Adobe killed DPS and required Apple to use DPDF because it's their "new thang" these days. Promotion of the moment, it seems. But the idea is the same, since PDF is PS.
There's a difference between calling an ISP and connecting to a large world of things then you just happen to play a game and between calling a friend's second phone line where his BBS is and playing games with people you *know* in person.
I ran a BBS and met MANY people that way, mostly because BBSes were LOCAL and computers were not seen as methods of interaction yet. This versus the "global" Internet as it stands that claims to be a method of interaction between people. Playing Tradewars itself did not bring people together. If it had been on an 800 number somewhere it would never have mattered. Being on local BBSes where you knew the people playing was something completely different.
This isn't about the game or the style or sitting at home, it's a matter of those people you're interacting with are next door or fifteen streets down, not fifteen parallels over. The functional equivilent today is the LAN party with a good strategy or RPG game.
This sounds a lot like X10:
1) There is an open standard by the name.
2) There are many, many makers of the product.
3) There is one company with the standard as the name.
I don't see X-10 (the company, note, has a dash) going after everyone that uses the term "X10" on their equipment. In fact, when you say "X10" many people think of the company, NOT the standard. But can you use "X10" to describe your product? Would "OpenX10" be legal? Yes.
SSH is a STANDARD. When I say SSH I mean the STANDARD, not the IMPLEMENTATION. He can trademark SSH all he wants, that just means that the company is SSH, it does NOT control what the binary can be called or anything derivitive. His TRADEmark is SSH. Fine. OpenSSH's TRADEmark is OpenSSH. Your point, sir?
IN FACT, OpenSSH is different enough to NOT be "confusingly similar" to "SSH Communications, Ltd." so although he's experiencing some confused people heading towards him for OpenSSH support, that's just standard human idiocy flack and should be taken with a grain of salt.
OpenSSH does not need to change its name. While I applaud the owner of SSH Com. for this approch rather than a full legal onslaught, I disagree with his position that OpenSSH is confusingly similar to his product.
What next? Does he want the IETF standard renamed? Is that too similar? I agree with the second poster: this industry is getting more depressing as the days go by, as greedy people (not this fellow, really) hunt down their "IP" and try and milk it. <sigh> --
They don't need to, just their lawyers (who, admittedly, can't spell it themselves, but the point remains).
Besides, once they figured out that Slashdot is the pinacle of geekdom (ha ha ha) and everyone who knows anything reads it (ha ha ha) I'm sure they stuck a minimum-wager in a corner with an iMac to read similar web sites looking for people to sue. --
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Actually I had Covad DSL at one point and worked for an ISP in tech support in that same timeframe, so I can vouch for that poster, however someone I know tried getting IDSL from them and it took then two months to get it going and then one month after it started they broke it (later discovered) and it took then two weeks to fix it.
I have more horror stories, if you like, but there is a common misconception that the ISP actually has any control with this. All the ISP does is place the order and be the recipient of your traffic. The DSL provider (I/CLEC) does EVERYTHING else.
BTW: It is not a logical statement to say that just because you had no problems that if anyone else has problems it's their fault. There are successful installs. There are unsuccessful installs. There are horror stories. The horror stories are 99% the LECs fault. --
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1) It's not a patent, it's a trademark.
2) It's not broken, it's their logo. It prevents other companies from using it as their logo. Fair use still applies, just like copyright. --
This is quite honestly one of the greatest things I've heard lately. A company that's actualy standing up and saying that even though they own it they don't want to take it out of popular culture. Beautiful. =) --
Huh? You haven't SEEN government interference until you've lived in Canada...
But at least it's expected. Here we have the "vision" of actually having a significant amount of government non-interference whereas the opposite is the case. I'd rather they freakin' admit it and try and use it for the better than sit there behind our backs f-in with our lives. --
I think it (the mentality which I, as an American, agree we have a problem with) has to do in this case with the fact that the Internet was originally the US Govt's project, so they still think they have control.
I say we just cut the fiber to DC, let AlterNIC be our root, and go on our merry way. Who's with me? --
What the hell is the BFD over new TLDs?! Why is this SIMPLE process taking so damn long?! You would think that this would be a simple process. Just name them, vote on them, implement them. Very simple. Especially so since the govt. gave the "Net" away so many years ago. It should not still be under their control (most of Congress can't find the power button on an iMac, much less know the importance of TLDs).
Goddamn politicians. Just get the hell out of our lives already!
I've heard a lot about BSD being inheirently more secure than Linux, but have yet to see some concrete reasons why. So far, it comes down to code review from what I understand. What difference, then, is there between "secure" BSD distributions and, say, Immunix? --
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Ummm, the magnets are in the trains themselves, and they apparently are highly sheilded as maglev trains REQUIRE computers to operate. =) --
I won't, not entirely. There's another side to the story here, as well. Some of us like the nostagia of a big black console, and the quirkiness of seeing it on our Mac. Some of us actually like Gnome or KDE better than MacOS, or even OS X.
I, personally, plan on having, still, a dual-boot system on my G4. One side Linux, one side whatever Mac OS is current. I have a need to run my Mac software, but I really, really love Linux. There's just some element of power and control, that I don't think is in Apple's business plan, that I love about Linux. It kicks me in the ass sometimes (PPP, for instance), but it's completely a tinkering and learning experience, which is really what got me into it in the first place.
I still do my browsing and email and word processing and gaming in the Mac OS, but it's not rare to reboot into Linux just to fiddle, tinker, and see what makes what work. Setup local servers, learn how they work, etc.
Overall, I think there's two groups: Those using Linux as an ark until the waters clear for Mac OS, and those using it for the sheer geekiness of it all. I'm in group #2. --
"Darwin" is the catch-all open-source name at Apple. There's the Darwin OS (which we all know as Darwin) and the Darwin Streaming Server (which is the QT server, and what you're thinking of). --
The only reason people really need guns in the US, and we do, is because others have them and we wish to equal the threat. Kind of like the nuclear arms race; we only had them because others did, who had them because we did, etc.
If there were no guns then the need for guns would not exist. Simple. Whether Bob the Honkey with his pickup and gun rack for hunting "'coons" and rabbits and deer (oh what a vicious animal) believes me is another issue.
And I've lived in Tennesee and Texas so believe me, I know about the fear of rednecks with guns... --
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Quartz is both a renamed component *and* a new one. It's new in that it's been largely rewritten, but it's still basically Display Postscript.
Adobe killed DPS and required Apple to use DPDF because it's their "new thang" these days. Promotion of the moment, it seems. But the idea is the same, since PDF is PS.
There's a difference between calling an ISP and connecting to a large world of things then you just happen to play a game and between calling a friend's second phone line where his BBS is and playing games with people you *know* in person.
I ran a BBS and met MANY people that way, mostly because BBSes were LOCAL and computers were not seen as methods of interaction yet. This versus the "global" Internet as it stands that claims to be a method of interaction between people. Playing Tradewars itself did not bring people together. If it had been on an 800 number somewhere it would never have mattered. Being on local BBSes where you knew the people playing was something completely different.
This isn't about the game or the style or sitting at home, it's a matter of those people you're interacting with are next door or fifteen streets down, not fifteen parallels over. The functional equivilent today is the LAN party with a good strategy or RPG game.
How dare you assume they read the article?
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This sounds a lot like X10:
1) There is an open standard by the name.
2) There are many, many makers of the product.
3) There is one company with the standard as the name.
I don't see X-10 (the company, note, has a dash) going after everyone that uses the term "X10" on their equipment. In fact, when you say "X10" many people think of the company, NOT the standard. But can you use "X10" to describe your product? Would "OpenX10" be legal? Yes.
SSH is a STANDARD. When I say SSH I mean the STANDARD, not the IMPLEMENTATION. He can trademark SSH all he wants, that just means that the company is SSH, it does NOT control what the binary can be called or anything derivitive. His TRADEmark is SSH. Fine. OpenSSH's TRADEmark is OpenSSH. Your point, sir?
IN FACT, OpenSSH is different enough to NOT be "confusingly similar" to "SSH Communications, Ltd." so although he's experiencing some confused people heading towards him for OpenSSH support, that's just standard human idiocy flack and should be taken with a grain of salt.
OpenSSH does not need to change its name. While I applaud the owner of SSH Com. for this approch rather than a full legal onslaught, I disagree with his position that OpenSSH is confusingly similar to his product.
What next? Does he want the IETF standard renamed? Is that too similar? I agree with the second poster: this industry is getting more depressing as the days go by, as greedy people (not this fellow, really) hunt down their "IP" and try and milk it. <sigh>
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They don't need to, just their lawyers (who, admittedly, can't spell it themselves, but the point remains).
Besides, once they figured out that Slashdot is the pinacle of geekdom (ha ha ha) and everyone who knows anything reads it (ha ha ha) I'm sure they stuck a minimum-wager in a corner with an iMac to read similar web sites looking for people to sue.
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Actually I had Covad DSL at one point and worked for an ISP in tech support in that same timeframe, so I can vouch for that poster, however someone I know tried getting IDSL from them and it took then two months to get it going and then one month after it started they broke it (later discovered) and it took then two weeks to fix it.
I have more horror stories, if you like, but there is a common misconception that the ISP actually has any control with this. All the ISP does is place the order and be the recipient of your traffic. The DSL provider (I/CLEC) does EVERYTHING else.
BTW: It is not a logical statement to say that just because you had no problems that if anyone else has problems it's their fault. There are successful installs. There are unsuccessful installs. There are horror stories. The horror stories are 99% the LECs fault.
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Bzzzt. Wrong. That's 462 SQUARE mm. or 21.49mm each side. That's about an inch for each side.
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1) It's not a patent, it's a trademark.
2) It's not broken, it's their logo. It prevents other companies from using it as their logo. Fair use still applies, just like copyright.
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This is quite honestly one of the greatest things I've heard lately. A company that's actualy standing up and saying that even though they own it they don't want to take it out of popular culture. Beautiful. =)
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...all of which is useless to me until iptables-save can do it IN ORDER. Geez...
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Nahh, just making them license the term. =)
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Huh? You haven't SEEN government interference until you've lived in Canada ...
But at least it's expected. Here we have the "vision" of actually having a significant amount of government non-interference whereas the opposite is the case. I'd rather they freakin' admit it and try and use it for the better than sit there behind our backs f-in with our lives.
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I think it (the mentality which I, as an American, agree we have a problem with) has to do in this case with the fact that the Internet was originally the US Govt's project, so they still think they have control.
I say we just cut the fiber to DC, let AlterNIC be our root, and go on our merry way. Who's with me?
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What the hell is the BFD over new TLDs?! Why is this SIMPLE process taking so damn long?! You would think that this would be a simple process. Just name them, vote on them, implement them. Very simple. Especially so since the govt. gave the "Net" away so many years ago. It should not still be under their control (most of Congress can't find the power button on an iMac, much less know the importance of TLDs).
Goddamn politicians. Just get the hell out of our lives already!
<grumble> <grumble> <grumble>
I'm moving to Canada. It's final. <grunt>
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Amen, brotha'. ;-)
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I've heard a lot about BSD being inheirently more secure than Linux, but have yet to see some concrete reasons why. So far, it comes down to code review from what I understand. What difference, then, is there between "secure" BSD distributions and, say, Immunix?
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Ummm, the magnets are in the trains themselves, and they apparently are highly sheilded as maglev trains REQUIRE computers to operate. =)
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DVDs do not have to be encrypted. You can have unencrypted video, it's just that RIAA prefers to encrypt the crap they produce.
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I would expect that a lot of them would switch.
I won't, not entirely. There's another side to the story here, as well. Some of us like the nostagia of a big black console, and the quirkiness of seeing it on our Mac. Some of us actually like Gnome or KDE better than MacOS, or even OS X.
I, personally, plan on having, still, a dual-boot system on my G4. One side Linux, one side whatever Mac OS is current. I have a need to run my Mac software, but I really, really love Linux. There's just some element of power and control, that I don't think is in Apple's business plan, that I love about Linux. It kicks me in the ass sometimes (PPP, for instance), but it's completely a tinkering and learning experience, which is really what got me into it in the first place.
I still do my browsing and email and word processing and gaming in the Mac OS, but it's not rare to reboot into Linux just to fiddle, tinker, and see what makes what work. Setup local servers, learn how they work, etc.
Overall, I think there's two groups: Those using Linux as an ark until the waters clear for Mac OS, and those using it for the sheer geekiness of it all. I'm in group #2.
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The detatched signatures that you should be downloading with your kernel that are signed by kernel.org.
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"Darwin" is the catch-all open-source name at Apple. There's the Darwin OS (which we all know as Darwin) and the Darwin Streaming Server (which is the QT server, and what you're thinking of).
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The only reason people really need guns in the US, and we do, is because others have them and we wish to equal the threat. Kind of like the nuclear arms race; we only had them because others did, who had them because we did, etc.
If there were no guns then the need for guns would not exist. Simple. Whether Bob the Honkey with his pickup and gun rack for hunting "'coons" and rabbits and deer (oh what a vicious animal) believes me is another issue.
And I've lived in Tennesee and Texas so believe me, I know about the fear of rednecks with guns...
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Frankly I'd prefer someone in office who wasn't used to breaking the law and getting away with it.
.. isn't that's what being in office is all about?
Umm
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