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WinAmp's Death Greatly Exaggerated
robyannetta writes "In a previous story, we heard that WinAmp was
down for the count. Apparently, this is not the case.
Here is a note by Eric Caoili that says "No we weren't axed. We haven't even seen anyone with an axe. There was this one guy who came up to us to axe us a question, but that's about it.""
There was this one guy who came up to us to axe us a question, but that's about it.
Did you hear OJ's son confessed to the murder?
He wanted to see a movie, and OJ said I dunno - go axe your mom.
Why didn't you guys plan an exit event when AOL bought you? Why stick around in a new corporate culture anyway?
The dangers of knowledge trigger emotional distress in human beings.
...who of the original lineup of Nullsoft/Winamp coders are still there.... and how many people are working on it now vs. when it was in the Winamp 1.0/2.0 stages...
Honey, I shrunk the Cygwin
What, an "early demise" article, and no mention of netcraft?
What's not a joke is that any news is good news.
For one brief instant we all figured winamp was dead. The internet news sites picked it up, people were downloading every version known to man for archive, and we were all focused on winamp once again.
Welcome to the world of the rumor-feeding news cycle.
We have been played.
It is great to hear that Winamp isn't dead. I have been using it for 5 years now and haven't found a better media player yet. It is both small and quick, Windows Media Player is neither. Not to mention that I have yet to find a sound file that I couldn't get it to play, where many of my files just refuse to play in iTunes or WMP.
Java has no friends.
And all those people crying over winamps death... I guess all the Windows users will still have something to play their music that doesnt report back to their "master" with every song the play...
1) We don't have the source 2) If you are seriously proposing that WMP is as good as Winamp 5, I want some of whatever you're smoking. 3) It's still nice to know it's still around, even if it is a commodity,
My Systems
There was this one guy who came up to us to axe us a question...
Ah, nothing like computer nerds using slang..... It's so cute yet so disturbing.
Bryan R.
The price of freedom is eternal vigilance, or $12.50 as seen on eBay.....
ARGH. Stupid HTML line break requirement... Fixed:
1) We don't have the source
2) If you are seriously proposing that WMP is as good as Winamp 5, I want some of whatever you're smoking.
3) It's still nice to know it's still around, even if it is a commodity,
My Systems
Winamp stopped adding useful features / improvements (for me) after version 3.0... iTunes and WMP10 are much better, with song rating / automatic playlists (song I didn't heard in the past week I like, yes thank you).
Why anyone would pay for Winamp is beyond me. The free version does the job... like a bunch of programs out there. Of course, brand recognition, nostalgy and all...
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99% of windows users are happy with a WiMP. There will be no firefox revolution here.
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Eric's site, Winamp Unlimited, expands a little on the Winamp situation, and also has comments on most of the news articles that've been published regarding the topic.
If you missed it in the last discussion, he also has written a past article on what some of the ex-Nullsoft kids have been up to.
It's weird talking about myself in the third person.
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"Welcome to the world of the rumor-feeding news cycle."
I'll be dead some time in the future.
So, what 3rd party audi player is going to come out of the shadows and take winamps place? XMMS?
I just recently saw this on my dad's computer.. He was watching anime.. My dad was watching anime on WinampTV.. That was pretty cool..
I just wish they had a version for Linux...
in girum imus nocte et consumimur igni
It could also be from Futurama...
I've been using winamp since .92 and ever since Justin left, maybe even when he sold out to AOL, it started to go downhill. Winamp is still the best player out there, but the passion, attention to detail and overall quality seems to have declined.
if Aol couldn't stop winamp development, what would you axe it?
3 is shit.
5 is good, pretty much continuation of 2 instead of 3.
world was created 5 seconds before this post as it is.
Spyware? Hold on.. I know that it asks for some statistics upon install, and it likes to do some web update checks once in a while, but where's the spyware?
Thanks to everyone who came out to show their support for us and who defended us when everyone was calling us gay.
for people who didn't know the source of who "everyone" represents, its a way that nullsoft puts it to make it sound less offensif but I think we could all simply read that as
AOL was calling us gay.
You are correct that it's a media player, and that there are lots of media players out there. But IMO, WinAMP is the ideal choice for music. WMP doesn't have the functionality and extendability that WinAMP has, and many other free media players are clogged up with overly fancy interfaces and/or just don't perform as well.
WinAMP always was free. There's a "pro" version with extended capabilities, but at no point was there NOT a free version that did everything any other media player did (and often more).
And I do not recall WinAMP ever being open source. There is an extensive SDK available, but the program itself is not available in source form... at least not through any legit channels that I could find.
=Smidge=
to everyone who came out to show their support for us and who defended us when everyone was calling us gay.
That is a nice little bit of homophobia from their press release. Real professional guys. Sheesh.
Perhaps you didn't notice because 3 scared you away, but 5 is far more closely related to 2 than 3. They realized how bad 3 sucked, and then skipped a whole digit just to tell you how cool 5 was. And it really is pretty nice. Better than what else is out there, anyway.
:)
All of the major security holes for Winamp that I recall had to do with the fact that it has a component that embeds Internet Explorer. And I've never seen a case of winamp-related "spyware" that doesn't involve either use of IE or other blatant stupidity.
So back off
Netcraft conferms "XYZ Dieing, Netcraft Comferms" type posts dieing
/.er rejoced, as it was a old, and unfunny troll.
Netcraft confermed today that the "XYZ Dieing, Netcraft Comferms"-type trolls are dieing. Many
Wow, I should not post when knackered.
"Reports of My Death Have Been Greatly Exaggerated"
No, not flamebait (although I'd mod you all the way down to Antarctica if I had any points left) - just plain wrong. You have GOT to be joking about WMP. That piece of shit is so bloated it's not even funny.
The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it. -- G.B. Shaw
Actually I dumped BloatAmp after v3.0 came out. Just another good example of how feature creep more often than not kills a good piece of software. I tried iTunes but again Apple (like Real Networks) likes to stuff crap down your mouth as a part of the install and to this day I still cannot uninstall the damn thing, it always gets stuck at a certain point. Right now I am using WMP 10 and it does everything I want, it plays my mp3's and that's all I want.
Has /. been overrun by mad berkeley hippies?
Even in its corrections /. acts like a tabloid...
Mathematics is made of 50 percent formulas, 50 percent proofs, and 50 percent imagination.
WMP is soooooooo much better than that piece of dogcrap.
I'm going to have to agree with you. WMP10 is a very nice piece of software.
Plus, I don't know what kind of voodoo magic MS is practicing these days, but WMP is able to rip an entire CD into mp3s in 2 minutes flat.
I figured the "winamp is dead" story was bogus. As far as I know, winamp is one of the most popular media players, if not the most popular and well known mp3 players. There's that, and shoutcast seems to be doing relatively well. Why would Nullsoft turn around and kill it? The Nullsoft guys seem like great programmers... I'm sure if Nullsoft (as we know it) closed down, they'd reassemble in one form or another and release a new mp3 player on their own. Then AOL would be kicking themselves.
It is dead, it's just hasn't stopped moving yet.
Winamp is rapidly gaining the same level of "features" that Netscape did when it died - it's bloated and tries to sneakily add AOL icons to your desktop. Oh and let's not forget the spyware aspect to the commisions they get on sales - nice touch. The fact that the interface hasn't been made any easier to use, and only gets more fiddly and complicated confirms it. Winamp is the great golden flamingo God of bad user/interface design.
All they need to do now is package AOL instant messenger with it, and it will be truly dead for ever more.
Nobody knows how to fuck up a once perfectly good piece of software through bad decisions like AOL. You really know your software sucks with 100% full vacuum when your old version is actually better in every way over the latest release. Even Macromedia would be impressed with the sheer - "I wonder if the whole thing is running in some sort of emulator""-ness of it all.
Si tacuisses philosophus mansisses. If you had kept quiet, you would have remained a philosopher.
Using a dialect to make a joke isn't a racial slur. It's an appeal to stereotype. And while linguistic stereotypes are often tied in the lay public to other sorts of stereotypes, such links are not an inherent part of language, and imo (and in the opinion of other linguists) linguistic stereotypes shouldn't be confused with racial or discriminatory stereotyping. Language use doesn't confine itself to racial borders.
And besides, you could just as easily say he's just making fun of any number of groups who play up talking like that, like rappers (some of whom you'll note are white).
There are lives at stake here!
The reason why i chose to use winamp 5 is for global hotkeys. This alone makes this player irreplacable. There's probably other players that have them (probably before WA too) but it's the first time I encountered them. I could never go back to non-global hotkey music player.
Now, I haven't had the need to look for an alternative, but maybe someone here might give me the just of them?
We should have been
So much more by now
Too dead inside
To even know the guilt
I prefer winamp still, and will be saddened when I see it go. I like it's efficient use of screen real estate, and the ease I can add songs to my playlist. Winamp, the old version 2, is still the best.
Saskboy's blog is good. 9 out of 10 dentists agree.
And I do not recall WinAMP ever being open source. There is an extensive SDK available, but the program itself is not available in source form.
The code for Winamp v. 3 was released after it proved to be such a miserable failure. It's difficult to find even now on the web since no one wants to work with it, but it is out there (it's here). After this happened, the 2.9x line was continued until version 5 was released.
winamp used to rock. Then for some unfathomable reason someone decided that winamp needed a built-in webbrowser. A WEB BROWSER FOR CHRIST'S SAKE! As soon as I learned about foobar2000 I ditched winamp for good. foobar2000 is also Unicode compliant; winamp won't do unicode without really ugly kludges. That makes foobar2000 perfect for mp3 files with east asian language file names/ID3 tags.
NO CARRIER
no pun intended. (just no pronoun)
for windows systems at least,
clear, simple, and elegant interface is what keeps me using winamp. i can never get used to WMP because it packs a bunch of media-playing-unrelated "features" and shows me this website, and manages playlists in an overly complicated way.
Anything beyond WMP6.4 just scares the hell out of me when it opens for the first time... it fills the whole screen!!!!!
so for simple playlist, winamp.
for speedy playing, 6.4.
both programs are quite immortal imo.
"Right now I am using WMP 10 and it does everything I want, it plays my mp3's and that's all I want."
Annnd sets the stage for massive DRM nazism in the process. Good choice!
You need a FREE iPod Nano
Holy crap, you dogged an apple product and you didnt get modded down?
Lucky son of a bitch.:)
They didn't skip the digit. Their logic was 5 had the feel of 2 and the features of 3...
3 + 2 = 5
I'm listening to WinAmp right now (v5). Had I known that it was dead, I would have been pretty sad. Going to WinAmp.com every now and then, I never noticed their "death"- kind of odd that the first thing I hear about it is Slashdot telling me not to worry.
- dshaw
Agreeably the only feature of WMP I like, the easy CD ripping. Which is ironic because they also try to force DRM on you.
I have OCD and I think it sucks.
Can you please press the pound sign for me?
Firefox is dead!
not magic just a result of their ongoing contract with the prince of darkness.
Hey, I live in Antartica you insensitve clod!
(well maybe not, southern hemisphere at least, give me a break...!)
Live in your skin. Keep changing the scenery.
That's because it only rips the first and last 15 seconds of each track, the rest of the time is filled up by RIAA brand Insta-Noise for your listening enjoyment.
http://www.oldversion.com/
Why would you want to use something that's named "F***ed Up Beyond Repair 2000"?
Javascript + Nintendo DSi = DSiCade
Exactly why does winamp try to connect to the internet every time I start it up? Is it just searching for the latest version or is it something else?
Technoli
- because HTML doens't render linebreaks
- because I'm to damned lazy to keep track of the numbers in my list
- because it makes me look super 1337 even though it's so simple
Remember, it's spiffier when you use it!That which is done from love exists beyond good and evil
I found out about Zinf from the last slashdot story and have switched already.
I felt no reason to upgrade from my 2.9x untill 5.05 came out, and relized that it wasn't that bad. I use itunes to load up my iPod and to put on party shuffle, for you guessed it, parties, but for my day to day sudio needs WinAmp has been it since I first got 1.something on my cyrix 166 runing win95
sorry 'bout the mess...
but act black
stupid lameness filter blah blah
Just to be pendantic, as was said (somewhere) by Nullsoft, it is Winamp, not WinAMP, because Winamp is not the front-end to AMP that WinAMP was. Whatever AMP was. I guess it was the backend for the early versions of WinAMP that later became Winamp.
...When we've already done it for you!
;)
http://www.oldos.org/files/win95dl.php
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Story at 11.
Take off every sig. For great justice.
Sonique2 still dead. :(
for me. Once I tried foobar2000 there was no going back.
;-)
Features
* Open component architecture allowing third-party developers to extend functionality of the player
* Audio formats supported "out-of-the-box": WAV, AIFF, VOC, AU, SND, Ogg Vorbis, MPC, MP2, MP3, MPEG-4 AAC
* Audio formats supported through official addons: FLAC, OggFLAC, Monkey's Audio, WavPack, Speex, CDDA, TFMX, SPC, various MOD types; extraction on-the-fly from RAR, 7-ZIP & ZIP archives
* Full Unicode support on Windows NT
* ReplayGain support
* Low memory footprint, efficient handling of really large playlists
* Advanced file info processing capabilities (generic file info box and masstagger)
* Highly customizable playlist display
* Customizable keyboard shortcuts
* Most of standard components are opensourced under BSD license (source included with the SDK)
If you've ever tried writing a plugin for Winamp you'll fall in love with the fb2k SDK, its like heaven compared to the other player.
Why would you want to use something that's named "F***ed Up Beyond Repair 2000"?
:P HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR!!!! *ducks and hides now*
I dunno, but apparently that doesn't stop people from using Windows!!
Join the TWIT army now!
I've been using version 2.81 for my music needs. Until it becomes unusuable, I intend to stay with it; 2.91 added a bunch of video crap (I use the windows mplayer port and bsplayer for video and I don't apperciate winamp taking it over). 5 is far less intrusive, but 2.81 is powerful enough for me to get the job done.
"There is no time, sir, at which ties do not matter," Jeeves, (Jeeves and the Impending Doom)
It's official; Netcraft confirms: Spelling is dying
One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered Spelling Nazi community when IDC confirmed that proper spelling market share has dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all Web users. Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that proper spelling has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. Proper spelling is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive writing test.
You don't don't need to be a Kreskin to predict the future of proper spelling. The misspelled hand writing is on the wall: Spelling faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for spelling because spell-checking is dying. Things are looking very bad for the Spelling Nazis. As many of us are already aware, spelling continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood.
Microsoft Word spell checker is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time Word developers Jordan Hubbard and Mike Smith only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: Spell checking in Microsoft Word is dying.
Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.
Oxford English Dictionary publishers Oxford University state that there are 7000 users of the OED. How many users of Merriam-Webster are there? Let's see. The number of OED versus Merriam-Webster posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 Merriam-Webster users. Wiktionary posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of Merriam-Webster posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of the Wiktionary. A recent article put Microsoft Word Spell Checker at about 80 percent of the electronic dictionary market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 Word spell-check users. This is consistent with the number of poorly-spelled Usenet posts.
Due to the troubles of Microsoft, abysmal sales and so on, Word went out of business and was taken over by Microsoft Office who sell another troubled spell-checker. Now Microsoft Office is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.
All major surveys show that proper spelling has steadily declined in market share. Spelling is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If spelling is to survive at all it will be among linguist dilettante dabblers. Spelling continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, spelling is dead.
Fact: Spelling is dying
How is that less professional than Ballmer running around making everyone deaf or better yet, making a complete ass of himself on this shocking microsoft windows ad 15 years ago
There is a time and place when you have to be professional but it's not true that because you're in a business that you have to be politically correct 100% of the time.
Look at the way despair.com's faq is written and then think twice.
Bloat-free, great mp3 tagging features, easy to work with, and I can use all sorts of formats (except iTunes, but that's fixed with a quick CD burn-and-rip). There's no skins to speak of, but who really needs skins to listen to music? All I want is something that works without hogging every last bit of system resources.
Best of luck to the remaining WinAMP team. Sounds like a difficult environment, even if they're not dead. Everybody wants a music store in addition to a media player; I'm imagining a faceless suit popping in every day, asking, "Is it done yet? Is it? Time's a wasting!"
damn that name sucks. So does it give precise results at the high frequencies, so-so at medium frequences and is just a complete mess for low freqs mainly because we dont understand it.
The moderators of the news site established to report the news of other news sites after the other news sites had been sacked, wish it to be known that they have just been sacked.
That's the only thing keeping me on Winamp. I don't think I've found another player that supports this. Why not? This is the best feature ever.
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
I still use winamp and it is a compelling reason for me to stay on windows as a platform (really!).
:-) Itunes still has to catch up imho :-)
Winamp will text-match through internet radio including song, genre, etc.
Also, acidspunk 2 is my all time favorite visualization software.
Plus, winamp has gorgeous skins like Nucleo and Expensive Hi Fi.
So, windows, winamp, and acidspunk it is
Spoon not. Fork, or fork not. There is no spoon.
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just intsall all your codecs to play mp3, real media, quicktime, etc... and use 6.4 it seems everything that if you install quicktime/itunes, realplayer, wmp 10, you're left with a ridiculous amount of bloatware and all they do is fight for a chance to call home for one reason or another
Get your torrents...
I don't think winamp will ever truly die. Even though version 3 really hurt, the newest version seems much better. That being said, I still use 2.89, and I probably will for a long time. I have yet to meet a more stable program. I've had everything including explorer crash on a computer to the point that I wasn't even able to control programs. But despite all that winamp kept on churning out the songs. My friends and I used to joke that you know your computer is fubar when winamp crashes on it.
i hotdog.
Just a tip, Winamp was not always free... before aol bought them it was shareware for like 25$. The only thing was it was never crippled so no one really registered it.
I thought they skipped 4 because of the problems winamp 4 skins would have caused?
I'll be here all week, thanks.
I see a lot of people here recommending foobar2000 as a Winamp replacement. I've tried it briefly a few times and have never been very impressed, but I must be missing something. Why are so many people so adamant about foobar2000's superiority? Can somebody out there give me some reasons why they prefer it? Winamp has served me well for many years, but I'm always interested in finding something better.
Fucking Overtly Over Beyond All Repair? Thats the best I can do. I think they mean like "foo" as in "man foo" or w/e that Linuxor thingy goes. You know what I mean. Like "del foo" etc. etc. But, it could also be the programmers nickname from highschool -- like my first program Fuckface2000! :O
Notice how the article is now gone. Also notice that the original story never said that Nullsoft officially tanked. Apparently there are now 3 employees working for Nullsoft, all of which have nothing to do with Winamp's development. I think it's safe to say that the article (which is now deleted) saying that they are still around is crap.
P.S. This is what part of the alphabet would look like if Q and R were eliminated.
Foobar is a transliteration of the term FUBAR. Every self-respecting geek knows that.
Has Windows Media Player really fallen so low? I mean, they were low, but beaten by Real?
Don't thank God, thank a doctor!
"Reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated." - Mark Twain
Allright, I can throw ANY format at mplayer, including Real media, and from a cold launch on a slow laptop, it hardly ever takes more than five seconds from when I enter the command to when whatever-it-is is playing. Notable exceptions are when the media itself is slower than mplayer, such as URLs and Samba filesystems (wonder why).
In fact, there's this cd called movix which can boot quickly (some better solution, especially with all those "Developers, developers, developers, developers!"
Don't thank God, thank a doctor!
Try Winamp 5, it's basically the winamp 2, with the good features from winamp 3 added on.
If you are looking for an older or more specific version of WinAmp visit this site:
http://www.winampheaven.net/
Libertas in infinitum
SO SO much better than Itunes.
Especially because the iTunes music store doesnt work where I live.
dont need it, dont want it, cant use it. Goodbye.
Get that and more at
http://www.oldos.org/files/win95dl.php
(as has already been posted earlier)
Jay | http://oldos.org
From what I can tell, the only spyware concern that anyone has to worry about from WinAmp is the reporting feature that can easily be turned off.
Cosidering how good the free version is, WinAmp is a great piece of software. Given the previous story about WinAmp closing, I am now planning to pay for the full-up version to show my support, and hopefully ohter will too, and maybe AOL will get a clue and not mess with a good thing too much.
Well, I can't be a pesemist all the time. The optimist in me thinks there is a pony some where in that pile of AOL CD's.
Seems /. was pretty fast off the mark to scream that the sky was falling but a bit slow to report this news. Has /. become over-dependant on sensationalist stories?
Do you see what I did there?
who to fuck uses windows for a workstation this days anyway ???
Yes.. it is so hard to rip to MP3 while using WMP.
Can anyone explain why he said it? I've tried researching this a couple of times and not been able to find an answer. Why not California instead?
Does anybody else out there see the irony of Winamp.com featuring Fatboy Slim's Slash Dot Dash video on the day of getting slashdotted?
Electromagnetic noise generated by the digital circuits and picked up in the analog circuitry of the sound card, making an audible buzzing and crackling sound that is most obvious when listening to what should be silence, but is often noticable in a lot of music.
I have a really nice pair of Grado Labs headphones and can't stand listening to music on my PC.
Fortunately I have three macintoshes, which all have better audio engineering. Despite posting this message from a win2k PC, I'm listening to Radio Paradise on iTunes running on my Blue & White G3 Mac.
Prefer Linux? Linux sounds best when run on Apple hardware. I also use XMMS sometimes, on an ancient Power Macintosh 8500 that runs Debian Sarge.
Request your free CD of my piano music.
Never happened.
Ya I know they made a special version and they endorse running it in wine.
Thats not the same.
I'll be honest with you - the issue of race never even crossed my mind when I read that.
I doubt it. He just paid $115 for it himself.
I thought /. was a whole bunch of linux using geeks. Certainly when there is a linux article all the comments read "I use linux 100% of the time etc etc". It is a mp3 player - a good one - but an mp3 player for windows, not a member of the family. I for one use xmms on linux - yes linux is my only desktop.
I've been thinking of getting a Creative Audigy NX USB "sound card". It's not really a sound card, but is isolated from the electrical noise because it's an external unit that connects via USB.
But I haven't been able to determine if it works with Linux. Do you know about it?
Request your free CD of my piano music.
WMP is able to rip an entire CD into mp3s in 2 minutes flat.
What bit rate? How accurate?
vk.
try 5. it's winamp 2 improved, and it's begging for your forgiveness.
vk.
What bit rate? How accurate?
256kbps. I don't know how accurate, I can't tell the difference between wmp10 rip and a lame rip, but it's probably best that you try it yourself and see if you can.
to call them gay again?
Starbucks, Harbuckle of Breath.
winamp isn't dead yet, it just smells funny.
And that interpretation never occurred to me.
"Axe you a question"? - This is not one of the phrases with with known racial connotations.
Now if only he had said "Fo' Shizzle My Nizzle!" then everything would have been much clearer.
Does the m-audio transit work with Linux? I looked for a linux driver on their support page and couldn't find any.
Thanks!
Request your free CD of my piano music.
You are in a maze of twisty passages. There is a Troll here with an axe.
What do you want to do?
emacs as my OS of choice.
There were good features in Winamp 3? Where did they hide them?
Lame encodes, it doesn't rip.
Yes, every person should stick to their own racial slang and mannerisms. Allowing cultures to cross racial barriers is right out and any attempt to do so must be an attempt to poke fun!
Wait, that's just stupid. Which mean's you're a hypersensitive, hyper-PC idiot.
Oh by the way, no one mentioned the race of the person who wrote that line. Whoops, looks like you're the racist here! Man, better get yourself into counselling and a race sensitivity course before the guilt eats away at you! You monster!
"Foo" and "bar" are metasyntactic variables.
But yes, "foobar2000" is still a very silly name for a music player, silly enough for not making me use it - and probably hinders other people's adoption as well. It's bad enough if you're thinking "FUBAR", but it's especially bad if you know what the name really means: The authors were too lazy to come up with a proper name, so they used a temporary name and stuck an year to the end so you know how long they've been avoiding giving it a real name =)
Well, could be worse. Yafray's directory name on the server says "noname" for historical reasons. Anything was better than "no name". I'm glad they came up with a new name =)
version?
IAAL
Even more 1337 is that your HTML tags were displayed and not interpreted.
For those who want to know, use > for > and < for <
I'll leave the explaination of how I got the & to display an exercise for the reader.
It's never too late to have a happy childhood.
so they removed all the stupid web craft from 5? also it does not try to install lots of AOL icons everywhere? oh and it uses less memory than 5???
doubt it... in fact I'll try it now just to see that you are blowing smoke up everyone's arses.
any company that installs any icons OTHER than the icon for the app I'm installing are scumbags.
Darn.
Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on lunch.
There's nothing like a good source of timely, accurate information...
That's good and bad.
The good:
It has a lot of functionality, and will satisfy 80% of everyone who uses it. It works nicely, and if you own an iPod its great.
The bad:
When you use iTunes, you will do it Apple's way. There is no other. And if you complain about the way iTunes works, every apple fanatic will tell you that its your fault and that you just don't "get it". Kind of like your response.
I have iTunes installed on my PC for interfacing with my iPod, but for listening to and ripping music, WinAmp is just *way better*.
How a bout FooBar 2000 or XMMS for windows or Sonique. Those are just as great players as Winamp!
Do a Google Search on Eric Caoili. He's a forum manager and Web designer for WinAmp fan sites. Good one Slashdot.
http://www.jesusonic.com/
Dude rulez supreme.
Is it just me (perhaps I am old) but are these guys playing too much Altered Beasts on their spare time? :-)
Yeah, I'm off topic but the title of the article just lend itself to this question.
Winamp 2 was fine
Winamp 5 was still fine
The bad thing was: I introduced an iMac in my home network, and wished to share the MP3s between the Mac and PC.
Too bad that iTunes (in both Mac and PC) cound't recognize my mp3 Tags in Big5 code.
So, wanna to looks good (see the correct song names, artist..) in the iTunes/Mac? Convert them into Unicode... one by one, and I have >3000 songs.. you imaging how pain it was.
Then.. I use the shoutcast server on my linux box to share my music to friends... and iTunes couldn't do the streaming so that I have to fall back to Winamp 2/5 to do that...
Again, all Chinese songs converted into Unicode ID Tags became rubbished....
Is there anyways to keep Winamp 5 and iTunes happy with those Chinese stuffs... I'd appreciate...
What about a winamp version for mac? Please?
Not Madonna saying "What the fsck do you think you're doing"? Her best work!
i dunno...i think this dude is in denial, or just can't see the writing on the wall. i read his posting on winamp.com, but he doesn't refute any of the claims from the first article. in fact, he confirms that their staff has been made "skinny". the first article mentions that AOL is still committed to winamp, but don't companies always say that about their product just before it dies?
Have you tried foobar2000 yet? It supports many emulated formats and has an archive reader (ZIP, 7-ZIP, GZIP and RAR).
After a little tweaking, foobar is great!
Current version is 0.8.3
http://www.foobar2000.org/download.html
Looking at Zinf.org, the only Win32 version on the download page is 2.2.1, and according to the SourceForge project page, that version is over two years old. And it's got a buffer overflow bug. What am I missing that makes it attractive in the wake of Winamp's development slowing down?
Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken - Tyler Durden
RealPlayer doesn't support SHOUTcast AFAIK, which is the reason for which I use WinAMP under Windows. Under Linux I use Zinf.
Fubar actually stands for f'ed up beyond all recognition.
That's true, but the idea is to then convert from WAV to MP3 or FLAC or something.
NSF rips from NES games and homebrew NSFs can be as small as 16 KB. Converted to a 64 kbps Ogg Vorbis file, that would hold about what, the first two seconds?
Surely the increased compatibility and portability would be worth the space
PayPal me the money for a new hard drive, and I'll agree. When I bought this computer, 40 GB was considered enormous.
iTunes (in both Mac and PC) cound't recognize my mp3 Tags in Big5 code.
Media Center supports Unicode ID3V2 tags, and it streams over LANs *and* WANs, no problem. Just FYI.
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There were good features in Winamp 3? Where did they hide them?
under file -> -> tools -> good features -> -> No really, they're here -> Actual good features, not that stuff we showed you earlier.
Foobar lets user deal with the (hard) clipping, either through limiter (soft clips) or something like Replaygain [replaygain.org]. Another thing is the common sample rate conversion (44.1k->48k) problem with bad resamplers from AC97 soundcards (AC97 does everything is 48k, most music [CDs] are 44.1k), custom SRC was one of the first things in foobar. They also got things like kernel streaming (as oppose to DirectSound) if your a stickler on bitwise perfect output.
Good control over the playback is of course essential. Media Center is another program that lets you fine-tune the playback options. You can use ASIO playback (to as many different zones as you have ASIO outputs), tweak the playback precision (8, 16, 24, or 32 bit), the channels (source, or map to 1,2,5 or 6 channels), and the sample rate (from 44.1KHz right up to 192KHz). There's also automatic or user-mapped ReplayGain.
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Today, I decide to get me a mp3 player, and the only thing I can think of is WinAMP on windows. Way to go WinAMP.
eek. it's got to be burst mode at that speed. any good ripper has that option, but it's not to be used unless you have perfect cds/don't mind clicks 'n' pops. there is no magic way of accurately extracting audio that fast afaik, it just can't be checking. this is important because audio cds lack the second layer of error correction (that data has).
This is my Sig, this is my Gun. One is for Slashdot and one is for Fun.
Holy crap! You dump Winamp because it's too bloated (a valid complaint, I suppose, but you really should try Winamp 5). But then you use WMP 10? That just boggles the mind. That would be like saying that the Linux 2.6 kernel is too big, so you installed Windows XP. It just doesn't make any sense!
Good thing someone didn't ask him a question. He would have been stumped...
I had an imaginary sig once, he said I was a loser and ran off.
Stop stealing so much damn music...
The Grandparent is a bunch of lies. The Parent corrects the lies. In responce to the Winamp is dead article, I installed the most recent version of Winamp (I had been stuck with itunes). There was no attempt to install spyware or put the AOL icon on anything. Someone with mod points please do something.
Comments about purchasing slashdot accounts are OFFTOPIC and TROLL: poster should deal with his UID envy better.
And the marketing gimmick was so successful that some people believed it...
http://www.gedikian.com/ How about visiting Steve's blog? HE even says it's dead!
P.S. This is what part of the alphabet would look like if Q and R were eliminated.
...if there was a plugin that magically set up a ring tone for your cell based on the song of your choice.
Wrong century, huh? Guess I can dream...
Think CONVERGENCE. Inch by inch.
http://www.radiotoolbox.com/industry/index.php?hid =0|7
I used to use Winamp, but when my collection got bigger than 60 songs, it got a tad annoying.
amaroK's a lot better, especially with massive collections.
...these aren't my real teeth.
why this was mod down
Parent foed UID 56 out of UID jealousy. You wish yours was as tiny, unwashed (645770).
I noticed their Internet TV is reduced to only public channels now, of which there is about two.
IS this AOL's effort to get people to switch to their commercial music service?
Well best of luck, I'm using Rhapsody.
As far as I know, they fired the team and replaced it with clowns, about a year or so ago.. This is the first response of the execs, remove the product designers, replace with goons that will morph the package into something that is controllable and easy to exploit.
Maybe to extract the useful functionality from the sources so it could be merged into AOL's service.
After comcast cable's adoption of so many previous AOL clients, I would wonder if AOL will soon be dead.. Naw, how can a company made up of ten thousand tech support and about 100 managers, die..
Just say no to license servers!!