Of course it will be a money pit. It will be like 10% of Apple's cash on hand. No new business is profitable on day one, especially against entrenched troglodytes like GM.
Businesses that are consolidated and set in their ways like the car industry would benefit from some disruption, even if Apple ultimately fails.
Yep. The exception I see is that sometimes the dude has to hop out when there is a car too close and he needs to drag it out in the street. Autonomous trash trucks won't handle that.
Recently Ford ended up being shamed into sending checks to a bunch of C-MAX hybrid owners who all consistently got less than the sticker MPG. Ford had re-used the drive train from their Fusion hybrid, which allowed them under EPA rules to skip the retesting for fuel economy. The C-MAX weighed different and had different aerodynamics. Owners who bought a hybrid were justifiably angry that a headline performance number simply was not true, even though Ford did nothing illegal. It is unknown as to how willful the original deception was, or if it was an honest goof up. Enough hay was made over the problem that Ford cut checks for the lifetime increased gas usage and adjusted the sticker MPG numbers to match reality.
With actual intentional fraud for VW, it is reasonable to expect owners to get some monetary compensation for the cost of gas or any lost performance.
Update indicates it could be $18 Billion in fines, $37,500 per non-complying car. It is doubtful it will stand at that amount, but a fine is very much in play.
+1. Nothing trained me to shut off lights I didn't need and to learn to tolerate CFL bulbs like moving out and paying my own electric bill.
Some of us also actually do make decisions based on a world view, not our own immediate gratification.
So while folks in drought stricken California may despise short showers from a low flow shower head, many who could easily pay their bills will still cut back even if they can afford high rates because *gasp* they want to contribute to the common good where they reasonably can do so.
Driving around with a known polluting car is awful. You are a jerk for suggesting folks just ignore their cars being 40x out of compliance. Diesel particulate emissions are a major contributor to diseases like lung cancer, asthma, etc. Eff you.
I couldn't easily find if VW is just going to update the software, or what?
A better question is why we have plateaued on performance so badly. 7700k vs 4770k is a wash at best after 2 years for power and performance (way less than a Moore's law cycle would lead you to expect). Consumer grade processors are stuck at 4 cores, and now we get to pay for a bunch of low end GPU die area that will never get used. I don't get it.
Give me a 6 core with no GPU over a 4 core with a low end GPU any day.
Tax income at the luxury level at whatever rate is needed to balance things out. Happiness plateaus at ~80k for a household, so anything above that should be taxed at whatever rate balances the budget.
I currently pay too little taxes and wish people like myself were taxed more so that the roads could be maintained and the kids be healthy and well educated. I especially think those making their money in the stock market should be paying a higher rate on those profits than I pay on my income, but we live in a pretty sick world.
300 Million times $10,000 is 3 trillion. So we need to capture 16% of the GDP in taxation to pay for this.
$869 Million of social security payments would be replaced by this. As would $949 Million of welfare payments. So the majority of this would be covered by the costs of the programs it would replace, and there are many smaller programs this would replace that I am not going to take the time to chase down and add up.
Has social security caused rampant inflation? How about child tax credits? Have welfare payments caused our currently explosive 1% inflation?
What we have now is not pure Capitalism, what the Soviets had was not pure Communism, and so forth.
Central planning of an economy has been shown to be very inefficient. Rapacious unbridled capitalism has been shown to be rapacious. No pure doctrine has ever survived the test of time. Inevitably a decent economy needs to employ things that also happen to be part of Socialism, Communism, and Capitalism.
How about we have a philosophical/economic debate without immediately siloing ideas and arguments as a way to dismiss them entirely?
I'd be all for a simple system that supplied $20k per adult, $10k per child, and taxed everything above that at whatever rate was necessary to balance the budget on a 5 year moving average of tax receipts.
I'd also be OK with making the tax rates even more progressive than even that. Our current system of tons of incentives, exemptions, and loopholes is maddening and nothing approaching fair.
The simple fix would be to make them liable for any break-ins for known security issues not patched within 30 days of availability for phones sold in the last 3 years.
Shipping already orphaned phones is awful. Shipping a phone with vulnerabilities that will never get fixed should be criminal.
I'm in the market to replace my phone, and it is just a sea of crap to wade through. It is very hard as a consumer to figure out how much crapware there is on a phone, or what the odds of ever getting an update are, or if the update will just be extra crapware that fills up the meager remaining on-board storage. I hate the idea of throwing money at Apple's walled garden, but compared to Android's dystopian Wild West (Westworld?) it is not looking too bad these days.
When the software behaves counter to the stated purpose, or the company behind it lies about the what they are doing with data collected by the software, it is malware.
Sadly Windows appears to fall into this with all their recent auto-downloading of Windows 10, and extra monitoring being added to 7 and 8. I welcome a broader definition that shames such behavior, if not criminalizes it. Google is a little more upfront about this being their business model, but I still squirm at their cavalier collection of every piece of information they can get their paws on.
API's are just one piece necessary for a committed individual to be able to accomplish something. Even with well documented API's the average Joe just wants stuff to work. If I have to go learn a dozen API's just to make a sandwich, I won't.
Learning to code does not mean you are magically omnipotent. As a microwave design engineer I have coded a fair number of things for work along the way, but if I revert to writing code most of my daily work I will immediately be far behind schedule. Each API is another hunk of vocabulary to learn and become fluent in to be able to make use of it. Most of my design software has an API, but becoming an expert in that means I will not be one for my real work. We have dedicated CAD guys to do most of the heavy lifting for customization.
Might as well argue that once everyone learns to solder the plants in China will go out of business...
These have been written to even exclude your lawyer with lots of scare tactics. Lots of statutes like obstructing justice give broad capability to go after you. We are all un-indicted felons in some way. All it takes is a determined enough prosecutor and enough apathy on the public's part..
My guess is the guy really was not even dealing with anything all that important. Time and again when the veil has finally been pulled back there have been only benign things being protected. What we have seen is a pattern where warrants are too hard, or the evidence for one is too shaky, so an NSL is an easy way to get the same thing done without all those annoying due process steps to deal with.
It is the corollary to the TSA security theater. "National Security" gets waived around like some trump card to get around our rights even when it is completely unwarranted.
11 years to get justice is not something we should be proud of. How we can argue our system of laws and democracy is any sort of role model is completely lost on me.
They are actually backing away from their all-in approach. The most recent approach is all-in with no steering wheel, but limited to 25 MPH. Commercial applications for a smaller, slower, all autonomous cars are very few. It is an admission on their part that they need to scale the car back to what a fully autonomous car can be trusted with, which does not include long arbitrary road trips into areas that may be poorly LIDAR mapped, or may have construction going on.
Regardless, we should encourage good behavior even if it was preceded by a temper tantrum. Same with your dog, treat him nicely when he finally comes back rather than punishing him for being bad and running away in the first place.
Yes, we should treat the right as spoiled children and bad dogs, since that is how they act.
Hard to have any sympathy for the situation. If you sign up for an currency that is designed to be outside of the world governments, don't come crying to the government that dumb ass idea blew up in your face.
I am not a fan of Google, but I give them a lot of credit for pulling back the curtain on their efforts and sharing the stories of what happened when they started letting the rabble try out their cars.
All the other stories I see are fully of rosy cheer and overly optimistic projections. Even articles about Google more than 6 months old were the same.
What we see is that expecting a human to be a hot-standby driver is not realistic. I've experienced this when doing a road trip with my wife. When she asks me to take a shift it takes me a good minute or so to get my bearings to take over driving once we swap seats, even though I have been alert and paying attention. What is the speed limit here? Wait, do I want I5 North or South? That is even after getting a few minute warning that she is looking for a turnoff.
One could easily expect a sudden spike in the rate of accidents and deaths at construction area due to a half booted up human wrongly assessing the situation who only have seconds to grab the wheel and takeover.
After all, if I have to fully pay attention and cannot do anything else, what is the point? The value proposition needs to be either saved time or saved money. My current insurance is not a major burden, and so that limits the impact of even a 100% discount for buying autonomous. If I can't sleep, work, or play games and must watch the road, it doesn't give me back nay time either. So the value proposition to the average car owner is pretty weak.
More likely we will see a lot of morphing of these technologies into crash resistant cars that step in to augment drivers (see the recent automatic braking announcement). Johny Cabs might be the next most likely, where a fixed area can be well mapped and maintenance can be better regulated. Truly autonomous cars for the masses are much further off, at least a decade or more.
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Of course it will be a money pit. It will be like 10% of Apple's cash on hand. No new business is profitable on day one, especially against entrenched troglodytes like GM.
Businesses that are consolidated and set in their ways like the car industry would benefit from some disruption, even if Apple ultimately fails.
Or they could lower their prices...
Yep. The exception I see is that sometimes the dude has to hop out when there is a car too close and he needs to drag it out in the street. Autonomous trash trucks won't handle that.
Recently Ford ended up being shamed into sending checks to a bunch of C-MAX hybrid owners who all consistently got less than the sticker MPG. Ford had re-used the drive train from their Fusion hybrid, which allowed them under EPA rules to skip the retesting for fuel economy. The C-MAX weighed different and had different aerodynamics. Owners who bought a hybrid were justifiably angry that a headline performance number simply was not true, even though Ford did nothing illegal. It is unknown as to how willful the original deception was, or if it was an honest goof up. Enough hay was made over the problem that Ford cut checks for the lifetime increased gas usage and adjusted the sticker MPG numbers to match reality.
With actual intentional fraud for VW, it is reasonable to expect owners to get some monetary compensation for the cost of gas or any lost performance.
Update indicates it could be $18 Billion in fines, $37,500 per non-complying car. It is doubtful it will stand at that amount, but a fine is very much in play.
Here in Communist Oregon the state does all the smog testing. It takes away the incentives to fudge things one way or the other.
+1. Nothing trained me to shut off lights I didn't need and to learn to tolerate CFL bulbs like moving out and paying my own electric bill.
Some of us also actually do make decisions based on a world view, not our own immediate gratification.
So while folks in drought stricken California may despise short showers from a low flow shower head, many who could easily pay their bills will still cut back even if they can afford high rates because *gasp* they want to contribute to the common good where they reasonably can do so.
Driving around with a known polluting car is awful. You are a jerk for suggesting folks just ignore their cars being 40x out of compliance. Diesel particulate emissions are a major contributor to diseases like lung cancer, asthma, etc. Eff you.
I couldn't easily find if VW is just going to update the software, or what?
A better question is why we have plateaued on performance so badly. 7700k vs 4770k is a wash at best after 2 years for power and performance (way less than a Moore's law cycle would lead you to expect). Consumer grade processors are stuck at 4 cores, and now we get to pay for a bunch of low end GPU die area that will never get used. I don't get it.
Give me a 6 core with no GPU over a 4 core with a low end GPU any day.
Tax income at the luxury level at whatever rate is needed to balance things out. Happiness plateaus at ~80k for a household, so anything above that should be taxed at whatever rate balances the budget.
I currently pay too little taxes and wish people like myself were taxed more so that the roads could be maintained and the kids be healthy and well educated. I especially think those making their money in the stock market should be paying a higher rate on those profits than I pay on my income, but we live in a pretty sick world.
Our reproduction rate in the US is already below maintenance level. Your comments are just sick.
GPD of USA last years was 18.14 Trillion
300 Million times $10,000 is 3 trillion. So we need to capture 16% of the GDP in taxation to pay for this.
$869 Million of social security payments would be replaced by this. As would $949 Million of welfare payments. So the majority of this would be covered by the costs of the programs it would replace, and there are many smaller programs this would replace that I am not going to take the time to chase down and add up.
Has social security caused rampant inflation? How about child tax credits? Have welfare payments caused our currently explosive 1% inflation?
The simple math does not sound too bad.
What we have now is not pure Capitalism, what the Soviets had was not pure Communism, and so forth.
Central planning of an economy has been shown to be very inefficient. Rapacious unbridled capitalism has been shown to be rapacious. No pure doctrine has ever survived the test of time. Inevitably a decent economy needs to employ things that also happen to be part of Socialism, Communism, and Capitalism.
How about we have a philosophical/economic debate without immediately siloing ideas and arguments as a way to dismiss them entirely?
I'd be all for a simple system that supplied $20k per adult, $10k per child, and taxed everything above that at whatever rate was necessary to balance the budget on a 5 year moving average of tax receipts.
I'd also be OK with making the tax rates even more progressive than even that. Our current system of tons of incentives, exemptions, and loopholes is maddening and nothing approaching fair.
The simple fix would be to make them liable for any break-ins for known security issues not patched within 30 days of availability for phones sold in the last 3 years.
Shipping already orphaned phones is awful. Shipping a phone with vulnerabilities that will never get fixed should be criminal.
I'm in the market to replace my phone, and it is just a sea of crap to wade through. It is very hard as a consumer to figure out how much crapware there is on a phone, or what the odds of ever getting an update are, or if the update will just be extra crapware that fills up the meager remaining on-board storage. I hate the idea of throwing money at Apple's walled garden, but compared to Android's dystopian Wild West (Westworld?) it is not looking too bad these days.
When the software behaves counter to the stated purpose, or the company behind it lies about the what they are doing with data collected by the software, it is malware.
Sadly Windows appears to fall into this with all their recent auto-downloading of Windows 10, and extra monitoring being added to 7 and 8. I welcome a broader definition that shames such behavior, if not criminalizes it. Google is a little more upfront about this being their business model, but I still squirm at their cavalier collection of every piece of information they can get their paws on.
Agreed.
API's are just one piece necessary for a committed individual to be able to accomplish something. Even with well documented API's the average Joe just wants stuff to work. If I have to go learn a dozen API's just to make a sandwich, I won't.
Learning to code does not mean you are magically omnipotent. As a microwave design engineer I have coded a fair number of things for work along the way, but if I revert to writing code most of my daily work I will immediately be far behind schedule. Each API is another hunk of vocabulary to learn and become fluent in to be able to make use of it. Most of my design software has an API, but becoming an expert in that means I will not be one for my real work. We have dedicated CAD guys to do most of the heavy lifting for customization.
Might as well argue that once everyone learns to solder the plants in China will go out of business...
These have been written to even exclude your lawyer with lots of scare tactics. Lots of statutes like obstructing justice give broad capability to go after you. We are all un-indicted felons in some way. All it takes is a determined enough prosecutor and enough apathy on the public's part..
My guess is the guy really was not even dealing with anything all that important. Time and again when the veil has finally been pulled back there have been only benign things being protected. What we have seen is a pattern where warrants are too hard, or the evidence for one is too shaky, so an NSL is an easy way to get the same thing done without all those annoying due process steps to deal with.
It is the corollary to the TSA security theater. "National Security" gets waived around like some trump card to get around our rights even when it is completely unwarranted.
11 years to get justice is not something we should be proud of. How we can argue our system of laws and democracy is any sort of role model is completely lost on me.
They are actually backing away from their all-in approach. The most recent approach is all-in with no steering wheel, but limited to 25 MPH. Commercial applications for a smaller, slower, all autonomous cars are very few. It is an admission on their part that they need to scale the car back to what a fully autonomous car can be trusted with, which does not include long arbitrary road trips into areas that may be poorly LIDAR mapped, or may have construction going on.
Regardless, we should encourage good behavior even if it was preceded by a temper tantrum. Same with your dog, treat him nicely when he finally comes back rather than punishing him for being bad and running away in the first place.
Yes, we should treat the right as spoiled children and bad dogs, since that is how they act.
Hard to have any sympathy for the situation. If you sign up for an currency that is designed to be outside of the world governments, don't come crying to the government that dumb ass idea blew up in your face.
I am not a fan of Google, but I give them a lot of credit for pulling back the curtain on their efforts and sharing the stories of what happened when they started letting the rabble try out their cars.
All the other stories I see are fully of rosy cheer and overly optimistic projections. Even articles about Google more than 6 months old were the same.
What we see is that expecting a human to be a hot-standby driver is not realistic. I've experienced this when doing a road trip with my wife. When she asks me to take a shift it takes me a good minute or so to get my bearings to take over driving once we swap seats, even though I have been alert and paying attention. What is the speed limit here? Wait, do I want I5 North or South? That is even after getting a few minute warning that she is looking for a turnoff.
One could easily expect a sudden spike in the rate of accidents and deaths at construction area due to a half booted up human wrongly assessing the situation who only have seconds to grab the wheel and takeover.
After all, if I have to fully pay attention and cannot do anything else, what is the point? The value proposition needs to be either saved time or saved money. My current insurance is not a major burden, and so that limits the impact of even a 100% discount for buying autonomous. If I can't sleep, work, or play games and must watch the road, it doesn't give me back nay time either. So the value proposition to the average car owner is pretty weak.
More likely we will see a lot of morphing of these technologies into crash resistant cars that step in to augment drivers (see the recent automatic braking announcement). Johny Cabs might be the next most likely, where a fixed area can be well mapped and maintenance can be better regulated. Truly autonomous cars for the masses are much further off, at least a decade or more.
Expecting new infrastructure (at least in the USA) is even more unrealistic than waiting for autonomous cars to become fully self sufficient.