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Narcissists, Insecure People Flock To Facebook

Meshach writes "A study out of Canada claims that Facebook is a magnet for narcissists and people with low self-esteem. The theory is that these people use the site as a means of self promotion or to feel important."

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  1. HOLY CRAP!! by Ambiguous+Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I mean, really, WOW!

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    1. Re:HOLY CRAP!! by AliasMarlowe · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I mean, really, WOW!

      It's not as surprising as that. In fact, I would not call it much of a surprise at all.
      Probably the same can be said for MySpace and any other "social" site - they appeal to some mix of the insecure (such as teenagers) and the narcissistic (a particular kind of sociopath, often an adult). I had a FaceBook account for a short while, then saw what other people were doing there (people I know), and decided not to be a part of the vacuous trumpeting that substitutes for interaction. My FaceBook account was zombified quite a while ago - all its content deleted.

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    2. Re:HOLY CRAP!! by DanTheStone · · Score: 5, Interesting

      They're extrapolating too far outside the sample. The sample was 100 university students. They don't adequately represent the population that uses Facebook. Plus, we have no idea how they ranked the narcissism and self-esteem listed in TFA. If narcissism was determined by how much you tell other people about what you do, of course people using Facebook would rank highly on that scale.

    3. Re:HOLY CRAP!! by Ambiguous+Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      At least we know your sarcasometer is properly calibrated. :)

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    4. Re:HOLY CRAP!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      *woosh*

    5. Re:HOLY CRAP!! by networkBoy · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Based on the number of friends I have, and the number of announcements of "hey join me at farm wars" Vs. "hai Im in ur survey you can haz cheezburger" Vs. "L@@K at me, L@@K what I did 11!111!!!" I'd say that the survey is fairly accurate. Taking that further to the couple people I *know* to have low self esteem and the one true narcissist I know, and how much time they spend on FB, yeah I think the survey is spot on.
      -nB

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    6. Re:HOLY CRAP!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anonymous Coward: likes this!

    7. Re:HOLY CRAP!! by theshowmecanuck · · Score: 1

      Sarcasm^2

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    8. Re:HOLY CRAP!! by Yaztromo · · Score: 4, Informative

      Plus, we have no idea how they ranked the narcissism and self-esteem listed in TFA.

      You just need to find a better article:

      The more prolific the Facebook activity, the lower they rated on the Rosenberg Self-Esteem Scale and the higher in the Narcissism Personality Inventory.

      Or from the published research itself:

      After agreeing to participate in this research study, Facebook owners were administered a brief four-part questionnaire. The first section required demographic information, including the participant's age and gender. The second section addressed Facebook activity; it required respondents to indicate the number of times they check their Facebook page per day and the time spent on Facebook per session. The remaining sections assessed two psychological constructs: self-esteem and narcissism.

      The Rosenberg Self-Esteem Scale was used to measure participant self-esteem. This 10-item test measured self-esteem using a 4-point Likert scale, ranging from strongly disagree to strongly agree. Example items include “On the whole, I am satisfied with myself” and “I take a positive attitude toward myself.” The original reliability of this scale is 0.72. This measure has gained acceptable internal consistency and test–retest reliability, as well as convergent and discriminant validity.

      Narcissism was assessed using the Narcissism Personality Inventory (NPI)-16. The NPI-16 is a shorter, unidimensional measure of the NPI-40. While the 40-item measure revealed an =0.84, the NPI-16 has an =0.72. Despite this discrepancy, the two measures are correlated at r=0.90 (p

      And now you know.

      Yaz.

    9. Re:HOLY CRAP!! by hedwards · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yeah, I call bullshit on that. Twitter is the site of narcissists.

    10. Re:HOLY CRAP!! by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

      I wouldn't know. I'm too busy displaying my narcissism on /.

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    11. Re:HOLY CRAP!! by BasilBrush · · Score: 1

      Presumably they don't keep their vacuous, illiterate comments just to Facebook. You need better friends.

    12. Re:HOLY CRAP!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Take it where it came from, YorkU ..:P

    13. Re:HOLY CRAP!! by stealth_finger · · Score: 1

      Next on the not really news network. Exhibitionists and people who like exposing themselves head to chatroulette.

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    14. Re:HOLY CRAP!! by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      Considering 50% or so of our population have a degree of some kind and have graduated from college, university or both. And somewhere around ~20 million out of 33 million people use it, it's probably closer to the truth than you'd expect.

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    15. Re:HOLY CRAP!! by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 1

      Sky may be blue. Our recent study indicates that many people perceive a colour when looking at an unobstructed sky. In English-speaking countries, the word most often used to describe that colour is "blue".

      In fact, many people who wish to simply define "blue", use the sky as a reference.

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    16. Re:HOLY CRAP!! by causality · · Score: 2, Insightful

      At least we know your sarcasometer is properly calibrated. :)

      I hate to break it to you and to Slashdot in general, but not every response to the underlying sentiment behind the sarcasm is a failure to understand that it was, in fact, sarcasm. The uptake of this idea is low because it might give the peanut gallery a little less to chuckle about.

      About Facebook, I've been saying this for a long time now on various other Slashdot stories that mention it. I usually use the term "exhibitionist" to describe what is clearly not a desire that would occur to mentally healthy people with joyful fulfilling lives. The reason I don't participate in sites like Facebook is because I don't need the casual attention of strangers and distant acquaintences in order to feel special and important.

      If I had a need to feel special and important at all it would be a sign that I need to check my ego. Those things are a chasing after the wind. At their best, they can produce a momentary sense of gratification shortly followed by a need for more. There's no lasting joy, meaning, or well-being to be found in them. They're as empty as the hollow people who chase after them hoping to find a sense of worth. There's no real fulfillment, just a bunch of fools looking to be filled with the attentions of others.

      That's why social networking sites have been a big headline-making craze, a trendy bandwagon, and not just another thing people happen to be doing for the fun of it. It has to be glamorous and talked-about and made into a public spectacle. That's what the people who flock to it have a deep-seated unhealthy need to experience. The trend and the headlines are just rushing in to fill their vacuum. What a sorry substitute for addressing the real problems of the deep sense of alienation, fear, pessimism, divisiveness, selfishness, need for drama, lack of community, and lack of love that so thoroughly characterizes modern society.

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    17. Re:HOLY CRAP!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you do sound like a narcissist

    18. Re:HOLY CRAP!! by rundgong · · Score: 1
      Notice how the summary does NOT say all Facebook users are narcissist or have low self-esteem.

      Causality. Sometimes it is important...

      FTFA:

      The study doesn't go so far as to say that all heavy users of Facebook are narcissists or people with very low self-esteem, but that both those with a strong and weak sense of self use Facebook to assert their best view of themselves.

    19. Re:HOLY CRAP!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They used standard validated questionnaires to measure narcissism and self-esteem. The slashdot summary of course has little relationship to the actual study, which doesn't examine who uses facebook but the amount of time spent on facebook. The relevant extrapolation would be that among the general facebook population there is a positive correlation between the amount of time spent on facebook and narcissism/self-esteem. The study has some visible methodological weaknesses (single coder for example) and some issues that are not adequately explained (how was sample selected, was coder blinded etc), as well the issue of extrapolation, and cause and effect issues, but I would be surprised if the results were not replicated (and very surprised if no one replicates the study in one form or another).

    20. Re:HOLY CRAP!! by MyLongNickName · · Score: 1

      Based on the number of friends I have, and the number of announcements of "hey join me at farm wars" Vs. "hai Im in ur survey you can haz cheezburger" Vs. "L@@K at me, L@@K what I did 11!111!!!" I'd say that the survey is fairly accurate

      Wouldn't this more accurately be a commentary on your friend choosing skills, and possibly your character as well?

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    21. Re:HOLY CRAP!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And yet, somehow, you savor praise (and karma!) for your thoughtful and insightful posts. Hypocrisy, thy name is causality.

    22. Re:HOLY CRAP!! by CarpetShark · · Score: 1

      I'd say that the survey is fairly accurate. Taking that further...I think the survey is spot on.

      That may be the worst attempt at logic I've ever read ;)

    23. Re:HOLY CRAP!! by networkBoy · · Score: 1

      :heh:
      Sadly you can not choose family.
      fully 3/4 of my friends on FB are family, and while most are sane normal people, it's easier to add the freaks than it is to not add them and deal with the fallout at thanksgiving and Christmas.

      Did I mention my cousin tried claiming her cats as dependents to the IRS one year (she was not joking and really thought that was OK, because they depend on her)? We don't let her do her (or anyone else's for that matter) taxes anymore.

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    24. Re:HOLY CRAP!! by networkBoy · · Score: 1

      We're discussing a study about facebook on /. WTF does logic have to do with it? ;)

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    25. Re:HOLY CRAP!! by MyLongNickName · · Score: 1

      Point 1) You said friends. I assumed you meant IRL
      Point 2) You do not need to friend family members. I don't.
      Point 3) Your family isn't necessarilly a representation of society as a whole.

      I have a few people I want to keep in touch with but know I won't call. Facebook is good for this. I think I have 20 friends. It works well for me, and I spend less than ten minutes a day on it. I also wouldn't hold my 20 friends up as the average Facebooker.

      The more I think about it, the more I think I need to cull about four people from my list...

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    26. Re:HOLY CRAP!! by icebike · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The most prominent objections to the story on the CTV linked story were from people (claim to) who use Facebook as a means to keep up with old friends.

      Fair enough. But one has to ask if this is all that healthy in and of itself. In the history of human kind, people move on in life. Old friends remain, but new friends are made.

      One wonders how many of these "friendship maintainers" are really substituting old friends for new ones, clinging to some happy period in their past, and cutting themselves off from the present. Its not that normal to be involved in or even knowledgeable of the day to day lives of people you do not communicate directly with. It never has been.

      Is there any gratification in Facebook? (I wouldn't know, never signed up). Is there really as much grandiosity as you suggest? Or is it more just a means of clinging?

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    27. Re:HOLY CRAP!! by Brian+Feldman · · Score: 1

      At their best, they can produce a momentary sense of gratification shortly followed by a need for more. There's no lasting joy, meaning, or well-being to be found in them.

      Brother, that's life. Period. Get your ephemeral joy in because there is no other kind of happiness to be had.

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    28. Re:HOLY CRAP!! by Gyorg_Lavode · · Score: 1

      I prefer the updates, "OMG pray for me to get through this", "wow, just wow", and "I'll get through this". To everyone who's posted those, "NO. I WILL NOT ASK WHAT YOU ARE REFERING TO!"

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    29. Re:HOLY CRAP!! by mellon · · Score: 1

      Of course, anybody who believes in self-improvement is going to test low for self-esteem if self-esteem is measured on the basis of how satisfied one is with oneself...

    30. Re:HOLY CRAP!! by AngryNick · · Score: 1

      We're discussing a study about facebook on /.

      Thanks for pointing that out. I suddenly feel dirty and have the urge to proceed to the next article, which is entitled "BP's Gulf Spill Report Shows String of Failures".

      on second thought...perhaps I should just get back to work.

    31. Re:HOLY CRAP!! by Bob-taro · · Score: 2, Funny

      I had a FaceBook account for a short while, then saw what other people were doing there (people I know), and decided not to be a part of the vacuous trumpeting that substitutes for interaction.

      Fortunately, you'll find none of that in this forum!

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    32. Re:HOLY CRAP!! by uncledrax · · Score: 1

      Here here!

      I was surprised when /. didn't already have this story tagged as 'duh' or 'obvious'.. as it just sort of seemed it to me.. I know people that refuse to use Friend Face (myself included after giving it a go), people that only occasionally use it (which seem better adjusted), and people that simply -live- on Friend Face (and, although they are some of my closest friends, do seem to feed on the near constant attention it can provide).

      This was true, but in a less-as-instantly-gratifying effect, as Live Journal or other 'social blogging' mechanisms before it. I never used MySpace at all, but I imagine it was on the same scale of bad.

      I would be interested in actual statistical data of Friend Face usage patterns, coupled with basic personality testing or some other similar head-shrinkage metric to see where crossovers and outliers exist in the two.

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    33. Re:HOLY CRAP!! by darien.train · · Score: 1

      Agreed. Facebook is practically it's own (crappy) operating system. It's not easy to pigeon-hole it's user personas as so many people use it for very different reason and functions. If I were to estimate off-hand (I do this for a living so know how stupid that is) the number of unique facebook user personas would be around 20 or 30.

      Twitter is essentially the condensation of everything purely narcissist about Facebook and attracts that crowd in spades. Even people I respect in normal media conditions sound like such idiots on Twitter. I refudiate them.

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    34. Re:HOLY CRAP!! by Gilmoure · · Score: 1

      At least Hot or Not isn't on the list.

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    35. Re:HOLY CRAP!! by Gilmoure · · Score: 1

      I haven't made a new friend in the last 12 years. Why should I? I have good friends I can trust and they trust me, we get along well and still get together as our travels permit. Most of these friends go back 20 years or so but a few go all the way back to first grade (36 years or so). Why should friends be dropped and replaced?

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    36. Re:HOLY CRAP!! by Gilmoure · · Score: 1

      Dood! Look at my /. id.

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    37. Re:HOLY CRAP!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I usually use the term "exhibitionist" to describe what is clearly not a desire that would occur to mentally healthy people with joyful fulfilling lives.

      Does that mean I shouldn't walk around with my dick hanging out?

    38. Re:HOLY CRAP!! by SlashDev · · Score: 1

      Not sure how you got a score of 5, HOLY CRAP! I mean reaaaally, WOW!

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    39. Re:HOLY CRAP!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Based on the number of friends I have, and the number of announcements of "hey join me at farm wars" Vs. "hai Im in ur survey you can haz cheezburger" Vs. "L@@K at me, L@@K what I did 11!111!!!" I'd say that the survey is fairly accurate. Taking that further to the couple people I *know* to have low self esteem and the one true narcissist I know, and how much time they spend on FB, yeah I think the survey is spot on.
      -nB

      A true narc is representative of only 1% of the population go figure...

    40. Re:HOLY CRAP!! by vandelais · · Score: 1

      You're the fake Steve Jobs, aren't you?

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    41. Re:HOLY CRAP!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But look at me! I am one of you! I read slashdot! But I have no account yet...

      (kidding, I do.) :)

      Let them play building a farm and invite the girls they like to their neighborhood and show off how they think what type of baseballbat you are by asking you about pizza and colors, and what that means to your sexual life.

      everybody needs a little bit of attention and affirmation, sometimes we just hide it better, enjoy 5 code usernumbers and 100 +5 comments insightfully modded and having a funny sig leading you to a beautiful picture with a goatse. I would not call a phase in life, where people are more extrapolated and explore and enjoy those small games and stuff a while, narcissists, immediately.

      Nerds are cool now. Relax.

    42. Re:HOLY CRAP!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You might start by asking what is wrong in your life that you find a perfectly reasonable and healthy motivation for using Facebook to be so questionable. Seriously.

    43. Re:HOLY CRAP!! by causality · · Score: 1

      And yet, somehow, you savor praise (and karma!) for your thoughtful and insightful posts. Hypocrisy, thy name is causality.

      Praise happens -- that is the decision of anyone who decides to praise and beyond my control. Slashdot karma happens -- that is Rob Malda's design decision for this site and beyond my control. I solicit neither. Unless you think those things should be outlawed so that the government can use physical force or the threat thereof to suppress them, then what does that have to do with me? Hell, even if you ARE suggesting that, it has nothing to do with me.

      What I'm really after is quality discussion. Maybe somebody will cause me to consider an idea that I'd have never thought of on my own. Maybe somebody will show me the error of my ways and I can shed a false belief that I didn't know I had. Or maybe someone will reinforce my position and let me see what it looks like from another point of view.

      I'd love to know what part of this is so troublesome for you. My bet is that you're not capable of articulating an argument against it, though that might not stop you from trying.

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    44. Re:HOLY CRAP!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The dime-store psychology investment sounds like it's paying off. :)

    45. Re:HOLY CRAP!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i praise you for two tldr posts in a row

    46. Re:HOLY CRAP!! by causality · · Score: 2, Insightful

      At their best, they can produce a momentary sense of gratification shortly followed by a need for more. There's no lasting joy, meaning, or well-being to be found in them.

      Brother, that's life. Period. Get your ephemeral joy in because there is no other kind of happiness to be had.

      A lot of people feel the way that you do. I used to, in fact.

      After you've suffered enough of that, which unfortunately may take years, what you realize is that the joy you derive from doing the right thing, from loving and looking after your fellow human being, from all of those unsolicited and unexpected acts of kindness and understanding, those were the only things that really mattered. Those are the things that the world can't take away from you unless you permit it.

      There's something noble and uplifting about serving your fellow human being with no thought of reward or even basic gratitude. There's something "overcoming" about having patience for the next slight, the next sling and arrow that some ignorant individual may hurl your way.

      The most amazing thing of all is when people who need a good example gravitate quite naturally into your life without your input or your planning. Then you find that there are many wounded spirits in this world who don't understand the damage that they do. Then you find that a few of them are ready for something better and all they need is someone to represent for them what that means, not by putting on an act, but by being who you really are.

      For me, THAT is life. Not the cynical picture that you portray. Gratification is empty and hollow and meaningless by comparison. It is attractive only to those who know nothing better, friend.

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    47. Re:HOLY CRAP!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      tldr == "totally ridiculous delay in reciprocity"?

    48. Re:HOLY CRAP!! by causality · · Score: 1

      i praise you for two tldr posts in a row

      What, you were "too lazy and didn't read" it?

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    49. Re:HOLY CRAP!! by SudoGhost · · Score: 1

      According to the study, people with insecurities manage their image by hiding physical features or personality traits they don't like and putting forward only what they see as the best of themselves.

      Maybe I'm missing something, but don't all people do this to some extent?

      They only sampled college students? Wouldn't the results then be "insecure college students flock to facebook"? I don't understand what...

      Narcissism and Self-Esteem on Facebook was written by York University undergraduate student Soraya Mehdizadeh.

      Ah...now I see. A college student did this 'study' and found that she couldn't get a date....err...people are narcissists and full of themselves. It seems a bit odd that a college student studying college students that she likely knows is considered scientific.

    50. Re:HOLY CRAP!! by deek · · Score: 1

      Well, it's not that obvious. I thought that Facebook was mainly full of the mildly voyeuristic. It seems a good place to go to check on what all your friends are doing, without the bothersome social interaction that sometimes necessitates. ;)

      Myself, I prefer to keep things a mystery, and actually have something to talk about when that social interaction eventually happens.

    51. Re:HOLY CRAP!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you must be a college student...

    52. Re:HOLY CRAP!! by Tetsujin · · Score: 1

      At least we know your sarcasometer is properly calibrated. :)

      Wouldn't that be a sarcasmometer?

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    53. Re:HOLY CRAP!! by Tetsujin · · Score: 1

      At least we know your sarcasometer is properly calibrated. :)

      I hate to break it to you and to Slashdot in general, but not every response to the underlying sentiment behind the sarcasm is a failure to understand that it was, in fact, sarcasm.

      If you reply to a sarcastic message, and in your reply take the sarcastic message according to its literal meaning, then it's fair to say you've failed to interpret the message correctly, whether intentionally or not. The literal interpretation of the message is not its "underlying sentiment".

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    54. Re:HOLY CRAP!! by Tetsujin · · Score: 1

      Tetsujin likes the comment:

      I prefer the updates, "OMG pray for me to get through this", "wow, just wow", and "I'll get through this". To everyone who's posted those, "NO. I WILL NOT ASK WHAT YOU ARE REFERING TO!"

      on /.

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    55. Re:HOLY CRAP!! by Ambiguous+Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Naw, doesn't roll off the tongue as nicely. :)

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  2. Work from home by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Or people that work from home and wouldn't otherwise see the light of day!

  3. ...what ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    They needed a fucking study to see that ?

    1. Re:...what ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      It's called the scientific method. Maybe you've heard of it. It requires you to not believe something just because everyone knows it.

    2. Re:...what ? by Zeek40 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      In related news, a three year long Canadian study that recently concluded has revealed that snow is cold and water is wet.

    3. Re:...what ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Sure they do. The sort of people that do this type of study are also narcissists, and use bloody-fucking-obvious "research" to promote themselves, and make themselves seem important.

    4. Re:...what ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In meta-related news, a 28-year taxpayer funded study concluded that studies typically conclude things that are known prior to the study.

    5. Re:...what ? by vux984 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      They needed a fucking study to see that ?

      If they said it without a study we'd have a bunch of "[citation please]" followed by sarcastic comments that a few anecdotes are meaningless, and how they happen know a bunch of humble self-assured people who use facebook a lot too.

      So yes, they needed a fucking study. Its how we separate truth from truthiness. Science at work. Just because it confirms what most people might beleive is true doesn't make it unworthy of study. Sometimes looking into things that most people believe is true has surprising results.

    6. Re:...what ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In related news, a three year long Canadian study that recently concluded has revealed that snow is cold and water is wet.

      You overlooked another important Canadian study which concluded that death is the leading cause of mortality.

    7. Re:...what ? by hufman · · Score: 2, Funny

      So all we have to do is reduce the risk of death! We can live forever!

    8. Re:...what ? by chaboud · · Score: 2, Insightful

      But we're willing to take a priori definitions of narcissists and people with low self-esteem?

      We're way into the deep end of the soft-science pool here, and it's not a big pull-back reveal that narcissists and those with low self-esteem seek out essentially risk-free forms of socialization and fora for self-aggrandizement.

      Worse still, the study was conducted on a set of just 100 students, which hardly seems like a statistically sound sample unless the biases are off the charts. Additionally, we couldn't say from a survey like this if the behaviors were correlative or causal. To her credit, the author doesn't appear to make such a leap.

      Still, sampling bias, causation, statistical significance, and control all seem to interfere with the possible validity of any significant conclusions that we could draw, even the obvious ones. It's an undergraduate student, though. She's could be just passive-aggressive and looking to rip on her dorm-mates behind the veil of science.

      I mean, why not?

    9. Re:...what ? by chaboud · · Score: 2, Funny

      We should run a study just to be sure.

    10. Re:...what ? by blai · · Score: 1

      Sounds complicated - I may to read the thesis to see how I can reproduce the same results.

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    11. Re:...what ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They needed a fucking study to see that ?

      Must have been a goverment grant

    12. Re:...what ? by KingAlanI · · Score: 2, Insightful

      exactly - "it's obvious" snarkiness seems to be an example of attitudes from people confused about the nature of science
      Either that, or they know science and mark stuff like this as a lower priority considering limited research resources.
      There is some value in the details of what seems obvious, even if the basic premise holds

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    13. Re:...what ? by saider · · Score: 1

      Caveat: The University of Florida had trouble reproducing the snow experiment. Water was confirmed to be wet and also found to be infested with large reptiles.

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    14. Re:...what ? by hedwards · · Score: 1

      Wait a minute, sometimes snow is wet and water is cold. Or didn't they cover that in the previous study? Quick to the grant writer's office.

    15. Re:...what ? by Daniel+Phillips · · Score: 1

      They needed a fucking study to see that ?

      What they apparently didn't notice is that narcissists are always people with low self esteem (though the converse isn't necessarily true). The narcissist loves an image of themself that is improved or perfected in some way and does not correspond to their actual self. They do not hold their actual self in high esteem, which is why they create the image. Unfortunately, this situation is all too common, with sad effects for all concerned.

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    16. Re:...what ? by Zeek40 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but we're talking about psychology, which is about as scientific as tarot card readings.

    17. Re:...what ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In related news, a three year long Canadian study that recently concluded has revealed that snow is cold and water is wet.

      Seriously buddy, get your facts straight...it is a 10 year study and they haven't completed it yet...

    18. Re:...what ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So yes, they needed a fucking study. Its how we separate truth from truthiness. Science at work. Just because it confirms what most people might beleive is true doesn't make it unworthy of study. Sometimes looking into things that most people believe is true has surprising results.

      Not to mention excellent entertainment.

    19. Re:...what ? by cjb658 · · Score: 1

      What they apparently didn't notice is that narcissists are always people with low self esteem (though the converse isn't necessarily true). The narcissist loves an image of themself that is improved or perfected in some way and does not correspond to their actual self. They do not hold their actual self in high esteem, which is why they create the image. Unfortunately, this situation is all too common, with sad effects for all concerned.

      "Narcissists with low self-esteem" sounds like an oxymoron.

      Or something from Arrested Development.

    20. Re:...what ? by dhall · · Score: 1

      And we wonder why in this jaded age of short attention spans it's difficult to prove anything scientifically. Damned if you do, and damned if you don't.

      “...Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but usually manages to pick himself up, walk over or around it, and carry on.” - Churchill

    21. Re:...what ? by KingAlanI · · Score: 1

      what part(s) got the Insightful? Thanks. :)

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    22. Re:...what ? by syousef · · Score: 1

      So yes, they needed a fucking study.

      Well they picked the wrong people. These people have low self esteem and no lives so there's not much fucking going on.

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    23. Re:...what ? by Daniel+Phillips · · Score: 1

      "Narcissists with low self-esteem" sounds like an oxymoron.

      Narcissists have high esteem for the fictional self they create and low esteem for their real self, no contradiction.

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    24. Re:...what ? by ebuck · · Score: 1

      In related news, a three year long Canadian study that recently concluded has revealed that snow is cold and water is wet.

      That's funny, I would have thought that the water in Canada was cold too.

    25. Re:...what ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd say it's the opposite. Insecure people fuck a lot more.

    26. Re:...what ? by wzzzzrd · · Score: 1

      They needed a fucking study to see that ?

      Na, they went with the ordinary study.

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    27. Re:...what ? by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Who needs to do a study to prove that the world is flat, when everyone just knows it is? It's common sense, obviously if it was a globe you'd fall off when you got to the opposite side. I mean, come on, do we even need to discuss this?

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    28. Re:...what ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's called the scientific method. Maybe you've heard of it. It requires you to not believe something just because everyone knows it.

      OK, first of all the summary bears NO reflection on the claims of the study. I'll quote from the story:

      A recent study of Canadian university students suggests the heaviest users of Facebook are narcissists and people with low self-esteem.

      That's a LOT different than

      Facebook is a magnet for narcissists and people with low self-esteem.

      And to be accurate to the actual study, even the original article is in error. It should have said A recent study shows that Canadian University students who spend excessive time on FB tend to be narcissists or people with low self-esteem

      Well shit, that's totally different than the summary.

  4. Among others... by divisionbyzero · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No doubt they do. And they are probably among millions of others who go there to keep connected with friends that they wouldn't otherwise be able to. Vain people look in mirrors a lot. Does that mean only people who are vain own mirrors? What a ridiculous study.

    1. Re:Among others... by Kristopeit,+M.+D. · · Score: 0, Troll
      the reply you're looking for is: "correlation does not imply causation", and fairly obvious.

      not looking good today canadian theorists.

    2. Re:Among others... by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 5, Funny

      You're so vain, you probably think this post is about you.

    3. Re:Among others... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      RTFA. "The study doesn't go so far as to say that all heavy users of Facebook are narcissists or people with very low self-esteem"

      Yeah, I know, this is slashdot and knee-jerk reactions deliver guaranteed karma.

    4. Re:Among others... by bouldin · · Score: 1

      The article claims narcissists and people with low self-esteem are heavy users of facebook, it doesn't say they are the only users of facebook.

      This drags down facebook, because narcissists are not very interesting.

    5. Re:Among others... by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Funny

      RTFA. "The study doesn't go so far as to say that all heavy users of Facebook are narcissists or people with very low self-esteem"

      "In fact," the researchers added, "we have reason to suspect that as many as a dozen FaceBook users are well-adjusted, mentally healthy, members of society."

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    6. Re:Among others... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Canadian study shows that dumb asses use google to look up items they know nothing about.

    7. Re:Among others... by jdgeorge · · Score: 1

      Baloney. I'm a narcissist, but I'm not a frequent user of Facebook. In fact, the only reason I use Facebook at all is that it prevents ISPs from automatically filtering as spam the frequent emails I used to send to each of my 2,351,672 female admirers with photographs of me engaged in my latest adventure, and the regular helpful advice I send to my 14,843,590 less fortunate male friends about how to improve their physique or... ahem... performance... to more closely resemble my own and benefit their flagging social lives.

      Oh, and as it happens, I DO have one eye in the mirror as I watch myself go by.

    8. Re:Among others... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're so vain, you probably think this post is about you.

      Fantastic retort. I commend you, sir.

    9. Re:Among others... by Yaztromo · · Score: 1, Informative

      the reply you're looking for is: "correlation does not imply causation", and fairly obvious.

      not looking good today canadian theorists.

      Really? Did you actually read the paper in question before making such an accusation?

      As predicted, there was a significant positive correlation between individuals who scored higher on the NPI-16, the number of times Facebook was checked per day, and the time spent on Facebook per session. This result is consistent with the findings presented in another study that examined narcissism and Facebook activity.

      Given these findings, it was hypothesized that narcissists would present a similar opportunity for self-promotion on Facebook. Results partially supported this hypothesis. Significant positive correlations were found between scores on the NPI-16 and self-promotion in the following areas: Main Photo, View Photos (20), Status Updates, and Notes. However, a Pearson correlation analysis failed to show a significant correlation between narcissism and About Me self-promotion.

      (Emphasis added).

      Indeed, the researcher spends her entire time pointing out in her paper that she found a variety of interesting correlations, and acknowledges the limitations of her research methodology. She doesn't once draw any definitive conclusions that the research means anything.

      I'd say it's looking significantly better for Canadian theorists (well, in this case, a student) than it is for armchair /. posters who can't even be bothered to read the research as presented before commenting on it.

      Yaz.

    10. Re:Among others... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And the researchers further added, "Sadly, we have strong reasons to suspect that each and every /. poster is a maladjusted, mentally-ill, sexually repressed member of society..."

    11. Re:Among others... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are dozens of us. Dozens!

    12. Re:Among others... by DarthVain · · Score: 1

      I resemble that remark... :(

    13. Re:Among others... by joerg.daehn · · Score: 1

      I love Carly Simon, too. Beside myself that is.

    14. Re:Among others... by DarthVain · · Score: 1

      Oh an before people start thinking of me as an Emo Sith, my handle doesn't mean that.

      Back in the early very early 90's I needed a handle for BBS's and the like and wanted a hacker name.

      So I came up with DarthVain.

      Darth referred to the DeathStar which was the hacker inside joke about the Ma Bell logo at the time.

      Vain referred to a character in the series of books called The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant, by Stephen R. Donaldson that I was currently reading.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Chronicles_of_Thomas_Covenant,_the_Unbeliever

      Ur-viles are creatures of jet black color and are constructions of an extinct race named the Demondim. They are highly magical, possessing a number of supernatural abilities, including shooting acid, creating bolts of pure energy and the like. They are also blind, but have a preternatural sense of smell. One of their most distinctive features is that when assembled in a wedge formation, the leader (or loremaster) at the apex wields the combined power of the entire group, without weakening any of their kin in the rest of the wedge. The Ur-viles initially served Lord Foul, but later turned against him by creating the creature Vain (from which the new Staff of Law was created). In The Runes of the Earth, the Ur-viles have actively joined the side of "good", though their motivation remains unclear. Because they were made rather than born, the Ur-viles loathe their own bodies and often redirect this rage towards other targets. They also do not die (except when killed) or reproduce.

      I have also seen him described as a "perfectly engineered" ebony humanoid and of having a "programmed purpose" after the fact.

      So there you have it. Perhaps not so great, but better than Emo Sith.

    15. Re:Among others... by cayenne8 · · Score: 1
      "You're so vain, you probably think this post is about you."

      You had one eye in the mirror as you watched yourself gavotte...

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    16. Re:Among others... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and you probably own a mirror

    17. Re:Among others... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Soooo....wait.

      You just went into great detail about your nick, and why you chose it.

      In a thread about narcissism.

      Yeah. Facebook. Buncha fuckin exhibitionist, narcissistic fuckers.

      (Or is that the joke?)

    18. Re:Among others... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're so vain, you probably think this post is about you.

      Hey let me just ask the /. community about this.

      If the song is not about whoever "you/your/yourself/you're" refers to? then who/what the hell is it about? Just look at the lyrics...

      You walked into the party
      Like you were walking onto a yacht
      Your hat strategically dipped below one eye
      Your scarf it was apricot
      You had one eye in the mirror
      As you watched yourself gavotte
      And all the girls dreamed that they'd be your partner
      They'd be your partner, and

      You're so vain
      You probably think this song is about you
      You're so vain
      I'll bet you think this song is about you
      Don't you? Don't you?

      You had me several years ago
      When I was still quite naive
      Well, you said that we made such a pretty pair
      And that you would never leave
      But you gave away the things you loved
      And one of them was me
      I had some dreams they were clouds in my coffee
      Clouds in my coffee, and

      You're so vain
      You probably think this song is about you
      You're so vain
      I'll bet you think this song is about you
      Don't you? Don't you?

      I had some dreams they were clouds in my coffee
      Clouds in my coffee, and

      You're so vain
      You probably think this song is about you
      You're so vain
      I'll bet you think this song is about you
      Don't you? Don't you?

      Well, I hear you went up to Saratoga
      And your horse naturally won
      Then you flew your Lear jet up to Nova Scotia
      To see the total eclipse of the sun
      Well, you're where you should be all the time
      And when you're not, you're with
      Some underworld spy or the wife of a close friend
      Wife of a close friend, and

      You're so vain
      You probably think this song is about you
      You're so vain
      I'll bet you think this song is about you
      Don't you? Don't you?

      I mean really, how many times would a person need to me refered to before a fucking song DOES become "about them"?

    19. Re:Among others... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm sure you think you're one of the dozen, don't you? ;)

    20. Re:Among others... by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      millions of others who go there to keep connected with friends that they wouldn't otherwise be able to

      What, in all those places that have the internet, but no access to postal or telephone services?

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    21. Re:Among others... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Intentionally or not, GP is rather hilarious.

    22. Re:Among others... by commodoresloat · · Score: 1

      Hey let me just ask the /. community about this.

      If the song is not about whoever "you/your/yourself/you're" refers to? then who/what the hell is it about?

      you.

  5. You're kidding me... by Rooked_One · · Score: 2, Funny

    You mean these people who used to (I deactivated my facebook account long ago) annoy the arse out of me with their childrens every bowel movement and that their workout was great are narcissists? And just want attention? I sense a book on facebook addiction and overcoming it coming out soon.

    1. Re:You're kidding me... by NJRoadfan · · Score: 1

      ...and here I was thinking they were all using Twitter for all that. Nothing makes you feel more important then tweeting to the world that you are driving to work, I mean everyone cares and takes the time about your mundane day to day tasks..... right? After all, Twitter is all about you, you, and you. For the insecure, nothing makes you feel more wanted then being able to follow celebrities... like Joy Behar.

    2. Re:You're kidding me... by digitalhermit · · Score: 1

      Just wanted to add that while I was vacationing in Maui a few weeks ago (please see the pictures), I drank a coffee.. Yum. I'm going to quote some lyrics:

      "The sun so bright it leaves no shadows, only scars, carved into stone on the face of the earth."

      I like cameras and coffee and pens.

      I joined the group, "Lost is retarded."

      I just added Radiohead to my list of Likes.

      Here's my new picture. It's me with the Dolphin cheerleaders. Yes, that's me.

      Here's me at Hard Rock. I'm too cool for Hard Rock. I'm too cool for Hard Rock though, so I have an appropriately bored expression.

      I like U2.

    3. Re:You're kidding me... by Rooked_One · · Score: 1

      The sky looks pretty today. :)

    4. Re:You're kidding me... by Joce640k · · Score: 2, Informative

      There's this thing where you can block people or even entirely remove them from your 'friends'...

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  6. Time for the followup by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Funny

    I can't wait to hear what they have to say about Slashdot.

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    1. Re:Time for the followup by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We're wise-asses, know-it-alls, and the socially inept.

    2. Re:Time for the followup by TheKidWho · · Score: 1

      Whom regularly engage in psuedo-intellectual dialogs.

    3. Re:Time for the followup by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anonymous, Insecure cowards flock to slashdot.

    4. Re:Time for the followup by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Whom regularly engage in psuedo-intellectual dialogs.

      _Who_ regularly engage in psuedo-intellectual dialogs :-)

    5. Re:Time for the followup by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      basement dwellers?

    6. Re:Time for the followup by Ironchew · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      Whom

      _Who_

      Ouch. Nothing like sneaking an antiquated word in there and still striking out with the Grammar Nazis.

    7. Re:Time for the followup by blai · · Score: 1

      among the top tiers of workers in the US who do nothing at work

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    8. Re:Time for the followup by chaboud · · Score: 1

      He said "psuedo-intellectual" dude. Also, unless you're both using hipster slang, you both missed that the spelling is "pseudo."

      Muphry? Perhaps I can go for the editing-fail trifecta.

    9. Re:Time for the followup by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Murphy.

    10. Re:Time for the followup by TheKidWho · · Score: 1

      We're stuck with IE at work, I've grown dependent on spell check through Chrome.

      That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it.

    11. Re:Time for the followup by partyguerrilla · · Score: 1

      Whom regularly engage in psuedo-intellectual dialogs.

      _Who_ regularly engage in psuedo-intellectual dialogs :-)

      Who regularly engage in PSEUDO-intellectual dialogs :3c

    12. Re:Time for the followup by chaboud · · Score: 1
    13. Re:Time for the followup by Thelasko · · Score: 1

      I can't wait to hear what they have to say about 4chan.

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    14. Re:Time for the followup by MSG · · Score: 1

      The word "whom" is not antiquated. It is the objective case of "who".

    15. Re:Time for the followup by tooyoung · · Score: 1

      Something along the lines of "Stories on deficiencies of Facebook are a magnet for narcissists and people with low self-esteem with small friend lists."

    16. Re:Time for the followup by Nimey · · Score: 1

      Irrelevant and past its prime.

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      E pluribus sanguinem
    17. Re:Time for the followup by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We're stuck with IE at work, I've grown dependent on spell check through Chrome.

      That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it.

      It wasn't a spelling mistake.

    18. Re:Time for the followup by TheKidWho · · Score: 1

      Psuedo/Pseudo most certainly is!

  7. Crap... by PmanAce · · Score: 1, Funny

    I'm a narcissistic low self-esteemer then, but not at the New Jersey Guido level though, I do not glow orange yet...

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    1. Re:Crap... by Culture20 · · Score: 1

      not at the New Jersey Guido level though, I do not glow orange yet...

      I think you may have found the perfect replacement spokespeople for OrangeGlow.

  8. Shameless promoters? by Haffner · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Most of my friends that are still active facebookers tend to use it for business means. One amusing direction for facebook would be a bunch of promoters saying "Hey, come to my club, you're cool just for coming!" and narcissists thinking, "Yeah, I should definitely go, it'll make me look cooler!" and in the end, facebook will be win-win-win, where the promoters, the narcissists, and the sane minority all get their way.

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    1. Re:Shameless promoters? by hoggoth · · Score: 2, Funny

      If by "club" you mean Sarlac Pit, then I'm all for it!

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    2. Re:Shameless promoters? by KingAlanI · · Score: 1

      Heh, one of my FB friends (old highscool classmate) does indeed kinda flog his music-producer business although he does have some non-business posts in the mix.
      However, it's natural to expect people to talk about something they're enthusiastic about, financial or not

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    3. Re:Shameless promoters? by veganboyjosh · · Score: 1

      in the end, facebook will be win-win-win, where the promoters, the narcissists, and the sane minority all get their way.

      You forgot to mention Facebook itself, who sells ads to companies. Ads which don't link people to the company's external website, but to Facebook itself, driving up the cost of ads that it sells to companies...

    4. Re:Shameless promoters? by Fulcrum+of+Evil · · Score: 1

      I really like this part of it - I have some of the local venues on my list, so I get to see which acts are playing when with out going to a bunch of websites. That, and one club in particular likes to run a bunch of theme nights, and FB is handy for that.

      Besides, how else do you propose we organize a roving house party with in excess of 100 attendees every week for the post college crowd?

      --
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    5. Re:Shameless promoters? by cjb658 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I have one friend who keeps "suggesting" that I would "like" certain businesses all the time.

      If he's getting paid to do it, how can I get paid to do the same thing?

      And if he isn't, WHY DOES HE DO IT?

  9. Little Late by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This article was posted about a week ago by CNN, and then i'm sure some else already beat them as well.

    1. Re:Little Late by hargrand · · Score: 1

      The narcissists and insecure people on ./ buried the story so as not to let the truth be known to those of us who only suspected something was amiss.

    2. Re:Little Late by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

      dotslash? Is that a new website I should join, or are you just dyslexic?

      --
      I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
  10. OTOH by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    One could just as easily say the same about people who publish "studies."

    1. Re:OTOH by flyingkillerrobots · · Score: 1

      I think your post is the only one not saying something to the effect of "duh". Thank you.

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      "It is a good thing for an uneducated man to read books of quotations..." -Winston Churchill
  11. Bullshit Trifecta by oldhack · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Bullshit study by a bullshit outfit ("Cyberpsychology, Behavior, and Social Networking") on a bullshit subject.

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    1. Re:Bullshit Trifecta by natehoy · · Score: 1

      But at least pointing at how pathetic Facebook users are apparently gave their own self esteem a little boost.

      "We're into junk science, but at least we can make up statistics about another group so we can point and laugh at SOMEONE for being more pathetic than ourselves!"

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  12. Doesn't that describe... by Thelasko · · Score: 2, Insightful

    everyone?

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    1. Re:Doesn't that describe... by Ambiguous+Coward · · Score: 1

      Nope, not me! I'm way better than all those silly narcissistic facebookers. Allow me to outline how, with a short, 100-item list...

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    2. Re:Doesn't that describe... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes. In fact, they just found out that narcissism and low self esteem are qualities that exist (at times) in everybody.

    3. Re:Doesn't that describe... by Mouldy · · Score: 1

      Not quite. It includes people who love themselves and people who hate themselves. Not people who are "average with themselves". That being said, the average person has 1 testicle and 1 boob, so maybe people who are average with themselves don't actually exist.

    4. Re:Doesn't that describe... by Thelasko · · Score: 1

      It includes people who love themselves and people who hate themselves. Not people who are "average with themselves".

      Yes, in my experience, very few people are "averege with themselves".

      Although on further examination, being a narcissist doesn't necessarily mean one loves oneself. One can have low self-esteem and be a narcissist as a means of coping.

      Perhaps a better description would be self-centered with a low self-esteem.

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    5. Re:Doesn't that describe... by Thelasko · · Score: 1
      From Wikipedia:

      Level and quality of self-esteem, though correlated, remain distinct. Level-wise, one can exhibit high but fragile self-esteem (as in narcissism) or low but stable self-esteem (as in humility).

      So only those with a high and stable self-esteem are not on Facebook.

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    6. Re:Doesn't that describe... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think what you meant to say was "like themselves as a friend"

    7. Re:Doesn't that describe... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Everyone needs a little narcissism, otherwise they'd be someone's doormat.

    8. Re:Doesn't that describe... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Inglorious Niggars

      The Niggars go around from town to town finding Whites and showin dem whos boss. Da commender sed that we owe him 1000 rape whites or men womenz and chrren. Yo gonna be next honkey as we found where yo live. We gonna be over at 7pm so you better bring your tears. Hope yo tell yo daughter too cuz we don' want noone to be surprised by Tyrone's "the Bear Niggar" dick ripping thrugh yo both.

    9. Re:Doesn't that describe... by The+Wild+Norseman · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      That being said, the average person has 1 testicle and 1 boob, so maybe people who are average with themselves don't actually exist.

      I'm an average person, you insensitive clod!

      --
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  13. Right by blai · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Extroverts get facebook accounts to vent their feelings...
    Introverts get facebook to promote self-esteem...

    Just conclude that social networking is favoured by social organisms

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    1. Re:Right by broeman · · Score: 1

      Exactly. When I saw the title, the first that hit me is that these two characteristics are states of mind, not a whole person. I could be narcissistic one day, and have low self esteem another day (although, wouldn't that also be characterized as a depression? ;). Most people on my FB page are just using it for games, or the occasional funny link they found. Not everybody takes it to the South Park level of commitment.

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      (yes this can be compared with sex)
    2. Re:Right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You smrt should be scientist!

    3. Re:Right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      *sigh* Low self-esteem != introversion.

    4. Re:Right by Skjellifetti · · Score: 1

      Just conclude that social networking is favoured by social organisms.

      Exactly. We get facebook accounts because its a convenient way to stay in touch with an old group of fun friends that have scattered themselves across five continents over the years.

  14. Whatever by killmenow · · Score: 2, Funny

    I just use it to play Farmville.

  15. At Odds With the Study by eldavojohn · · Score: 1
    100 people surveyed? Students? Sounds like there might be some sampling concerns there. How many people out of 100 are narcissists? Also, anyone know the reputability of the journal it was published in?

    Mehdizadeh went on to say "that's why so many people get paranoid if their boss sees them on Facebook. They're worried that they don't project the same image there that they project in their workplace."

    Yeah or you know the reason the rest of us get nervous is the fact that you're not doing work if you're on Facebook. Unless he means 'on Facebook' outside of work and then it's probably closer to the fact that you can't always control what goes on on Facebook unless you don't allow anything on your page. It's for socializing, not working so therein lies the paranoia regardless of whether or not you're a narcissist.

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    1. Re:At Odds With the Study by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      How many people out of 100 are narcissists?

      All of them?

  16. nah by Colin+Smith · · Score: 1

    the real narcisists have their own vanity domains.

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    1. Re:nah by corbettw · · Score: 1

      I've had my own domain for over ten years and it has nothing to do with narcissism. I just didn't want to have to get a new email address every time I changed ISPs.

      And no, I don't advertise here, because I get enough spam as it is, thank you very much.

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    2. Re:nah by XnavxeMiyyep · · Score: 1

      Wow, you own Yahoo!?

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    3. Re:nah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you mean this one: cory@waddingham.org

      You've posted that one all over web....

      Not very smart if you don't want spam.

    4. Re:nah by corbettw · · Score: 1

      There is so much reading-comprehension FAIL in your post it's shocking.

      And no, I don't advertise here, because I get enough spam as it is, thank you very much.

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  17. I wonder by meridiangod · · Score: 1

    What does it say about people who conduct studies about facebook?

  18. Flawed study is flawed by helixcode123 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    According to TFA the study sample involved college students. What about other demographic groups? For most of the more "mature" folks I know that use Facebook it's a means of keeping in touch with distant friends, or to maintain a bit of social connection in a life dominated by work and family obligations.

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    1. Re:Flawed study is flawed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      According to TFA the study sample involved college students. What about other demographic groups? For most of the more "mature" folks I know that use Facebook it's a means of keeping in touch with distant friends, or to maintain a bit of social connection in a life dominated by work and family obligations.

      Most studies involve students because researches work at universities.

      These same studies also cite a study which justifies the use of students for studies.

      I would cite it, but you clearly have not done any research, so neither will I.

    2. Re:Flawed study is flawed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      According to TFA the study sample involved college students. What about other demographic groups? For most of the more "mature" folks I know that use Facebook it's a means of keeping in touch with distant friends, or to maintain a bit of social connection in a life dominated by work and family obligations.

      Yeah, since when did Facebook have anything to do with college students?

      People who claim to use Facebook as a tool for "keeping in touch" are like people who claim to read Playboy "for the articles". Except the former are doing their masturbating in public.

  19. dont forget living in the past by digitalsushi · · Score: 5, Funny

    I found facebook as a great place to reconnect for the first time with girls that used to be pretty in high school, clinging to their pregnancy photos as though they were my own children, laughing with them.. printing them out and putting them on my fridge.. It's also a great place to have a decent, private conversation with your best friend's mom without him "getting all weird about this". A place for adults to communicate as they wish. A place for grownups.

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    1. Re:dont forget living in the past by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

      I smell a new study coming out: "Facebook the network of choice for internet stalkers!"

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    2. Re:dont forget living in the past by Fulcrum+of+Evil · · Score: 1

      The ability to get peoples' wall posts automatically on SMS is pretty creepy, you gotta admit.

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  20. Bad summary by UnknowingFool · · Score: 4, Informative

    "Heaviest users of Facebook are Narcissists, Insecure" is more appropriate title.

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    1. Re:Bad summary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I read "Heaviest" as in, "weighing the most".

      I too feel this is a more appropriate title.

    2. Re:Bad summary by michaelmalak · · Score: 1

      Not only that, but the article never used the phrase "self promotion" as the Slashdot summary did. Self promotion has business purposes outside of narcissism. And, yes, I have gotten job offers from my Facebook profile (whereas with LinkedIn I get 10x as many but those are just leads).

      There is a lot of negative sentiment on Slashdot regarding Facebook, but I find it to be a great way to keep in contact with friends from the past. It's cheaper and more fun than sending 125 Christmas cards as I used to.

    3. Re:Bad summary by mqduck · · Score: 1

      That's pretty much redundant. Narcissists *are* insecure, requiring constant approval in order to maintain their self-esteem.

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    4. Re:Bad summary by syousef · · Score: 1

      "Heaviest users of Facebook are Narcissists, Insecure" is more appropriate title.

      What does body mass have to do with it? ;-)

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  21. Theory? We don't need no stinkin' THEORY! by tomhudson · · Score: 1

    The theory is that these people use the site as a means of self promotion

    It's a fact. And look at all the businesses trying to do the same. And they're failing, for one simple reason - the facebook format is not conducive to conversations.

    Maybe Ellison can buy them and kill them off.

    1. Re:Theory? We don't need no stinkin' THEORY! by corbettw · · Score: 1

      Not all businesses who use Facebook for advertising are failing, simply because not all businesses need to communicate with their customers.

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    2. Re:Theory? We don't need no stinkin' THEORY! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That isn't true at all. I use FaceBook to promote my business and it works very well. I'm a portrait photographer, I friend my clients, and then after their portrait session I upload their images to facebook (with their enthusiastic permission...people these days want FB pics more than they want 8x10s) and tag them. Then all their friends see the pictures and hire me. Works great.

    3. Re:Theory? We don't need no stinkin' THEORY! by Nimey · · Score: 1

      Harlan or Larry?

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  22. Don't forget promoting their failing bands by Drakkenmensch · · Score: 1

    Though that overlaps with narcissism and low self esteem.

  23. This just in: by AtomicOrange · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    insert obvious statement

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  24. Facebook Use Case by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I'm still trying to figure out the use case for Facebook for me, a geek, with his own web site. I already don't update my own site enough and I really just don't care what people from high school are doing. I've moved on in life and don't have a great need for a popularity contest. The people I want to maintain contact with I still do. What's the use case? I still feel like facebook is a fad, in the same vein of AOL of the 90's and myspace from whenever that was popular.

    1. Re:Facebook Use Case by Brian+Feldman · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Many of us have more than a handful of friends, dozens of family members, and dozens more people that are not close friends from school but ARE people we still care about enough to derive happiness from sharing our lives with, even quite indirectly. Using a 'social' network of any sort -- be it Facebook, AIM, e-mail, IRC, MySpace, ICQ, GChat, Twitter -- is nothing more than an extension of direct communication, and implies that you actually care about being 'social.' If you don't care about being 'social,' instead maintain a personal website as a matter of pretense, and then declare every new communication paradigm that passes you by in life as a 'fad,' then you're in the sad minority of Luddite hermits.

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    2. Re:Facebook Use Case by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm still trying to figure out the use case for Facebook for me, a geek, with his own web site.

      I still feel like facebook is a fad, in the same vein of AOL of the 90's and myspace from whenever that was popular.

      And don't forget the personal, vanity websites of the 90's ;)
      You sad, sad, irrelevant basement virgin.

    3. Re:Facebook Use Case by alen · · Score: 1

      used to be that people moved on after going to a different school or graduating from college. chicks write letters, guys don't.closest thing was alumni newsletters

      then came email, but it was tied to your ISP. then came hotmail but it stopped being cool and people went to gmail. people found it a PITA to change email addresses

      facebook you can keep in touch with people without updating your email address or any other info no matter where you move to

    4. Re:Facebook Use Case by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      facebook you can keep in touch with people without updating your email address or any other info no matter where you move to

      Heh. Except until Facebook goes away or the next fad comes along. Then what? How many orphaned MySpace sites are out there? How many orphaned facebook accounts will there be in 5 or 10 years after everyone moves on to the next thing?

      I read the fine article and the results of the study pretty much sum up everyone that I know who is on facebook.

    5. Re:Facebook Use Case by kiwimate · · Score: 1

      { Wonders: is it narcissistic to opine "this thing can not be useful because I personally don't see any importance or use for it"? }

      Why is it that Slashdot users so frequently feel the need to sneer at people who do something outside of the typical /. realm? Recently, Facebook has:

      • informed me an old friend of mine living in New Zealand has won his second science fiction writing award. I care about that;
      • enabled my cousin in England to see I was online and given us the tool to have a chat and catch up with each other;
      • given me a quick way to check up on another old friend in New Zealand and make sure he was safe after the earthquake a few days ago;
      • helped me keep up to date with the progress of a sick friend in Italy;
      • been an easy way for me to get information and diagnose what's wrong with a friend's laptop. She lives in Louisiana.

      You could point out that there are other ways to do all of that, but you'd be missing the point. Facebook is a great central portal. I have friends and family all over the world, and I don't even know half their e-mail addresses now. I don't need to. I can link up with them on Facebook.

      If you have an equally effective way to keep in contact with people who are important to you, well, super. Facebook is a simple and effective way for me to keep up with people who are important to me.

      And you know what? For other people, it might just be that it's fun. Some people have neither the time nor inclination to play an MMORPG, but find Farmville a relaxing diversion. What's wrong with that? Farmville bores you to tears? Okay, fine, ignore it. Isn't that one of the mantras of Slashdot - the freedom of choice is what matters? It is not important whether you use Firefox or Opera or Internet Explorer - it is important that you have the choice.

    6. Re:Facebook Use Case by m50d · · Score: 1
      It's an easy way to invite a bunch of people to a party; it handles reminding people rather than you having to worry about it. That's the main thing I use it for.

      If I go into more controversial usage, it's helpful to hear when a friend and I happen to be going to the same event (or just the same town at the same time), meaning we can meet up when I wouldn't otherwise have realised. And it's a less intrusive way to say hi to old friends I might want to see again than a 'phone call or even an email would be.

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  25. What's that make twitter? by scorp1us · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Seriously.

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    1. Re:What's that make twitter? by broknstrngz · · Score: 1

      Seriously.

      A place for the narcissistic AND arrogant, "You don't deserve more than 140 characters from me", types I guess...

  26. Seems fitting. by RyuuzakiTetsuya · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Isn't Mark Zuckerberg known to be a complete jerk and a narcissist?

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    1. Re:Seems fitting. by Thelasko · · Score: 1

      I thought he was a megalomaniac?

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    2. Re:Seems fitting. by RyuuzakiTetsuya · · Score: 1

      I thought those two conditions weren't mutually exclusive?

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    3. Re:Seems fitting. by Thelasko · · Score: 1

      The megalomaniac differs from the narcissist by the fact that he wishes to be powerful rather than charming, and seeks to be feared rather than loved.

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  27. And in other news.... by sykobabul · · Score: 1, Insightful

    ... scientists have discovered that water is wet, air is usually breathable and the sun is hot. :P

  28. Alas by SnarfQuest · · Score: 1

    Nobody ever wants to see my beautiful face. It's always the same, no matter how wonderfully sculptured by god-like body becomes, everyone just ignores me. If they take my red stapler, I'm going to burn this place down.

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  29. Yes. And? by geekzapoppin · · Score: 0

    Facebook is open to anyone and provides people with the easy ability to send out pictures, rants, and messages to a large number of other people at one time. Narcissists can spout diatribes and lists of all of the things in their lives that they think are better than the average person's. Folks with low self-esteem can post about their problems and get almost-immediate support and reassurance. Did it really take a study to figure that out? Now, let me get back to posting a hundred more pictures of my trip to Hawaii. I don't know, though. I think I look fat in them. I don't look fat, do I?

  30. Southpark told us this months ago by fartingfool · · Score: 2, Interesting
  31. That explains why.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... everyone is on Facebook.

  32. Ironically, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    People who link this study on Facebook cannot contribute to its findings.

  33. As opposed to... by Srsen · · Score: 0

    the narcissists who have to tell everyone that they don't use Facebook, don't have an iPhone, don't have a TV, whatever. They just want people to think they are cool too.

  34. If all you've got to survey is ... by aGuyNamedJoe · · Score: 1

    If all you've got to survey are college students, everybody is a college student!

    I wonder how many of those college students were grandparents, which seem to be a huge subset of my Frenz on FaceBook! (Of course there's probably an even larger group of users who are grandchildren.)

    1. Re:If all you've got to survey is ... by Locke2005 · · Score: 3, Funny

      there's probably an even larger group of users who are grandchildren. Grandchildren who, when trolling for sex on facebook, should probably remember that they have friended their grandparents... (And yes, studies confirm that 100% of facebook users are grandchildren of someone.)

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    2. Re:If all you've got to survey is ... by robot256 · · Score: 1

      Further studies concluded that although 100% of facebook are grandchildren of someone, fewer than 20% were grandchildren of other facebook users, and only 87% of those had active (i.e. living) grandparents on facebook.

    3. Re:If all you've got to survey is ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      (And yes, studies confirm that 100% of facebook users are grandchildren of someone.)

      citation needed

  35. Yeah, my friend and I do the same thing by DRAGONWEEZEL · · Score: 1

    My e-mail address is allways your name @ my domain.com (or my domain#2.com

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    1. Re:Yeah, my friend and I do the same thing by laederkeps · · Score: 1

      My e-mail address is allways your name @ my domain.com (or my domain#2.com

      Oh, so to avoid spam you use my name instead of your own? Clever!

  36. Exceptions? by AntEater · · Score: 1

    Is it still arrogance if I actually am better than everyone else?

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    1. Re:Exceptions? by tibman · · Score: 1

      depends on which version of "better"

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    2. Re:Exceptions? by robot256 · · Score: 1

      Is it still arrogance if I actually am better than everyone else?

      I've been wondering about that for a long time. I'm going to figure it out first, of course, because I am better than you.

  37. I use it for by alfredo · · Score: 1

    Practicing drunk typing. It's family or friends reading it so they all recognize that uncle Alfredo is drunk again, and pay me no mind

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  38. I did a study by Perp+Atuitie · · Score: 1

    that shows people who eat candy like sugar. Ain't breakthrough insights great?

  39. Doesn't jibe with my observation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It seemed more like Facebook was full of "party people" and salesmen. Even if you didn't fit that category, it seemed to have a way of pulling you down to that level. That's why I tried it for a few months and then said "no way". I had a small enough number of updates to make manual deletion practical, as they were taking actions against the "Web 2.0 suicide machine" at the time, and probably still are.

  40. Keyword "narcissist" a lot more in the news lately by cshay · · Score: 3, Interesting

    In remember when I only heard the word "narcissist" and "narcissism" in the college classroom and in self help books. But in the last 2 years I think its usage has been climbing dramatically. Anyone with Lexus-Nexus access care to check? I think it was a lyric in a few pop songs so maybe that's the cause.....

  41. Pah! by peacefinder · · Score: 1

    That's what I use slashdot for.

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  42. Sample Size by Shin+Dig · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Note, this study had a sample size of 100 college students, possibly self selected (selection criteria wasn't readily presented). It's really dubious to make a generalization on that.

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  43. Of course. by bynary · · Score: 1

    Of course they flock to Facebook. Doesn't everybody?

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  44. What about Narcissists with low self esteem? by Red4man · · Score: 2

    Or do they just post journals to slashdot?

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  45. Quick indicators by British · · Score: 1

    If you see people with 1000+ friends, they don't have 1000+ friends to converse & be friends with, that's just 1000+ people they can broadcast to.

    If you see someone that adds you as a friend, but never comments on any of your wall posts, you're just another viewer to their wall posts. It may or may not have commercial promotions involved.

    If you have someone that adds you as a friend, but doesn't talk to you if you saw them in person, well, that's a mystery to me. Maybe you were interesting to them at one point, but lost your shine & been replaced by other recent adds.

    Facebook isn't a tool to meet new people, that's for sure.

    1. Re:Quick indicators by radtea · · Score: 1

      If you see people with 1000+ friends, they don't have 1000+ friends to converse & be friends with, that's just 1000+ people they can broadcast to.

      A guy I know slightly commented, "Calling the people you're connected to on Facebook or Twitter 'friends' is ridiculous. How many of them would help you move your couch?"

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    2. Re:Quick indicators by robot256 · · Score: 1

      If you see people with 1000+ friends, they don't have 1000+ friends to converse & be friends with, that's just 1000+ people they can broadcast to.

      A guy I know slightly commented, "Calling the people you're connected to on Facebook or Twitter 'friends' is ridiculous. How many of them would help you move your couch?"

      Or bail you out of jail? Or drive you to alcohol treatment? Or bail you out of jail again? Seriously, what are friends for?

  46. Proof that forums are superior! by DreamOfPeace · · Score: 1

    Am I right? Am I right?

  47. So.. that would mean by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All of Canada is on Facebook. Which is actually true. They think Americans are arrogant, self-absorbed, and stupid. Yet they do nothing but use our technology and serve no purpose for any Country other than themselves.

  48. Kettle calls Pot black by Infonaut · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I find it humorous that so many Slashdotters bag on Facebook users, who are apparently self-absorbed. Tell me you don't give a rat's ass how your Slashdot comments are moderated. Tell me you've never looked to see how many people are interested in reading your comments. I know there will always be those who profess to be completely disinterested in their social standing in Slashdot, but methinks the number who actually don't give a damn is smaller than the number who make that claim.

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    1. Re:Kettle calls Pot black by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      cobblers mate.

    2. Re:Kettle calls Pot black by roman_mir · · Score: 1

      well, if /. is the main way to socialize, then certainly, you'd care about those things. My comments end up being moderated up and then almost inevitably down because my opinions are not accepted, I still post though, I guess after all these years it's a habit.

    3. Re:Kettle calls Pot black by robot256 · · Score: 1

      Do people care what others think about their facebook posts? Do they think "Oh damn, I should have reworded my status update about those burned noodles, the grammar nazis are totally going to get me." I didn't think so.

      There's a difference between not letting the world get you down, and not giving a shit if you annoy them for no reason. That's the difference between slashdot and facebook.

    4. Re:Kettle calls Pot black by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      I dont give a shit, that is why I never bothered to make a login

    5. Re:Kettle calls Pot black by izomiac · · Score: 1

      The healthy person is willing to speak their mind, but caters their statements to their audience, and doesn't bother if they aren't receptive. A narcissist focuses on the former part and doesn't give a damn about the latter, while an insecure person is the opposite. There's a spectrum, and the behavior you describe sounds like it's right in the middle.

    6. Re:Kettle calls Pot black by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about those of us that post as AC despite the negative stigma? I don't care what you think about my comments, though if I think a particular comment might generate an interesting discussion I will check back once or twice over a day or so.

      I suspect most slashdotters have an account simply for the automatic boost to your comment rating. I don't know if that scores very high on the narcissism scale, though it probably has some impact.

    7. Re:Kettle calls Pot black by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 1

      Tell me you don't give a rat's ass how your Slashdot comments are moderated.

      Sure, I give a rat's ass. Tell me you don't. If my blatherings sink to -1, I've been wasting precious minutes of my life doing nothing other than develop carpal tunnel syndrome.

      What upsets me is people blowing scarce community resources such as modpoints on undeserving comments. The wise treatises get so buried, under Insightful posts with silly nitpicking or wide grumpy condemnation, that not one can be found.

    8. Re:Kettle calls Pot black by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tell me you've never posted as an anonymous coward.

    9. Re:Kettle calls Pot black by Fitch · · Score: 1

      I can't speak for all Slashdotters, but I personally bag on Facebook because it's little more than a conglomeration of technologies we (the people with gray hair) have been using for nearly two decades. FB took the tools we developed and put a pretty interface on it all and suddenly it's the best thing to happen to the internet since Napster. Nevermind what will happen when 'everyone' adopts it as their primary storage for digital media and contacts and it goes away for lack of a sound business model. 'Fad' is an ugly label to those who've found themselves labeled so I find no fault in those who are defending their stance. I guess time will tell - I still wretch when I hear mullet jokes...

      I've been invited dozens of times, and it's quite annoying to have to tell my brothers and sisters why I don't want to hassle with it just to see their photos. I simply have no desire to reconnect with people I didn't like in the first place. The people who are important to me still use a telephone (even though I wish some wouldn't). I don't need another medium upon which to ignore those I find annoying.

    10. Re:Kettle calls Pot black by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Let's put it this way: I've been reading Slashdot more or less regularly since 1998 and haven't yet bothered to create an account. Why? I don't care much about the "social" aspects of the site, such as how am I moderated or how many people read whatever I commented on, to take on the two you mention (actually I didn't even know there was such functionality before I read your post). As far as I care to guess, ACs are always scored at 0 and (statistically speaking) no one ever reads anything "we" write. I find, however, that trying to articulate my thoughts about something is very useful to clarify my own ideas, and then posting helps me detach from them: they either live or die on their own, in the "meme wilderness" so to speak, and I'm not better or worse either way. So feel free to include me in either the "number who actually don't care" or the "number who make that claim", I have a good idea of where I stand.
      Needless to say, I don't Facebook (or Tweet, for that matter). And although I don't usually drink beer, whenever I do it is NOT "Dos Equis" (XX).

    11. Re:Kettle calls Pot black by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tell me you don't give a rat's ass how your Slashdot comments are moderated. Tell me you've never looked to see how many people are interested in reading your comments.

      I don't give a rat's ass how my Slashdot comments are moderated. I've never looked to see how many people are interested in reading my comments. I'm too busy on watching myself on my webcam while I Twitter about a link on my Facebook that goes to some photos I posted on Flickr of a Myspace party I had last night.

  49. Causality ? by kjshark · · Score: 1

    This isn't just a "study out of Canada". It's a study of Canadian university students. So maybe it's being Canadian and not being on facebook that makes these subjects such mutants. I'll bet it's their national healthcare that does it. Freaky progressives is what they are.

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  50. Surprised that Facebook is stupid? by mcneely.mike · · Score: 1

    A guy i know at work says that everyone keeps telling him he has to get onto facebook, but that no one can give him a good reason.
    The only good reason i got was that you can check out prospective employees, but all i got was "My chef made too many cookies, so i'm giving you 100."

    I mean WTF???
    As Jimmy says, "Like, come on!"

    Facebook is for stupid... stupid is as stupid does. (read above with the cookies... like, come on people.)

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  51. There are three i's in "Narcissistic"... by TrebleJunkie · · Score: 1

    ..and that's still not enough!!!

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  52. Can't resist ... by lstl · · Score: 1

    Is this is a sign that Hibe users will be unselfish and confident?

  53. Re:So.. that would mean you're an idiot? by mcneely.mike · · Score: 1

    WTDF? MILF is that you?

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  54. Re:Keyword "narcissist" a lot more in the news lat by straponego · · Score: 2, Funny

    I think you mean Lexis-Nexis, but you'll definitely find more narcissists at the Lexus Nexus. All of them far too important to use a turn signal.

  55. On a more serious note... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Perhaps this would explain all the fuss about cyber bullying. All of the reports I have heard are from Facebook. If people there are likely to have low self esteem...

  56. Question of the day... by CCarrot · · Score: 1

    QOTD - is there such a thing as a narcissist with low self-esteem?

    That should be the target audience for FB ads!

    "Do you see yourself as worthless? Do you want to share that with ALL your friends, as well as random strangers and potential stalkers? Well, do we have the place for you!"

    {/sarcasm}

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    "I love animals! Some are cute, others are tasty, what's not to like?" - Betsy Schroeder, Jeopardy contestant
    1. Re:Question of the day... by 0111+1110 · · Score: 1

      They don't see themselves as worthless *because* they have 1000+ plus "friends" on facebook. In their world that proves their worth. I think it's pretty obvious that anyone who has a facebook page and actually uses it to any significant extent is at least somewhat in love with themselves and seeks at least the psuedo-adoration of others to prove to themselves beyond any doubt how right they are to love themselves. I can't imagine giving updates on the intertubes on what I am doing and feeling every 30 minutes. There is something seriously wrong with that. Maybe the worst part is that they think that anyone else is actually going to give a fuck what they happen to be doing or feeling. The problem is that they are all narcissistic to some degree. So they can't really have an actual conversation with each other. They can talk but nobody is actually listening. The beauty of facebook is that they don't even have to wait their turn to talk about themselves as in real life.

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      Quite an experience to live in fear, isn't it? That's what it is to be a slave.
  57. Reasons for facebook by Quill_28 · · Score: 1

    My kid was in the hospital _everyone_ wanted updates. This makes it very easy.

    Take some pics/videos of my kids. I can post them. Other folks can check them out if they want to.

    This way I don't have to e-mail spam.

    I like to be able to follow the happenings of friends without e-mail/phone.

    All that being said I rarely update and spend about 30 minutes a week on facebook.

    In my mind that 30 minutes is well worth it.

  58. bad news for fat facebook users... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "A recent study of Canadian university students suggests the heaviest users of Facebook are narcissists and people with low self-esteem. "

    What about those of normal weight? Or under-weight facebook users? Is there not already a correlation between weight and self-esteem levels?

    Sorry... gotta go... somewhere other there, there's a twinkie with my name on it

  59. Welcome to the Hotel Facebookornia by Dogtanian · · Score: 1

    My FaceBook account was zombified quite a while ago - all its content deleted.

    In your dreams! Once opened, Facebook accounts and content are notoriously difficult (if not impossible) to "remove" completely.

    As someone once said "you can check out anytime you like, but you can never leave".

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    "Slashdot - News and Chat Sites Deviant". (Click "homepage" link above for details).
    1. Re:Welcome to the Hotel Facebookornia by xaxa · · Score: 1

      As someone once said "you can check out anytime you like, but you can never leave".

      Slashdot is even worse in this respect.

  60. I *Like* this by MonsterMasher · · Score: 1

        I LIKE this.

    Now - get the hell off my lawn!

  61. Breaking news by Ohrion · · Score: 1

    This just in! People who don't like things, want other people to not like those things too!

  62. Wtf by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wtf happenned to the suddenoutbreakofcommonsense tag?!?!? I know the tags got out of hand for a while but come on this post should get a pass.

  63. do rainmen dream of ascii sheep? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Hi, I'm Temple Grandin, nice to meet you!"

    1. Re:do rainmen dream of ascii sheep? by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 1

      Moooooooo...

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      "Flyin' in just a sweet place,
      Never been known to fail..."
  64. Re:Keyword "narcissist" a lot more in the news lat by nametaken · · Score: 1

    I blame facebook.

  65. This is Funny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Slashdot itself the epicenter of geek narcissists who live for the +5 post but can't get laid

  66. What, a movie? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Holy crap there's a movie about facebook? Let's do a pointless survey about it!

  67. Twitter is for narcissists by Ranger · · Score: 1

    Facebook is for those with low self-esteem.

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    "You'll get nothing, and you'll like it!"
  68. Oblig Despair Link... by tunapez · · Score: 1

    I wonder if the Despairware T-shirt was their motivation...
    Social Media Venn Diagram T-Shirt

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    Imagination drew in bold strokes, instantly serving hopes and fears, while knowledge advanced by slow increments...
  69. talk about stating the obvious... by Klintus+Fang · · Score: 1

    And in other news...well traveled street corners are magnets for pan handlers. Details at 11!!

    Now we know where to look for these people online. Who knew?

    Of course, this doesn't mean that facebook doesn't have other users. I mean...does the fact that a pan handlers hangs out near the place that you walk by every day to pick up a cup of coffee mean that every one else you see walking by that spot is also a pan handler?

    I suppose it might. :p (j/k)

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    In a minute there is time For decisions and revisions which a minute will reverse. -T.S. Eliot
  70. Anti-Narcissist? by AsianBorat · · Score: 1

    I use facebook to stalk narcissists and people with low self esteem. Does that make me the opposite of a narcissist?

  71. Slashdot? by mosb1000 · · Score: 1

    I'd hate to hear what they think of people who post in Slashdot forums.

  72. Re:Keyword "narcissist" a lot more in the news lat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't know about Lexus-Nexus, but according to Google Trends, there's been a rising trend in "narcissist" since 2004, but "narcissism" has stayed more or less flat. Go figure. The first question that springs to mind is whether that means there is a growing interest in / recognition of the problem, or just a rise in its popularity as an insult (which could explain why there's no increase in searches for the phenomenon as compared to individuals accused of it).

  73. This just in! by tywjohn · · Score: 1

    Studies show that people who use facebook either really love themselves or don't!

  74. And by mahadiga · · Score: 1

    Facebook = Personal Diary + Google

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    I'd like to buy homeland for our 10 million people. http://twitter.com/mahadiga
  75. What? no! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What will slashdot do when they leave!

  76. Slashdot doesn't get Facebook: News at 11 by Fulminata · · Score: 1

    The study says that the heaviest users of Facebook are either narcissists or people with low self-esteem. That seems generally true of most forms of communication from telephones to casual conversation: the heaviest users are either looking to spread the glory that is themselves, or are looking for validation.

    What the study doesn't say is that the majority of Facebook users are narcissists or people with low self esteem, but that is the conclusion most people here seem to be jumping to.

  77. This is a tautology if it is a tautology by Tetsujin · · Score: 1

    I can make funny comments!

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    Bow-ties are cool.
  78. Meta Meta, who's got the Meta? by Tetsujin · · Score: 2, Informative

    Oh, and I have a sig line, too! Gary Numan is cool!

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    Bow-ties are cool.