No, they have the right to distribute the songs, thus their copyright. It is that right to being the sole distributor that is being infringed.
How do you define ownership of the song? Ownership of anything is determined as the right of title. The RIAA does have the right of title, when the title of artistic works is the copyright.
Here's another way. Support politicians and groups that want to change copyright. If enough people begin to support the idea of changing the copyright law, it would very likely scare RIAA.
I don't want to change copyright law. I think it is ok with how it is now. Maybe reduce the term, but it sits very well with me. Patent law is a different story.
How do you plan on convincing other people that copyrights shouldn't be there? Information doesn't want to be free, it doesn't have desires. The people who produce information decide how it gets distributed. Copyright was established, and maintains it's establishment due to majority rules.
RIAA has the right of ownership to the songs. A person distributes through a P2P, which according to copyright law requires ownership or title to do so. Therefor, the person aquired possession of the ownership and distribution rights without permission of the rightful owners (RIAA.)
Ergo, distributing songs in which you do not have ownership from is in fact stealing.
That was a lot of fun.. I'm a touch too bored right now.
Is when the United States had the right to authorize business entitities to enforce the law. Is that really the country you want to live in? A country where any company can subpoena you?
Ok, lets clear up the water just a bit. A subpoena is this: A writ requiring appearance in court to give testimony. Anybody can subpoena information, with a court signature. If I file a lawsuit against you, you will be subpoenad.
The United States authorized business and persons to enfore the law when it introduced civil law. The RIAA isn't sending anybody to jail. The RIAA is enforcing civil law, which is within their rights as copyright holders. This is granted to everybody, not just companies. I have copyrights, just like virtually everybody else.
To sum this up:
The people being sued had 1,000+ songs for download, with a most likely intent to violate copyright laws.
The RIAA holds those copyrights, and has every right to protect the value of the copyright.
The RIAA, with the exception of the vast number of subpoenas issued, is following the standard procedures in the law.
This law has been around longer than the RIAA.
When the RIAA sued Napster, et al. you all said, "Sue the filesharers, not the company!" After they did that, you objected to that saying it was unconstitutional, etc. Do me a favor: Remember what you said a year ago, and stick with your convictions. You said it, they did it. Deal with it.
Here are ways to help not support the RIAA, and not seem like a total jackass:
Purchase USED CDs from RIAA labels only.
Purchase music produced from non-RIAA labels.
Stop violating copyright law, because it gives the RIAA more legal power.
That just means you aren't the target market. The thing that you get with the iPod is decent storage space, decent hardware, and really great system integration.
It is pricey, but so are Plasma TVs. If it's out of your price range, it isn't for you. It's for the millions of people who do buy them. It's ok to not want to buy something, for whatever reasons. I have an Archos mp3 player, it has 6GB of storage. It has good battery life, it's integration is mediocre and it's footprint is fairly large. It still works perfectly fine for me, as it's just a USB hard drive and I don't need iTunes to listen to music.
The iPod isn't for me. I'm ok with that.
I don't need to post a comment bitching about something I'm not going to buy, though. But, if everybody didn't do that there would only be about 15 comments under this story.
You need to be pretty gullible to think that Microsoft would settle any case they thought they could win.
A lengthy trial brings in negative press, lawyer fees, and other expenses that can easily go into the several millions. My guess is they figured that the $23M was a cheaper route than taking it to trial.
They could have just used Linux if they wanted an alternative but now they realize that companies like SCO are in Linux picture so they want something of their own.....
Or maybe Linux is a kernel, and not an operating system. Then, they can use the Linux kernel and build an entire operating system on top of it.
I have very basic html knowledge, which gets me by in most situations. Try reading the first response to my original post, and my response to it. No need to insult me for an honest mistake.
An honest mistake is confusing something within the scope of your knowledge. What you did is not an honest mistake. It's an ignorant, idiotic mistake. Admitting that not everybody on Slashdot is a programmer, after trying to say something is something it isn't, just proves you are an idiot.
I'm not insulting you, I'm labelling you. There is a difference. My monitor is black. You are an idiot. Same thing.
Sorry, not everyone on/. is a programmer, you know.
Ok, let me review here. You pop-off that you know the webpage is static because it's "not java and just text", then say not everybody here is a programmer when someone tells you a few ways in which you are wrong.
You just proved yourself to be an idiot. That was amazing.
Now that's the cover tactic: Attempting to pull readers away from the irony of your English kabosh.
Everything I wrote reads in proper English. So, I ask you what type of error was it? I don't even think you know exactly what type of error it classifies itself. Seldom do I actually write in a manner that is correct, at least in that regard.
You see why? Because English is dynamic. But it isn't idiotic. Sorry to burst your little bubble, sparky.
Your lack of originality shows your weakness. SCO called, they want their post back.
Does it serve you well to mirror what I say?
Is it? Please fix your Perl script. Ironically, it doesn't have all the in's and out's of the English langauge yet.
What's a langauge? Oh, haha, I crack myself up! See, I'm trying your tactic here. Being a fucking retard and just repeating what you say back at you. Pee-Wee Herman would be proud of you, son.
So fix this: http://www.nerdfarm.org/nf/Portal/Forums
Nope, I'm at work. That's a personal project. I can sit here and tell you that you are an idiot, but not work on my personal projects that don't benefit work in some way.
Obviously, quality color is in the eye of the beholder..
Blue on Blue on Blue is ugly. Period. Use a color harmony tool.
I feel for you.. How can you not do anything better in 30 minutes than reply to Slashdot posts?
Because it's remarkably fun telling you that you are an idiot in each post and having you still respond.
Life, enjoy it. It occurs outside the computer world as well.
Yes, but when I'm stuck in a cube waiting for someone to finish up some code there isn't much else to do than point out the idiots on slashdot who don't have better things to do but claim they do.
Those who don't, admit it. Like me. I don't have anything better to do right now. I wish I did. 30 minutes isn't enough to do much other than make fun of you and play chess.
If you think so, but you'll never find the following posted by me in a public forum:
Confusing forgetfullness and idiocy is a very silly thing.
You should try to understand the difference, you will get further in life. At least my website isn't an affront to all that is good and holy in the world. Tone down your colors, get off shitty weblog software, and learn English.
Keep saying virii guys, once it becomes the 'standard' way of saying viruses, no document (or group of Perl programmers crying) on Earth will change the fact that virii is plural for virus.
No, it is just going to make you look like an idiot.
I'd rather spend 10 hours screwing with my computer than 15 at my crap min-wage job. Not everyone's got a nice side gig while we're at school, ya know.
Then why the hell would you need Exchange if you are in school? Do you really need an appointment and calendaring system for all of your busy corporate meetings while in university?
The reason why there is only a commercial plugin is because it's used for work places, and people who work there that can write it get paid more than it would be worth.
I have 57 movie channels. I have 300 something other channels. I would like to record movies, and in the article (which I'm sure you read) you can edit and record to DVD.
Are you following this?
No? Well, then I don't think this device is for you, but thank you for your comment showing that it isn't for you.
all we need is to be able to actually buy the damn thing outside of japan!!
If you are serious, I'll be going soon, and know quite a few people over there. If you want I can get one shipped over. It will most likely (read: most definitely) be in Japanese though, so you can either hack the language pack yourself or learn Japanese:)
When you get older or wiser, you might face situations, where you are being immoral by some points of views. There is no black or white. Some basic rights always remain.
The sign of believing in rights and wrongs is the sign of immaturity and not accepting that life doesn't adhere to human imposed rules.
I do not subscribe to it. I think a moral person should respect the rights of others wherever at all possible.
Bingo! And when a person who is immoral removes "human rights", they are no longer worthy of those rights.
A moral human deserves all rights, but life isn't fair and they are not rights. They are always privledges. There is no such thing as right or wrong, nor an unalienable right. There is just life, and looking out for what is best and paying the consequences for your actions.
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Actually, the public owns the songs not the music labels.
Uh... what? Care to back this claim up? The public doesn't own jack shit of what I create, in any form. Even what I release under the GPL.
No, they have the right to distribute the songs, thus their copyright. It is that right to being the sole distributor that is being infringed.
How do you define ownership of the song? Ownership of anything is determined as the right of title. The RIAA does have the right of title, when the title of artistic works is the copyright.
Here's another way. Support politicians and groups that want to change copyright. If enough people begin to support the idea of changing the copyright law, it would very likely scare RIAA.
I don't want to change copyright law. I think it is ok with how it is now. Maybe reduce the term, but it sits very well with me. Patent law is a different story.
How do you plan on convincing other people that copyrights shouldn't be there? Information doesn't want to be free, it doesn't have desires. The people who produce information decide how it gets distributed. Copyright was established, and maintains it's establishment due to majority rules.
Deal with it, it isn't going anywhere.
Here's some logic, following dictionary.com.
Property, definition 2: The right of ownership; title.
Steal, definition 1: To take (the property of another) without right or permission.
Take, verb, definition 1: To acquire possession.
RIAA has the right of ownership to the songs. A person distributes through a P2P, which according to copyright law requires ownership or title to do so. Therefor, the person aquired possession of the ownership and distribution rights without permission of the rightful owners (RIAA.)
Ergo, distributing songs in which you do not have ownership from is in fact stealing.
That was a lot of fun.. I'm a touch too bored right now.
Ok, lets clear up the water just a bit. A subpoena is this: A writ requiring appearance in court to give testimony. Anybody can subpoena information, with a court signature. If I file a lawsuit against you, you will be subpoenad.
The United States authorized business and persons to enfore the law when it introduced civil law. The RIAA isn't sending anybody to jail. The RIAA is enforcing civil law, which is within their rights as copyright holders. This is granted to everybody, not just companies. I have copyrights, just like virtually everybody else.
To sum this up:
When the RIAA sued Napster, et al. you all said, "Sue the filesharers, not the company!" After they did that, you objected to that saying it was unconstitutional, etc. Do me a favor: Remember what you said a year ago, and stick with your convictions. You said it, they did it. Deal with it.
Here are ways to help not support the RIAA, and not seem like a total jackass:
That just means you aren't the target market. The thing that you get with the iPod is decent storage space, decent hardware, and really great system integration.
It is pricey, but so are Plasma TVs. If it's out of your price range, it isn't for you. It's for the millions of people who do buy them. It's ok to not want to buy something, for whatever reasons. I have an Archos mp3 player, it has 6GB of storage. It has good battery life, it's integration is mediocre and it's footprint is fairly large. It still works perfectly fine for me, as it's just a USB hard drive and I don't need iTunes to listen to music.
The iPod isn't for me. I'm ok with that.
I don't need to post a comment bitching about something I'm not going to buy, though. But, if everybody didn't do that there would only be about 15 comments under this story.
You need to be pretty gullible to think that Microsoft would settle any case they thought they could win.
A lengthy trial brings in negative press, lawyer fees, and other expenses that can easily go into the several millions. My guess is they figured that the $23M was a cheaper route than taking it to trial.
They could have just used Linux if they wanted an alternative but now they realize that companies like SCO are in Linux picture so they want something of their own.....
Or maybe Linux is a kernel, and not an operating system. Then, they can use the Linux kernel and build an entire operating system on top of it.
Or just use BSD. Er, excuse me, I meant OSX.
How do you type a capital-two?
I have very basic html knowledge, which gets me by in most situations. Try reading the first response to my original post, and my response to it. No need to insult me for an honest mistake.
An honest mistake is confusing something within the scope of your knowledge. What you did is not an honest mistake. It's an ignorant, idiotic mistake. Admitting that not everybody on Slashdot is a programmer, after trying to say something is something it isn't, just proves you are an idiot.
I'm not insulting you, I'm labelling you. There is a difference. My monitor is black. You are an idiot. Same thing.
Sorry, not everyone on /. is a programmer, you know.
Ok, let me review here. You pop-off that you know the webpage is static because it's "not java and just text", then say not everybody here is a programmer when someone tells you a few ways in which you are wrong.
You just proved yourself to be an idiot. That was amazing.
Now that's the cover tactic: Attempting to pull readers away from the irony of your English kabosh.
Everything I wrote reads in proper English. So, I ask you what type of error was it? I don't even think you know exactly what type of error it classifies itself. Seldom do I actually write in a manner that is correct, at least in that regard.
You see why? Because English is dynamic. But it isn't idiotic. Sorry to burst your little bubble, sparky.
Your lack of originality shows your weakness.
SCO called, they want their post back.
Does it serve you well to mirror what I say?
Is it? Please fix your Perl script. Ironically, it doesn't have all the in's and out's of the English langauge yet.
What's a langauge? Oh, haha, I crack myself up! See, I'm trying your tactic here. Being a fucking retard and just repeating what you say back at you. Pee-Wee Herman would be proud of you, son.
You have to use a tool to decide what you like? Or do you assume I set it up asking myself what others would think?
I am color deficient, and even I know that your website is an affront to all that is Good and Pure. 1997 called, they want their layout back.
You obviously haven't noticed the genius of my subject. It applies infinitely. Therefore, I can respond infinitely.
And you can be replaced by a very small perl script. Of course, so can I. But then again, that's my point.
And having been in the workforce more than a year, I can have just as much fun dealing with the childish.
I'm sure you can, after all it's easy when you dole out happy meals?
So fix this:
http://www.nerdfarm.org/nf/Portal/Forums
Nope, I'm at work. That's a personal project. I can sit here and tell you that you are an idiot, but not work on my personal projects that don't benefit work in some way.
Obviously, quality color is in the eye of the beholder..
Blue on Blue on Blue is ugly. Period. Use a color harmony tool.
I feel for you.. How can you not do anything better in 30 minutes than reply to Slashdot posts?
Because it's remarkably fun telling you that you are an idiot in each post and having you still respond.
Please. You CA's are way too high strung.
CA? What the hell is a CA?
Life, enjoy it. It occurs outside the computer world as well.
Yes, but when I'm stuck in a cube waiting for someone to finish up some code there isn't much else to do than point out the idiots on slashdot who don't have better things to do but claim they do.
Those who don't, admit it. Like me. I don't have anything better to do right now. I wish I did. 30 minutes isn't enough to do much other than make fun of you and play chess.
If you think so, but you'll never find the following posted by me in a public forum:
Confusing forgetfullness and idiocy is a very silly thing.
You should try to understand the difference, you will get further in life. At least my website isn't an affront to all that is good and holy in the world. Tone down your colors, get off shitty weblog software, and learn English.
I think I speak for everybody when I say, "Uh, what?"
Keep saying virii guys, once it becomes the 'standard' way of saying viruses, no document (or group of Perl programmers crying) on Earth will change the fact that virii is plural for virus.
No, it is just going to make you look like an idiot.
Thank you, drive through.
I'd rather spend 10 hours screwing with my computer than 15 at my crap min-wage job. Not everyone's got a nice side gig while we're at school, ya know.
Then why the hell would you need Exchange if you are in school? Do you really need an appointment and calendaring system for all of your busy corporate meetings while in university?
The reason why there is only a commercial plugin is because it's used for work places, and people who work there that can write it get paid more than it would be worth.
57 channels and nothing on...
I have 57 movie channels. I have 300 something other channels. I would like to record movies, and in the article (which I'm sure you read) you can edit and record to DVD.
Are you following this?
No? Well, then I don't think this device is for you, but thank you for your comment showing that it isn't for you.
all we need is to be able to actually buy the damn thing outside of japan!!
:)
If you are serious, I'll be going soon, and know quite a few people over there. If you want I can get one shipped over. It will most likely (read: most definitely) be in Japanese though, so you can either hack the language pack yourself or learn Japanese
When you get older or wiser, you might face situations, where you are being immoral by some points of views. There is no black or white. Some basic rights always remain.
The sign of believing in rights and wrongs is the sign of immaturity and not accepting that life doesn't adhere to human imposed rules.
In other words, I think the same for you.
I do not subscribe to it. I think a moral person should respect the rights of others wherever at all possible.
Bingo! And when a person who is immoral removes "human rights", they are no longer worthy of those rights.
A moral human deserves all rights, but life isn't fair and they are not rights. They are always privledges. There is no such thing as right or wrong, nor an unalienable right. There is just life, and looking out for what is best and paying the consequences for your actions.
Let those who reap what the sow continue reaping.
There are a few that are pretty good. The Harvest Bars can be good, the double choc. chip is my favorite. Avoid Banana Nut however.