I do, however, contest the assertion that most gamers will pay for value. The games industry in particular is where piracy reigns. Perhaps gamers interested in indie gaming are different, but I kind of question it.
I'm well aware this doesn't apply to you, but consider to me that nearly all generic FPS games are the same and not really worth playing, let alone paying for.
Oh please. Quite a few of us who choose to make use of the GPL do so to/protect/ our work from what we consider to be exploitation. To me, if someone takes my code, integrates it directly into a product, and makes money from it, I've been exploited. Yet anyone who uses it, even for profit, in its form is not. The GPL protects me from exploitation, something like the BSD license does not.
This is of course my personal feeling. Like you, I care more about avoiding being exploited than profiting in any particular way, I just define it differently. So do the BSD communities, and other groups in the software world
To put it another way, think of the GPL community as like another company out there. If you work for a standard, primarily closed-source, company, you can probably use any code from that company in your product as you see fit, but you are adding more code to the company codebase with what you create.
I see GPL development as more or less equivalent to this. To accuse me of being selfish or of hoarding because I choose to require this contribution in kind for my work, yet not look at companies like Microsoft or Apple the same way, is simply hypocritical. I don't criticize Microsoft for not letting me steal the source code for some app of theirs and integrate it into mine. Who are they, then, to call my work "tainted" or "viral"?
I doubt that many GPL people see it this way, though, that is, the parity between GPL and any other company.
I have bought games after pirating them because I liked them so much, but generally only in cases where the game didn't offer a significant demo (most games have very little in it). I'd say if there's a big enough demo (like yours) and I still haven't bought it by the end I'm unlikely to do so (but then I'm also unlikely to pirate the full version)
Steam is nice because it finds a way to have DRM add value in addition to taking it away. If you have the account, you can play it on another computer. (Just/please/ don't make people be online any time they want to play, that's freakin' annoying on flights and trips and such)
I also suggest that you make a solemn guarantee to customers that having bought the game they will be able to play it forever. This is my single biggest deciding factor in allowing DRM.
That's not to say I completely agree with what you're doing here, but I think it's a decent compromise given the difficult position you're in.
No it's clearly soulless pirates who are worse than the scum that steal candy from crippled blind penniless orphaned cute puppies. Studies have shown that the total cost of piracy over $180 trillion dollars per day in North Dakota alone. Doesn't have anything to do with this "recession" the liberals keep trying to pretend is happening.
But yes, when prices go up and/or willingness to spend goes down, people start cutting luxuries. For some, it's buying music. For others, it's obtaining new music. It's called market forces and the RIAA is going to have to learn to deal with it sooner or later.
Yeah, some friends and I have a student run store at our college, and we import a lot of food from Mexico to avoid corn syrup. Aside from the higher caloric content per sweetness, I don't know of conclusive evidence it's worse for you (aside from mercury contamination), but boy does it taste worse.
Ironic isn't it? Paying more to buy Mexican products because they're higher quality.
Yeah, I feel the same way about Big Corn and their fucking syrup they put in everything to make it taste like shit. The problem is that these guys are so entrenched in our political economy that any politician that opposes them will find himself the subject of baby-eating allegations on TV.
I wouldn't phrase it as abuse, since they are under the caps they were sold at the time. I'd use a less loaded word. We can fight over whether it's accurate or not but it will make your customers dislike you less and doing so for free is worth losing a few ego points.
Well the traffic shaping based on type (eg P2P) is questionably legal, though we don't really know for sure either way since Comcrap backed down before it went to court.
I mean, I can see the argument here as to why it should be illegal given the laws as written. From my CS perspective, they're aiding in transmission of a file.
I think it's time for darknets.
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Roses are red, Violets are blue, OP is flaimbait, but so are you.
Are you sure? I thought the issue with software like Requiem under DMCA was that you couldn't distribute legally. But possession, creation, and use were all legal.
In any case it's a moot point. Requiem will soon be obsolete with iTunes going DRM free.
This and Hulu make me very happy. It takes a bit longer to download than bittorrent, but I don't find the ads obtrusive (so short), the quality is good enough for me, and the option to stream live is handy.
I imagine they don't like you downloading it but sometimes I don't have tubes, and as the commercials aren't annoying I don't bother removing them.
Now if only they carried programming I liked more...and here we are:-)
Freedom of speech is very important, but there are exceptions. For example, we don't have the right to watch child porn in a crowded theatre, because that would harm children.
We don't have the right to hijack music vessels on the high seas because it would harm the corporate interests that sheltered us when we were still huddled around dark fires, marveling at shadows on the cave wall.
I fully support OpenDNS's sensible actions, or "sens-orship", as I like to call it. Surely we can trust any corporation with "open" in the title to control our minds in a way we will soon be programmed to approve of.
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Good point, Lenovo isn't on there. Or maybe that's under IBM since this is before the spinoff?
I do, however, contest the assertion that most gamers will pay for value. The games industry in particular is where piracy reigns. Perhaps gamers interested in indie gaming are different, but I kind of question it.
I'm well aware this doesn't apply to you, but consider to me that nearly all generic FPS games are the same and not really worth playing, let alone paying for.
Oh please. Quite a few of us who choose to make use of the GPL do so to /protect/ our work from what we consider to be exploitation. To me, if someone takes my code, integrates it directly into a product, and makes money from it, I've been exploited. Yet anyone who uses it, even for profit, in its form is not. The GPL protects me from exploitation, something like the BSD license does not.
This is of course my personal feeling. Like you, I care more about avoiding being exploited than profiting in any particular way, I just define it differently. So do the BSD communities, and other groups in the software world
To put it another way, think of the GPL community as like another company out there. If you work for a standard, primarily closed-source, company, you can probably use any code from that company in your product as you see fit, but you are adding more code to the company codebase with what you create.
I see GPL development as more or less equivalent to this. To accuse me of being selfish or of hoarding because I choose to require this contribution in kind for my work, yet not look at companies like Microsoft or Apple the same way, is simply hypocritical. I don't criticize Microsoft for not letting me steal the source code for some app of theirs and integrate it into mine. Who are they, then, to call my work "tainted" or "viral"?
I doubt that many GPL people see it this way, though, that is, the parity between GPL and any other company.
I have bought games after pirating them because I liked them so much, but generally only in cases where the game didn't offer a significant demo (most games have very little in it). I'd say if there's a big enough demo (like yours) and I still haven't bought it by the end I'm unlikely to do so (but then I'm also unlikely to pirate the full version)
Steam is nice because it finds a way to have DRM add value in addition to taking it away. If you have the account, you can play it on another computer. (Just /please/ don't make people be online any time they want to play, that's freakin' annoying on flights and trips and such)
I also suggest that you make a solemn guarantee to customers that having bought the game they will be able to play it forever. This is my single biggest deciding factor in allowing DRM.
That's not to say I completely agree with what you're doing here, but I think it's a decent compromise given the difficult position you're in.
Your source contradicts the Slashdot summary. Therefore, it must be false. Therefore, you are wrong.
Slashdot cannot err.
You gen the key in a VM...I thought everyone knew that.
They interact with systems for which you don't have the code.
No it's clearly soulless pirates who are worse than the scum that steal candy from crippled blind penniless orphaned cute puppies. Studies have shown that the total cost of piracy over $180 trillion dollars per day in North Dakota alone. Doesn't have anything to do with this "recession" the liberals keep trying to pretend is happening.
But yes, when prices go up and/or willingness to spend goes down, people start cutting luxuries. For some, it's buying music. For others, it's obtaining new music. It's called market forces and the RIAA is going to have to learn to deal with it sooner or later.
Arguably by making it easy to find you make it easy to avoid.
Yeah, some friends and I have a student run store at our college, and we import a lot of food from Mexico to avoid corn syrup. Aside from the higher caloric content per sweetness, I don't know of conclusive evidence it's worse for you (aside from mercury contamination), but boy does it taste worse.
Ironic isn't it? Paying more to buy Mexican products because they're higher quality.
Yeah, I feel the same way about Big Corn and their fucking syrup they put in everything to make it taste like shit. The problem is that these guys are so entrenched in our political economy that any politician that opposes them will find himself the subject of baby-eating allegations on TV.
private messages? Who you look at? etc
Depends on the department, some places it goes smooth as clockwork. That's your clue you didn't ask for anything unpatriotic or counterrevolutionary.
I wouldn't phrase it as abuse, since they are under the caps they were sold at the time. I'd use a less loaded word. We can fight over whether it's accurate or not but it will make your customers dislike you less and doing so for free is worth losing a few ego points.
Well the traffic shaping based on type (eg P2P) is questionably legal, though we don't really know for sure either way since Comcrap backed down before it went to court.
You mean the ability to reinstall without limits or activation bullshit just for single player? They found a "solution" to that "bug";)
Wait...if I gave the TSA the TPS reports...then who got my CP of the boss's kid? FUCK!
Is this really that hard to fool? It sounds like a useragent issu to me, just like faking Windows IE for Napster.
"with President Obama even *more* firmly in the pocket of the big media companies than Bush was"
Citation needed. Unless you're referring to Biden in which case I concede the point;P
I mean, I can see the argument here as to why it should be illegal given the laws as written. From my CS perspective, they're aiding in transmission of a file.
I think it's time for darknets.
Roses are red,
Violets are blue,
OP is flaimbait,
but so are you.
Are you sure? I thought the issue with software like Requiem under DMCA was that you couldn't distribute legally. But possession, creation, and use were all legal.
In any case it's a moot point. Requiem will soon be obsolete with iTunes going DRM free.
This and Hulu make me very happy. It takes a bit longer to download than bittorrent, but I don't find the ads obtrusive (so short), the quality is good enough for me, and the option to stream live is handy.
I imagine they don't like you downloading it but sometimes I don't have tubes, and as the commercials aren't annoying I don't bother removing them.
Now if only they carried programming I liked more...and here we are:-)
Try openerdns.org
Freedom of speech is very important, but there are exceptions. For example, we don't have the right to watch child porn in a crowded theatre, because that would harm children.
We don't have the right to hijack music vessels on the high seas because it would harm the corporate interests that sheltered us when we were still huddled around dark fires, marveling at shadows on the cave wall.
I fully support OpenDNS's sensible actions, or "sens-orship", as I like to call it. Surely we can trust any corporation with "open" in the title to control our minds in a way we will soon be programmed to approve of.