I saw this earlier and he has a good point. There haven't been many games announced for the Wii by 3rd parties. Red Steel, Madden, Super Monkey Ball, and Sponebob are all I can think of off the top of my head. There will be more, but not at launch (we're not even sure about the above).
Nintendo will have a ton of great games (good for them, they usually have a few, things are looking great here) but while EA made out like a bandit on the 360 launch (Madden, Fight Night, Burnout, whatever) there is just Nintendo here.
Of course, if they could get Super Smash Brothers out at launch (instead of a few months later as I think they said) then they could really cream the competition.
A $200 system (just a guess) with a new Mario, Super Smash Brothers, Zelda, Metroid, Wario Ware, and a few other titles at launch. What gamer could possibly resist that?
I haven't considered that much, but it is an excellent point. If I'm going to buy a Blu-Ray player, I'm going to buy a blu-ray player. You would have to be enough of a buff to want a blu-ray player, but not enough that you'd be willing to use a PS3 as your player. Small market there, I think.
I'm a big gamer. I've owned every system that came out since the NES (except the TG-16 and Jaguar). I've owned a 32x, a Sega CD, a Virtual Boy (I loved that thing), a GameGear, all the Game Boys, and such. I'm a major gamer. I've bought every system since the PlayStation (including the PlayStation) at launch except the XBox and the XBox 360. I bought the XBox a few months later, and I'm still waiting for some killer game for me on the 360.
I was going to buy a 360 but then they announced the $400 price tag (I would have done it at $300). I was going to buy a PS3 but then they announced the $600 price tag (I would have done it at $400).
I'm a gamer. I like games. I always have. But there is a limit to what I can pay. I thought the last set of consoles were a little expensive at $300. I think games are getting way to expensive at $60-$70 (which is why I rent most games and buy very few these days). The 360's price annoyed me, and I just about fell apart laughing when I saw the PS3's price.
If Sony has ANY brains there will be massive tie-ins for the launch. "Buy a PS3 and get $300 off a Sony HDTV", "Buy a PS3 and get 3 Blu-Ray movies for free", "Buy a PS3 and get $200 off if you but at least one movie and 2 games".
PS3 - $600
Game - $70
Subtotal - $670
Tax - $40 (@ 6.5%)
Total - $710 - For JUST ONE GAME
That game exists for me. It's called "Metal Gear Solid 4".
And, for that game (and the fact I could play others I know I'd like) I would buy the $400 PS3.
But there is no way I'm going to buy the $600 PS3 for that game (and other's I'd like).
That game doesn't exist on the 360 yet for me. And it WON'T exist on the PS3 until price drops about $200 for me.
The game is there. They may even be a couple of them. But there is still a limit. As much as I may want a PS3 (and that has declined the more I've learned about it), there is still something called reality to deal with. Let's put the PS3 in context. That may be 2-3 months rent for many people. Or 2-3 car payments. Or 100 trips to Starbucks. Or 10-12 new video games. Or a new Mac Mini. Or a new TV. Or a new Dell laptop.
I was thinking of getting a 360 but didn't because I wasn't going to pay $400 for a console without games that I saw as must have (still none in my eyes, although there are games I want to play).
I probably would have bought a PS3 at $400.
There is no way I'm paying $600 for a console. When the non-crippled version is available for $400 I'll probably buy it. If I can get it used for $350 I'll buy it. I'm not paying $600 unless it comes with 5 games of my choice.
And let's forget that stupid "it's also a blu-ray player" argument. That's a great argument... for anyone who wants a blu-ray player. I don't want a blu-ray player. I don't care. I don't have a HDTV so it doesn't make a difference to me. It's like saying "buy a Sega-CD because it's also a LaserDisc player (I know it wasn't)". That's how useless it is to me (and I'm willing to bet most everyone).
When the PS2 came out the DVD player argument was actually quite good. DVD players were in demand and there was a very noticeable leap in quality over VHS, along with the convenience (no rewinding, better sound, random access, doesn't degrade with repeated playings, etc). The market was starving for DVDs so they were being bought. The ability to buy something that cost a little more than a DVD player that also played excellent games and PS1 games was a good one (not why I bought mine, but a good reason).
No one cares about Blu-Ray or HD-DVD except a few early adopters. For the rest of us, you're just asking us to buy a $600 toy (plus games at $70 or $80 a pop). No sale.
I thought MS's pricing was bad. MS is going to do very good this holiday season. All those people waiting for PS3s? Lots will buy a 360 and a couple of games instead (especially if there is a price drop or redesign, say the new 360 full version (not core) for $300 or so). The Wii will be under $300, with many rumors placing it at $150 or $200.
Billy wants a video-game system for Christmas. Do I buy him the one with Mario for $200, the one with Halo for $350, or the one with Warhawk for $600. Guess how many average american families will choose that last one.
Sony, you lead for 2 generations. Obviously, it's time for you to step aside for a while so you can look at your play book and get a clue. I hope Nintendo can put it out and get a big lead, but Sony is shooting themselves in the foot with a RPG.
The 3DO launched at $700 and could play Video CDs and do all these other things too. It died, pretty much completely due to the price (it could have been a good also-ran like the DC if the price was better). The CD-i was the same thing, and it cost $400 (when other consoles were $150-$200). It bombed too.
Sony: it was nice knowing you. Come back in a generation or two.
Go Nintendo!... and Microsoft's price suddenly looks sane and like a bargain.
The problem to me is the way they intend to fix this. They'll just give us a new ID number instead of SSN.
So everyone will use the new ID number (NIDN for short from now on) where they used to use the SSN (except for Social Security themselves).
Now people won't steal other people's SSNs.
They'll steal NIDNs instead.
What a fix.
I'm with you. We need a real way to fix this. Combine the NIDN with something that can't be faked easily (finger print into a national database that can not be used by law enforcement by legal restriction) and use that.
It seems to me, worst case scenario, this will end up exactly like SSNs are now so nothing will change.
I'm in the same boat. There is one or two games on the 360 and PS3 that I am interested in. Then there is the Wii. Here is the list I have collected so far:
Trauma Center Wii
Wii Sports
Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
Super Mario Brothers Galaxy
Rayman
Sonic Wildfire
Wario Ware Smooth Move
Resident Evil Wii
Super Smash Brother Wii
They are saying they'll have up to 27 or so launch titles, so there are obviously even more. Some of them (like the Final Fantasy and others) I'm wait and see on. But these are just near-launch titles, what will we see in the future?
And that doesn't include virtual console and indie stuff.
They previously showed that "shell" that looked exactly like a wave-bird that the Wii-mote slipped in like the DC memory cards slipped into the DC controller.
As excited as I am for the Wii and it's games, I'm even more interested in the virtual console because they say they will open it up to 3rd party developers, and more importantly indie developers who "have more imagination than money" (or something like that, that was a paraphrase). Sounds like it might be possible to buy a developer license. I can't wait!
That was his point. I was just making it clearer for those who didn't get it, and just reinforcing it because it was such a unique idea. I hadn't heard that idea applied to something like a game system before.
I was just looking in that guy's house for a nice new TV. It wasn't breaking in because he left the door open.
You want to guess how well that flies? I agree it is stupid that there were no passwords on the system, but just like a yard without a fence, the fact the fence is there does not imply permission to run around there and dig up the flowers.
And it's the military. You really think you can poke around in the military's systems without them coming after you?
Now there is a very odd idea. Game systems as Wendy's hamburgers.
The Wii is the single. It's for kids and people who aren't that hungry.
The 360 is the double. It's for people who love games. They want more system than the Wii but not the gluttony of the PS3 and it's price.
The PS3 is the triple. It's for people who want the best at any cost.
Having the Wii and the PS3 on the market at lower and higher prices helps to move the 360. What an interesting idea. Where is the author of Freakanomics when you need him?
My complaint, like I said in another comment, is that I think MS made a major mistake with the hard drive. They should have put it in both SKUs. By not doing that, it became an "add-on" and "doomed to failure". The fact they sold a version of the system with it helps, but developers couldn't count on it being there like they could with the original XBox.
That was a colossal mistake. I'm glad the PS3 will include the drive in all systems.
But their price is ludicrous. I'm only going to be buying a Wii because of the price. I might have been willing to stomach $400 if the games were right. But unless that $500 includes two killer pack-in games (remember those?), I'll be waiting for a price drop, two price drops, or used systems.
I'm pretty sure that Nintendo has said that they are aiming for $50 for brand new first-party titles. I wouldn't put it past EA to charge $60 (after all, they are always the ones to push that particular envelope, IIRC).
Worst case scenario, it is the same as the PS3 and 360 pricing (which, considering the graphical differences that might show up, could be tough). Best case scenario, we are looking at $20 cheaper per game.
When I was 12 or so and the SNES came out I had to save up for months to try to buy one (Christmas came first, which was lucky because I wasn't good at saving). It was $200. I almost never bought games myself because they cost $50.
Oh to be a kid today with their $500 systems and their $75 games.
The PS3 pricing is stupid and greedy, verging on suicidal.
At least both PS3 versions are fully functional though. I still think the lack of the hard drive in one version of the 360 was a very VERY stupid mistake. Put it in both, take it out of both. But don't segment the market.
I forgot to mention. If the rumored $200 Wii price turns out true (along with the $50 games they are talking about), then for that same $640 you could buy a system and NINE games. Nine. Or six games and a bunch of controllers.
Or one Wii for your son, one for your daughter (so they don't fight), and FIVE games to share between them.
Or a Wii ($200), a 360 ($300), and 2-3 games between those two systems. More if the 360 has a price drop (possible to combat the PS3, but not really neccessary with such a high launch point).
Heck, a full 360 (not core) and 3 or 4 games will cost less than the PS3 with one game.
And all this is with the cheaper PS3 price point, no scalping
As far as I know, my local GameStop has sold all their pre-order stock, and I'm pretty sure they have a list of at least 150-200 names of people who want to be called if one shows up.
But the system is $500 for the base, not including games (probably $70 each). Not $200. Not $300. Not $400. $500.
It doesn't matter how many kids want a PS3. With a price of $640 for a base system and two games (not including tax, which would run me about $40 putting the total at $700), just how many parents do you think will buy these things for their kids?
If there is a shortage, it will either be due to VERY low supply, or a sizable increase in the average American's debt.
No, it's like putting a 200MB hard drive in a computer with a CD-ROM drive.
We did that back when CDs were new on computers (1994 or so?).
It is still a ton of space. It will work great for save games, cache, downloadable cars/charactes/levels/etc. And if it is expandable (with all the USB ports it ought to be, Nintendo is doing this) then it really isn't a problem.
You may complain about the size. But at least it's there. *cough* *XBox 360* *cough*
Everyone seemed to hate the boomerang. They all thought it looked neat but everyone said it looked uncomfortable. We already knew there would be a new controller design.
Of course, it looks excatly like the PS2 controller (only without a cable).
Also, I've seen some pictures around and the PS3 seems to have gotten slightly fatter so that everything would fit inside.
Wow. There is so much to say. I watched the whole thing unfold on Engadget/Joystiq.
My first comment is the price. What else can I comment on? $500 FOR THE BASE SYSTEM? You've got to be kidding me! The next step up is $600. And considering you'll probably need a HDTV to get the most out of the system... that is a TON of money.
They got the hard drive right though. MS got that right last time with it built in on the XBox but for some stupid reason they screwed that up with the 360. Now Sony has it right and MS has it backwards.
The games look nice, but nothing revolutionary. The list of titles is all Something 3 and Whatever 4. There wasn't too much new there. Even the new titles were the same old genres.
They "stole" the Wii-mote's features, or at least some of them. It doesn't have the light-gun like positioning. I wonder if they've had this all along or if they did it because of Nintendo. I suspect it was because of Nintendo because I think otherwise we would have heard something about it before, or at least hints. Almost all the demos they showed were the same old control style. I think they just aren't committed to this. And they said they were going to "redesign" the controller from the ugly boomerang thing. They didn't redesign it, they used the PS2 controller with some extra stuff packed in. It looks EXACTLY THE SAME. Don't get me wrong, the PS2 controller was good, but come on. I'm also skeptical about the "it weighs less" part.
I was going to buy a 360 but then they cost too much ($400 for the non-crippled version). Now I'll wait until the redesign. I was going to buy a PS3 but now I'll wait ($500 for the base?). Nintendo has guaranteed that they will launch under $300, with speculation in the $200-$250 range.
Nintendo will be able to clean MS and Sony's clocks based on price alone. Not even taking into account all the other great stuff (downloadable library, Wii-mote, great games, etc).
I can't wait for Nintendo's press conference tomorrow.
For the first time since the SNES generation, I won't be buying most of the consoles at launch. I waited a few months on the XBox was I was thrilled to get my PS2. The 360 doesn't excite me that much (mostly a games problem, I'm waiting to see what they show tomorrow). The PS3 doesn't excite me that much (mostly a games problem, we'll see). The Wii has me dreaming. I'll buy 'em all, I'm sure. But you won't see me spend over $300 on the console unless it includes games bundled in.
PS: The Wii is supposed to have a little speaker and some memory in the controller. So when you shoot it like a gun, it makes a gun sound (instead of it coming out of the TV). What a great idea! Your tennis racket makes the sound where your racket is (instead of speakers), your gun too, and anything else. Pure genius.
"During your interview, jack explains that this game is an even worse disaster than last year's' "Hot Coffee" scandal in that it has resulted in the re-rating of a "Teen" rated game that kids of all ages have already bought and secondly because it shows that the Take-Two and the ESRB and the industry as a whole learned absolutely nothing from last year's scandal."
OK, as nuts as this guy is, are you kidding me?
A little bit of topless-ness in a game rated T which was sold to kids of all ages is worse that a full sex mini-game, complete with sounds and visuals which was in a game rated MA which was sold to kids of all ages?
Remember kids: Jack Thompson says sex mini-games are better than topless-ness. Just make sure the female isn't topless.
Well it looks like they will be fixing my biggest complaint. I think Core should have been x86-64 from the beginning (or "ia32e" as Intel calls it). That was my biggest complaint with the processor. The new Core 2 Duos (what a dumb and redundant sounding name) is supposed to be based on Memron, which is supposed to have 64-bit support.
I can't wait for the new Macs that have these things.
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Nintendo will have a ton of great games (good for them, they usually have a few, things are looking great here) but while EA made out like a bandit on the 360 launch (Madden, Fight Night, Burnout, whatever) there is just Nintendo here.
Of course, if they could get Super Smash Brothers out at launch (instead of a few months later as I think they said) then they could really cream the competition.
A $200 system (just a guess) with a new Mario, Super Smash Brothers, Zelda, Metroid, Wario Ware, and a few other titles at launch. What gamer could possibly resist that?
The PS3 costs $600 when most consoles launch at $200-$300. That is, it costs twice as much.
It doesn't matter if inflation has made $600 worth what $200 used to be worth, the system still costs double what it's competitors are charging.
I haven't considered that much, but it is an excellent point. If I'm going to buy a Blu-Ray player, I'm going to buy a blu-ray player. You would have to be enough of a buff to want a blu-ray player, but not enough that you'd be willing to use a PS3 as your player. Small market there, I think.
I was going to buy a 360 but then they announced the $400 price tag (I would have done it at $300). I was going to buy a PS3 but then they announced the $600 price tag (I would have done it at $400).
I'm a gamer. I like games. I always have. But there is a limit to what I can pay. I thought the last set of consoles were a little expensive at $300. I think games are getting way to expensive at $60-$70 (which is why I rent most games and buy very few these days). The 360's price annoyed me, and I just about fell apart laughing when I saw the PS3's price.
If Sony has ANY brains there will be massive tie-ins for the launch. "Buy a PS3 and get $300 off a Sony HDTV", "Buy a PS3 and get 3 Blu-Ray movies for free", "Buy a PS3 and get $200 off if you but at least one movie and 2 games".
PS3 - $600
Game - $70
Subtotal - $670
Tax - $40 (@ 6.5%)
Total - $710 - For JUST ONE GAME
No, I mean the $600 PS3. Just like I mean the $400 XBox 360. I don't buy crippled products.
And, for that game (and the fact I could play others I know I'd like) I would buy the $400 PS3.
But there is no way I'm going to buy the $600 PS3 for that game (and other's I'd like).
That game doesn't exist on the 360 yet for me. And it WON'T exist on the PS3 until price drops about $200 for me.
The game is there. They may even be a couple of them. But there is still a limit. As much as I may want a PS3 (and that has declined the more I've learned about it), there is still something called reality to deal with. Let's put the PS3 in context. That may be 2-3 months rent for many people. Or 2-3 car payments. Or 100 trips to Starbucks. Or 10-12 new video games. Or a new Mac Mini. Or a new TV. Or a new Dell laptop.
I was thinking of getting a 360 but didn't because I wasn't going to pay $400 for a console without games that I saw as must have (still none in my eyes, although there are games I want to play).
I probably would have bought a PS3 at $400.
There is no way I'm paying $600 for a console. When the non-crippled version is available for $400 I'll probably buy it. If I can get it used for $350 I'll buy it. I'm not paying $600 unless it comes with 5 games of my choice.
And let's forget that stupid "it's also a blu-ray player" argument. That's a great argument... for anyone who wants a blu-ray player. I don't want a blu-ray player. I don't care. I don't have a HDTV so it doesn't make a difference to me. It's like saying "buy a Sega-CD because it's also a LaserDisc player (I know it wasn't)". That's how useless it is to me (and I'm willing to bet most everyone).
When the PS2 came out the DVD player argument was actually quite good. DVD players were in demand and there was a very noticeable leap in quality over VHS, along with the convenience (no rewinding, better sound, random access, doesn't degrade with repeated playings, etc). The market was starving for DVDs so they were being bought. The ability to buy something that cost a little more than a DVD player that also played excellent games and PS1 games was a good one (not why I bought mine, but a good reason).
No one cares about Blu-Ray or HD-DVD except a few early adopters. For the rest of us, you're just asking us to buy a $600 toy (plus games at $70 or $80 a pop). No sale.
I thought MS's pricing was bad. MS is going to do very good this holiday season. All those people waiting for PS3s? Lots will buy a 360 and a couple of games instead (especially if there is a price drop or redesign, say the new 360 full version (not core) for $300 or so). The Wii will be under $300, with many rumors placing it at $150 or $200.
Billy wants a video-game system for Christmas. Do I buy him the one with Mario for $200, the one with Halo for $350, or the one with Warhawk for $600. Guess how many average american families will choose that last one.
Sony, you lead for 2 generations. Obviously, it's time for you to step aside for a while so you can look at your play book and get a clue. I hope Nintendo can put it out and get a big lead, but Sony is shooting themselves in the foot with a RPG.
The 3DO launched at $700 and could play Video CDs and do all these other things too. It died, pretty much completely due to the price (it could have been a good also-ran like the DC if the price was better). The CD-i was the same thing, and it cost $400 (when other consoles were $150-$200). It bombed too.
Sony: it was nice knowing you. Come back in a generation or two.
Go Nintendo!... and Microsoft's price suddenly looks sane and like a bargain.
So everyone will use the new ID number (NIDN for short from now on) where they used to use the SSN (except for Social Security themselves).
Now people won't steal other people's SSNs.
They'll steal NIDNs instead.
What a fix.
I'm with you. We need a real way to fix this. Combine the NIDN with something that can't be faked easily (finger print into a national database that can not be used by law enforcement by legal restriction) and use that.
It seems to me, worst case scenario, this will end up exactly like SSNs are now so nothing will change.
EG: When did you first learn about [the tilt functionality] controller?
Dylan Jobe: We've really known officially for about a week and a half, and we did the final tuning just a couple of days ago.
I thought it was a good idea though.
They are saying they'll have up to 27 or so launch titles, so there are obviously even more. Some of them (like the Final Fantasy and others) I'm wait and see on. But these are just near-launch titles, what will we see in the future?
And that doesn't include virtual console and indie stuff.
As excited as I am for the Wii and it's games, I'm even more interested in the virtual console because they say they will open it up to 3rd party developers, and more importantly indie developers who "have more imagination than money" (or something like that, that was a paraphrase). Sounds like it might be possible to buy a developer license. I can't wait!
That was his point. I was just making it clearer for those who didn't get it, and just reinforcing it because it was such a unique idea. I hadn't heard that idea applied to something like a game system before.
You want to guess how well that flies? I agree it is stupid that there were no passwords on the system, but just like a yard without a fence, the fact the fence is there does not imply permission to run around there and dig up the flowers.
And it's the military. You really think you can poke around in the military's systems without them coming after you?
The Wii is the single. It's for kids and people who aren't that hungry.
The 360 is the double. It's for people who love games. They want more system than the Wii but not the gluttony of the PS3 and it's price.
The PS3 is the triple. It's for people who want the best at any cost.
Having the Wii and the PS3 on the market at lower and higher prices helps to move the 360. What an interesting idea. Where is the author of Freakanomics when you need him?
That was a colossal mistake. I'm glad the PS3 will include the drive in all systems.
But their price is ludicrous. I'm only going to be buying a Wii because of the price. I might have been willing to stomach $400 if the games were right. But unless that $500 includes two killer pack-in games (remember those?), I'll be waiting for a price drop, two price drops, or used systems.
Worst case scenario, it is the same as the PS3 and 360 pricing (which, considering the graphical differences that might show up, could be tough). Best case scenario, we are looking at $20 cheaper per game.
When I was 12 or so and the SNES came out I had to save up for months to try to buy one (Christmas came first, which was lucky because I wasn't good at saving). It was $200. I almost never bought games myself because they cost $50.
Oh to be a kid today with their $500 systems and their $75 games.
Yeesh.
The PS3 pricing is stupid and greedy, verging on suicidal.
At least both PS3 versions are fully functional though. I still think the lack of the hard drive in one version of the 360 was a very VERY stupid mistake. Put it in both, take it out of both. But don't segment the market.
Or one Wii for your son, one for your daughter (so they don't fight), and FIVE games to share between them.
Or a Wii ($200), a 360 ($300), and 2-3 games between those two systems. More if the 360 has a price drop (possible to combat the PS3, but not really neccessary with such a high launch point).
Heck, a full 360 (not core) and 3 or 4 games will cost less than the PS3 with one game.
And all this is with the cheaper PS3 price point, no scalping
As far as I know, my local GameStop has sold all their pre-order stock, and I'm pretty sure they have a list of at least 150-200 names of people who want to be called if one shows up.
But the system is $500 for the base, not including games (probably $70 each). Not $200. Not $300. Not $400. $500.
It doesn't matter how many kids want a PS3. With a price of $640 for a base system and two games (not including tax, which would run me about $40 putting the total at $700), just how many parents do you think will buy these things for their kids?
If there is a shortage, it will either be due to VERY low supply, or a sizable increase in the average American's debt.
We did that back when CDs were new on computers (1994 or so?).
It is still a ton of space. It will work great for save games, cache, downloadable cars/charactes/levels/etc. And if it is expandable (with all the USB ports it ought to be, Nintendo is doing this) then it really isn't a problem.
You may complain about the size. But at least it's there. *cough* *XBox 360* *cough*
Of course, it looks excatly like the PS2 controller (only without a cable).
Also, I've seen some pictures around and the PS3 seems to have gotten slightly fatter so that everything would fit inside.
My first comment is the price. What else can I comment on? $500 FOR THE BASE SYSTEM? You've got to be kidding me! The next step up is $600. And considering you'll probably need a HDTV to get the most out of the system... that is a TON of money.
They got the hard drive right though. MS got that right last time with it built in on the XBox but for some stupid reason they screwed that up with the 360. Now Sony has it right and MS has it backwards.
The games look nice, but nothing revolutionary. The list of titles is all Something 3 and Whatever 4. There wasn't too much new there. Even the new titles were the same old genres.
They "stole" the Wii-mote's features, or at least some of them. It doesn't have the light-gun like positioning. I wonder if they've had this all along or if they did it because of Nintendo. I suspect it was because of Nintendo because I think otherwise we would have heard something about it before, or at least hints. Almost all the demos they showed were the same old control style. I think they just aren't committed to this. And they said they were going to "redesign" the controller from the ugly boomerang thing. They didn't redesign it, they used the PS2 controller with some extra stuff packed in. It looks EXACTLY THE SAME. Don't get me wrong, the PS2 controller was good, but come on. I'm also skeptical about the "it weighs less" part.
I was going to buy a 360 but then they cost too much ($400 for the non-crippled version). Now I'll wait until the redesign. I was going to buy a PS3 but now I'll wait ($500 for the base?). Nintendo has guaranteed that they will launch under $300, with speculation in the $200-$250 range. Nintendo will be able to clean MS and Sony's clocks based on price alone. Not even taking into account all the other great stuff (downloadable library, Wii-mote, great games, etc).
I can't wait for Nintendo's press conference tomorrow.
For the first time since the SNES generation, I won't be buying most of the consoles at launch. I waited a few months on the XBox was I was thrilled to get my PS2. The 360 doesn't excite me that much (mostly a games problem, I'm waiting to see what they show tomorrow). The PS3 doesn't excite me that much (mostly a games problem, we'll see). The Wii has me dreaming. I'll buy 'em all, I'm sure. But you won't see me spend over $300 on the console unless it includes games bundled in.
PS: The Wii is supposed to have a little speaker and some memory in the controller. So when you shoot it like a gun, it makes a gun sound (instead of it coming out of the TV). What a great idea! Your tennis racket makes the sound where your racket is (instead of speakers), your gun too, and anything else. Pure genius.
OK, as nuts as this guy is, are you kidding me?
A little bit of topless-ness in a game rated T which was sold to kids of all ages is worse that a full sex mini-game, complete with sounds and visuals which was in a game rated MA which was sold to kids of all ages?
Remember kids: Jack Thompson says sex mini-games are better than topless-ness. Just make sure the female isn't topless.
I can't wait for the new Macs that have these things.