Simply take a look at their forums to get a good sampling.
Whatever you get from the forums will not be a "good sampling". Users for whom Thunderbird works normally (which I presume to be the majority) will not be posting on the forums.
No one is complaining that Canonical uses Red Hat's work in their product. One developer is merely troubled that Canonical gets more recognition than they deserve, given their meager contributions to the GNU/Linux software ecosystem.
I suspect that non-Ubuntu users will stop "picking on" Canonical for contributing so little when Canonical and Ubuntu users stop crowing about how much Canonical and Ubuntu contribute.
For me the important point is with which system can I get a computer working quicker and with less effort for installation and maintenance. Ubuntu wins.
Ubuntu wins for you. I suspect this is primarily related to your greater experience with Ubuntu. I, on the other hand, can set up a RHEL system much faster and with less effort for installation and maintenance than I can with Ubuntu. RHEL wins for me. Having done both, I can state objectively that there are fewer steps to get a working RHEL web server (for instance) than there are for Ubuntu.
you may say that this only reflects the superiority of APT over RPM
Well, compare apt to yum since those are more similar tools. Apt is faster, I'll grant you. Yum, on the other hand can install a local package and resolve dependencies from the repositories and it can install a package given the path of a file it provides. Apt cannot do those things, so I believe yum to be the superior tool.
the work that Canonical is doing is obviously valuable.
What makes that obvious?
I think that one of the foremost points to take away from the census is that there are things which are widely accepted to be true (aka: "obvious") which are not necessarily so.
If you repeat a statement often enough, people will begin to believe it. Their believe doesn't make it true.
I think that everything in your comment indicates that the GP is actually invalid in spirit. That post indicated a belief that code is commonly copied and pasted.
If programmers try to conform to patterns (etc.) you'll see more instances where they write similar looking code but do not copy and paste.
If programmers try to accomplish similar tasks using compact vocabularies and operators, again, they're more likely to write similar looking code without copying and pasting.
OF COURSE he is going to write the same commands he has used a thousand times in the same way
I'm sure this is one of the reasons it's best to call the system GNU: Linus didn't write any of the "commands". Linus wrote a kernel and GNU ended up adopting it. The GNU project wrote the system "commands".
Just do the search.
Trivia: Actually, the people at exbiblio found that there is very little repetition of text in literature. Any four or five word sequence in a common magazine article is likely to appear in very few or no other texts. That fact is foundational to their technology.
See, I always read this on Slashdot, and then I read "I love my iPhone" everywhere else
It's called groupthink. You see it here on Slashdot, too. There are highly rated comments in this thread written by people who acknowledge design problems like a poor proximity sensor and include the way that the poster works around that problem.
People will attribute flaws that exist in Apple products to themselves and find a way around them because they must in order to continue to believe that Apple products are the height of wonder. If Apple products are an expression of their self, then criticism of Apple products is a criticism of their self.
EVO battery life depends a lot on usage. I've been told that email sync, in particular, can be draining if your volume is large since that forces the radio to be active more often.
I've had an EVO for about a week now, and I've had much better batter life than I did with my Palm Pre. With what I think is a fair amount of use, it looks like I'd get two full days out of a charge. I've actually seen it last more than 24 hours on a charge, which I never saw with a Pre.
I think the EVO is suffering that common problem: the vocal minority.
Anyone who'd used Palm's devices before the iPhone would say that the iPhone was an evolutionary improvement that imitated most of the Palm features. An awful lot of Apple fans use the word "revolutionary" when they mean "I never owned a PDA/phone".
I think I tried 4.4 a few weeks ago on Fedora. It couldn't configure my dual-screen layout to be side-by-side instead of mirrored (the default configuration). That one failure ended my evaluation of KDE.
I'd imagine you've configured your layout elsewhere.
All this puts Wikipedia in the confusing position of not allowing a page for an undefined word whose meaning is defined via the Wikipedia page for that word
I don't believe that Fedora anywhere claims to have 24 million users. Rather, they publish that a total of around 21 million IPs have connected to their repositories since Fedora 6. None of their published statistics support the belief that there are anywhere near that number of users, currently.
It's easy to name something that users should care about: If Apple decides what applications are allowed, they're free to prohibit applications which implement the functionality of Apple applications in a better way. If competitors can't improve the system, that's something that I care about both as a user and a developer.
RHX was intended to be a marketplace. Software and support contracts were to be sold there. Here is an article covering its release; it's one of the wikipedia references.
Synaptic and Software Center are tools, like PackageKit and up2date are in Fedora and RHEL. RHX wasn't an tool.
It was just last week that Sony announced that "hey guess what? Even though you bought the PS3 thinking online networking would be free, well not anymore suckas!".
I must have missed that. Sony is still advertising the Playstation Network as "100% Free". Where did they announce the change last week?
If you think that's amazing, you should see "Yojimbo". "Fistful of Dollars" was a remake. So were "The Last Man Standing" and "The Warrior and the Sorceress."
With 300+ Linux distributions, ReactOS is just one more dead OSes. (oh noes! cue-in the linux fanbois who'll troll-label this comment!)
Or "-1, uninformed." ReactOS is not based on Linux, and includes no Linux code.
To this day I'm convinced that if MS would ditch their kernel and slap their OS on top of the Linux/kernel, much like Apple sat it's OS on BSD/Mach, it would have a better chance to finally shut Apple up.
Which is further evidence that you have no idea what you're talking about. Remember when OS X was released? How did they provide backward compatibility? The old OS was run in a VM! When Apple switched to OS X, they basically completely abandoned the old OS. It's highly unlikely that MS would do that, as the backward compatibility is primarily what holds their user and developer communities together (respectively). If they introduced a completely new system, it would give both communities a chance to re-assess their ties to MS and definitely provide a chance for them to escape.
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The word "whom" is not antiquated. It is the objective case of "who".
Simply take a look at their forums to get a good sampling.
Whatever you get from the forums will not be a "good sampling". Users for whom Thunderbird works normally (which I presume to be the majority) will not be posting on the forums.
No one is complaining that Canonical uses Red Hat's work in their product. One developer is merely troubled that Canonical gets more recognition than they deserve, given their meager contributions to the GNU/Linux software ecosystem.
I suspect that non-Ubuntu users will stop "picking on" Canonical for contributing so little when Canonical and Ubuntu users stop crowing about how much Canonical and Ubuntu contribute.
For me the important point is with which system can I get a computer working quicker and with less effort for installation and maintenance. Ubuntu wins.
Ubuntu wins for you. I suspect this is primarily related to your greater experience with Ubuntu. I, on the other hand, can set up a RHEL system much faster and with less effort for installation and maintenance than I can with Ubuntu. RHEL wins for me. Having done both, I can state objectively that there are fewer steps to get a working RHEL web server (for instance) than there are for Ubuntu.
you may say that this only reflects the superiority of APT over RPM
Well, compare apt to yum since those are more similar tools. Apt is faster, I'll grant you. Yum, on the other hand can install a local package and resolve dependencies from the repositories and it can install a package given the path of a file it provides. Apt cannot do those things, so I believe yum to be the superior tool.
the work that Canonical is doing is obviously valuable.
What makes that obvious?
I think that one of the foremost points to take away from the census is that there are things which are widely accepted to be true (aka: "obvious") which are not necessarily so.
If you repeat a statement often enough, people will begin to believe it. Their believe doesn't make it true.
I think that everything in your comment indicates that the GP is actually invalid in spirit. That post indicated a belief that code is commonly copied and pasted.
If programmers try to conform to patterns (etc.) you'll see more instances where they write similar looking code but do not copy and paste.
If programmers try to accomplish similar tasks using compact vocabularies and operators, again, they're more likely to write similar looking code without copying and pasting.
The PDFs provided seem pretty damning.
Let me guess, you're neither a programmer nor a lawyer. Am I right?
Just because 2 programs have hooks or functions called "ReadX" does not mean there was any copying involved.
On the other hand...
OF COURSE he is going to write the same commands he has used a thousand times in the same way
I'm sure this is one of the reasons it's best to call the system GNU: Linus didn't write any of the "commands". Linus wrote a kernel and GNU ended up adopting it. The GNU project wrote the system "commands".
Just do the search.
Trivia: Actually, the people at exbiblio found that there is very little repetition of text in literature. Any four or five word sequence in a common magazine article is likely to appear in very few or no other texts. That fact is foundational to their technology.
See, I always read this on Slashdot, and then I read "I love my iPhone" everywhere else
It's called groupthink. You see it here on Slashdot, too. There are highly rated comments in this thread written by people who acknowledge design problems like a poor proximity sensor and include the way that the poster works around that problem.
People will attribute flaws that exist in Apple products to themselves and find a way around them because they must in order to continue to believe that Apple products are the height of wonder. If Apple products are an expression of their self, then criticism of Apple products is a criticism of their self.
EVO battery life depends a lot on usage. I've been told that email sync, in particular, can be draining if your volume is large since that forces the radio to be active more often.
I've had an EVO for about a week now, and I've had much better batter life than I did with my Palm Pre. With what I think is a fair amount of use, it looks like I'd get two full days out of a charge. I've actually seen it last more than 24 hours on a charge, which I never saw with a Pre.
I think the EVO is suffering that common problem: the vocal minority.
I'm sorry, wait a year? If I get a defective product, ...
I believe that he meant don't buy one for a year, until a working model is available rather than "stroke your broken phone for a year and wait".
Anyone who'd used Palm's devices before the iPhone would say that the iPhone was an evolutionary improvement that imitated most of the Palm features. An awful lot of Apple fans use the word "revolutionary" when they mean "I never owned a PDA/phone".
I think I tried 4.4 a few weeks ago on Fedora. It couldn't configure my dual-screen layout to be side-by-side instead of mirrored (the default configuration). That one failure ended my evaluation of KDE.
I'd imagine you've configured your layout elsewhere.
All this puts Wikipedia in the confusing position of not allowing a page for an undefined word whose meaning is defined via the Wikipedia page for that word
...which makes it a tautology!
I don't believe that Fedora anywhere claims to have 24 million users. Rather, they publish that a total of around 21 million IPs have connected to their repositories since Fedora 6. None of their published statistics support the belief that there are anywhere near that number of users, currently.
The difference between Fedora and Ubuntu, though, is that Fedora is completely transparent about their user estimates:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Statistics
Ubuntu's numbers come from God-only-knows where.
It's easy to name something that users should care about: If Apple decides what applications are allowed, they're free to prohibit applications which implement the functionality of Apple applications in a better way. If competitors can't improve the system, that's something that I care about both as a user and a developer.
As others have already pointed out, in the most recent interview I've seen, Linus uses Fedora. To it's credit, he noted that he likes Ubuntu.
That story is more than a year old!
RHX was intended to be a marketplace. Software and support contracts were to be sold there. Here is an article covering its release; it's one of the wikipedia references.
Synaptic and Software Center are tools, like PackageKit and up2date are in Fedora and RHEL. RHX wasn't an tool.
So watch that, too! :)
It was just last week that Sony announced that "hey guess what? Even though you bought the PS3 thinking online networking would be free, well not anymore suckas!".
I must have missed that. Sony is still advertising the Playstation Network as "100% Free". Where did they announce the change last week?
If you think that's amazing, you should see "Yojimbo". "Fistful of Dollars" was a remake. So were "The Last Man Standing" and "The Warrior and the Sorceress."
With 300+ Linux distributions, ReactOS is just one more dead OSes.
(oh noes! cue-in the linux fanbois who'll troll-label this comment!)
Or "-1, uninformed." ReactOS is not based on Linux, and includes no Linux code.
To this day I'm convinced that if MS would ditch their kernel and slap their OS on top of the Linux/kernel, much like Apple sat it's OS on BSD/Mach, it would have a better chance to finally shut Apple up.
Which is further evidence that you have no idea what you're talking about. Remember when OS X was released? How did they provide backward compatibility? The old OS was run in a VM! When Apple switched to OS X, they basically completely abandoned the old OS. It's highly unlikely that MS would do that, as the backward compatibility is primarily what holds their user and developer communities together (respectively). If they introduced a completely new system, it would give both communities a chance to re-assess their ties to MS and definitely provide a chance for them to escape.