Why do you think the US has so much trouble getting sanctions against Iran approved? because for starters, the US/Israel ARE the aggressors. Sanctions rely upon many countries in the world outside the USA, (many US folks can't get their head around that concept), and see the attack on Iran for what it is, more Zionist belligerence and want no part of it. The only ones who DO go along are forced to either do it or suffer the consequences of going against the USA.
Interesting, you're suspicious of the massive pro-govt rallies, but not suspicious of the anti-govt rallies...you also state very dubious allegations of voter fraud as fact, when plenty of evidence exists for it being perfectly legitimate. Do you remember the US mass media drumbeat for invading Iraq? This is THAT. Again. Why would they do that? it is quite elementary, taking down Iraq and Iran is a priority for Israel, the US mass media is largely controlled by Zionists and thus, you get the news necessary to form opinions like the one you have faithfully regurgitated.
What was Iran's justification for shooting at its own citizens last year?
I believe its called 'insurrection', you think the US wouldn't do exactly the same? hell, i've personally been gassed, arrested and watched others be beaten badly on several occasions in the USA for doing absolutely NOTHING except marching in the streets peacefully. I know, you'll say that "we must have been violent", but that's the police talking on the nightly news afterwards, they lie effortlessly and routinely.
My condolences, and I agree but these separate things are not mutually exclusive. It is safe to say that the US Govt has and will continue to assassinate anyone, including US citizens as they deem necessary. Just the other day Obama himself authorized the extra-judicial assasination of Anwar al-Awlaki. It would be equally naive to assume that the mass media is committed to excellence in journalism:> hopefully that is obvious to anyone older than 10 years. Those events in Iran for instance, consider the extremely newsworthy fact of the 'twitter revolution' starting from 3 accounts created on the day of the election by anonymous persons who tweated thousands of breathless messages for the next few days in English, _eventually_ creating a massive student reaction to the purported horrors, (not to mention that the existence of these tweets was announced to the world by a hard right Jewish rag in Israel), was completely buried. The simple fact is that 99% of the humans on this planet are dealing with an elite who gain and maintain their position by the use of terror and murder and manipulation by any means. The simple fact of living as an elite member of this group implies an amoral personality disorder. it is no different in the US or Iran or anywhere. The War on Muslims is just the latest bogey man to keep the rubes occupied instead of figuring out why their standard of living keeps declining.
Sure they do. This whole myth of a Palestinian nation is one of those specious bits of reasoning
then you wouldnt mind quoting one of these activists rallying around that flag instead of the whole "human rights disaster" thang.
If you were to follow this, you'd see that the notion of "Palestinians arent really a people" to be one of the several red herrings that the defenders of the Zionist project use to change the subject. It is also reveals the blindness inherent in racist ideology, assuming anyone would swallow that sophistry justifying the land theft, much less the ethnic cleansing, murder and brutality. but they do it every day, amusingly.
well, you need to publish SOME plausible reason other than making the Middle East safe for Israel.
What if US citizens realized that their govt. spent all of these young men and womens lives and a trillion dollars simply to satisfy their Jewish patrons?
It will be interesting, we live in interesting times.
Supporters of the Palestinians by and large don't rely on specious reasoning as their motivation, they are merely reacting to a brutal colonialist enterprise, defending the victims of this ongoing crime against humanity.
Selective hogwash such as you proffer, is what the aggressors fall back upon, lacking any moral or rational currency
Your dichotomy is false, the essence of Ahmadenijad's linking of Zionism to the US war machine is perfectly valid.
Are you suggesting the world's only superpower military, the same one that just annihilated their neighbor and is promising to do the same to Iran, did NOT do this at the behest of Israel, for the benefit of Israel?
And further, are you skipping over the patent fact that Zionism is a violent, ethnic supremacist, nationalistic movement with a nuclear arsenal, published plans to conquer all of 'Greater Israel', a massive coordinated media campaign to demonize the Muslim faith in general along with over 60 years of defiance of multiple counts of gross violations of international law? (yes, the same Israel who got 390 yea's from the House in support for their bombardment on Gaza, the same Israel who got 344 votes in favor of the massacre on the flotilla!)
Insightful? that's pure kneejerk 'market will solve everything' ignorance. We need a free as-unfettered-as-practicable marketplace for sure, but you DO NEED COPS!
Fact: "Politicians" didn't get this country in to this mess, Profiteers (who PAY politicians to grease their wheels) do the deeds. The corporate crimes against society are encyclopedic, Politicians, GlenBecks and such are simple bagmen.
Fact: the vast majority of the Republican base is comprised of people who aren't capable of critical thinking. throw them any simplistic, morally attractive bone and they happily chew it and growl at anyone threatening masters orthodoxy et al.
Not sure if that was exactly intended as 'flame bait', (def. not PC) But the point he made of probable fraud is a probably correct. New cheap energy investment schemes/scams are legend.
this 'news' was launched to counteract the news stories about the war now being the longest in US history, and that it is estimated to cost 1 trillion dollars.
Well that was sure a lot of specious and inaccurate factoids simply to change the subject. Still a fact that Raygun presided over one of the two worst recessions in the last 30 years.
No doubt there is lots of room for debate and lots of apples and oranges to account for in comparing macro economic policy over decades, but just as a point of interest, Carter's team fought off an energy crisis and subsequent unemployment successfully with their choices, Reagan's team knocked the bottom out of that expansion. (and i believe the point of that brand of policy is specifically to reduce wage pressure. note that the same philosophy and result happened when Bush's team got their hands on Clinton's expansion)
"Reagan sure as hell wasn't perfect, but the economy grew significantly during his term"
Under Reagan's facile gaze, the economy was sent into the worst* recession in our lifetime. It did then grow, _modestly_, from the hole that it was cast into, but it wasn't until the small business incentives under Clinton that the ice broke. I would go further and say that the economy has never recovered fully from those years.
You may be making a common mistake of pointing to certain specious statistics describing the "economy" of the top 2% of tax-payers, in which case it was indeed awesome.
(*excepting Bush's current clusterfuck, following similar pirate-policy)
"This isn't to argue that we should wantonly strip mine every metal deposit conceivable, or that just because false alarms sounded in the past doesn't mean true alarms won't sound in the future. But the fairly long history of worries about resource depletion, followed by the obviation of that resource or by the discovery of new deposits, means that I don't think most of us should be wildly worried about the possibility that rare earth metals will disappear in 50 years."
perhaps the process of worrying spurred adaptations prior to crisis. (In those cases which did resolve successfully. obviously resource depletion/collapse does happen)
True, though Israel could easily put the lie to such scandalous charges, it is also reasonable for them to dismiss something like this when no proof is presented. But there are also a number of organ theft cases, summarized here: http://www.ifamericansknew.org/cur_sit/sweden.html/ Read a few of them and see if you're still sure there's no fire behind that smoke. Stories that are way more specific and solid, with means and motive than suggest it's all a vast conspiracy theory cum anti-semitic blood libel. (and yet also true, after 60 years of manifest ethnic cleansing, brutality and wholesale Palestinian organ obliteration it is dangerously easy to jump to false conclusions)
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Why do you think the US has so much trouble getting sanctions against Iran approved?
because for starters, the US/Israel ARE the aggressors. Sanctions rely upon many countries in the world outside the USA, (many US folks can't get their head around that concept), and see the attack on Iran for what it is, more Zionist belligerence and want no part of it. The only ones who DO go along are forced to either do it or suffer the consequences of going against the USA.
Interesting, you're suspicious of the massive pro-govt rallies, but not suspicious of the anti-govt rallies...you also state very dubious allegations of voter fraud as fact, when plenty of evidence exists for it being perfectly legitimate. Do you remember the US mass media drumbeat for invading Iraq? This is THAT. Again. Why would they do that? it is quite elementary, taking down Iraq and Iran is a priority for Israel, the US mass media is largely controlled by Zionists and thus, you get the news necessary to form opinions like the one you have faithfully regurgitated.
What was Iran's justification for shooting at its own citizens last year?
I believe its called 'insurrection', you think the US wouldn't do exactly the same? hell, i've personally been gassed, arrested and watched others be beaten badly on several occasions in the USA for doing absolutely NOTHING except marching in the streets peacefully. I know, you'll say that "we must have been violent", but that's the police talking on the nightly news afterwards, they lie effortlessly and routinely.
My condolences, and I agree but these separate things are not mutually exclusive. It is safe to say that the US Govt has and will continue to assassinate anyone, including US citizens as they deem necessary. Just the other day Obama himself authorized the extra-judicial assasination of Anwar al-Awlaki. It would be equally naive to assume that the mass media is committed to excellence in journalism:> hopefully that is obvious to anyone older than 10 years. Those events in Iran for instance, consider the extremely newsworthy fact of the 'twitter revolution' starting from 3 accounts created on the day of the election by anonymous persons who tweated thousands of breathless messages for the next few days in English, _eventually_ creating a massive student reaction to the purported horrors, (not to mention that the existence of these tweets was announced to the world by a hard right Jewish rag in Israel), was completely buried. The simple fact is that 99% of the humans on this planet are dealing with an elite who gain and maintain their position by the use of terror and murder and manipulation by any means. The simple fact of living as an elite member of this group implies an amoral personality disorder. it is no different in the US or Iran or anywhere. The War on Muslims is just the latest bogey man to keep the rubes occupied instead of figuring out why their standard of living keeps declining.
No, but the Iranian president did threaten a nation of people with genocide.
cite?
Sure they do. This whole myth of a Palestinian nation is one of those specious bits of reasoning
then you wouldnt mind quoting one of these activists rallying around that flag instead of the whole "human rights disaster" thang.
If you were to follow this, you'd see that the notion of "Palestinians arent really a people" to be one of the several red herrings that the defenders of the Zionist project use to change the subject. It is also reveals the blindness inherent in racist ideology, assuming anyone would swallow that sophistry justifying the land theft, much less the ethnic cleansing, murder and brutality. but they do it every day, amusingly.
Last I recall, Israel cleaned Hezbollah's clock
you mean the 96 attack? Israel was humiliated on that one.
well, you need to publish SOME plausible reason other than making the Middle East safe for Israel.
What if US citizens realized that their govt. spent all of these young men and womens lives and a trillion dollars simply to satisfy their Jewish patrons?
It will be interesting, we live in interesting times.
Supporters of the Palestinians by and large don't rely on specious reasoning as their motivation, they are merely reacting to a brutal colonialist enterprise, defending the victims of this ongoing crime against humanity. Selective hogwash such as you proffer, is what the aggressors fall back upon, lacking any moral or rational currency
At least according to the anti-muslim PR campaign brought to you by the Zionist. but why would they lie?
Your dichotomy is false, the essence of Ahmadenijad's linking of Zionism to the US war machine is perfectly valid.
Are you suggesting the world's only superpower military, the same one that just annihilated their neighbor and is promising to do the same to Iran, did NOT do this at the behest of Israel, for the benefit of Israel?
And further, are you skipping over the patent fact that Zionism is a violent, ethnic supremacist, nationalistic movement with a nuclear arsenal, published plans to conquer all of 'Greater Israel', a massive coordinated media campaign to demonize the Muslim faith in general along with over 60 years of defiance of multiple counts of gross violations of international law? (yes, the same Israel who got 390 yea's from the House in support for their bombardment on Gaza, the same Israel who got 344 votes in favor of the massacre on the flotilla!)
The average consumer is terribly short-sighted.
i think you're right, why else would they all be thinking that auto-mobility has a future?
Insightful? that's pure kneejerk 'market will solve everything' ignorance. We need a free as-unfettered-as-practicable marketplace for sure, but you DO NEED COPS!
Fact: "Politicians" didn't get this country in to this mess, Profiteers (who PAY politicians to grease their wheels) do the deeds. The corporate crimes against society are encyclopedic, Politicians, GlenBecks and such are simple bagmen.
Fact: the vast majority of the Republican base is comprised of people who aren't capable of critical thinking. throw them any simplistic, morally attractive bone and they happily chew it and growl at anyone threatening masters orthodoxy et al.
Not sure if that was exactly intended as 'flame bait', (def. not PC) But the point he made of probable fraud is a probably correct. New cheap energy investment schemes/scams are legend.
this 'news' was launched to counteract the news stories about the war now being the longest in US history, and that it is estimated to cost 1 trillion dollars.
i'd like to know where you got your bullshit propaganda from!
Their insecurities arent your fault, but sneaking around is really not the way if you really want to grow the relationship.
Well that was sure a lot of specious and inaccurate factoids simply to change the subject. Still a fact that Raygun presided over one of the two worst recessions in the last 30 years.
No doubt there is lots of room for debate and lots of apples and oranges to account for in comparing macro economic policy over decades, but just as a point of interest, Carter's team fought off an energy crisis and subsequent unemployment successfully with their choices, Reagan's team knocked the bottom out of that expansion. (and i believe the point of that brand of policy is specifically to reduce wage pressure. note that the same philosophy and result happened when Bush's team got their hands on Clinton's expansion)
"Reagan sure as hell wasn't perfect, but the economy grew significantly during his term"
Under Reagan's facile gaze, the economy was sent into the worst* recession in our lifetime. It did then grow, _modestly_, from the hole that it was cast into, but it wasn't until the small business incentives under Clinton that the ice broke. I would go further and say that the economy has never recovered fully from those years.
You may be making a common mistake of pointing to certain specious statistics describing the "economy" of the top 2% of tax-payers, in which case it was indeed awesome.
(*excepting Bush's current clusterfuck, following similar pirate-policy)
The only thing mythological with that post is possibly the 'epic-ness' of those run-on sentences!
Pesky internets with no facts at all; http://www.juancole.com/2010/03/israel-humiliates-biden-announces.html
"This isn't to argue that we should wantonly strip mine every metal deposit conceivable, or that just because false alarms sounded in the past doesn't mean true alarms won't sound in the future. But the fairly long history of worries about resource depletion, followed by the obviation of that resource or by the discovery of new deposits, means that I don't think most of us should be wildly worried about the possibility that rare earth metals will disappear in 50 years."
perhaps the process of worrying spurred adaptations prior to crisis. (In those cases which did resolve successfully. obviously resource depletion/collapse does happen)
"Why do we continue to build up the manufacturing base of potential enemies, and either destroy or export our own to those same potential enemies?"
ummm, cuz the decision makers end up with a shit-pile of money?
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2010/mar2010/forb-m12.shtml
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not as long as you can get it for pennies on the dollar by raping someone else's land and walking away from healthcare and cleanup costs.
True, though Israel could easily put the lie to such scandalous charges, it is also reasonable for them to dismiss something like this when no proof is presented. But there are also a number of organ theft cases, summarized here: http://www.ifamericansknew.org/cur_sit/sweden.html/ Read a few of them and see if you're still sure there's no fire behind that smoke. Stories that are way more specific and solid, with means and motive than suggest it's all a vast conspiracy theory cum anti-semitic blood libel. (and yet also true, after 60 years of manifest ethnic cleansing, brutality and wholesale Palestinian organ obliteration it is dangerously easy to jump to false conclusions)