>>> What the heck does that have to do with anything? Especially since a good chunk of those run on PowerPC's?
That is why we do not see eye-to-eye. Why should I pay for something that only gets me "MOST", or "a good chunk". What is the point? If I can get all the diversity I want, 100% with a PC, why should I step down? Nobody has answered that question in all of the posts...
>>> Uh, whatever dude. I suppose you also think IDE is better than SCSI because its more common?
No I do not think IDE is better than SCSI. Never said that x86 is better than PPC. I said that x86 instruction set is king because there is much more of it.
Is IDE king in comparison to SCSI? Absolutely. I like SCSI and use it in one of our servers. But not anymore. With and IDE RAID I have a cheaper more effective solution that SCSI could ever offer.
Windows, Linux (essentially all flavours), BSD's (Free, Open, etc essentially all flavours), GNU Hurd, OS/2, AtheOS, BeOS (many flavours), Plan9, Minix, QNX, Solaris, etc...
The list goes on for miles and miles and miles... The x86 instruction set is king, it has won hands down. That I think is the essential problem of OS-X. OS-X is a great OS. It is what many OS's should be. Because it is only available of PPC, it becomes a secondary OS.
That says it all, MOST, not all. So that means if I get a Mac OS-X box I get most of the functionality not all that I could get with a PC. Then if MAYBE the app runs on a MAC, then like you said it is a TRICKY install...
Macs run a few apps, not MOST. Here are some apps that are not available on a MAC, Visual Slick Edit, Komodo, XMLSpy, etc. These apps run on both Windows and Linux, even with Wine. I bought CrossOver Office so that I could run all of the Windows apps that I use on Linux.
Maybe I can run Windows apps through some wierd modulation, but most of the time it is slower and does not work.
Mac OSX notebooks look slick and they have a cool interface. Having used one I am not even against the Mac OSX boxes. BUT, and this is the clincher, when I buy a PC box I can run Windows and Linux, which runs 100% of the applications that I want. So tell me why go from 100% to 80%? Get me MacOSX on Intel and I will buy it...
PC's are not mono culture. PC's are extremely diverse. Just because many PC's run Windows does not mean that is all a PC can do.
I used to run a Mac Notebook. Gave it away. Why? Because it was too limited. With my PC I can run; Linux, Windows, FreeBsd, Solaris, etc. On top of each OS I can run X*X*X applications.
My Mac essentially has two choices OSX or Linux from Yellow Dog. Software apps is even worse. I once asked a company selling Linux software to do a simple recompile for OSX. No-go.... While Open Source is great not all packages will configure and build for a PPC chip. It is just oo frustrating...
I don't agree with this. Lets say that what you say is right. The household has a admin. Even then installing things on Linux can be downright frustrating.
For example to where do you actually install apps?/usr/local,/usr? Each app has its own idea where it would like to go. Then what about the menus? They are just added by default with Windows. If worse gets to worse I can add it manually. Linux? Ever tried to manipulate the menus. Gosh, darn, shhiet... How about uninstalling the application? Linux is more work to maintain than a Windows box and this what needs to be fixed.
I like Linux and I use Linux, but I would never dream of installing Linux on my mom's notebook. EVEN though, it is me that maintains her current Windows notebook.
I am very slowly coming to the conclusion that Open Source will survive and prosper, but at the end of the day it is going to be a Windows desktop. Even though the Windows desktop can be used without MS software...
I like LINUX, I use Redhat 9 because most things are automatically recognized.
BUT, the study is based on two BIG flaws... In the usage scenarios the following is said.
1)The computer is largely preconfigured 2)Use of the computer is mostly restricted to specific applications in a practically homogenous surronding.
Well, DUH! If I give them a black box with only only black box applications Linux and Windows are largely the same. In fact most OS's in this context are largely the same...
The PROBLEM of the OS's is when you need to add applications, remove applications or do those silly extra steps. Then Linux becomes hell. The only company that I think has clued into this problem is RedHat. Bluecurve in Redhat 8 was a godsend. No more twiddling with text files. I can pop in my Redhat 9 CD's and it will recognize everything on my notebook, including wireless card. That is how it should be...
Sorry, but that study is partially flawed as many Microsoft studies.
And if I may be cynical, you first need to learn French....;)
BTW my wife is Quebecoise.... We live in Europe and the French always tell her...
Ah oui, la belle province...
She cannot hide her accent at all from the French. They always know that she is Quebecoise. Me having learned Quebecoise makes it DAMM hard to speak to the French.
Ah oui, je voudrais le tart de blue'... The woman looked at me and could not figure out what I was getting at. My wife said, "Myrteil?"....
Oddly enough the French always come up to my wife and I, and say "Salut Tarbar......". They think it is funny. We look at them and go, OK????
English is becoming American
on
Flavor vs. Flavour
·
· Score: 3, Interesting
I write and present for a living. My wife for works for an international Investment bank. We DO NOT live in either the US or UK. We live in Switzerland.
What is the English used? American English. My wife even had a document pop up in her email defining what language to use and what words to use. Lo and behold what language dominated? American English, even though the company was not American or British...
The reality is that American English is winning, even among those "common wealth" countires...
The courts have stated that RIM infringed on some patents of ANOTHER company. RIM's business is built on having an almost exclusivity in a market. Now that their "IP" is with another company RIM is going to see competition. This does not bode well.
I said it once and will say it again. Patents SUCK... Imagine how much further we would be if there was free competition?
I used to think that this stuff made up by the recording companies is nothing but garbage. Now I am not this point of view anymore. Yes, in early days working up from pubs to record deal to charts was the way to go. That is not an absolute though.
The "manufactured" bands could be a stepping stone onto something biffer. They just get their name out in the market. It does not mean that once a "boy" or "girl" band always a "boy" or "girl" band. It is a foot in the door. Robbie Williams, George Micheals all had their beginnings in boy bands...
The overall problem though is that music industry is just feeling the pinch of 12-18 year olds lack of attention. Maybe 12-18 do not need to buy music anymore. I see it in my younger brother. His surround sound music system is wired to his TV and he is constantly listening to MTV or VIVA. Why does he really need to buy music? If he likes a song, he just whips out a mini-disc and records straight off his digital TV feed and gets a perfect copy. (This stuff is not rocket science and does not require overally expensive equipment. Just the right equipment) He would rather spend money of video games or something along those lines...
First you got your tires wrong. It was not Michelin, but Firestone.
Second, the problem of the tires was that FORD, recommended a 26psi instead of the recommended 30 psi
Third, please read the following http://www.fordexplorerrollover.com/rollover_rates/Default.cfm
Fourth, yes there can be problems. The problem though is that FORD hid the evidence and the problems.
Fifth, problems will always happen. Having an open system will in the long run be better than a closed system. An open system is open to public scrutiny. Look how far people did get with Ford?
People, we are missing the bigger picture here. The reason why every car is tested is because it is different combinations... Because of the different combinations that keep changing. This year's car is not last year's car. That is the problem.
If the car were "Open Sourced" then each piece would have to adhere to some specs that when put together enable a safe car. This is like building a house. The individual pieces are considered safe, and when assembled a safe car will result.
How is a safe car tested? Here Europe is miles ahead. They have something called the TUV (different country different words). Your car needs to pass the TUV either every two years or year (depending on the age). When they test it takes about a hour. They test brakes, suspension, lights, motor, exhaust fumes, etc, etc. It is an indepth test. In Switzerland they even have a race course where if you have a sports car they will race the car.
I used to work in the car, and my dad was a VEEP in the car industry. This is very different to how people build cars today.
Yes, you can order options and yes you can tune the car. However, all of that is specific to a car marker, model and year. There are not many truly interchangeable parts. Tires is about as generic as it goes, but even that is changing.
What this guy is proposing is quite revolutionary. He is proposing on making the car a set of lego blocks that can interchangeably be installed. This is quite the task. He is saying that the parts will adhere to "Open Source" standards that anybody could use. In effect he is saying he willing to give the specs and is inviting competition. Quite the idea...
I would not call him the Dell of the industry, more like the PC Clone of the industry. Imagine having a car where you could take out the seats and replace them with any model. INSTEAD of today having to specifically define the car maker, model and year. Or worse specifically go to the car marker.
If he is successful he will bring much needed innovation into the car industry... Namely, electric, hydrogen powered cars, etc. It will allow the "common" person to tinker and come up with neat and interesting ideas...
Do you what the biggest problem right now on the Internet is? Asynchronous callbacks! Why? Because NAT, firewalls, etc makes all of this damm difficult.
When you have GPRS phones you have the ability to make asychronous callbacks. How do you think that is going to happen outside of the network? NAT, does not easily manage this for you. There is only one way to manage this, giving each person a unique address...
You are arguing two different points. I said that the industry recycles their metals. And the website proves my point. They recycle, which means it does not end up in land fills or other places.
The second issue is if the recycling is being carried out in an environmentally friendly manner? Yes it can happen as it does in Europe, but that costs too much. So they moved to other cheaper places. That is an entirely different argument and should not be confused with my original point.
What is in a landfill is a small amount of consumer waste. The consumer can recycle their metal products and get money for it. I know...
Why do I know about this metal recycling? Because my father used to own a metal stamping company. And it made sense to recycle because you would be given money. Most people do not know that you get MONEY back...
So sorry, take a look at industry and how it recycles...
Sure it is funny, but the bamboo society is missing a fundenmental point...
I disagree with this non-environmental friendly stuff regarding Aluminum and Steel. These two metals are some of most recycled materials that there are. What do you think happens to old ships, cars, buildings? They are not buried, but smelted again.
In fact this is the beauty of these metals. They can be essentially recycled 100% unlike plastics and papers that always need additives. The reason we do not know about this is because steel and aluminum have been recycled for decades...
I am in Germany/Switzerland as well. And last I remember the parent poster was right. Sure they can say you want to do it. But DVD players come in all shapes and sizes. Popular are the ones without region encoding, like the one sitting in front of me...
Seriously... I shave sometimes with a razor, sometimes with an electric shaver. The Mach3 blades cost something on the order of about 15 USD for five. (Or at least that is what I pay here in Switzerland). It is totally outrageous. Talk about a monopoly!
The worst part is that I tried to downgrade to a cheaper shaver. It seems that they not as good and do not hold as long...
It happened with my mothers notebook. When she bought it about four months ago she decided to visit me so that I could tune it.
First thing I did was wipe the disk and put on Windows XP Professional (Linux was a bit much for her). So off I go installing...installing. After the initial install I manually installed all the drivers. Well I could tweak all I wanted, two or three things would not work. I was puzzled and said, Mom, I think you have a dud. This was bad since in a week she was about to fly to South America to visit my sister.
Then on a hunch I thought, lets play this game like Tosh says. I install off the DVD and guess what. EVERYTHING WORKED. I mean absolutely everything.
I looked at her configuration and thought, S**T they did a custom build job. What I REALLY find scary about this is that you cannot do proper backups and are subject to their rules when it comes to upgrading, etc. TOSH really screwed over their customer.
So, in fact the original poster has a point. Tosh is doing something they should not be doing... Result, do not buy a TOSH because you will be screwed... Or TOSH just wants to sell you THEIR CD's...
Trust me on this one... You do not understand the problem.
It happened with my mothers notebook. When she bought it about four months ago she decided to visit me so that I could tune it.
First thing I did was wipe the disk and put on Windows XP (Linux was a bit much for her). So off I go installing...installing. After the initial install I manually installed all the drivers. Well I could tweak all I wanted, two or three things would not work. I was puzzled and said, Mom, I think you have a dud. This was bad since in a week she was about to fly to South America to visit my sister.
Then on a hunch I thought, lets play this game like Tosh says. I install off the DVD and guess what. EVERYTHING WORKED. I mean absolutely everything.
I looked at her configuration and thought, S**T they did a custom build job. What I REALLY find scary about this is that you cannot do proper backups and are subject to their rules when it comes to upgrading, etc. TOSH really screwed over their customer.
So, in fact the original poster has a point. Tosh is doing something they should not be doing... Result, do not buy a TOSH because you will be screwed...
Slashdot Mirror
>>> What the heck does that have to do with anything? Especially since a good chunk of those run on PowerPC's?
That is why we do not see eye-to-eye. Why should I pay for something that only gets me "MOST", or "a good chunk". What is the point? If I can get all the diversity I want, 100% with a PC, why should I step down? Nobody has answered that question in all of the posts...
>>> Uh, whatever dude. I suppose you also think IDE is better than SCSI because its more common?
No I do not think IDE is better than SCSI. Never said that x86 is better than PPC. I said that x86 instruction set is king because there is much more of it.
Is IDE king in comparison to SCSI? Absolutely. I like SCSI and use it in one of our servers. But not anymore. With and IDE RAID I have a cheaper more effective solution that SCSI could ever offer.
Ok, fighting fire with Fire...
On the PC box I have:
Windows, Linux (essentially all flavours), BSD's (Free, Open, etc essentially all flavours), GNU Hurd, OS/2, AtheOS, BeOS (many flavours), Plan9, Minix, QNX, Solaris, etc...
The list goes on for miles and miles and miles... The x86 instruction set is king, it has won hands down. That I think is the essential problem of OS-X. OS-X is a great OS. It is what many OS's should be. Because it is only available of PPC, it becomes a secondary OS.
>> With Fink, most open source packages
That says it all, MOST, not all. So that means if I get a Mac OS-X box I get most of the functionality not all that I could get with a PC. Then if MAYBE the app runs on a MAC, then like you said it is a TRICKY install...
Macs run a few apps, not MOST. Here are some apps that are not available on a MAC, Visual Slick Edit, Komodo, XMLSpy, etc. These apps run on both Windows and Linux, even with Wine. I bought CrossOver Office so that I could run all of the Windows apps that I use on Linux.
Maybe I can run Windows apps through some wierd modulation, but most of the time it is slower and does not work.
Mac OSX notebooks look slick and they have a cool interface. Having used one I am not even against the Mac OSX boxes. BUT, and this is the clincher, when I buy a PC box I can run Windows and Linux, which runs 100% of the applications that I want. So tell me why go from 100% to 80%? Get me MacOSX on Intel and I will buy it...
PC's are not mono culture. PC's are extremely diverse. Just because many PC's run Windows does not mean that is all a PC can do.
I used to run a Mac Notebook. Gave it away. Why? Because it was too limited. With my PC I can run; Linux, Windows, FreeBsd, Solaris, etc. On top of each OS I can run X*X*X applications.
My Mac essentially has two choices OSX or Linux from Yellow Dog. Software apps is even worse. I once asked a company selling Linux software to do a simple recompile for OSX. No-go.... While Open Source is great not all packages will configure and build for a PPC chip. It is just oo frustrating...
Nope, it is the Mac world is that mono-culture...
I don't agree with this. Lets say that what you say is right. The household has a admin. Even then installing things on Linux can be downright frustrating.
/usr/local, /usr? Each app has its own idea where it would like to go. Then what about the menus? They are just added by default with Windows. If worse gets to worse I can add it manually. Linux? Ever tried to manipulate the menus. Gosh, darn, shhiet... How about uninstalling the application? Linux is more work to maintain than a Windows box and this what needs to be fixed.
For example to where do you actually install apps?
I like Linux and I use Linux, but I would never dream of installing Linux on my mom's notebook. EVEN though, it is me that maintains her current Windows notebook.
I am very slowly coming to the conclusion that Open Source will survive and prosper, but at the end of the day it is going to be a Windows desktop. Even though the Windows desktop can be used without MS software...
Dell Inspiron 8200. Works well with Linux...
Here is what worked out of the box; Dell network, graphic card, wireless card (Oriccon), sound card, etc.
I am happy...
I like LINUX, I use Redhat 9 because most things are automatically recognized.
BUT, the study is based on two BIG flaws... In the usage scenarios the following is said.
1)The computer is largely preconfigured
2)Use of the computer is mostly restricted to specific applications in a practically homogenous surronding.
Well, DUH! If I give them a black box with only only black box applications Linux and Windows are largely the same. In fact most OS's in this context are largely the same...
The PROBLEM of the OS's is when you need to add applications, remove applications or do those silly extra steps. Then Linux becomes hell. The only company that I think has clued into this problem is RedHat. Bluecurve in Redhat 8 was a godsend. No more twiddling with text files. I can pop in my Redhat 9 CD's and it will recognize everything on my notebook, including wireless card. That is how it should be...
Sorry, but that study is partially flawed as many Microsoft studies.
The biggest eye brower raiser I said was
"Regard c'est mon char"...
They looked at me and wondered where my tank was...
I said, you said.... This will get us nowhere REAL quick...
The proof in the pudding is to visit some Multi-national websites and look at their Investor pages. What is it written in? American English...
And if I may be cynical, you first need to learn French.... ;)
BTW my wife is Quebecoise.... We live in Europe and the French always tell her...
Ah oui, la belle province...
She cannot hide her accent at all from the French. They always know that she is Quebecoise. Me having learned Quebecoise makes it DAMM hard to speak to the French.
Ah oui, je voudrais le tart de blue'... The woman looked at me and could not figure out what I was getting at. My wife said, "Myrteil?"....
Oddly enough the French always come up to my wife and I, and say "Salut Tarbar......". They think it is funny. We look at them and go, OK????
I write and present for a living. My wife for works for an international Investment bank. We DO NOT live in either the US or UK. We live in Switzerland.
What is the English used? American English. My wife even had a document pop up in her email defining what language to use and what words to use. Lo and behold what language dominated? American English, even though the company was not American or British...
The reality is that American English is winning, even among those "common wealth" countires...
This does not bod well for RIM.
The courts have stated that RIM infringed on some patents of ANOTHER company. RIM's business is built on having an almost exclusivity in a market. Now that their "IP" is with another company RIM is going to see competition. This does not bode well.
I said it once and will say it again. Patents SUCK... Imagine how much further we would be if there was free competition?
I used to think that this stuff made up by the recording companies is nothing but garbage. Now I am not this point of view anymore. Yes, in early days working up from pubs to record deal to charts was the way to go. That is not an absolute though.
The "manufactured" bands could be a stepping stone onto something biffer. They just get their name out in the market. It does not mean that once a "boy" or "girl" band always a "boy" or "girl" band. It is a foot in the door. Robbie Williams, George Micheals all had their beginnings in boy bands...
The overall problem though is that music industry is just feeling the pinch of 12-18 year olds lack of attention. Maybe 12-18 do not need to buy music anymore. I see it in my younger brother. His surround sound music system is wired to his TV and he is constantly listening to MTV or VIVA. Why does he really need to buy music? If he likes a song, he just whips out a mini-disc and records straight off his digital TV feed and gets a perfect copy. (This stuff is not rocket science and does not require overally expensive equipment. Just the right equipment) He would rather spend money of video games or something along those lines...
First you got your tires wrong. It was not Michelin, but Firestone.
s /Default.cfm
Second, the problem of the tires was that FORD, recommended a 26psi instead of the recommended 30 psi
Third, please read the following http://www.fordexplorerrollover.com/rollover_rate
Fourth, yes there can be problems. The problem though is that FORD hid the evidence and the problems.
Fifth, problems will always happen. Having an open system will in the long run be better than a closed system. An open system is open to public scrutiny. Look how far people did get with Ford?
People, we are missing the bigger picture here. The reason why every car is tested is because it is different combinations... Because of the different combinations that keep changing. This year's car is not last year's car. That is the problem.
If the car were "Open Sourced" then each piece would have to adhere to some specs that when put together enable a safe car. This is like building a house. The individual pieces are considered safe, and when assembled a safe car will result.
How is a safe car tested? Here Europe is miles ahead. They have something called the TUV (different country different words). Your car needs to pass the TUV either every two years or year (depending on the age). When they test it takes about a hour. They test brakes, suspension, lights, motor, exhaust fumes, etc, etc. It is an indepth test. In Switzerland they even have a race course where if you have a sports car they will race the car.
No this guy is on the right track...
I used to work in the car, and my dad was a VEEP in the car industry. This is very different to how people build cars today.
Yes, you can order options and yes you can tune the car. However, all of that is specific to a car marker, model and year. There are not many truly interchangeable parts. Tires is about as generic as it goes, but even that is changing.
What this guy is proposing is quite revolutionary. He is proposing on making the car a set of lego blocks that can interchangeably be installed. This is quite the task. He is saying that the parts will adhere to "Open Source" standards that anybody could use. In effect he is saying he willing to give the specs and is inviting competition. Quite the idea...
I would not call him the Dell of the industry, more like the PC Clone of the industry. Imagine having a car where you could take out the seats and replace them with any model. INSTEAD of today having to specifically define the car maker, model and year. Or worse specifically go to the car marker.
If he is successful he will bring much needed innovation into the car industry... Namely, electric, hydrogen powered cars, etc. It will allow the "common" person to tinker and come up with neat and interesting ideas...
Do you what the biggest problem right now on the Internet is? Asynchronous callbacks! Why? Because NAT, firewalls, etc makes all of this damm difficult.
When you have GPRS phones you have the ability to make asychronous callbacks. How do you think that is going to happen outside of the network? NAT, does not easily manage this for you. There is only one way to manage this, giving each person a unique address...
Sorry, but there is a case for using IP6...
Ok, I looked at the website....
You are arguing two different points. I said that the industry recycles their metals. And the website proves my point. They recycle, which means it does not end up in land fills or other places.
The second issue is if the recycling is being carried out in an environmentally friendly manner? Yes it can happen as it does in Europe, but that costs too much. So they moved to other cheaper places. That is an entirely different argument and should not be confused with my original point.
What is in a landfill is a small amount of consumer waste. The consumer can recycle their metal products and get money for it. I know...
Why do I know about this metal recycling? Because my father used to own a metal stamping company. And it made sense to recycle because you would be given money. Most people do not know that you get MONEY back...
So sorry, take a look at industry and how it recycles...
Sure it is funny, but the bamboo society is missing a fundenmental point...
I disagree with this non-environmental friendly stuff regarding Aluminum and Steel. These two metals are some of most recycled materials that there are. What do you think happens to old ships, cars, buildings? They are not buried, but smelted again.
In fact this is the beauty of these metals. They can be essentially recycled 100% unlike plastics and papers that always need additives. The reason we do not know about this is because steel and aluminum have been recycled for decades...
I am in Germany/Switzerland as well. And last I remember the parent poster was right. Sure they can say you want to do it. But DVD players come in all shapes and sizes. Popular are the ones without region encoding, like the one sitting in front of me...
What I am alleging is that the shaving companies have a conspiracy and setup a nice and neat monopoly.
You pay less you get less blades. It does not matter who you go to, but the price factor is the same.
It is like shaving cream. There are like X varieties and they are are all about same price per quanity (+-20%). That is a monopoly...
Sadly these days most of the multi-nationals seem to have setup monopolies. Music, Movies, etc, etc...
Seriously... I shave sometimes with a razor, sometimes with an electric shaver. The Mach3 blades cost something on the order of about 15 USD for five. (Or at least that is what I pay here in Switzerland). It is totally outrageous. Talk about a monopoly!
The worst part is that I tried to downgrade to a cheaper shaver. It seems that they not as good and do not hold as long...
It happened with my mothers notebook. When she bought it about four months ago she decided to visit me so that I could tune it.
First thing I did was wipe the disk and put on Windows XP Professional (Linux was a bit much for her). So off I go installing...installing. After the initial install I manually installed all the drivers. Well I could tweak all I wanted, two or three things would not work. I was puzzled and said, Mom, I think you have a dud. This was bad since in a week she was about to fly to South America to visit my sister.
Then on a hunch I thought, lets play this game like Tosh says. I install off the DVD and guess what. EVERYTHING WORKED. I mean absolutely everything.
I looked at her configuration and thought, S**T they did a custom build job. What I REALLY find scary about this is that you cannot do proper backups and are subject to their rules when it comes to upgrading, etc. TOSH really screwed over their customer.
So, in fact the original poster has a point. Tosh is doing something they should not be doing... Result, do not buy a TOSH because you will be screwed... Or TOSH just wants to sell you THEIR CD's...
Trust me on this one... You do not understand the problem.
It happened with my mothers notebook. When she bought it about four months ago she decided to visit me so that I could tune it.
First thing I did was wipe the disk and put on Windows XP (Linux was a bit much for her). So off I go installing...installing. After the initial install I manually installed all the drivers. Well I could tweak all I wanted, two or three things would not work. I was puzzled and said, Mom, I think you have a dud. This was bad since in a week she was about to fly to South America to visit my sister.
Then on a hunch I thought, lets play this game like Tosh says. I install off the DVD and guess what. EVERYTHING WORKED. I mean absolutely everything.
I looked at her configuration and thought, S**T they did a custom build job. What I REALLY find scary about this is that you cannot do proper backups and are subject to their rules when it comes to upgrading, etc. TOSH really screwed over their customer.
So, in fact the original poster has a point. Tosh is doing something they should not be doing... Result, do not buy a TOSH because you will be screwed...