And you appear to not have studied much religion - at least Genesis. The source material for much of Genesis goes back much further than the Bible and the Torah. Look up the Epic of Gilgamesh for instance.
Regardless - it is not so much of real interest that things were created in a certain order. Certainly our view of the Earth has radically changed in 2,000 years and will continue to change I am sure, as an example.
Classical studies often find that a timeline and factual accounts are far from reality - but are meant to convey the outcome, meaning, or possibly the causation (tropological study). The particular order and logic is mostly allegorical evidence and relation to the reader. As an aside - this is the point at which scientist balk much so.
For a good parallelized problem, 8 cores will beat the snot out of the equivilent single core utilizing the same wattage, that's why.
It's a simple matter of pipelining and branch prediction. On a single core, you end up throwing a lot of transistors at a problem that is more efficiently solved with multi-core.
As long as a single core can provide the necessary performance for a user interface the abundance of extra cores will parallelize most simple tasks - and for applications that can take advantage of multi-core will provide advantages over monolithic CPU architectures.
In fact, I see the future as a reversal of the current architectures - simpler cores (such as the older Alpha and current ARM) that perform well enough, but in large parallel scales much higher in terms of cores / transistor ratio than now. Somewhat like the CELL architecture - but not as specialized.
Listen, some people don't try to intellectualize their messages. It's beyond the point and while facts may be required for a police report they arn't necessary disqualifiers for relating a story.
For instance, a good bit of human history is replete with stories that have missing or incomplete facts. It wasn't at all important to early mankind as the real meaning was the story.
That's somewhat an issue.. today a dual-core AMD 64 bit chip at 65 nm will only consume 35 watts. Scaled up to 8 cores would use 140 watts. That's slightly more than what an Intel Prescott chip is using TODAY.
Lets list some of those "kooks" * Hurricane expert William Gray of Colorado State University believes the Earth will start to cool within 10 years. * Neil Frank, former director of the National Hurricane Center, told the Washington Post that global warming is "a hoax." * Climate scientist Robert Lindzen of MIT believes that clouds and water vapor will counteract greenhouse-gas emissions.
Hey, if the "youth" voted, * The drinking age would be 18 again. * Publicly owned Colleges and Universities would be Free * Insurance rates would be equitable * etc.. etc..
Fact is that they DON'T get involved in politics in large numbers because Public Schools, by and large, arn't preparing kids to be adults - they're makeing "human resources."
Ohh, and Mom and Dad are too busy working or playing with their riches to notice that big bright place outside the front door.
That makes little sense to me as SiGe isn't exactly NEW tech. I think Cray did this back in the 80's for vector processors and before that TI or Bell Labs was making some transistors based on simular.
And there's a reson for that. Java is trading memory management for speed. It utilizes large regions of memory and the only penalty is when you run out and the GC kicks in.
You can do the same thing using the Boehm GC.. I've done it with C/C++ develpment and I've never looked back. Unless I've got some major speed necesseties it makes no sense to spend all your development time managing pointers and class teardowns.
I don't think there are many applications out there that really "need" to manage their own memory . Especially with the memory bandwidth we've got today - it's practically free to memcpy on an Opteron.
Great for developers - who often have plenty of RAM. Stinks for low end users, who most often have the minimum amount to run 1 application.
Very true and I agree 100% with you. I'm no fan of a tiered internet as it will kill small business and innovation - especially in multimedia. It's akin to a protection racket and drives up competitive costs - making it more likely that the carriers will be able to transition from POTS to VOIP without a market fight.
It stands to reason that they and their "partners" want to get sweet-heart status so that they can own the new telephone and tv business.
Sorry - but here's the way it works. Your ISP says "We're going to a two-tier network and we're going to give you the option to get a better tier."
We say "go eat dirt" (or something analagous) and find another ISP. Been there, done that.
But in the end - this isn't really a war for that at all. This is about Telephone and TV. This is about creating an unfair advantage to those allied with the network carriers .
They're ready to take on the entire world in order to win the VOIP and IPTV fight.
Eight years ago I attended a web conference (at the Infomart in Dallas) about a company that developed a "dual interface" IDE for Java. It let you deploy to traditional GUI clients and web clients. Of course, everybody hated Swing (Or was it AWT at the time.. not sure) but the jist of this is...
They did generate Javascript code from your Java code.
Not 100% directly - but it was there for special cases.
Anyway, it's a lame technology anyway - it seems more akin to a "meta" language and won't buy most people productivity gains because they are a "one off" project anyway that doesn't get a lot of iterative development.
The primary reason to Open Source java is so that they can get their Vm installed on every unix box out there. They get a huge "bump" when Fedora, RedHat, Suse, Debian, you name it has Java running. Microsoft may even jump in too, if there's incentive.
And then the vendors, developers, and distributions WILL code using Java - make no mistake.
The great HAZARD for Sun right now is that Mono (aka Novell) will make that jump first and become viable enough to essentially shut out Java.
Which, I personally would not oppose. I'm no Java fan, and I'm REALLY NOT a MS fan.. but C# is cleaner and nicer to learn overall - especially if you've ever done JNI.. ack bleah. JNI is the bane of the universe.
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Ohh, come now.. haven't you ever heard of iSue?
*smirk*
And you appear to not have studied much religion - at least Genesis. The source material for much of Genesis goes back much further than the Bible and the Torah. Look up the Epic of Gilgamesh for instance.
Regardless - it is not so much of real interest that things were created in a certain order. Certainly our view of the Earth has radically changed in 2,000 years and will continue to change I am sure, as an example.
Classical studies often find that a timeline and factual accounts are far from reality - but are meant to convey the outcome, meaning, or possibly the causation (tropological study). The particular order and logic is mostly allegorical evidence and relation to the reader. As an aside - this is the point at which scientist balk much so.
For a good parallelized problem, 8 cores will beat the snot out of the equivilent single core utilizing the same wattage, that's why.
It's a simple matter of pipelining and branch prediction. On a single core, you end up throwing a lot of transistors at a problem that is more efficiently solved with multi-core.
As long as a single core can provide the necessary performance for a user interface the abundance of extra cores will parallelize most simple tasks - and for applications that can take advantage of multi-core will provide advantages over monolithic CPU architectures.
In fact, I see the future as a reversal of the current architectures - simpler cores (such as the older Alpha and current ARM) that perform well enough, but in large parallel scales much higher in terms of cores / transistor ratio than now. Somewhat like the CELL architecture - but not as specialized.
First google hit for Dual core 35 watts is:
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http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=3
And to anonymous - I said a DUAL CORE will run at 35 watts. 2x4=8. Go back to 3rd grade.
I feed the troll...
Listen, some people don't try to intellectualize their messages. It's beyond the point and while facts may be required for a police report they arn't necessary disqualifiers for relating a story.
For instance, a good bit of human history is replete with stories that have missing or incomplete facts. It wasn't at all important to early mankind as the real meaning was the story.
That's somewhat an issue.. today a dual-core AMD 64 bit chip at 65 nm will only consume 35 watts. Scaled up to 8 cores would use 140 watts. That's slightly more than what an Intel Prescott chip is using TODAY.
I'm all for that. What's the point of drivers anyway? IMHO, they should be simple I/O devices that know how to drive the hardware.
Java is Dead! Long live Java! God bless us all, and pass the Ammo!
Look for mmsclient, it should be able to download this stuff to your drive.
There's a newer version with a new name, but I've found mmsclient works well enuff!
I have to put this in terms the average slashdotter will understand...
1. Smoke, Drink
2. Go psychotic and Paint
3. Die
4. Profit!!!
postscript: I've discovered that the "???" in most cases is "die"
Lets list some of those "kooks"
* Hurricane expert William Gray of Colorado State University believes the Earth will start to cool within 10 years.
* Neil Frank, former director of the National Hurricane Center, told the Washington Post that global warming is "a hoax."
* Climate scientist Robert Lindzen of MIT believes that clouds and water vapor will counteract greenhouse-gas emissions.
Yep, bunch a LOONIES.
You don't get it... do you? If a voting population wants something, and will vote- then it WILL happen.
Hey, if the "youth" voted,
* The drinking age would be 18 again.
* Publicly owned Colleges and Universities would be Free
* Insurance rates would be equitable
* etc.. etc..
Fact is that they DON'T get involved in politics in large numbers because Public Schools, by and large, arn't preparing kids to be adults - they're makeing "human resources."
Ohh, and Mom and Dad are too busy working or playing with their riches to notice that big bright place outside the front door.
That makes little sense to me as SiGe isn't exactly NEW tech. I think Cray did this back in the 80's for vector processors and before that TI or Bell Labs was making some transistors based on simular.
This is just a pre-pre product anouncement AFAIK.
You may be surprised - but there's a TON of highly educated people right there on the gorge.
It reminds me of New Mexico - lots of people from apple growers to astophysicists.
And there's a reson for that. Java is trading memory management for speed. It utilizes large regions of memory and the only penalty is when you run out and the GC kicks in.
You can do the same thing using the Boehm GC.. I've done it with C/C++ develpment and I've never looked back. Unless I've got some major speed necesseties it makes no sense to spend all your development time managing pointers and class teardowns.
I don't think there are many applications out there that really "need" to manage their own memory . Especially with the memory bandwidth we've got today - it's practically free to memcpy on an Opteron.
Great for developers - who often have plenty of RAM. Stinks for low end users, who most often have the minimum amount to run 1 application.
Hey, we learned it from Kanada, eh?
It's much funnier to say "In Soviet Canada!"
Blah ha ha hahahah... I'm such an American, eh?
Everyone knows that Expresso is a Portuguise newspaper!
Very true and I agree 100% with you. I'm no fan of a tiered internet as it will kill small business and innovation - especially in multimedia. It's akin to a protection racket and drives up competitive costs - making it more likely that the carriers will be able to transition from POTS to VOIP without a market fight.
It stands to reason that they and their "partners" want to get sweet-heart status so that they can own the new telephone and tv business.
Pan
What happens then is that the "rest of the world" creates their own, free akamai clone and essentially "works around the problem."
Technically, my own POV is that it would be impossible to manage a real tiered internet. The memory required on the routers would be a death-blow.
My point is that this isn't about little guys (or even big companies like the ones I've worked at).
This is about telephone and TV. This is about killing the phoenix and wearing the feathers.
Pan
Big sites would just "pay up" huh?
Sorry - but here's the way it works. Your ISP says "We're going to a two-tier network and we're going to give you the option to get a better tier."
We say "go eat dirt" (or something analagous) and find another ISP. Been there, done that.
But in the end - this isn't really a war for that at all. This is about Telephone and TV. This is about creating an unfair advantage to those allied with the network carriers .
They're ready to take on the entire world in order to win the VOIP and IPTV fight.
Eight years ago I attended a web conference (at the Infomart in Dallas) about a company that developed a "dual interface" IDE for Java. It let you deploy to traditional GUI clients and web clients. Of course, everybody hated Swing (Or was it AWT at the time.. not sure) but the jist of this is...
They did generate Javascript code from your Java code.
Not 100% directly - but it was there for special cases.
Anyway, it's a lame technology anyway - it seems more akin to a "meta" language and won't buy most people productivity gains because they are a "one off" project anyway that doesn't get a lot of iterative development.
Not true - there's a brute force required to get at the key. Once you have the key, yes - you just swipe.
It's pretty simple overall -
The primary reason to Open Source java is so that they can get their Vm installed on every unix box out there. They get a huge "bump" when Fedora, RedHat, Suse, Debian, you name it has Java running. Microsoft may even jump in too, if there's incentive.
And then the vendors, developers, and distributions WILL code using Java - make no mistake.
The great HAZARD for Sun right now is that Mono (aka Novell) will make that jump first and become viable enough to essentially shut out Java.
Which, I personally would not oppose. I'm no Java fan, and I'm REALLY NOT a MS fan.. but C# is cleaner and nicer to learn overall - especially if you've ever done JNI.. ack bleah. JNI is the bane of the universe.