I don't think it's practical anywhere...right now.
Just as GUIs weren't practical in 1980. Or pick an earlier year if you would dispute that. The point is that this idea is more than current technology can handle.
GUIs allow users to do more with less knowledge and less work if properly designed. For instance, it is easier to drag select several folders then drop them into the trash, than it is to explicitly name those directories in a CLI.
But the GUI didn't replace the CLI, it augmented it, and relegated it to a secondary function, or one for power users only. The Next Big Thing, will do the same.
I am one click away from reading new mail after it comes in, and I don't think it would be a great improvement to have to say outloud, "Read new mail." But for less experienced users, being able to say, "New message to Bob Jones, copy marketing team, blind copy Jon Bones. Dear Bob, I love you like the brother...." That's valuable, and would be quicker than CLI or GUI if it worked.
The challenges are myriad. How do you insure privacy? How do you achieve accuracy? (Though accuracy never stopped the CLI or GUI).
DDJ is still decent. It is one of the few print magazines I still subscribe to. Hard to find, well-written articles on software development on the internet. It's nice to have editors to sift through the quacks on my behalf.
In television, there are only a handful of news sources, and if you take the time to watch the evening broadcasts from the Big 3, they are spooky similar.
Here in Atlanta, we only have one newspaper. We've tried to get rid of it, but without success. I'll keep trying.
But I imagine that even if we had twelve papers, the front pages would be identical.
Digression: did anyone else notice that with OJ, JonBenet, and Monica Lewinski network news and Weekly World News were finally reporting the same story.
I don't think this is anything to worry about. Those who want to be fed approved information will stick with the major sites. Those who want more will go to specialty sites. The internet excels in this area, because it allows a website to operate at low or no cost. You couldn't put out a well-circulated newspaper or magazine as a hobby, but it's been proved repeatedly that any numb-nut can make a website.
As for me, I'm part of the herd, so I'll stick with/. for all of my news needs.
Apple has always had a love-hate relationship with rumor sites and mags. MacWeek owed its existence to the rumors it published, and Apple contributed with leaks and information (though this was in the pre-Jobs days, or is that post-Jobs?, at the very least, it was between Jobs).
MOSR publishes nonsense almost every day, with no effort at qualification beyond, "we received two completely separate anonymous emails that dehydrated iMacs will be on sale in February! Stay tuned!" so its no surprise that Apple jumps on their case.
Apple shouldn't legitimize the site by harassing them. A better strategy would be to just ignore them, and let them have their fun.
Don't be silly. Sysadmin's react to this kind of thing because they are afraid they will be cracked or Dos'd. Quova may have strange and sinister goals, but I don't think they've received VC money based on DoS attacks and cracking. They are mapping the net, and want to do it in such a way that they don't bother anyone.
I agree. This is silly. If Signal 11 has pissed everyone off so bad that mod points a used against him and him alone, then maybe something's wrong with Signal 11.
So compared to the US, things are all well and good... and that goes for the 1960s as well as now.
In the "new economy" India has an opportunity to cash in on the vast resource of mental power that their population provides, transforming the liability of overpopulation into the asset of a highly skilled work force.
Building nukes may help a little, going to the moon may help a lot, but either way, they have a long way to go before misery and the assault on human dignity ends in India.
And yes, that is even in comparison to the U.S., home of Waco, Ruby Ridge, the Simpson murders, and (the horror, the horror) Kiddieland in San Antonio, TX.
From the Wired article: "How do you tell the difference between a woman in a bikini in a sailboat which is not racy and a naked woman in a sailboat?" Touretzky asks. "The only difference is a couple of nipples and a patch of pubic hair. You're not going to be able to find that with a neural network."
Normally I make no comment on apparent trolls, but this is just too silly.
What's the obsession about tech stocks falling? You are so quick to see conflict of interest where it not only doesn't exist, but couldn't exist. Taco and his minions have always been biased. Pro Linux, anti MS, quick to post anything with "nano" in the headline.
I think this story made it through because sometimes the minions feel they can make a difference in the world. They're young, give them some slack. It may be years before feelings of futility and ennui set in. In the meantime, we'll all just have to be patient.
There is some truth to this post, but mostly I think it's just paranoia. A lot of US firms are too myopic to retrain their valuable, older workers because their skillset has gone out of vogue, but the preference isn't for cheap foreign labor, it's for cheap young labor.
The reality is that while it may be difficult to get started working for a US company, the incentive for that company to treat you like a slave is diminished by the morass of laws and bureaucracy which goes with foreign workers. Don't just show up at Ellis Island and hope for a job. Work with reputable companies who need your skills and they will help you enter the country.
Good code is rare. If you can produce it, then you have a chance in any job market.
PKD had some great ideas, like galactic pot healing, and mechanical frogs. Not to mention the world where time ran backwards (i.e. people grew younger each day, regurgitated their food at dinner).
hi people. im just testing the postability of this shiny new browsetr. This troll seemed like a good thing to respond to. Is there anything better than hot mozilla down the front of your gritscape?
Why does every geek cause have to use an open source rallying cry? This is equivalent to politicians pleading us to pass a law "for the children." Are you for or against Open? Are you for or against Children?
I don't get it. If someone / some group / some consortium acquires the satellites, does that mean service will be Open (what?) ? Free can mean whatever you want it to mean, but services can't be Open Source without being free. So if I want to bounce a Jungle Porn website off Iridium deep from the nether areas of the Congo, that's OK? It is the "world's first orbiting Open Source public network."
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Just as GUIs weren't practical in 1980. Or pick an earlier year if you would dispute that. The point is that this idea is more than current technology can handle.
GUIs allow users to do more with less knowledge and less work if properly designed. For instance, it is easier to drag select several folders then drop them into the trash, than it is to explicitly name those directories in a CLI.
But the GUI didn't replace the CLI, it augmented it, and relegated it to a secondary function, or one for power users only. The Next Big Thing, will do the same.
I am one click away from reading new mail after it comes in, and I don't think it would be a great improvement to have to say outloud, "Read new mail." But for less experienced users, being able to say, "New message to Bob Jones, copy marketing team, blind copy Jon Bones. Dear Bob, I love you like the brother...." That's valuable, and would be quicker than CLI or GUI if it worked.
The challenges are myriad. How do you insure privacy? How do you achieve accuracy? (Though accuracy never stopped the CLI or GUI).
DDJ is still decent. It is one of the few print magazines I still subscribe to. Hard to find, well-written articles on software development on the internet. It's nice to have editors to sift through the quacks on my behalf.
In television, there are only a handful of news sources, and if you take the time to watch the evening broadcasts from the Big 3, they are spooky similar.
Here in Atlanta, we only have one newspaper. We've tried to get rid of it, but without success. I'll keep trying.
But I imagine that even if we had twelve papers, the front pages would be identical.
Digression: did anyone else notice that with OJ, JonBenet, and Monica Lewinski network news and Weekly World News were finally reporting the same story.
I don't think this is anything to worry about. Those who want to be fed approved information will stick with the major sites. Those who want more will go to specialty sites. The internet excels in this area, because it allows a website to operate at low or no cost. You couldn't put out a well-circulated newspaper or magazine as a hobby, but it's been proved repeatedly that any numb-nut can make a website.
As for me, I'm part of the herd, so I'll stick with /. for all of my news needs.
Advisor: "General, Italy has just entered the war!"
General: "So?"
Advisor: "They're on our side!"
General: "Noooooooooo!"
Apple has always had a love-hate relationship with rumor sites and mags. MacWeek owed its existence to the rumors it published, and Apple contributed with leaks and information (though this was in the pre-Jobs days, or is that post-Jobs?, at the very least, it was between Jobs).
MOSR publishes nonsense almost every day, with no effort at qualification beyond, "we received two completely separate anonymous emails that dehydrated iMacs will be on sale in February! Stay tuned!" so its no surprise that Apple jumps on their case.
Apple shouldn't legitimize the site by harassing them. A better strategy would be to just ignore them, and let them have their fun.
Good point. It is a commercial enterprise, so maybe they're concerned about bad first impressions.
Ardiri is a stand-up guy. I wouldn't be quick to ascribe ulterior motives.
Just my $0.02.
Don't be silly. Sysadmin's react to this kind of thing because they are afraid they will be cracked or Dos'd. Quova may have strange and sinister goals, but I don't think they've received VC money based on DoS attacks and cracking. They are mapping the net, and want to do it in such a way that they don't bother anyone.
Never mind, we're the problem.
From 1999 Country Reports on Economic Policy and Trade Practices:
India:
Labor Force (millions) 420.0
Unemployment Rate (pct)22.5
So compared to the US, things are all well and good... and that goes for the 1960s as well as now.
In the "new economy" India has an opportunity to cash in on the vast resource of mental power that their population provides, transforming the liability of overpopulation into the asset of a highly skilled work force.
Building nukes may help a little, going to the moon may help a lot, but either way, they have a long way to go before misery and the assault on human dignity ends in India.
And yes, that is even in comparison to the U.S., home of Waco, Ruby Ridge, the Simpson murders, and (the horror, the horror) Kiddieland in San Antonio, TX.
Maybe our definition of obscenity is the problem.
I'd love to work for a company called Fukatron!
Can someone tell me why low power is important in an internet appliance?
I realize that this is just pr-speak, but still, it should make some sense.
Use this...
username: ihurt
password: ihurt
Normally I make no comment on apparent trolls, but this is just too silly.
What's the obsession about tech stocks falling? You are so quick to see conflict of interest where it not only doesn't exist, but couldn't exist. Taco and his minions have always been biased. Pro Linux, anti MS, quick to post anything with "nano" in the headline.
I think this story made it through because sometimes the minions feel they can make a difference in the world. They're young, give them some slack. It may be years before feelings of futility and ennui set in. In the meantime, we'll all just have to be patient.
future headlines:
Vanity in Hollywood!
Pot in Amsterdam!
Greed on Wall Street!
Mounties in Canada!
/. : News for Shut-ins. Stuff that's obvious.
Yet Another Case of Extrapolating the Specific to the General
...that's free as in handjobs, not free as in speech.
There is some truth to this post, but mostly I think it's just paranoia. A lot of US firms are too myopic to retrain their valuable, older workers because their skillset has gone out of vogue, but the preference isn't for cheap foreign labor, it's for cheap young labor.
The reality is that while it may be difficult to get started working for a US company, the incentive for that company to treat you like a slave is diminished by the morass of laws and bureaucracy which goes with foreign workers. Don't just show up at Ellis Island and hope for a job. Work with reputable companies who need your skills and they will help you enter the country.
Good code is rare. If you can produce it, then you have a chance in any job market.
PKD had some great ideas, like galactic pot healing, and mechanical frogs. Not to mention the world where time ran backwards (i.e. people grew younger each day, regurgitated their food at dinner).
I'm not sure that I would not want to trust my judgement to a VB app
I'm not sure I would trust the judgment of your spell checker.
You can't fool us. 98% of you people are really men. Don't even try.
Love,
Lucy Longtime, Technobabe.
hi people. im just testing the postability of this shiny new browsetr. This troll seemed like a good thing to respond to. Is there anything better than hot mozilla down the front of your gritscape?
Short answer: it's not.
Why does every geek cause have to use an open source rallying cry? This is equivalent to politicians pleading us to pass a law "for the children." Are you for or against Open? Are you for or against Children?
I don't get it. If someone / some group / some consortium acquires the satellites, does that mean service will be Open (what?) ? Free can mean whatever you want it to mean, but services can't be Open Source without being free. So if I want to bounce a Jungle Porn website off Iridium deep from the nether areas of the Congo, that's OK? It is the "world's first orbiting Open Source public network."
This is a load of crap.