count leaves them in the dust.

    I don't believe this image is in any way extraordinary or special - pretty much every local government across the country maintains digital imagery of their jurisdiction that is comparible in resolution.

    1. Re:Um, no. by Killjoy_NL · · Score: 1

      Meh... silly american, can't take it that something in a small cute country like the Netherlands is bigger than in the USoA ?

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    2. Re:Um, no. by dave420 · · Score: 1

      But was it taken on a digital camera, or on regular film and then digitally scanned in? This is a 100% digital creation, with no analog processing involved at all. Of course larger pictures exist out there - we're not talking about ridiculously massive amounts of data here :)

    3. Re:Um, no. by mapmaker · · Score: 2, Informative
      Yes, aerial orthophotography is pretty much always taken with digital cameras nowadays. It's a 100% digital process.

      But now that I've RTFA, I see that they are claiming to have the largest digital panoramic photo in the world. The poster overstated their claim.

      Adding that qualifier in makes their claim more plausible, but also less noteworthy.

    4. Re:Um, no. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I see you 20 gigapixel mr.sid and raise you a 60 gigapixel ecw image of New Zealands North Island. :-)

  45. Never mind ./ing the servers... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Imagine what'll happen to my HP Photosmart when I try to print this sucker!

    Can anyone lend me some paper? I need...oh...say a few crates or so.

  46. This just in... by GatorMan · · Score: 1

    Dutch research institute TNO has unveiled what it believes is the largest hosting bill in the world!

    1. Re:This just in... by elal1862 · · Score: 1

      Nah, they'll just host it at the Delft university and let the taxpayer bleed for an extra gigbit pipe >:-)

  47. New Title: by SnapShot · · Score: 5, Funny

    Let's rewrite that intro shall we?

    Most Boring Picture Ever Taken

    Dutch research institute TNO has unveiled what it believes is the most boring picture ever taken. The image contains 2.5 gigapixels or 7.5 gigabyte worth of pictures of the roof of some office park. It is composed of 600 single images shot by a computer-controlled pan-tilt unit that was incapable of actually viewing anything of any interest to anyone. Afterwards, all photos where stiched together using the capacity of 5 high-end pc's in about 24 hours time. Three graduate students died of boredom; services will be held somewhere exciting, like a morgue. Never have so many, downloaded so much, for so little...

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    1. Re:New Title: by planckscale · · Score: 1
      Yeah the best part was the tagger who spay-painted his name "Coder" on one of the buildings.

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    2. Re:New Title: by DavidHumus · · Score: 1
      That's what happens with technology for technology's sake.

      OTOH, this guy (Clifford Ross) http://marshallbrain.blogspot.com/2004_06_01_marsh allbrain_archive.html built himself a gigapixel camera because he saw a beautiful view he wanted to share. He was impressed with the beauty of Colorado mountains but unimpressed by his pictures of them.

      OK, it's not digital but the results are far more impressive than building roofs. I've seen the picture - it's pretty amazing and pretty as well.

      Some more details are here: http://www.anandtech.com/news/shownews.aspx?i=2225 2.

    3. Re:New Title: by LesPaul75 · · Score: 1

      Waltz, nymph, for quick jigs vex Bud.

      It has two i's and two u's. Come on, we deserved better. What about:

      Waltz, nymph, for quick jugs vex Bud?

      Then only one letter is repeated (u) but it's repeated twice. Plus, a nymph with "jugs" is sexier than a nymph doing "jigs." :)

    4. Re:New Title: by johannesg · · Score: 1
      Sorry, but you have to realize that this is what the Netherlands really looks like. Well, not of all of it - we also have green fluffy bits, but since the country is so incredibly flat there are not too many high enough places to put your camera to make a picture like this, so that limited their options.

      Having said that, I don't know why they didn't take their contraption to the Euromast where they could at least have taken a half-way decent picture of the Rotterdam harbor area...

    5. Re:New Title: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, you could just drop it into photoshop and put some things in there.

      Has anybody found Waldo yet?

  48. Other superlatives by jyoull · · Score: 1

    also it is apparently the slowest digital photograph in the world!

  49. Why? by Sindri · · Score: 1

    His is just about the same idea and he got it first.

    1. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Except, his picture is interesting to look at.

    2. Re:Why? by slcdb · · Score: 1

      Yes, but now he can no longer claim to hold the record. Now he'll have to spend weeks making a 10 gigapixel image :)

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  50. ok by AbsurdProverb · · Score: 0

    7.5 gigs? This better be some quality porn

  51. Meet Mr Floaty-head by dJOEK · · Score: 1

    this guy has a bit of bad luck

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  52. erm, how about this one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.earthetc.com/ecwearth/asps/ecwearth_fra me.asp?Image=geodetic/world/landsat742

  53. Similar earlier /. story: by GillBates0 · · Score: 1

    Breaking the Gigapixel Barrier
    Posted by michael on Tuesday December 02, @05:06PM
    from the sweetness dept.
    megas writes "Max Lyons has just posted on his site what seems to be the first 1 Gigapixel picture, created from 196 separate photographs taken with a 6 megapixel digital camera, and then stitched together into one seamless composite. According to Max, he has 'been unable to find any record of a higher resolution photographic (i.e. non-scientific) digital image that has been created without resizing a smaller, lower resolution image or using an interpolated image.'"

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  54. 11.3 Gpixel in my research lab by VDM · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I know it's risky (risk of slashdotting, of course...), however among the things I do for research there are also the so-called "digital slides", which are digital copies of pathology glass slides. We acquire them with a motorised microscope, at 40x magnification, which means about 0.3 micron/pixel. The maximum area acquired was about 21x45 mm, for a total of 28340 images, each one is 699x572 pixel (analog camera). This corresponds to about 11.3 Gpixels. Usually we remain well under this value, but anyway around 1-2 Gpixel on average.
    Please be very kind with our test server: http://www.telemed.uniud.it/eslides/.
    (anyway, I never thought this kind of things could become a news item).

    1. Re:11.3 Gpixel in my research lab by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, I was just going to chime in about pathology slide imaging. I worked with a company doing the same thing and our full-slide images were roughly the size you describe.

      And, unlike TNO, we even had lots of pictures of breasts! (Well, breast tissue.)

    2. Re:11.3 Gpixel in my research lab by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I know it's risky (risk of slashdotting, of course...)"

      I think you're safe.

    3. Re:11.3 Gpixel in my research lab by Kurt+Gray · · Score: 1

      I like the interface. It's nice to see a cursor box highlighted the area you are zoomed into.

  55. don't know why... by JaJ_D · · Score: 1

    ... but viewing over the web, and it somehow loses the quality :-]

  56. MOD THIS DOWN. by hummassa · · Score: 1

    There is no 2GB file size limit in linux for a long time, and I think NTFS also has a big max file size (64TB or so).

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  57. Re:WTF?!?!?!? by myom · · Score: 1

    You know, some people are Millhouses and some people are Barts.

  58. Download the picture? by Nemesis099 · · Score: 0

    So where is the link to the picture so he can have people downloading for days?

  59. Was I the only one? by IdJit · · Score: 2, Funny

    Okay, is it just me or was anyone else totally expecting to see a 2.5 gigapixel image of goat.se?

    Just when I though /. was becoming predictable they go and pull a fast one...

    1. Re:Was I the only one? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's a goat in Sweden?

  60. Viewing Massive Digital Images by X-101 · · Score: 1

    Those of you with massive digital images might be interested in the IIPImage system for viewing large images over the web: http://iipimage.sourceforge.net/

    There's an impressive demo with an image of (only) 3.6GB: http://iipimage.sourceforge.net/IIPDemo.html

  61. My Canon kicks ass. by itomato · · Score: 1

    Not only because of its optics, but because the improvement in image quality I have with the pictures having nearly four times the resolution of my old camera.

    More pixels with bad optics might mean more pixels to render noise, but I didn't upgrade my camera because of extreme artifacting or light noise.

    I wanted more bits per flick. The benefit of buying a (just widely dropped to $199) Canon PowerShot A75 is not only the ass-kicking feature set, but because they use higher quality components - plastic, glass, paper, cardboard, etc., than some other manufacturers that have a 3.2 or 4MP camera for equal or less money.

    Birds like shiny things, Joe and Joann Consumer like quick, flashy numbers.

    "Just like a 'megahurt', but 'pixel' is so much more fun to say?! Don't you think Honey?"

    It's how they shop - and if they're smart, they also look beyond the number and consider what's inside their purchase. The old adage applies well to digital cameras - 'buy the one that costs 1/3 again more than you want to spend' to get a higher quality product, that you're likely to be more satisfied with.

  62. not impressed. by sxtxixtxcxh · · Score: 5, Interesting

    i made the largest baby photo using 2500 digital photos each one at least 4.0megapixels in size and some as large as 6 megapixels.

    exposure started june 2002 and ended early november 2003.

    i used MacOSaiX to put it together on a two year old powerbook, and it took about 12 hours.

    it's not seemless, but the mosaic effect is cool.

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    1. Re:not impressed. by Speare · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Pardon me for bursting your bubble, but...

      If you can point a piece of software you downloaded or bought at a directory full of snapshots, and get a mosaic of another snapshot, how is that particularly interesting? You don't even say what the actual image resolution is in your final, and your image has duplicates because your library wasn't big enough.

      Max Lyons created new tools to develop image files that large. He selected a subject which benefitted from his technique. He hand-shot the images with the final project in mind. He found a printer who would show his print at a large scale, not just a 20"x30" you can upload to ezprints.com.

      The Gigapixl film folks are using a camera to its fullest potential, carefully choosing subjects which, again, benefit from the capability.

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    2. Re:not impressed. by sxtxixtxcxh · · Score: 1
      :P you're probably right, i guess my title was misleading and was mostly in jest.

      i actually love stitched photos. even before this digital photographic revolution (though analog photo mosaic/stitched panoramics are arguably more impressive mostly because of the amount of work involved).

      anyway, the duplicate files are treated as separate images in my mosaic, so it add to the actual filesize. essentially the program opened each full size picture, did some matching and pllaced the photo.

      very comp. intensive work to open 2.8 gigabytes of photos and process them. unfortunately, i didn't export a full size version. i just wanted an 8x10 print.

      i don't actually know how big it potentially could be. let's do the math: 50 images vertical and 50 horizontal arranged on a grid w/a 3:4 aspect ratio. given each source photo is (at least) 1200x1600 they'd be cropped to 900x1600 to fit in the grid. 2500*(900*1600) = 3,600,000,000 or 3.6 gigapixels.

      you have to admit, it's one hell of a baby picture :) and i admit its not quite in the same arena as TFA.

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  64. You missed the boat. by BeowulfSchaeffer · · Score: 1

    http://www.novell.com/documentation/suse91/suselin ux-adminguide/html/apas04.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_file_sy stems And I would hardly call what ESRI uses to store data, MSAccess, an "enterprise database".

    1. Re:You missed the boat. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://www.esri.com/software/arcgis/arcsde/

  65. Who cares by BobPaul · · Score: 1

    This was cool the first time we saw it and, while not an exact dupe, this is just a group of people doing exactly what Max already did... only this time it's 2.5gigapixes instead of just 1 gigapixel.

    Are we going to keep posting every time someone takes a 2.5megapixel camera and stiches the results together into an even higher resolution print?

  66. and the thumbnail is by advocate_one · · Score: 0, Redundant

    how big in megs???

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  67. lemme guess... by jpellino · · Score: 1

    its a jennicam shot?

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  68. Re:Nikon made a bigger print from a 3 Megapixel Ca by empaler · · Score: 1

    It might also be because you can then do cool stuff, like zooming in on windows, or streets, or faraway clouds... erm, or, er... buildings...

  69. Internal Pan/Tilt Image Sensor by sprocks · · Score: 1

    When are they going to put micro-positioning mechanics on the image sensor in a digital camera. You could specify the area you want to photograph and let the camera take the necessary shots. It get's stitched back together and you have a shot much larger than what the sensor alone can take.

    I suppose you might need some inertial sensors to track any movement but that could also remove any blur. You would also need some pretty good optics.

    Just a thought ... it's going to happen.

  70. Server Slashdotted by Alien54 · · Score: 1, Insightful
    that's what they get for linking directly to the graphic in question. [insert smile] How many guys have the time to download the image?

    10 to 30 hours on a functional high speed line on a good day

    50 to 60 days for you folks still on dialup

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    1. Re:Server Slashdotted by itwerx · · Score: 1

      How many guys have the time to download the image?

      Those that have a couple OC3's at our disposal.

      (The image host apparently doesn't though! [smirk] :)

  71. BFD by Saeed+al-Sahaf · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Is the "so what" factor lost on anybody? If I stand in one spot and move slightly, snapping a shot each time I twitch, I bet I can photoshop it all together an top this. But really, who cares? It's NOT one picture taken with some fabulous technology; it's just a some art piece.

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  72. Well, where is it? by DrEldarion · · Score: 1

    Torrent please.

  73. Ummm, no by ZanshinWedge · · Score: 1

    The Sloan Digital Sky Survey. 8,216 square degrees imaged and over 6 terabytes of data collected to date, and counting.

    1. Re:Ummm, no by Snags · · Score: 1

      And also Terraserver? Over a terabyte of images of terra firma.

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  74. big woop by objectboy · · Score: 1

    The company I work for takes images that size and bigger on a daily basis...

    'course we do it from space :)

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  75. Ho hum by John+Garvin · · Score: 1

    That's fascinating. So what is it a picture of?

    You know you're reading "News for Nerds" when the most exciting aspect of a photo is the number of pixels.

  76. Canon-L fanboys who know nothing of optics by SuperBanana · · Score: 3, Informative
    Quality glass, such as low dispersion glass (I'm preferential to Canon's "L" glass) will create images with sharp edges, crisp focus, and good bokeh. Use cheap glass and you'll get the opposite.

    Bokeh comes from the number of aperture leaves and their shape(there are some non-straight-edged aperture leaves). It has -absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the glass-.

    Furthermore, Canon's $60 50mm/1.8 is plasticky, cheap, blah blah- but it's just as sharp as the faster, metal (heavier) L-series lens, and it doesn't suffer from the mild barrel distortion the L-series lens does. It has fewer aperture blades, so bokeh is not as great- which is pretty much the only reason pros buy the L version. Consumers buy it because they want a red ring around their lens and they don't want to be caught dead with a plastic lens.

    You can stare at lens charts until the cows come home and argue about image quality. The L-lenses are slightly better in most image quality categories since they do generally use the very best of Canon's technology, but their chief advantage is that they are built with stronger but heavier materials, aimed at professional users who don't mind that the body is thick metal. Phil Greenspun claims he's dropped his 70-210/2.8 IS on the floor and it worked fine. I'm not about to try with mine, but I can tell you that the thing is built like a goddamn tank, and designed to be modular for easy servicing. Even the tripod mount screw is replaceable...

    1. Re:Canon-L fanboys who know nothing of optics by Speare · · Score: 1

      Bokeh comes from the number of aperture leaves and their shape(there are some non-straight-edged aperture leaves). It has -absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the glass-

      Bokeh comes from a NUMBER of influencing parameters, just as the "bouquet" of a fine wine can be affected by a number of different wine-making techniques.

      You're right that the shape of the aperture has an effect. More leaves, or more rounded leaves, will smooth out the circle.

      Another factor is whether the lens uses a reflex mirror design to achieve a longer effective focal length. Those short Tokina 500mm lenses definitely have a distinctive "donut shape" to any strongly contrasting bokeh area features.

      The quality of glass can affect bokeh, especially when there are sharp highlights reflected in the out-of-focus areas. Take a christmas tree or a twinkling backlit lake at sunset. Put the small twinkling lights out of focus. Good glass without any bubbles or astigmatisms will have a smoother round highlight than glass which has inclusions, bubbles or grinding irregularities.

      But, just like sipping that fine wine, you might come off as being pretentious if you drone on about bokeh, especially if those you are talking to know a lot less, or a lot more, than you do on the subject.

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    2. Re:Canon-L fanboys who know nothing of optics by aardvarko · · Score: 1

      You're wrong about bokeh. It is more complicated than the shape of each "circle of confusion"; some glass has the light evenly spread through each circle of confusion, making the individual circle look like a perfectly even disc, while others have the light concentrated in the middle - like a flashlight beam - or towards the outside of the circle, like a Hula Hoop. (And then there are mirror lenses, with their donut bokeh.)

      It's about the distribution of light within each out-of-focus highlight, not just the shape of its periphery.

  77. This, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    from a guy who calls himself "theMerovingian".

  78. Oh great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We have to take it again. The U.S. had its eyes closed and it looks like Antartica is making a face. Nobody told us it was class picture day!

  79. PCs not pc's! by jolyonr · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Damn, hate to be a grammar nazi, but this one always annoys me. There's no apostrophe in PCs. And it's sad to see in almost every flyer from PC retailers they're continuing this mistake.

    Correct Usage:

    I installed XP on my five computers and now all my PCs are on fire.

    or

    I installed XP on my only computer, and now my PC's on fire.


    Incorrect Usage:

    All your PC's are belong to us.

    I hope this helps.

    Jolyon

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    1. Re:PCs not pc's! by Council · · Score: 1

      I may be wrong, but I was told by some important-sounding people many years back that although it defies logic, apostrophes are appropriate in plural usage. A quick Google reference verifies that this has worked it's way into modern usage to the point that its a new rule. You might want to check an official style manual on that one, because I think that it might be right.

      And yes, my "it's" and "its" were just to make you cringe. But it hurt me more than it hurt you.

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    2. Re:PCs not pc's! by jolyonr · · Score: 1

      That suprised me, so I looked at that site (which seems to be some random guy saying he thinks it's probably ok) and did some google searching of my own, which seems to back up what I was saying, that an apostrophe should never be used before the 's' in a plural.

      Jolyon

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    3. Re:PCs not pc's! by charboy1 · · Score: 1

      Funny thing is that in Dutch an apostrophe is not only acceptable but required to make some words plural. This works mostly for foreign words.

      pc's is spelled correctly in Dutch.

    4. Re:PCs not pc's! by Council · · Score: 1

      And it's that rule that makes people, me included, so edgy about the use. But I was converted by some bunch of grammar nazis who had books. *shrug* I was really hoping you'd find a reference for me so I could settle it one way or another. Flames are a wonderful research tool sometimes ;) instead of asking the question, you assert what you think is false and people give references to disprove you.

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  80. I give up, so by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Where is Wally ?

  81. A link? by Paraplex · · Score: 1

    anyone got a link to where /.ers can download the full image to see for ourselves? ;)

    1. Re:A link? by peterprior · · Score: 1

      ... and what would you open it in ? Gimp? MSPaint?

  82. Re:Nikon made a bigger print from a 3 Megapixel Ca by micksterama · · Score: 1

    Oh I absolutely agree with the zooming in function. I think that you will start to see serious efforts by cartographers and the military to creat precision images like this. And to your quote at the end of your post you can add, And Friday is the last day of the week, so TGIF!

  83. This is the Best they got? by Lordofohio · · Score: 1

    They went to the trouble and time of doing this project, and the best subject they could find was some rather boring urband area?

    Seeing as how they're nerds, I went to the site fully expecting to see some telephoto shot of a girls' dorm room. sigh.......

  84. 56k Beware... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    nt

  85. More useful gigapixels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.gigapxl.org/gallery-1.htm

    1. Re:More useful gigapixels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  86. Better panoramic images here by stubear · · Score: 1

    I've been looking into working with panoramic images with my digital rebel and ran across this site. There are some really beautiful panoramic photographs of Washington DC landmarks in the gallery. Max also created a gigapixel image of Bryce Canyon using 196 photographs taken with a 6 megapixel digital camera.

  87. Your questions are already answered by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Look at the link in the previous posting. Those people have a single exposure camera of higher resolution. They explain the lens issues. They also have better images, including naked people.

  88. Not really stitched by Lynx0 · · Score: 1

    If you look at one of the pictures at 40x magnification, you can very clearly see the borders between the tiles, there seems to be no panorama software or similar involved. I'm not sure this would qualify as one big picture...

    1. Re:Not really stitched by VDM · · Score: 1

      On some of the images, we used a mosaic algorithm for stiching them together (although pathologists do not see a real necessity on that, because they are able to diagnose anyway). However, it is almost impossible to have a perfect mosaic on the whole area, because on such large amount of images you may accumulate subpixel errors up to visible artifacts (and this because you have to align on both x,y directions).
      I suspect that even the TNO image, observed at maximum resolution, will show at least some interruption for the same reason.

    2. Re:Not really stitched by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i saw half a man

    3. Re:Not really stitched by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But if you use another system like IIPimage http://iipimage.sourceforge.net/ you can see we have a 3.6 Gigabyte image without errors or superposition.

  89. Excuse by dfj225 · · Score: 1

    "7.5 gigabyte worth of data"

    Putting a link to something like that on slashdot....just seems like an excuse to get a new server!

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  90. Fat32 vs. NTFS by joda · · Score: 0

    If by Windows you mean the Fat32 filesystem you have a filesize limit of 4GBytes, but if you use NTFS (Standard if partitioned from Win2k/XP) you don't have an upper limit.

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  91. Don't Click On That! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Don't download that picture! We'll exceed our bandwidth for the next three months!"

  92. Mirror - Please mod UP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  93. MP are not the only factors between CCD's by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    The problem is that MP is a sham when you have CCD's that are not all built the same.

    Lots of CCD's you see right now have simple RGB filters, and adding up all those filtered pixels gives you an MP rating.

    But what happens when you have sensors like the Fuji that rotate the photosites by 45 degrees? It has a real apparent affect on resolution that is not really measured by the raw MP rating.

    Or consider the foveon sensor, a stacked array of sensors which has the pixel output of a 3.6MP array but 10.2MP when considering photosites.

    Or even the newer Sony sensor with RGBC (Cyan) color filter arrays. I'm not even sure how they measure that.

    Then add in the difference in noise levels with larger or smaller sensors, and you have a large range of things that can affect the image quality independant of the MP rating alone.

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  94. How wrong could he be... by oliverthered · · Score: 1

    Well,there's joined arial footage of my entire country stored on raided hdd's that takes up tera-bytes.

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  95. Zoomify by Noclar7 · · Score: 1

    If anyone is looking for a great viewer/tiler for high rez images check out Zoomify. I've been using a copy I recieved for free with a bundle from Erain and it rocks, but there is also a free lite version on there site as well. and it easily integrates into flash. http://www.zoomify.com/

  96. How about the inverse? by fwitness · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I've been looking for some kind of OSS that let's me take a picture and print it on multiple pieces of paper. Many digital cameras can take absolutely huge pictures these days, and I'd like to be able to make my own panorama style prints. I've been looking for months for such an animal but no luck.

    Anyone here have suggestions?

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    1. Re:How about the inverse? by madstork2000 · · Score: 2, Informative

      I was going to mod some comments, but thought I would help you out instead. KDE built in printing dialog has this functionality.

      If you are printing from a non-KDE app, specify "kprinter" as the print command. The Print dialog comes up and choose "Properties" (The should be a button next to the printer select drop down.

      Anyway, among the tabs (probably hidden from view) is a "POSTER" tab. This will allow you to pront anything supersized.

      I have not used this too much myself so I cannot speak as to quality, but I know the function is there if I need it. I'm sure you can find much better info on the net than I can provide....

      -MS2k

    2. Re:How about the inverse? by fwitness · · Score: 1

      Thanks for taking the time to educate me. I just bought a new box today for use as a desktop. I'll fire up KDE and give it a shot. Sounds like it's worth a try. As for searching the net, I just can't seem to find the right terminology to find any useful software for this. Maybe "poster printing" will yield some better results.

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  97. Okay, but whats the Big Picture? by torpor · · Score: 1


    The big picture is that, of course, anyone can do this now.

    tinfoil:7.5gigs a day, of a conveyor belt, something like 40,000 'commuters' or 'passengers', some DSP, and you've got Big Brother.

    future-creative: 7.5gigs of daily stats on the fisch-farm, independently attended-to feedstock, on automatic around the feeders..

    sci-fi: what if suddenly, at such large capacities (7.5gigs) we suddenly start seeing things we weren't expecting .. something .. scarey ..

    hey-yo: hey, at least we can still all go buy the parts at Fry's at 2am in the morning on a Saturday if we wanna, yo!?

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  98. What a joke... by Jason+Hood · · Score: 1


    If the criteria for making the largest digital picture ever entails combining multiple snapshots than this company needs to get b&tch slapped. There are companies that have "taken" far larger pictures using this method. Try 50 GB for starters. This is small potatoes in the photogrammetry industry.

    Nice media ploy though, it even worked on slashdot.

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  99. Me too. by Grendel+Drago · · Score: 1

    Me too, damn it. I'd just gotten a bunch of panorama tools stuff, and was learning exactly how the toolchain worked, etc. And I was so sure I was gonna get a two-gigapixel image of a snowy hillside, or something like that, and become famous on slashdot.

    Oh well. The three-gigapixel barrier awaits!

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  100. Could a geek god... by Astroboy! · · Score: 1

    ...make an image so big, even s/he couldn't download it?

  101. POINT THIS AT THE MOON by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why hasn't someone pointed this at the moon yet?
    Hook it up through a telescope, and map the surface.
    Since nasa wont...

  102. It's probably still a bayer pattern by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mostly green pixels. I'll stick with film for my important stuff where any pixel can be any colour.

  103. No limit? by Grendel+Drago · · Score: 1

    Of course there are limits on NTFS. Googling reveals the filesize limit to be a theoretical maximum of 16 exabytes.

    Fine, fine, I suppose that's effectively unlimited, and I'm just a pedant. (There's a nifty page with a table about the maximum filesizes in Linux filesystems too.)

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  104. Huge Dutch Sluts.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your moment has arrived!

  105. ZOOM! by presidentbeef · · Score: 0

    ENHANCE! ENHANCE! Ahh, there's our suspect...

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  106. Cyclist Clone is pretty cool by mrthoughtful · · Score: 1

    off on the far left are two cyclists. One has a red backpack. If you follow the road up, and take a left past some trees - there he is again, this time without his friend.

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    1. Re:Cyclist Clone is pretty cool by sreid · · Score: 1

      what happened to his friend... lost in the pixels...

    2. Re:Cyclist Clone is pretty cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I also noticed a bus on the top to bottom road 2/3rds of the way over. The picture split there, so there the front end of a bus, and the back end of a car, joined together. Looks like a combination bus/car (for those looking, the bus says "Connexxion" on it).

  107. Flash by fiannaFailMan · · Score: 1
    Most Boring Picture Ever Taken
    True. Cool use of Flash though.
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    1. Re:Flash by networkBoy · · Score: 1

      " Most Boring Picture Ever Taken

      True. Cool use of Flash though."

      Exactally what I was thinking. I would like the stitch program and the Flash interface. I think I can manage the rest myself.
      -nB

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  108. license plates by zelphi · · Score: 1

    If you zoom in far enough you can read the license plates off the cars in the parking lot. That's pretty damn cool.

    1. Re:license plates by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i see that i'm not the only paranoid, privacy geek here. either that or too many reruns of bourne identity/supremacy!

  109. FINALLY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A camera with range enough to take a shot of my entire ballsack.

  110. Not even the biggest. by ole9 · · Score: 1

    My company Aperio builds systems for scanning microscope slides. We routinely create slides over 40GB in size. Please see http://www.aperio.com/View/gallery.ksh for some examples.

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  111. Not Impressed at ALL!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Stitching single images together to form the largest digital picture in the world is not that big a deal. What would be impressive is if that digital picture was shot that way and not stitched or manipulated in any other way to get it there.

  112. zombies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As always with hight resolution pictures, you can find some creepy stuff - near a bicycle sign at the middle of the right side you can see a zombie energing from under asphalt.

  113. Where's waldo ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm sure he's in there.. somewhere.

  114. Largest? by djdos · · Score: 1

    Sorry but I was at a GIS conference recently where they had a 5 terrabyte image of the planet. It was a bunch of satellite photos stiched together. Can't remember which company had it though.

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  115. you can read the number plates by praseodym · · Score: 1

    It's quite cool, you can read the number plates of most of the cars!

  116. Bitter posters who think they know everything by xThinkx · · Score: 1

    Firstly, quality of glass certainly has a bit to do with EVERY ASPECT of the image created. Use shitty glass, you'll get shitty images, it's that simple. Note that I didn't say the L glass is the only glass that produces quality image.

    Bokeh is absolutely affected by glass quality. Especially when dealing with numerous small points of light, such as cityscapes and reflections on choppy water, using low dispersion glass will create smoother but still "contrasty" bokeh.

    I own the 50mm 1.8 that you're talking about and use it very often, it's a great lens. Yes it feels like a child's toy but it takes amazing photos. Already it's got a bit of a "stick" in the focusing ring, but for $60 I could just as easily replace it if I found that to be an inconvenience.

    I also own a wonderfully terrible Canon 75-300 f4-5.6 III, and I have used on several occasions Canon's 100-400 f4 L (I am also preparing to purchase this lens for myself). I understand that this is comparing bottom-of-the-line to top-of-the-line glass here, but the difference between the lenses is incredible. Yes, there are numerous factors that make L lenses great besides the actual glass, but that still doesn't take away from the quality of that glass.

    I'm not trying to start a flame war here, I don't think many people got the impression that L GLASS IS TEH AWESOMES IF YOU DON'T USE IT YOU WILL GET PWN3D!!!! I was just saying that the optics mean a lot more when you talk about image quality than the number of meg-uh-picksuls. Next time I'll make sure to not be a "fanboy" by not mentioning any brand, make, model, country of origin or color or any item that I talk about.

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  117. Re:not impressed. (Mod Down) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mod down. Pimping Crappy mosaic with dupped images all over made with software that any dick can download. You aren't impressed? They did a lot more than you did you pompous prick. Go back to Deviant Art with your lackluster photography.

  118. Mine's bigger by MrBlic · · Score: 2, Informative

    Here's a link to a montage of a Dolphin Brain that was assembled with a 10x objective on a microscope.

    Dolphin Brain on Neuroinformatica.com

    Once you get to the page, zoom in about ten times using the + magnifying glass icon.

    The file is 135,000 pixels wide by 200,000 pixels high which would take 77.25 Gigabytes to store uncompressed. The compressed size on the server is 3.912 Gigabytes.

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  119. Distortion by Tristandh · · Score: 1

    Either the Dutch have weirdly shaped cars, or the image of the parked cars on the far right side is distorted...

  120. This photo is NOT taken from TNO property by Buttonius · · Score: 1

    I know the location where this photo was taken very well. It is from way up in (or on top of) the electrical engineering building (now EWI) of the Delft University of Technology. The church tower in the center of the image is the nieuwe kerk (New Church). This is NNW from the standpoint of the photographer.

  121. It's an HP... by carlmenezes · · Score: 1

    ...that comes with a half full bucket of ink ;)

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  122. 4 gigapixels in one exposure by digibear · · Score: 1

    While the Dutch are to be commended, we Americans have already been creating artistic 4 gigapixel photos in ONE exposure. I refer to "The Gigapxl Project" at http://gigapxl.com/. I have seen a huge print of the San Francisco skyline at the Albuquerque Museum and the detail was so real, it was surreal. I know one of the team members and briefly the camera is custom built and uses 9x18 inch Kodak's Aerocolor III type 2444 film. The vacumn film back is from a surplus U2 spyplane camera. The film is digitized using a mil-spec aerial film scanner. The Prints are from a very large format ink jet printer (Epsom I think). The lenses were custom designed, manufactured and individual lens element matched for an astro camera. Check out the Balboa Park scene sequence. Will blow you away.

    1. Re:4 gigapixels in one exposure by sreid · · Score: 1

      so real, it was surreal...beyond real?

  123. MIT Research in Very Large Mosaics Systems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hi.

    The following website, assocaited paper and movies demonstrates a system for acquiring, mosaicing and rendering very large mosaics. Although the dataset in the paper is 800MB, the system can scale to much larger sizes.

    The acquisition phase acquires multiple images per position at varying apertures to generate high dynamic range images (24bpp). This process is mechanized and programmable lending itself to scalability. The mosaicing takes advantage of distributed computing to compute a nonlinear optimization across many machines (enabling scalability). The rendering software adaptively manages the images in memory using visibility and other methods to enable interactive viewing. The interactivity can be traded off for rendering quality (the progressive rendering can be seen in the movie). Furthermore, the renderer decompresses the high dynamic range from a logarithmic scale to a linear one based on either user input or heuristics for optimal viewing.

    The effect is that you can acheive much higher resoltion and dynamic range than previous mosaicing methods or sensors.

    Shortcomings are the acquisition times (limited to the mechanical apparatus).

    http://graphics.lcs.mit.edu/~neel/omnivis/omnivis. html

  124. according to my two sources by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    it was taken about 5 minutes after 3.

    (two sources in the picture - are there others?)

  125. It's an industrial park. In bad lighting. by Animats · · Score: 1
    For that much trouble, they could have found a more visually interesting subject. There's less detail than you might hope, too. You can zoom all the way in and read the Baltimore Air Coil logo on the heat exchanger on top of the power plant. But you can't read license plates.

    Keyhole clearly has the largest stitched-together panorama. They have the whole planet.

  126. Dutch Parking by charboy1 · · Score: 1

    My favorite part of the picture is the fine example of Dutch parking. Look for the small grey car in the center right of the picture parked perpendicular to the curb. The parking places are angled of course.

    The resolution is so good that we can read the car's number plate. Now what can we do with that?

  127. 1.21 gigapixels?! by istewart · · Score: 1

    1.21 gigapixels?!

    How am I going to display an image of that size? It can't be done, can it, Philo?

  128. I give up... by rbjacobs · · Score: 1

    So, where's Waldo? :) Couldn't resist

  129. Needs more DPI! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This won't do at all, I can still see some aliasing in the cracks in the asphalt of the parking lot!

  130. Most Boring and Useless for Artwork by purduephotog · · Score: 1

    I've got to agree here. I was pretty impressed with the write up- using a computer driven servo to snap the shots... then I saw what it was they took.

    I mean, really- it's a building.

    Its is NO WHERE near the quality of what people like Max Lyons have done, by HAND. They wrote a script and attached a few servos.

    That isn't to say what they accomplished isn't impressive- it is. But it lacks the flavour and the art of someone that's striven for a better capture method. I salute them for driving it with a servo- thats grand. Now take that setup out to some impressive scene and photograph that (Say the Tetons of Gigapixel fame) and lets see what it can do.

    And if I can drive that servo with my palm pilot, plus some 26aH batteries, then I'm even more interested ;)

    But until they photograph something worthy of being captured at that resolution, it'll be no different then sticking a couple of webcams out the window.

    Just my opinion.

  131. where's waldo? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I haven't found him yet

  132. pic by torrents · · Score: 1

    i didn't bother to rtfa, but that must have been 1 giant camera... :)

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  133. Stolen Vehicle by Malicious · · Score: 1

    They didn't even blur out the licence plates on the Cars in the Lot. I mean isn't that common curtosy? Where is the first place YOU zoomed in on?

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    1. Re:Stolen Vehicle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i went from window to window looking for a hot dutch chick

  134. yah, and Nikkors spank the lot of em ;) by caveat · · Score: 1

    i inherited my grandfather's camera collection, an early 70s Nikkormat-EL with about half a dozen lenses ranging from a Micro-Nikkor macro, to a panoramic lens with a little mechanical jobbie to move the optics parallel to the plane of the film (lets you get shots of eg. tall buildings with no perspective effect) to a beast of a Nikkor-H 300mm tele...god, that thing is sweet. The rig is probably 30 years old and it still utterly spanks modern kit up and down the block - you could club somebody down with it, wipe the blood off, and keep shooting. perhaps i will get a new body sometime, but AFAIK the optics can still be made to fit. canon fanboys indeed :P

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  135. BP 359 ZN by p3d0 · · Score: 1

    You can even read the license plate on the car in the lower-left corner.

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  136. Not Digital, but 4 Gigapixel by TroZ · · Score: 1

    These guys http://www.gigapxl.org/project.htm are using a specially designed camera and 9 inch by 18 inch file and a high resolution digital scanner to get 4 gigapixel images that they then print out at 5 feet by 10 feet.

  137. Read the Gigapxl technical documentation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It contains an analysis of available data within the film grain structure I saw their presentation at the Camera Owners of the Bay Area meeting and they were very clear about maximum available resolution.

    http://www.tow.com/photogallery/2004/20040714_co ba /

  138. it must be hidden in there somewhere . . . by serjinn · · Score: 0

    100 points to whoever finds a naked person.

  139. Hmmm... by Geburah · · Score: 1

    Im not sure whats going on, but the picture has either been slashdotted, or is just taking a REALLY long time to load.

    *snare-snare-symbol*

  140. Would the owner of car, license plate number... by spoco2 · · Score: 1

    "Would the owner of car, license plate number 93 DT VR, please return to your car, you've left your lights on?"

    Really... (ok, their lights aren't actually on) it is pretty cool to be able to see well enough to make out the license plates of all those cars in the car park way down there...

    I mean, come on... whoever the owner of HS ZP 71 is, you should clean your parcel shelf. (why is it called that anyway, if you actually put parcels on it you'd block your rear view)

    It may be boring, but you can pretend you're on an episode of almost any crime/thriller show or movie (think Alias or the like) and say... "Wait... I'll just zoom in there... look, there's their license plate, clear as day!

    Here is the flash view of it

    Oh, and the really tinsy tiny car that fits into the motorcycle spot is call too.

  141. Ok but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... Where's Waldo ?

  142. I found IKEA! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There's an IKEA in there. Then again, there's an IKEA everywhere now.

    Top right corner, out beyond the buildings with the really red roofs (rooves?). I count 10 blue IKEA flags.

  143. Artifact/Bug in picture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There is a artifact on the red car 50-DN-ZP.
    Check out the car-bus next to it.

    It's really great, though.

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  144. Not the biggest by mkiwi · · Score: 1

    I have an image that is much much larger than that. Through a "good friend," I was able to get a PowerMac G5 with 8GB of RAM. That means that with my 64 bit processors, I made an image that is about 10 GB with a little C code and imagemagick. Eat your hearts out you dutch .......

  145. Half a man walking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Zoom in just left of the upper left corner of the large grey building in the lower left of the big picture. There, next to a blue sign with a bike, you can see a head and upper torso of a man walking around with no feet like nothing happened!

    Either people in Holland have special powers, or their panorama tools could be improved.

    A little bit to the right, you can see a similar looking guy partly hidden behind the building. Is it the same person? Does anyone know him?

  146. I like the picture... by Jaycatt · · Score: 1
    Think: if it was a picture of a beautiful landscape, what would be worth zooming in on? That's the best part of this large image, is being able to zoom in on just about anything in it and see it in detail. It's not a pretty scene, but it sure shows off the detail.

    It's also good for answering questions like: "Did I leave that pack of smokes on Building A or Building B?"

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    1. Re:I like the picture... by invincerator · · Score: 1

      Agree ... the gigapixel photo of Bryce canyon that others posted about is frankly, kind of boring. But, instead of buildings an a few scattered cyclists, I think a gigapixel photo of a large sporting event or the beach at Rio de Janeiro would be more interesting to search through.

  147. Why does it look computer-generated? by emm-tee · · Score: 1

    What I find interesting about this is that the 'zoomed out' view looks fake. It looks computer generated. Surely the zoomed out image should look like a normal photo of the overall scene?

    Is there something about the way they are producing the lower resolution 'overall' picture which causes it to look fake?

    It's interesting because understanding why it looks wrong may help us understand how to make 3D graphics in computer games look more realistic. Maybe the key is making things less clean and perfect.

    1. Re:Why does it look computer-generated? by luxuryluke · · Score: 1

      I think it's because the zoomify plugin actually sizes down the photo so that it does have to refresh in a direct ratio with how much zoom you click.

      meaning: each section of the photo can be zoomed in so far, until it has to load the sharper photo... etc...

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  148. No one felt like Deckard in Blade Runner? by invincerator · · Score: 1

    After zooming in to incredible detail in this picture, I suddenly had the realization that this is pretty damn close to what Deckard was doing in the movie Blade Runner. I'd say the detail here is as good or better as the photo in Blade Runner. If memory serves me, Deckard could "turn around" corners in the photo though. That capability would require a vastly larger number of photos from different angles to be stitched together, and more sophisticated "Zoomify" software.

  149. Model Release form by luxuryluke · · Score: 1

    It's important to mention from a legal standpoint here that there are a few subjects in your photo that appear unawares of the photographer (living or not) that shot the picture. Also, given the power of slashdot publicity, a model release form should have been signed by each such person (some without heads, causing other legal problems such as misrepresentation, etc).

    ...including the lady undressing in quadrant FF18-A on the third floor (is there a public rating system in effect here?).

    Rated M: for Mature subject themes.

    -Insensitive clod.

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  150. I feel sorry for this guy... by rothbart · · Score: 1

    That seven seconds between shots is killer for some folks... Check out this screenshot (take it easy slashdot, it ain't that interesting) http://home.comcast.net/~sean.workman/2004/11/worl ds-largest-digital-photo.html#comments/

  151. The concept is cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    what happens if they increase it, just keep adding to it year on year will the detail get finer ? does the image quality get better or is that still a lens/analog to digital problem ? oh and they still could of chose a better image, thats an ugly town
    creativity people !

  152. Floating Guy by spdt · · Score: 1

    Hey! There's a guy floating in the middle of the intersection, near the upper-middle.

    More interestingly, notice how they organize their angled parking spaces, on the right side. I don't know how it is in other parts of the US, but I am certainly not used to seeing parking spots printed this way; it seems very logical. Where I'm from, parking spaces are printed as a big, long line, with some smaller lines branching from it, between which you park your car. This is a much less effective use of space, and there is always that big empty spot off of one side of your car.

    These Dutch sure are smart.... and foxy.

  153. Where's Waldo??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Or anyone else for that matter.

  154. it's all about the information! by Sinner · · Score: 1

    Woah, you can zoom right in on the car number plates, just like in Sneakers!

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  155. Can you find... by psykax · · Score: 1

    * IKEA store
    * Golden Arches
    * Rolls of toilet paper
    * A weird looking PC
    * Camel cigarette logo

    I couldn't find any nudity :)

  156. Number plates by Uplore · · Score: 1

    Did you guys zoom in to see the cars numberplates in the very bottom left hand side of the picture as well? ..... oh.. well i did

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  157. "Error" in one of the images by Sabalon · · Score: 1

    On the bottom, about 2/3rds of the way to the right, where the brown sidewalk is, there is a bloke riding a bike. It looks like part of where they stiched the images together. As you zoom all the way in, it looks like one plate had the guy on the bike, and the adjoining frame had someone walking there. Looks odd.

  158. Did anyone find the bus that turns into a Porsche? by L1TH10N · · Score: 1

    Did anyone find the half bus-half Porsche. It is on a street on the right of the photo. Must be the most fustrating game of "Where's Wally" I've ever seen.

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  159. "PC's" is not plural for "PC" by defiant_nx74205 · · Score: 1

    And what about "DVD's" instead of "DVDs", "CD's" instead of "CDs" ?

  160. DIU Panoramas by danila · · Score: 1

    Inspired by the example (and some other projects linked in the discussion), I decided to do something similar myself. A quick search turned up this excellent product:
    PT Gui (shareware), based on just as excellent Panorama Tools libraries (open source). Check it out.

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  161. Dude is picking his nose. by hokiecomputerenginee · · Score: 1

    If you zoom in on the field near the parking lot in the center of the image, you can see an older guy -- looks like a professor -- who is picking his nose... He's talking to a group of 3 students.