First, Islam DOES promote killing non-Muslims. Read a little bit sometime. The Qu'ran clearly states that when a Muslim meets a non-Muslim, they are to give them the choice of converting or becoming a slave. If they refuse to do either, then you are commanded to kill them. How is that not promoting killing those of a different religion?
Second, since all the other religions do NOT promote killing and in fact promote peace, love, and tolerance, anyone who kills in that religions name is not following that religion. Therefore they can't be a Christian / Hindu / whatever. It doesn't matter if they BELIEVE that they're doing god's work, if the religion doesn't promote it, then they are not following that religion. THAT is why you have no argument. You're taking the actions of a person who doesn't follow a religion and blaming a religion (that they don't follow) for their actions. That's a horribly bogus argument.
If that has happened to you, it's because you don't know how to tell it to police the right way.
You've obviously never dealt with the police. Even the cops that aren't corrupt have enough of an ego thinking that they're the supreme power and we only exist to serve them that they'll go ballistic. Try telling the same thing to the military too. Or a college professor. Despite the fact that all of these people are employed by our money, they do not see themselves as working for us. They see us as working for them.
Besides being a slippery slope fallacy (I can make a similar fallacious argument against porn), you fail to face the reality that companies already act as agents of the state in many cases, from being tax collectors to helping catch money launderers. Furthermore you made unwarranted comparisons to the Gestapo and Godwined the thread.
No, a slippery slope is if I said "it WILL lead to..." - I said it COULD lead to it, which is perfectly logical to believe. If it worked for the government once, you better believe they'll try it again. Or have you been living under a rock and don't realize how corrupt the government of every country is?
When a company collects sales tax from you, there is no reason at all to expect that your name or information will be attached to it in any way. There is no reason for a person to think that by going on to facebook, aim, WoW, or even slashdot that the people running that site / service will go running to the police to tell them where you are. It's one thing (though again, highly immoral) if the government gets a warrant to force the company to do it. However, that's not the case here, Blizzard did it perfectly willingly.
As for your Godwin bullshit, that's just an excuse for people like you to avoid when people criticize fascist behavior. Instead of putting up an actual argument for police having such extreme power, you simply cry "Godwin!" and run away without ever disputing the actual point made. Why? Because you don't have a counterpoint. You have no justification for why you support the police having ultimate power, but you want it and get upset if anyone tries to point out the flaws in that theory. Good job on making a post that has nothing to do with the issue at hand!
Well first off, Islam is the only religion to promote killing those who are of a different religion. So yes, your point applies to Muslims, but that's it. Secondly, just because someone is christian and kills someone because "they think it's wrong", it doesn't mean that religion had anything to do with it. That's like blaming blacks because a black guy killed an abortion doctor because he thought abortion was wrong. A person's actions are theirs, and (as I said before) no religion except Islam promotes killing people for not following your views, so you cannot blame religion for their actions, only the person.
Complying with the police already has loopholes - like client-attorney / patient-doctor / parishioner-priest confidentiality. Companies should by law have this same thing built in, where they cannot rat you out to the government just for using their service which is unrelated to a crime. Blizzard had no business getting involved because the crime he is accused of is completely unrelated to WoW.
First off, suicide is only illegal in order to make sure that the slaves keep paying taxes and giving the politicians people to order around. Politicians are aware that each person who dies means less tax money going into their pockets and less people for them to lord power over.
Secondly, on what grounds does wanting to die qualify as a mental health problem? Whether or not life is worth living is a question that can only be answered by each person because they known their own circumstances and values. Politicians would say that as long as you have money and power, life is worth living. Others would say that it's family that makes life worth living. Others sex, racing, gambling, gaming, learning, whatever. If you take away the things a person finds necessary for it to be worth putting up with all the bullshit in life, then how does that make them insane to not want to put up with it anymore?
The police are working for us, they are our employees.
Try telling the police that they're your employee sometime. You'll probably be going home missing a few teeth. The police are working for the government not the people. They don't give a crap about right and wrong, they only care about what politicians tell them to do. They are the Stormtroopers of society and politicians are the Empire.
Cooperating with the police to do a job we give them is not evil.
Did you choose to make going over the speed limit while still having your car perfectly under control a crime? I didn't. Did you choose to waste billions of tax dollars a year on imprisoning people and ruining lives because they chose to do some drugs that only hurt them? I didn't. Politicians chose those things without asking us.
It doesn't matter if Blizzard handed over a guy who didn't pay his rent, a drug dealer, a murderer, or Osama bin Laden. They are paid to provide a service (gaming), not to track down criminals. This is setting a bad precedent where the government could offer companies incentives (handouts, tax credits, winning a lawsuit, etc) in order for companies to act as the Gestapo for the politicians.
This is not "a weapon", it's words. However, lets go with your "it turned out that they were right" idea for a second.
Everyone but you has been arguing that it's just words and who cares. You're saying "what if they're right?!" - well what if they are? How is telling you the truth that "If you don't do X you'll suffer consequence Y" threatening anyone? Hell, they're trying to HELP you. You cannot claim that someone saying "If you don't put on this safety equipment, you'll die a horrible death" is threatening you. Even the most despicable lawyer wouldn't even try to take your case.
Wow, making things up much? There is no reason whatsoever that someone will "try to impose hell on earth" on anyone simply because they say "People who do not follow my religion will not be saved and will go to hell".
I don't give a crap what religion (or lack thereof) people practice. However, you're just blatantly making shit up to bash religion.
It's still draining the battery on your laptop meaning that if you want a full charge, you have to plug it in. All you're doing is making excuses for Apple lacking a rather basic feature that everyone else offers. I own many Apple products and will probably buy more - but I'm not going to pretend like they don't do some stupid things and leave out basic features for no reason.
If a religious person who believes in hell makes this statement, then it's clearly intended to be a hurtful insult at minimum, and a threat of violence at worst.
How the hell do you translate "if you don't follow X religion, you will go to hell" as "a threat of violence"?! That's making a HUGE leap.
Sure, hibernate would be nice, just never needed it.
Call me crazy, but I prefer not to have the battery draining unless I'm only going to be gone for less than an hour. Using hibernate has all the benefits of sleep (keeping files and programs open) and all the benefits of powering off (not using electricity) with the added bonus of booting faster than just shutting it down.
Is hibernation a make it or break it feature? No. But it's ridiculous that Apple doesn't take the small amount of time to add it to OS X. Hell, they could probably have it written in less than a day.
You're also ignoring the fact that you have to re-open any files, programs, and possibly websites that were open. Not only does that take time, but it's also a pain to keep track of everything. Hibernate is wonderful, but you'll never even give it credibility because it's the evil Windows that uses it (yes, I realize Linux has it too, but I've yet to see a Linux system wake from sleep or hibernate - I love Linux, but that's always been a problem on every Linux system I've used).
Besides - 2 minutes? My POS laptop can wake from hibernate to everything working perfectly in Win 7 in under a minute. My desktop is even faster.
I don't understand why people think it is ok to force their beliefs on me.
Well, you do realize that by banning it, you're forcing YOUR beliefs on others. No matter how you do it, someone is going to be upset and be forced to do something they don't want.
Agree. I'm thinking of getting a Macbook Pro, and it's tempting just to run it Windows 7 only. OS X really doesn't have any advantages over Win 7 that I can think of - especially since my friends who own Mac's are always trying to find scripts and programs to download to get OS X to have features that Windows has had for forever (hibernate, keyboard shortcut to lock the screen, things like that).
then ask that the law be used against priests who advocate that those who do not believe will burn in Hell, since it's a pretty abusive thing to say about a person and surely shouldn't be allowed.
Except atheists don't believe in heaven or hell, so how can you threaten them with going to hell? That's like threatening me with sending me to the Phantom Zone - since I don't believe it exists, why would I be afraid of you trying to send me there?
It's a "people who try to take things from others by force suck" movie.
It's an anti-socialist movie? Hm, maybe I might get around to seeing it sometime then. Regardless of the "moral of the story", it doesn't look worth paying $10 to see.
You can't conceive of a sane human wanting a keyboard that can be altered to provide only the keys necessary for a given program? A keyboard that allows you to type regardless of what way you're holding your device? A keyboard that doesn't have to have a dozen symbols on each key to show what it can do if you hit shift / alt / shit+alt / function? Apparently you never leave your desk much
For a desktop or laptop, absolutely, a keyboard is essential. However, on a phone, a touch screen is infinitely easier to use than a physical keyboard. The touchscreen is a big reason why the iPhone is so good - because it's a touchscreen done right. I've used plenty of other touchscreen phones that, while better than clunky and hard to read non-touchscreen phones, are horrible compared to an iphone in the simplicity and ease with which they work.
I'm sorry that your main laptop is so ridiculously tiny. I'm far from being a person with big hands, but those keyboards are way too damn cramped to use.
Did you patent being a moron and calling Win 7 "Vista SP3" when if you ever used it, you'd realize how horribly wrong you are? Cuz you should - you'd make tons of money from idiot trolls like yourself!
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First, Islam DOES promote killing non-Muslims. Read a little bit sometime. The Qu'ran clearly states that when a Muslim meets a non-Muslim, they are to give them the choice of converting or becoming a slave. If they refuse to do either, then you are commanded to kill them. How is that not promoting killing those of a different religion?
Second, since all the other religions do NOT promote killing and in fact promote peace, love, and tolerance, anyone who kills in that religions name is not following that religion. Therefore they can't be a Christian / Hindu / whatever. It doesn't matter if they BELIEVE that they're doing god's work, if the religion doesn't promote it, then they are not following that religion. THAT is why you have no argument. You're taking the actions of a person who doesn't follow a religion and blaming a religion (that they don't follow) for their actions. That's a horribly bogus argument.
If that has happened to you, it's because you don't know how to tell it to police the right way.
You've obviously never dealt with the police. Even the cops that aren't corrupt have enough of an ego thinking that they're the supreme power and we only exist to serve them that they'll go ballistic. Try telling the same thing to the military too. Or a college professor. Despite the fact that all of these people are employed by our money, they do not see themselves as working for us. They see us as working for them.
Besides being a slippery slope fallacy (I can make a similar fallacious argument against porn), you fail to face the reality that companies already act as agents of the state in many cases, from being tax collectors to helping catch money launderers. Furthermore you made unwarranted comparisons to the Gestapo and Godwined the thread.
No, a slippery slope is if I said "it WILL lead to..." - I said it COULD lead to it, which is perfectly logical to believe. If it worked for the government once, you better believe they'll try it again. Or have you been living under a rock and don't realize how corrupt the government of every country is?
When a company collects sales tax from you, there is no reason at all to expect that your name or information will be attached to it in any way. There is no reason for a person to think that by going on to facebook, aim, WoW, or even slashdot that the people running that site / service will go running to the police to tell them where you are. It's one thing (though again, highly immoral) if the government gets a warrant to force the company to do it. However, that's not the case here, Blizzard did it perfectly willingly.
As for your Godwin bullshit, that's just an excuse for people like you to avoid when people criticize fascist behavior. Instead of putting up an actual argument for police having such extreme power, you simply cry "Godwin!" and run away without ever disputing the actual point made. Why? Because you don't have a counterpoint. You have no justification for why you support the police having ultimate power, but you want it and get upset if anyone tries to point out the flaws in that theory. Good job on making a post that has nothing to do with the issue at hand!
Well first off, Islam is the only religion to promote killing those who are of a different religion. So yes, your point applies to Muslims, but that's it. Secondly, just because someone is christian and kills someone because "they think it's wrong", it doesn't mean that religion had anything to do with it. That's like blaming blacks because a black guy killed an abortion doctor because he thought abortion was wrong. A person's actions are theirs, and (as I said before) no religion except Islam promotes killing people for not following your views, so you cannot blame religion for their actions, only the person.
Complying with the police already has loopholes - like client-attorney / patient-doctor / parishioner-priest confidentiality. Companies should by law have this same thing built in, where they cannot rat you out to the government just for using their service which is unrelated to a crime. Blizzard had no business getting involved because the crime he is accused of is completely unrelated to WoW.
First off, suicide is only illegal in order to make sure that the slaves keep paying taxes and giving the politicians people to order around. Politicians are aware that each person who dies means less tax money going into their pockets and less people for them to lord power over.
Secondly, on what grounds does wanting to die qualify as a mental health problem? Whether or not life is worth living is a question that can only be answered by each person because they known their own circumstances and values. Politicians would say that as long as you have money and power, life is worth living. Others would say that it's family that makes life worth living. Others sex, racing, gambling, gaming, learning, whatever. If you take away the things a person finds necessary for it to be worth putting up with all the bullshit in life, then how does that make them insane to not want to put up with it anymore?
The police are working for us, they are our employees.
Try telling the police that they're your employee sometime. You'll probably be going home missing a few teeth. The police are working for the government not the people. They don't give a crap about right and wrong, they only care about what politicians tell them to do. They are the Stormtroopers of society and politicians are the Empire.
Cooperating with the police to do a job we give them is not evil.
Did you choose to make going over the speed limit while still having your car perfectly under control a crime? I didn't. Did you choose to waste billions of tax dollars a year on imprisoning people and ruining lives because they chose to do some drugs that only hurt them? I didn't. Politicians chose those things without asking us.
It doesn't matter if Blizzard handed over a guy who didn't pay his rent, a drug dealer, a murderer, or Osama bin Laden. They are paid to provide a service (gaming), not to track down criminals. This is setting a bad precedent where the government could offer companies incentives (handouts, tax credits, winning a lawsuit, etc) in order for companies to act as the Gestapo for the politicians.
This is not "a weapon", it's words. However, lets go with your "it turned out that they were right" idea for a second.
Everyone but you has been arguing that it's just words and who cares. You're saying "what if they're right?!" - well what if they are? How is telling you the truth that "If you don't do X you'll suffer consequence Y" threatening anyone? Hell, they're trying to HELP you. You cannot claim that someone saying "If you don't put on this safety equipment, you'll die a horrible death" is threatening you. Even the most despicable lawyer wouldn't even try to take your case.
Wow, making things up much? There is no reason whatsoever that someone will "try to impose hell on earth" on anyone simply because they say "People who do not follow my religion will not be saved and will go to hell".
I don't give a crap what religion (or lack thereof) people practice. However, you're just blatantly making shit up to bash religion.
It's still draining the battery on your laptop meaning that if you want a full charge, you have to plug it in. All you're doing is making excuses for Apple lacking a rather basic feature that everyone else offers. I own many Apple products and will probably buy more - but I'm not going to pretend like they don't do some stupid things and leave out basic features for no reason.
If a religious person who believes in hell makes this statement, then it's clearly intended to be a hurtful insult at minimum, and a threat of violence at worst.
How the hell do you translate "if you don't follow X religion, you will go to hell" as "a threat of violence"?! That's making a HUGE leap.
Sure, hibernate would be nice, just never needed it.
Call me crazy, but I prefer not to have the battery draining unless I'm only going to be gone for less than an hour. Using hibernate has all the benefits of sleep (keeping files and programs open) and all the benefits of powering off (not using electricity) with the added bonus of booting faster than just shutting it down.
Is hibernation a make it or break it feature? No. But it's ridiculous that Apple doesn't take the small amount of time to add it to OS X. Hell, they could probably have it written in less than a day.
You're also ignoring the fact that you have to re-open any files, programs, and possibly websites that were open. Not only does that take time, but it's also a pain to keep track of everything. Hibernate is wonderful, but you'll never even give it credibility because it's the evil Windows that uses it (yes, I realize Linux has it too, but I've yet to see a Linux system wake from sleep or hibernate - I love Linux, but that's always been a problem on every Linux system I've used).
Besides - 2 minutes? My POS laptop can wake from hibernate to everything working perfectly in Win 7 in under a minute. My desktop is even faster.
I don't understand why people think it is ok to force their beliefs on me.
Well, you do realize that by banning it, you're forcing YOUR beliefs on others. No matter how you do it, someone is going to be upset and be forced to do something they don't want.
Agree. I'm thinking of getting a Macbook Pro, and it's tempting just to run it Windows 7 only. OS X really doesn't have any advantages over Win 7 that I can think of - especially since my friends who own Mac's are always trying to find scripts and programs to download to get OS X to have features that Windows has had for forever (hibernate, keyboard shortcut to lock the screen, things like that).
then ask that the law be used against priests who advocate that those who do not believe will burn in Hell, since it's a pretty abusive thing to say about a person and surely shouldn't be allowed.
Except atheists don't believe in heaven or hell, so how can you threaten them with going to hell? That's like threatening me with sending me to the Phantom Zone - since I don't believe it exists, why would I be afraid of you trying to send me there?
Oh man, you totally made my night with that! I definitely laughed at that one!
It's a "people who try to take things from others by force suck" movie.
It's an anti-socialist movie? Hm, maybe I might get around to seeing it sometime then. Regardless of the "moral of the story", it doesn't look worth paying $10 to see.
You can't conceive of a sane human wanting a keyboard that can be altered to provide only the keys necessary for a given program? A keyboard that allows you to type regardless of what way you're holding your device? A keyboard that doesn't have to have a dozen symbols on each key to show what it can do if you hit shift / alt / shit+alt / function? Apparently you never leave your desk much
For a desktop or laptop, absolutely, a keyboard is essential. However, on a phone, a touch screen is infinitely easier to use than a physical keyboard. The touchscreen is a big reason why the iPhone is so good - because it's a touchscreen done right. I've used plenty of other touchscreen phones that, while better than clunky and hard to read non-touchscreen phones, are horrible compared to an iphone in the simplicity and ease with which they work.
Except that there are non-BBC channels and you have to pay the tax even if you never watch a BBC channel.
To use a car analogy, this would be like having to pay a monthly fee to Ford for "car services" regardless of what brand your car is.
You don't use 3G, do you? I typically get around 120-160 KB / sec with 3G.
That's what docking stations with a keyboard, mouse and a couple of 30" screens, are for.
Which entirely defeats the point of having a laptop....
I'm sorry that your main laptop is so ridiculously tiny. I'm far from being a person with big hands, but those keyboards are way too damn cramped to use.
Did you patent being a moron and calling Win 7 "Vista SP3" when if you ever used it, you'd realize how horribly wrong you are? Cuz you should - you'd make tons of money from idiot trolls like yourself!
Wow. Give money to the companies that perform worst. You know, I'm sure that there's a flaw in that idea somewhere.
Well why shouldn't he think it's a great idea - after all, it's what the government did with the auto industry.
A very good point as well.