"Oh, by the way...use them and you will burn for eternity!?" Love it!
A comedian (and a doctor so all his jokes revolve around that) once said: If god had not wanted to masturbate, he would not have given us long enough arms.
And my personal favourite (when people, esp. for US Americans): If god had wanted us to run around nekkid, we would have been born that way. (pls. note the sarcasm)
Well that is griefing but in general, yes, that is EXACTLY how it should go.
I especially love the players who will come back an actually seek revenge.. you know because somehow the last 5 mins of your live is sent via sub-space transmission to your clone.
The only problem I saw with EvE was the near total lack of flexibility (trading sucked when I had played it, and mining was the best way to get credits) as well as the typical gang mindset often found in online games.
Though generally yes, EvE is a very nice example of a better gameplay.
TBH, I find the entire concept of PVP in MMOs totally BS.
It is like backyard basketball, either you play for fun or you play seriously. In the first, it is a friendly match between friends and the outcome is irrelevant. In the latter you will go up against people who do not know you, don't care about you and just want to show you who is best. And you might wind up hurt. uhm.. -might +probably will
Either or.
The problem is that people in MMO want friendly care-bare style fights. Let's beat the crap out of each other but still walk away as friends, each with their own stuff.
But you are correct that real PVP is not wanted because people would be pissed when they lose their stuff and/or XPs/levels.
Plus, death/defeat may not have ANY major penalties. Having to walk back to your body to collect your stuff is as horrible as it gets. WTF?
Then let's just cut the BS and stop calling them PRGs but CareBareWorld instead.
Italians/French/Spanish are healthy people? You really have not seen a lot of them have you?
Or by healthy do you mean smaller in height?
There are fat people all over the world, not restricted to race or country.
Though the people in the US do seem to have more people with weight problems. Though we should be careful, the US is a nation made out of... guess... yep, Italians, French and Spanish, to name a few.
Seriously, have you ever thought about comparing the distance between industry and civilian structure in ANY country? The are ALL near each other. Might come as a surprise, but industries are always close to towns because they need PEOPLE to operate and being far from the homes of the people is VERY counter productive. Back in the day, not everyone had a car and most would travel by bike, bus or tram. Not to mention it was typical for industries to provide housing and other infrastructure for their employees. And where better to place them then NEAR the plants.
Finally, towns grow and when something, like available jobs, are more abundant in one town, people move there. Look at towns around you, some have shrunk, some have grown. What used to be on the edge of town now is in the suburbs.
You make it sound like some evil plan when it is just really simple logic.
Do you know the content material of the German school system? You know, a school system that teaches *everything*.. sex education, science, history (and every year something about WW2 and the Nazis), languages, social studies, arts & crafts, sports... even religion (one of the few classes that the parents can choose, default = ethics).
You reference Adolf Hitlter... a person well known for his fanatical and fundamentalist mindset... not unlike the religious nuts.
Plus a person who wanted to change and control everything because it did not suite HIM. Just like private, religious and home schools.
Fact is, Hitler would have home schooled his kids.
You want all the religious nuts? Sure, take all of them.
Though I find it funny, this family is complaining about the government forcing stuff down their throats, yet you can bet your life that if they were in power, you'd be burning on a stick for witchcraft. Not to mention the old (+new) US governments funding for 'faith based projects' like abstinence only projects.
Plus, how much do you know about the school system in Germany to have the audacity to make such statements?
If you say 'Germany's final state exam' just shows your lack of knowledge because Germany has FOUR exams you can take. And the lowest is like really low (7th grade math).
Maybe Germany just thinks that people have strange ideas and that these might not be in the interest of the children and that all children should have solid education, (mostly) free of political, social or religious dogma.
People who think Hannah Montana is great might not be the best people to decide about the education of their children... or?
I'm still waiting for China to just ignore the US laws and trade with whomever they want.
I'd like to see the US ban imports from China then, which they will not do any just prove they are bullies.
Though it will be just like everything else the US says and does: Both China AND Cuba are 'evil communists' but one is sanctioned, the other is a major trading partner.
Partially it does. Think about one place where you would have maximum security (alas, a hint!) but little civil liberties.
I would allow both 'Jail' and 'High Security Bank Vault' as correct answers. Note: in a jail you are supposed to be safe, that this is not the case shows that in order to make a jail more secure, you'd have to put EVERYONE into isolation. And even then a jail is still insecure! You'd have to be hooked up to medical scanners and GPS devices.. just in case.. for your own safety.
Think about what your country would look like if the populace wanted total security: * being monitored 24/7 by cams, GPS, medical scanners etc * everyone lives in a building block, each in their own room, guards everywhere * marriages are not allowed, as statistics have shown that family violence.... * your 'healthy' meals are provided to you by the central cookery and designed based on parameters matching your physical and mental needs * 24/7 curfew and you can only go outside at certain times, only to certain places and only under the supervision of guards. * people are no longer allowed to interact, in order to avoid violence as well as transfer of virii and bacteria * every possible cell in your body has been scanned, finger prints, feet prints, hair/nail/skin samples, just in case something happens * you must admit yourself to a weekly 'stability inspection' to see if you have any mental issues that might indicate a problem.. everything for YOUR security and health... yep, sounds wonderful
That is a little biased. The Chinese cannot do this? Are they missing some additive in their water or is their lack of massive cheeseburger & coffee consumption the reason?
China used our greed and blindness to basically just cheat their way ahead. Instead of reinventing everything, they copied it.
Same thing everyone else has done since the dawn of time. Everything is based off of the work of someone else.
Another example would be India who went from developing country to one of the IT leaders in the world (though fundamentally still a developing country). Not because they reinvented IT, but because they took what was currently available and learned from that.
Oh yeah, good comparison, if you just ignore everything surrounding this. Cuba is embargoed by the US and the US threatens to not allow imports from ANYONE who trades with Cuba, thus blocking every country in the world. The other? Open to trade.
I thought the same thing. Even more crass is that the HRW complains that Cuba is supposedly just doing this to harm talks, but do not question why a member of the 'United States Agency for International Development' would do something KNOWING it would cause trouble.
Remember, this is a member of a US government agency! Not some random American tourist.
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From what I hear the setups of such rooms often play out like penis-length comparisons.
If someone has 100 modules, the next one wants 150 and so on.
And this does not only go for the Russians.
"Oh, by the way...use them and you will burn for eternity!?"
Love it!
A comedian (and a doctor so all his jokes revolve around that) once said:
If god had not wanted to masturbate, he would not have given us long enough arms.
And my personal favourite (when people, esp. for US Americans):
If god had wanted us to run around nekkid, we would have been born that way. (pls. note the sarcasm)
Ah, yeah, thanks. Damn spell checking for my dyslexia does not work when the misspelled word actually exists. :D
Well that is griefing but in general, yes, that is EXACTLY how it should go.
I especially love the players who will come back an actually seek revenge .. you know because somehow the last 5 mins of your live is sent via sub-space transmission to your clone.
For todays 'RPG'-Gamers, actually (pseudo-)dieing is Hardcore enough. Their heads would explode if you did anything worse to them.
Bad enough they have to actually WALK 1 min back to their corpse and regain ALL their stuff...
Why are you complaining about an 'RPG' game not being a Wingcommander style game?
You seem to be the kind that do not want to do anything, but want all the nice bling.
The only problem I saw with EvE was the near total lack of flexibility (trading sucked when I had played it, and mining was the best way to get credits) as well as the typical gang mindset often found in online games.
Though generally yes, EvE is a very nice example of a better gameplay.
TBH, I find the entire concept of PVP in MMOs totally BS.
It is like backyard basketball, either you play for fun or you play seriously. .. -might +probably will
In the first, it is a friendly match between friends and the outcome is irrelevant.
In the latter you will go up against people who do not know you, don't care about you and just want to show you who is best. And you might wind up hurt.
uhm
Either or.
The problem is that people in MMO want friendly care-bare style fights.
Let's beat the crap out of each other but still walk away as friends, each with their own stuff.
But you are correct that real PVP is not wanted because people would be pissed when they lose their stuff and/or XPs/levels.
Plus, death/defeat may not have ANY major penalties. Having to walk back to your body to collect your stuff is as horrible as it gets.
WTF?
Then let's just cut the BS and stop calling them PRGs but CareBareWorld instead.
(/me wishes he had mod points)
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Italians/French/Spanish are healthy people?
You really have not seen a lot of them have you?
Or by healthy do you mean smaller in height?
There are fat people all over the world, not restricted to race or country.
Though the people in the US do seem to have more people with weight problems. Though we should be careful, the US is a nation made out of... guess... yep, Italians, French and Spanish, to name a few.
You are not only ignorant, but racist as well.
Sonic screwdriver FTW!
Seriously, have you ever thought about comparing the distance between industry and civilian structure in ANY country?
The are ALL near each other.
Might come as a surprise, but industries are always close to towns because they need PEOPLE to operate and being far from the homes of the people is VERY counter productive.
Back in the day, not everyone had a car and most would travel by bike, bus or tram.
Not to mention it was typical for industries to provide housing and other infrastructure for their employees. And where better to place them then NEAR the plants.
Finally, towns grow and when something, like available jobs, are more abundant in one town, people move there.
Look at towns around you, some have shrunk, some have grown. What used to be on the edge of town now is in the suburbs.
You make it sound like some evil plan when it is just really simple logic.
Do you know the content material of the German school system? ... even religion (one of the few classes that the parents can choose, default = ethics).
You know, a school system that teaches *everything*.. sex education, science, history (and every year something about WW2 and the Nazis), languages, social studies, arts & crafts, sports
You reference Adolf Hitlter... a person well known for his fanatical and fundamentalist mindset... not unlike the religious nuts.
Plus a person who wanted to change and control everything because it did not suite HIM.
Just like private, religious and home schools.
Fact is, Hitler would have home schooled his kids.
This is flamebait and nothing more.
You want all the religious nuts? Sure, take all of them.
Though I find it funny, this family is complaining about the government forcing stuff down their throats, yet you can bet your life that if they were in power, you'd be burning on a stick for witchcraft.
Not to mention the old (+new) US governments funding for 'faith based projects' like abstinence only projects.
Where do you have this info from?
Plus, how much do you know about the school system in Germany to have the audacity to make such statements?
If you say 'Germany's final state exam' just shows your lack of knowledge because Germany has FOUR exams you can take.
And the lowest is like really low (7th grade math).
Maybe Germany just thinks that people have strange ideas and that these might not be in the interest of the children and that all children should have solid education, (mostly) free of political, social or religious dogma.
People who think Hannah Montana is great might not be the best people to decide about the education of their children... or?
That would mean everyone using a Windows is a potential terrist?
Haha, now Windoze users can have two people sticking a finger up their rears.
I'm still waiting for China to just ignore the US laws and trade with whomever they want.
I'd like to see the US ban imports from China then, which they will not do any just prove they are bullies.
Though it will be just like everything else the US says and does:
Both China AND Cuba are 'evil communists' but one is sanctioned, the other is a major trading partner.
Typical US
Partially it does.
Think about one place where you would have maximum security (alas, a hint!) but little civil liberties.
I would allow both 'Jail' and 'High Security Bank Vault' as correct answers. .. just in case .. for your own safety.
Note: in a jail you are supposed to be safe, that this is not the case shows that in order to make a jail more secure, you'd have to put EVERYONE into isolation.
And even then a jail is still insecure! You'd have to be hooked up to medical scanners and GPS devices
Think about what your country would look like if the populace wanted total security: .... .. everything for YOUR security and health ... yep, sounds wonderful
* being monitored 24/7 by cams, GPS, medical scanners etc
* everyone lives in a building block, each in their own room, guards everywhere
* marriages are not allowed, as statistics have shown that family violence
* your 'healthy' meals are provided to you by the central cookery and designed based on parameters matching your physical and mental needs
* 24/7 curfew and you can only go outside at certain times, only to certain places and only under the supervision of guards.
* people are no longer allowed to interact, in order to avoid violence as well as transfer of virii and bacteria
* every possible cell in your body has been scanned, finger prints, feet prints, hair/nail/skin samples, just in case something happens
* you must admit yourself to a weekly 'stability inspection' to see if you have any mental issues that might indicate a problem
BTW: IMHO It would make a GREAT Dr Who episode
That is a little biased. The Chinese cannot do this? Are they missing some additive in their water or is their lack of massive cheeseburger & coffee consumption the reason?
China used our greed and blindness to basically just cheat their way ahead. Instead of reinventing everything, they copied it.
Same thing everyone else has done since the dawn of time.
Everything is based off of the work of someone else.
Another example would be India who went from developing country to one of the IT leaders in the world (though fundamentally still a developing country). Not because they reinvented IT, but because they took what was currently available and learned from that.
Taiwan? The same country that China wants to reintroduce into the PRC and thus are more western friendly?
Isn't it strange that such attacks often go over exactly THAT group of people you have a conflict with?
Or maybe they just originated in Taiwan.
Oh yeah, good comparison, if you just ignore everything surrounding this.
Cuba is embargoed by the US and the US threatens to not allow imports from ANYONE who trades with Cuba, thus blocking every country in the world.
The other? Open to trade.
Yeah, you can REALLY compare the two. /me facepalm
I thought the same thing.
Even more crass is that the HRW complains that Cuba is supposedly just doing this to harm talks, but do not question why a member of the 'United States Agency for International Development' would do something KNOWING it would cause trouble.
Remember, this is a member of a US government agency! Not some random American tourist.
Yeah, they should have called it 'the Patriot Act'.
If the cops think everyone is a criminal, who are they 'serving and protecting'?
NO!
'cops exist because good and bad people exist'
Good and bad are not job descriptions for cops. They only exist in your Hollywood induced illusions.