You know, the [insert OS team here] guys just don't get it.
There, fixed that for you.
You were too specific, what you said actually applies to many software development outfits. (Queue next FTFY with 'Many'->'ALL' in 3..2.) We're blessed with so much excellent, stable elegant, technology at a line-by-line code level, that potential somehow seems to be mangled by the time it's put together as a package such that it barely works. Linux Desktop: where whole ends up being less than the sum of the parts.
I don't know whether it's a pathological deficiency of right-brain thinking that we've been needing for a long time, or simply that good designers are not good coders, coders are not good designers and the exception to this rule is rare - added that neither group gets along and the occasional dude who can do both is shunned and stoned to death by both groups.
SMS certainly is unreliable. One has to ask, just is it that 160 bytes gets delayed for any noticable length oftime at all on a 21st century comunications network, and we tolerate paying actual money to send these?
Definate killer application: Cloud-like sharing services but you retain total control of your data . It's also stunningly easy. It is by far the fastest set up of a webserver I've seen. You fire up opera, log in with a opera account, choose folders for sharing, start the server or other services. You then send your friends http://username.computername.operaunite.com/
It even seems to be a pretty good performing web server, opera are also know for their good attitude towards security. I think it's killer.
All the distros were very close in performance with the exception of one or two benchmarks. 10% is not a perceptable difference. Wake me up when Chrome fever is over and something interesting is posted about it.
Depressed people are usually very good at hiding it. I have a severly depressed friend who is medicated to all hell but yet manages to come have a good night out on the town, including laughter.
The insurance company shouldn't actually have a case, depression does not automaticly make one incapable of smiling for a camera, and it doesn't then follow smiling = not depressed.
Using a mechanical air pump driven by the wind makes massive sense to me, it is patently obvious. This method alone makes air power a win.
How we generate energy now for air cars now makes no sense, is patently stupid. Fossil fuel -> heat energy -> mechanical energy -> electricity over a lossy inefficient grid -> pumping compressed air -> filling up your car.
... it's part of their paycheck to not be impressed with anything let alone admit it to the media.
Do they use a press release response form ticking the checkboxes for all the usual lines?
Oh come on, Chrome is no threat to desktops, because people will still need their rich apps on high-spec hardware, therefore desktops will be still around as a do-everything machine. Partly though, because laptops netbooks and smartphones haven't killed desktops yet. I fear though, Microsoft has for a long time been making Windows a one size fits all requirements OS, the indentical OS gets put on netbooks to top end workstations. Chrome OS will appeal people who just want web and social networking and a bit of mucking around with their digital photos, but previously had to fork out for more than they needed in a laptop and desktop.
Having played around with the virtual machine images circulating, I don't think it's a threat to anything, but it looks pretty solid for a beta OS, but finally the ideal OS for the focused web tablet we've all been wanting for a long time. I also imagine the code could be rolled into existing linux distributions. It could coexist alongside other desktop environments ie KDE/Gnome, although I don't think Chrubuntu would be a very catch name.
Oh and it's Linux, open source, if it is lacking any features we will fix it okay?
At some point we have to learn to stop hating and realise we already are web app users, especially the/.ers here. As much as I loathe web apps, I am a increasingly heavy user of them. Like many of us I've made the switch to gmail, partly because it integrates tightly with my android phone, and partly because it'll do 95% of what outlook et al can do, the other 5% of that being crash, crash my pc outright and corrupt my data.
Chrome is going primarily benefit subset of users who were previously forced to buy a laptop or desktop for what they want to do, or worse, struggle to do it on their pokey smartphone screen.
I really don't see chrome OS and it's cloud being any signifcant threat to how computing is done right now, just adding a new flavour. I really do not think the handwringing over restricted capabilities is valid. If you want to use rich applications on high powered hardware you'd just get a desktop in the first place, if you want portable computing horsepower you get a lappy. If you don't need anything extraneous you'll go smaller.
Good information, a bit ranty, but good. I wish I had a mod point for ya. But nothing much new, blocking a metric asston of IP addresses and even ranges is a well used security method.
It also makes for a very fast internet experience, since adservers etc are just not visible.
Seriously take of your tin foil hats. What makes anyone thing NSA needs any cooperation from any vendor? If any lone black hat can pwn thousands and millions of machines from his bedroom, it stands to reason a well resourced organisation with even half-assed methodological inclination can do things that boggle our script kiddie minds. They have very few barriers to whatever they want to do, they don't need Microsofts help.
I'll leave you with that while I go to make my 30-char SSH password a little longer.
Unlike traditional operating systems, Chrome OS doesn't trust the applications you run. Each app is contained within a security sandbox making it harder for malware and viruses to infect your computer. Furthermore, Chrome OS barely trusts itself. Every time you restart your computer the operating system verifies the integrity of its code.
The developers barely trust themselves to write secure code so they decided code will not be writen at all. Not trusting themselves with this even they have scrambled their passwords and erased their door access cards. Security has been further enhanced by all staffers being locked up in the basement behind a externally locked door. 6 weeks later the only issue is now is the smell.
Hard disks banned? I can't decide if this is a bad thing, it could be interesting model of computing outside the cloud. For example, an offline desktop experience could be provided by a local or lan server that uses web protocols. I'm sure the community will do some really intesting things with this freshly opened source.
that Ubuntu comes with serious productivity software, equivalents of which on Windows can cost hundreds or thousands of dollars
I'm willing to wager that the majority of that software is also available for free on Windows. GIMP is a prime example.
What really matters is that people are using a set of open source software for their productivity and passtimes, then it becomes kind of irrelevant what platform they are running on. In most cases people don't really care, as an OS is what you use to switch windows and they'd rather not see it.
Could the characteristic sizzle of lossy mp3 encoding be pleasurable to the ears in the same way vinyl has it's distinct pleasing sound?
Indeed the warmth and softer warmer noise background of a record is that 'vinyl sound' that which fans of the analog format love. It's a result of the limitations of certain frequencies and wave forms a needle in groove can't reproduce too well as well as some of the mastering techniques. MP3s have a squelch, sizzle and smear resulting from compression that should sound much worse than the actual level of sound detail loss indicates, could it be desirable even? Especially with certain instruments? Indeed the algorithm has been designed to fool the human ear, masking the loss, did they accidentally make it sound good?
It seems that people are actually prefering MP3s, partly because thats what they are used to hearing of course, but I think this is because there is a ceratain character to the sound that people may actually like. By my own preferences I can hear the difference between a FLAC and a 160kbps MP3 recording, but I don't hate the loss as much as I should.
Exascale computing may seem mind bogglingly implausible at first glance, but one forgets that logic switch density goes up with the square of the process size reduction. A 1000-fold increase in computing is merely a 10x reduction in process size.
Intel seems confident silicon can approach this, although it may be the realm of graphene and nanotubes.
1997/8 The first teraflops class supercomputers. We now have 32-45nm silicon.
2008/9: First petaflops class supercomputers. Today, teraflops computing is available in your desktop. A single $100 800 core GPU is theoretically a match for the 1997 #1 supercomputer.
2018/19: A single $100 ASIC should be capable of a petaflop. 3-4nm would be required to keep pace. Enter the era of exascale computing.
Oddly Moore's law detractors have been so consitently wrong, the burden of proof is now on the critic.
I always said you'd have to pay me to use Bing. How about bribing 1 million heavy users with $1000 to switch and evangalize about it? That's one epic astroturf right there.
Nice to know our richest people fail at finding uses for their spare cash that actually benefit the human civilization.
No good end usually implies there was alot of fun to be had along the way.
I have found hitting the caffiene while drinking gets me my friends extra plastered, and all things being equal to have a crazier night out than without. Cleary the fun police need to step in.
Or people actually check facts rather than take FUD literally. Anyone could actually try Windows 7 and realise the task bar is still very much the Windows paradigm, like the rest of it.
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You know, the [insert OS team here] guys just don't get it.
There, fixed that for you.
You were too specific, what you said actually applies to many software development outfits. (Queue next FTFY with 'Many'->'ALL' in 3..2.) We're blessed with so much excellent, stable elegant, technology at a line-by-line code level, that potential somehow seems to be mangled by the time it's put together as a package such that it barely works. Linux Desktop: where whole ends up being less than the sum of the parts.
I don't know whether it's a pathological deficiency of right-brain thinking that we've been needing for a long time, or simply that good designers are not good coders, coders are not good designers and the exception to this rule is rare - added that neither group gets along and the occasional dude who can do both is shunned and stoned to death by both groups.
SMS certainly is unreliable. One has to ask, just is it that 160 bytes gets delayed for any noticable length oftime at all on a 21st century comunications network, and we tolerate paying actual money to send these?
I can't afford a long reply you insensitive cloud!
Definate killer application: Cloud-like sharing services but you retain total control of your data . It's also stunningly easy. It is by far the fastest set up of a webserver I've seen. You fire up opera, log in with a opera account, choose folders for sharing, start the server or other services. You then send your friends http://username.computername.operaunite.com/
It even seems to be a pretty good performing web server, opera are also know for their good attitude towards security. I think it's killer.
Can someone please explain a pizza analogy in a car analogy??
All the distros were very close in performance with the exception of one or two benchmarks. 10% is not a perceptable difference. Wake me up when Chrome fever is over and something interesting is posted about it.
Depressed people are usually very good at hiding it. I have a severly depressed friend who is medicated to all hell but yet manages to come have a good night out on the town, including laughter.
The insurance company shouldn't actually have a case, depression does not automaticly make one incapable of smiling for a camera, and it doesn't then follow smiling = not depressed.
.. the wind does, that is.
Using a mechanical air pump driven by the wind makes massive sense to me, it is patently obvious. This method alone makes air power a win.
How we generate energy now for air cars now makes no sense, is patently stupid. Fossil fuel -> heat energy -> mechanical energy -> electricity over a lossy inefficient grid -> pumping compressed air -> filling up your car.
... it's part of their paycheck to not be impressed with anything let alone admit it to the media.
Do they use a press release response form ticking the checkboxes for all the usual lines?
Oh come on, Chrome is no threat to desktops, because people will still need their rich apps on high-spec hardware, therefore desktops will be still around as a do-everything machine. Partly though, because laptops netbooks and smartphones haven't killed desktops yet. I fear though, Microsoft has for a long time been making Windows a one size fits all requirements OS, the indentical OS gets put on netbooks to top end workstations. Chrome OS will appeal people who just want web and social networking and a bit of mucking around with their digital photos, but previously had to fork out for more than they needed in a laptop and desktop.
Having played around with the virtual machine images circulating, I don't think it's a threat to anything, but it looks pretty solid for a beta OS, but finally the ideal OS for the focused web tablet we've all been wanting for a long time. I also imagine the code could be rolled into existing linux distributions. It could coexist alongside other desktop environments ie KDE/Gnome, although I don't think Chrubuntu would be a very catch name.
Oh and it's Linux, open source, if it is lacking any features we will fix it okay?
Cyber attacks on US as a news topic jumped the shark in 2009
At some point we have to learn to stop hating and realise we already are web app users, especially the /.ers here. As much as I loathe web apps, I am a increasingly heavy user of them. Like many of us I've made the switch to gmail, partly because it integrates tightly with my android phone, and partly because it'll do 95% of what outlook et al can do, the other 5% of that being crash, crash my pc outright and corrupt my data.
Chrome is going primarily benefit subset of users who were previously forced to buy a laptop or desktop for what they want to do, or worse, struggle to do it on their pokey smartphone screen.
I really don't see chrome OS and it's cloud being any signifcant threat to how computing is done right now, just adding a new flavour. I really do not think the handwringing over restricted capabilities is valid. If you want to use rich applications on high powered hardware you'd just get a desktop in the first place, if you want portable computing horsepower you get a lappy. If you don't need anything extraneous you'll go smaller.
Good information, a bit ranty, but good. I wish I had a mod point for ya. But nothing much new, blocking a metric asston of IP addresses and even ranges is a well used security method.
It also makes for a very fast internet experience, since adservers etc are just not visible.
Seriously take of your tin foil hats. What makes anyone thing NSA needs any cooperation from any vendor? If any lone black hat can pwn thousands and millions of machines from his bedroom, it stands to reason a well resourced organisation with even half-assed methodological inclination can do things that boggle our script kiddie minds. They have very few barriers to whatever they want to do, they don't need Microsofts help.
I'll leave you with that while I go to make my 30-char SSH password a little longer.
>>>Who needs a back door when the front door is wide open?
"That's what she said!"
This is /. minimal sucess and experience with either.
Unlike traditional operating systems, Chrome OS doesn't trust the applications you run. Each app is contained within a security sandbox making it harder for malware and viruses to infect your computer. Furthermore, Chrome OS barely trusts itself. Every time you restart your computer the operating system verifies the integrity of its code.
The developers barely trust themselves to write secure code so they decided code will not be writen at all. Not trusting themselves with this even they have scrambled their passwords and erased their door access cards. Security has been further enhanced by all staffers being locked up in the basement behind a externally locked door. 6 weeks later the only issue is now is the smell.
consumers won't be able to download the operating system for long
TFTFY
Hard disks banned? I can't decide if this is a bad thing, it could be interesting model of computing outside the cloud. For example, an offline desktop experience could be provided by a local or lan server that uses web protocols. I'm sure the community will do some really intesting things with this freshly opened source.
I'm willing to wager that the majority of that software is also available for free on Windows. GIMP is a prime example.
What really matters is that people are using a set of open source software for their productivity and passtimes, then it becomes kind of irrelevant what platform they are running on. In most cases people don't really care, as an OS is what you use to switch windows and they'd rather not see it.
Could the characteristic sizzle of lossy mp3 encoding be pleasurable to the ears in the same way vinyl has it's distinct pleasing sound?
Indeed the warmth and softer warmer noise background of a record is that 'vinyl sound' that which fans of the analog format love. It's a result of the limitations of certain frequencies and wave forms a needle in groove can't reproduce too well as well as some of the mastering techniques. MP3s have a squelch, sizzle and smear resulting from compression that should sound much worse than the actual level of sound detail loss indicates, could it be desirable even? Especially with certain instruments? Indeed the algorithm has been designed to fool the human ear, masking the loss, did they accidentally make it sound good?
It seems that people are actually prefering MP3s, partly because thats what they are used to hearing of course, but I think this is because there is a ceratain character to the sound that people may actually like. By my own preferences I can hear the difference between a FLAC and a 160kbps MP3 recording, but I don't hate the loss as much as I should.
Exascale computing may seem mind bogglingly implausible at first glance, but one forgets that logic switch density goes up with the square of the process size reduction. A 1000-fold increase in computing is merely a 10x reduction in process size. Intel seems confident silicon can approach this, although it may be the realm of graphene and nanotubes.
1997/8 The first teraflops class supercomputers. We now have 32-45nm silicon.
2008/9: First petaflops class supercomputers. Today, teraflops computing is available in your desktop. A single $100 800 core GPU is theoretically a match for the 1997 #1 supercomputer.
2018/19: A single $100 ASIC should be capable of a petaflop. 3-4nm would be required to keep pace. Enter the era of exascale computing.
Oddly Moore's law detractors have been so consitently wrong, the burden of proof is now on the critic.
I always said you'd have to pay me to use Bing. How about bribing 1 million heavy users with $1000 to switch and evangalize about it? That's one epic astroturf right there.
Nice to know our richest people fail at finding uses for their spare cash that actually benefit the human civilization.
From TFA: “The analogy I like to use is that it’s like stepping on the gas pedal and the brake pedal of a car at the same time,"
Crap. I was going to post a car analogy, but I am now redundant.
No good end usually implies there was alot of fun to be had along the way.
I have found hitting the caffiene while drinking gets me my friends extra plastered, and all things being equal to have a crazier night out than without. Cleary the fun police need to step in.
Or people actually check facts rather than take FUD literally. Anyone could actually try Windows 7 and realise the task bar is still very much the Windows paradigm, like the rest of it.
All security is through obscurity to some extent. Passwords, encryption etc.