I remember when I used to dabble in warez for the Mac, lots of sites would host patches so that people could take the version that they have and make it work like the warez version.
Would that be legal in this case?
If the K++ people didn't actually host the copyrighted material of the other company, could they be open to criminal or civil prosecution?
I bought the exact same drive last saturday at Best Buy. I have had problems if I try to burn a DVD with more than 4.2GB of data on it. I upgraded my firmware and even tried other software. Have you had the same problem?
Guns can kill people. That's worth a little restriction on freedom, that I don't have to worry about being shot in a courthouse. The worst a person with a camcorder is going to do is make a crappy copy of a movie.
In case you didn't know, it is not always a crime to kill another person. There are situations where it is perfectly legal. It is NEVER legal to make a tape of the movie showing in the theater(unless you happen to be the copyright holder).
Outfit the trucks with GPS equipment that the driver can turn off when he's done working?
I mean, sure when the driver is off of the clock what he does is his own business. But when he is on the clock, getting paid the money of the taxpayers, it is not unreasonable to expect him to account for all of that time. Is he really working, or is he "visiting" with his girlfriend?
Then turn it off and keep it in your fucking pocket. I don't believe that this law is going to mandate pat downs and strip searches.
When I went to see Freddy Vs. Jason some asshole kept sending and receiving text messages. He kept right on doing it for about 20 minutes until I had enough and yelled at him like he was a child in front of a theater full of people.
Yes, I too have a cell phone. Yes, I too have a PDA. You know what I do when I am in a movie theater? I turn them the fuck off! Have a little consideration for everyone else.
In the state of PA, where I live, you can get a license to carry a concealed firearm. It is against the law to take it into a courthouse. Even if you're just going in to pay a fine. Even though you may not have the intention of hurting anyone the law can be used to set a reasonable limit.
That is what this is. It is reasonable to prohibit people from taking camcorders into movie theaters.
This is not the MPAA using the DMCA as a way to force people to use "approved" players. I've seen cam jobs of movies that are still in theaters being circulated at the local flea market. How do you think they get there?
As for your example, if you can't afford a car why are you taking the train to another city to purchase cameras?
Before I left my previous employer, I made sure that I got copies of EVERYONE'S email address in my department. Including the address that is forwarded to every employee in the company.
Campaign finances, redistricting, gerrymandering and everything except outright fraud would be non issues if people would get off of their asses and go vote.
Sure, it's a complicated world and we all have other things to worry about, like feeding our families and paying our bills, but giving an hour or two twice per year isn't asking too much.
I bought a boxed version of redHat 4.3 and I got 5.0 with Linux for Dummies, I have no paid money for a single distro of theirs since. I have no intention of ever giving another cent to RedHat.
I don't begrudge them revenue, after all they are a business with fiduciary obligations to their shareholders, but since I don't own a share of their stock, I have no loyalty to them.
Yes, pedophiles have their own group of low-life rapists (molestors), just like gays and heteros have their rapists as well.
Pedophiles who never violate any children have little to worry about from our legal system.
However, the vast majority are still good people who'd never act on their urges.
Those people tend to not have convictions to worry about.
This idea of ruining the lives of sex offenders by plastering their personal information all over the place is ridiculous.
I don't care if it ruins the life of someone who has ruined the lives of other people. Don't get me wrong, child molestors are the lowest form of life on this planet. Making a registry for just anyone to browse won't keep people safe.
I know it's already been said many times that murderers, and "regular" rapists, can live in obscurity, so why must sex offenders be singled out?
"Regular" rapists are sex offenders. I don't have a problem with keeping a list of them that the police can use to find suspects, or to monitor them to prevent crimes. Putting a list on the internet that Joe sixpack can browse when he's feeling like dishing out a little justice of his own is a bad idea.
What I do know is that my wife received cutting-edge treatment for a life-threatening illness two years ago, and we still own our house, so I'm glad I live in Canada.
If you were in the US with a job, you'd be in the same position.
Whilst I guess that the people doing this will counter with "you give up your rights when you take it upon yourself to play with little kids bottoms", it kinda flies right in the face of concepts of rehabilitation, etc.
Most psychologists and psychotherapists agree that it is not possible to rehabilitate pedophiles.
I don't have a problem with lifelong parole or probation for them, but something like this will empower other unstable people to strike directly at them.
What happens if someone is raped murdered in the same neighborhood where one of the listed offenders lives? There will be people with torches and pitchforks lined up outside their houses and jobs. What if it is someone else who did it?
Tell the police who and where they are. Make them report to a PO for the rest of their lives. Don't paint a bullseye on their backs.
Ok, we will all concede that losing fewer lives is the goal. However, there is one good part about potential losing lives. It is this, the people of your country (assuming that it is a free country) are not going to tolerate unnecessary loss of life. This keeps most leaders from provoking wars unnecessarily. If the cause is to stop Hitler, people understand that we may take heavy losses, but in the end it is worth is.
If the cause is removing Milosovic from power, people are going to tolerate much fewer losses before they start to demand that we bring our boys home.
Removing this from the battlefield of the future does two things, one it will allow future world leaders to bully less technically advanced countries even more than they do now and two it will increase the amount of terrorism directed at civilians. If I can't kill your people on the battlefield because there are no "people" on the battlefield, I'll do what I have to do to take the war to your "people".
If you're going to rip off hardware from a large, powerful, incluential company like WF, make sure that you wipe the HD, toss the PCMCIA NICs and start from scratch.
You need to establish a trade route to subsidise the fuel both ways.
Not if the profit is high enough on initial trip.
Say have cigarettes and have CD-R. Then smuggle bongs and pot back into the US. The beauty part of that is, the bongs and pot can be sold together. That is synergy my friend. Only problem is your butt might end up being the butt in someone else's prison rape joke.
Greed is the problem with far too many schemes. Be happy with the low risk profit that you make. Why fsck yourself by trying to make "a little more"?
We already pay $0.25 per cd-r, "they" want to increase it to around $0.59. As an example, that would increase the take by the music industry of a 30 pack of cd-r's to $17.70, from $7.50, an increase of $10.20.
I could make a mint smuggling CDRs into Canada. Even at half of the cost of their legal Canadian counterparts, I'd easily triple my money on each trip.
This is better than Cocaine! I have an SUV with plenty of room for hauling generic spindles. Who's with me?
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I remember when I used to dabble in warez for the Mac, lots of sites would host patches so that people could take the version that they have and make it work like the warez version.
Would that be legal in this case?
If the K++ people didn't actually host the copyrighted material of the other company, could they be open to criminal or civil prosecution?
LK
I bought the exact same drive last saturday at Best Buy. I have had problems if I try to burn a DVD with more than 4.2GB of data on it. I upgraded my firmware and even tried other software. Have you had the same problem?
LK
Guns can kill people. That's worth a little restriction on freedom, that I don't have to worry about being shot in a courthouse. The worst a person with a camcorder is going to do is make a crappy copy of a movie.
In case you didn't know, it is not always a crime to kill another person. There are situations where it is perfectly legal. It is NEVER legal to make a tape of the movie showing in the theater(unless you happen to be the copyright holder).
LK
Outfit the trucks with GPS equipment that the driver can turn off when he's done working?
I mean, sure when the driver is off of the clock what he does is his own business. But when he is on the clock, getting paid the money of the taxpayers, it is not unreasonable to expect him to account for all of that time. Is he really working, or is he "visiting" with his girlfriend?
LK
What if my cellphone has a camera?
Then turn it off and keep it in your fucking pocket. I don't believe that this law is going to mandate pat downs and strip searches.
When I went to see Freddy Vs. Jason some asshole kept sending and receiving text messages. He kept right on doing it for about 20 minutes until I had enough and yelled at him like he was a child in front of a theater full of people.
Yes, I too have a cell phone. Yes, I too have a PDA. You know what I do when I am in a movie theater? I turn them the fuck off! Have a little consideration for everyone else.
LK
Come on now.
In the state of PA, where I live, you can get a license to carry a concealed firearm. It is against the law to take it into a courthouse. Even if you're just going in to pay a fine. Even though you may not have the intention of hurting anyone the law can be used to set a reasonable limit.
That is what this is. It is reasonable to prohibit people from taking camcorders into movie theaters.
This is not the MPAA using the DMCA as a way to force people to use "approved" players. I've seen cam jobs of movies that are still in theaters being circulated at the local flea market. How do you think they get there?
As for your example, if you can't afford a car why are you taking the train to another city to purchase cameras?
T1s have been historically overpriced, so it isn't really a fair comparison. What would T1s cost in a truly competitive market?
Not much cheaper, with a T1 you are paying for QUICK response times when you have an outage. It costs money to pay technicians to be on call 24/7/365.
Sure the price would go down some if there were more competition in the T1 market, but not much.
LK
Before I left my previous employer, I made sure that I got copies of EVERYONE'S email address in my department. Including the address that is forwarded to every employee in the company.
Anyone want to make me an offer?
people who don't F'ing vote.
Campaign finances, redistricting, gerrymandering and everything except outright fraud would be non issues if people would get off of their asses and go vote.
Sure, it's a complicated world and we all have other things to worry about, like feeding our families and paying our bills, but giving an hour or two twice per year isn't asking too much.
LK
Your implication that god is responsible for the creation of life on this planet offends my atheist point of view.
That's OK. God loves you anyway.
LK
My Mistake, it was redhat 4.2 that I bought the box set of.
I bought a boxed version of redHat 4.3 and I got 5.0 with Linux for Dummies, I have no paid money for a single distro of theirs since. I have no intention of ever giving another cent to RedHat.
I don't begrudge them revenue, after all they are a business with fiduciary obligations to their shareholders, but since I don't own a share of their stock, I have no loyalty to them.
I hearby dub you the king of anal penatration.
Your mother promised me that she'd never tell anyone how I gave it to her. Or were you listening at the door?
Brilliant. I hereby dub you the king of first posters.
Yes, pedophiles have their own group of low-life rapists (molestors), just like gays and heteros have their rapists as well.
Pedophiles who never violate any children have little to worry about from our legal system.
However, the vast majority are still good people who'd never act on their urges.
Those people tend to not have convictions to worry about.
This idea of ruining the lives of sex offenders by plastering their personal information all over the place is ridiculous.
I don't care if it ruins the life of someone who has ruined the lives of other people. Don't get me wrong, child molestors are the lowest form of life on this planet. Making a registry for just anyone to browse won't keep people safe.
I know it's already been said many times that murderers, and "regular" rapists, can live in obscurity, so why must sex offenders be singled out?
"Regular" rapists are sex offenders. I don't have a problem with keeping a list of them that the police can use to find suspects, or to monitor them to prevent crimes. Putting a list on the internet that Joe sixpack can browse when he's feeling like dishing out a little justice of his own is a bad idea.
LK
Chances are that the people who will cure AIDS, Cancer, Ebola, Parkinsons, Alzheimer's etc have had computers in their classrooms.
Excuse me, I've got sarcasm dripping from my chin...
Maybe you should ask Darl to warn you further in advance next time.
What I do know is that my wife received cutting-edge treatment for a life-threatening illness two years ago, and we still own our house, so I'm glad I live in Canada.
If you were in the US with a job, you'd be in the same position.
LK
Everybody is Peter North!
Mods, if you understand this joke you're just as twisted as me.
LK
Whilst I guess that the people doing this will counter with "you give up your rights when you take it upon yourself to play with little kids bottoms", it kinda flies right in the face of concepts of rehabilitation, etc.
Most psychologists and psychotherapists agree that it is not possible to rehabilitate pedophiles.
I don't have a problem with lifelong parole or probation for them, but something like this will empower other unstable people to strike directly at them.
What happens if someone is raped murdered in the same neighborhood where one of the listed offenders lives? There will be people with torches and pitchforks lined up outside their houses and jobs. What if it is someone else who did it?
Tell the police who and where they are. Make them report to a PO for the rest of their lives. Don't paint a bullseye on their backs.
LK
Ok, we will all concede that losing fewer lives is the goal. However, there is one good part about potential losing lives. It is this, the people of your country (assuming that it is a free country) are not going to tolerate unnecessary loss of life. This keeps most leaders from provoking wars unnecessarily. If the cause is to stop Hitler, people understand that we may take heavy losses, but in the end it is worth is.
If the cause is removing Milosovic from power, people are going to tolerate much fewer losses before they start to demand that we bring our boys home.
Removing this from the battlefield of the future does two things, one it will allow future world leaders to bully less technically advanced countries even more than they do now and two it will increase the amount of terrorism directed at civilians. If I can't kill your people on the battlefield because there are no "people" on the battlefield, I'll do what I have to do to take the war to your "people".
We should proceed with caution.
LK
If you're going to rip off hardware from a large, powerful, incluential company like WF, make sure that you wipe the HD, toss the PCMCIA NICs and start from scratch.
LK
You need to establish a trade route to subsidise the fuel both ways.
Not if the profit is high enough on initial trip.
Say have cigarettes and have CD-R. Then smuggle bongs and pot back into the US. The beauty part of that is, the bongs and pot can be sold together. That is synergy my friend. Only problem is your butt might end up being the butt in someone else's prison rape joke.
Greed is the problem with far too many schemes. Be happy with the low risk profit that you make. Why fsck yourself by trying to make "a little more"?
LK
We already pay $0.25 per cd-r, "they" want to increase it to around $0.59. As an example, that would increase the take by the music industry of a 30 pack of cd-r's to $17.70, from $7.50, an increase of $10.20.
I could make a mint smuggling CDRs into Canada. Even at half of the cost of their legal Canadian counterparts, I'd easily triple my money on each trip.
This is better than Cocaine! I have an SUV with plenty of room for hauling generic spindles. Who's with me?
LK
if you were paying royalty fees, wouldn't that indemnify you against copyright infringement claims?
LK