Unalienable rights, mister! That your aunt was killed did not take the human rights of the criminal away.
Wrong. I say it does, and so does reality. Cry me a river. There is no unalienable right, there is only power and perversion of power. Nobody has a right to anything, but you all think you do. Life doesn't give anybody rights, life isn't fair, it simply is. The way the system works now, criminals are treated like animals.
And I agree with that treatment, sorry if you don't. Like I said before, fuck 'em all. If they didn't want to get beaten like a dog and raped, they wouldn't have committed the crime. Nobody forced them to be criminals. Fine with me they go to pound-em-in-the-ass prison.
NOT. Human rights mean just that. Every human has these rights. EVERY HUMAN. Not just your aunt, not just you not just Americans. Even criminals, even mass murderers have human rights.
Sorry, they took someone elses human rights and they don't get theirs anymore. It's a pennance. A fine. If I steal your money, I don't get to keep it. I pay a fine.
If a convicted criminal gets a prison term, his freedom is taken from him as punishment, not his Human Rights as such.
I'm glad you feel so well about it. How many family members have you had that have been murdered?
What this gentleman didn't consider is that most of us would prefer to spend $20-$40 on a videogame we would play for weeks, than $20-$40 to go to a movie for 2 hours and have a bag of popcorn.
Most new games are $50. Most movies are $7.50 - $9.00 a ticket. I can see 4 movies by myself, and still have money left over for food. Or, I can not be a loser and take the misses with me and see 2 movies with food.
That amounts to 4-5 hours of entertainment (if you pick the movie right), shared with a close person.
Or I spent $50 on a game, which may or may not suck. May or may not play well on my computer. Or if it's a console, may just not play well, period. While having my SO nag me for spending too much time gaming.
Yeah... guess which one gets my time? I have an XBox with Apex racing. When I finish Apex racing, I'll buy another game. I watch more movies, because that's a "Social" event. Make the games as fun as you want, I'll still see 5-6 more movies in the span that I buy a game. I reckon I'm not alone in this either.
Yeah, well some asshole murdered my aunt because she walked into her house while he was burgalarizing it.
Fuck his human rights. His 5 year old son was outside in the car waiting for him to finish. That's great fathering. They are criminals who are being punished. When a kid gets grounded, do you cry about his rights?
This just pisses me off when I read about people who cry for the criminals. Let them fucking rot.
(I'm talking of violent criminals, murders and rapists, btw.)
Web Based? In C? This is why amateur programmers don't do large scale projects.
It is a fairly simple procedure, but if you don't know about code why don't you stop telling people to do it themselves. It's obviously outside of your grasp, and if you think that 1,000 lines of C code could come close I'll pay you a dollar a line to come up with a complete P2P book selling server with client software that is cross platform.
Funny, my wife has no problems using Windows 2000 to read and type Chinese on her computer. Previous versions certainly sucked (I have first hand experience on this having lived in Taiwan for 5 years and had to set up both Linux and Windows computers. And until a few years ago getting it working under Linux was no walk in the park) but the support for the very large variety of input methods for Chinese is pretty impressive.
I think Chinese is the best so far under Windows. Japanese under Windows is pretty lacking, and Linux currently beats it out (using jserver, freewnn) and Mac OSX is the leader.
I have a Taiwanese coworker who was struggling to setup Chinese (Traditional) input on his Windows machine. It took him about 3 days to get everything working smoothly, but he'd never added Chinese input to a US windows install.
I would welcome an operating system that is secure, efficient, has a decent UI and has great internationalization.
Working together might be an intelligent thing to do (except for the problem of everyone speaking different languages -- I sure as hell would not ever want to run any tri-national coding project).
My guess is that most of the people involved speak technical English. At least enough to keep the project going.
But I think you are underestimating national pride and how much everybody hates the Japanese over there. It could be a Japanese originated PR-type thing. Reading the article, I notice that it is Japanese Government ministers announcing the project.
Granted, South Korea has some bitter feelings. Especially amongst the older generation. Saying that everybody hates Japan is just fucking idiotic. You are just another Slashdotter who likes to refer to "The Island of Japan" as some mysterious place with 50 foot robots that blow up Tokyo and is filled with blue haired school girls. Please, shut the fuck up about Japan because you obviously don't have a clue as to what you are talking about.
Agreement is "seen as likely." What the hell do they mean by that? It sounds like the classic Japanese government made-up project.
In case you haven't noticed, a lot of the trade projects work. Especially the tech projects.
Now, if this were the bureaucracies pushing it instead of the politicians, there would be some real power behind the idea. But you have to remember the character of Japanese government.
Wouldn't the Trade Ministry be considered a bureaucracy?
If Japan were really planning on doing this, they would do it themselves. China would as well, I believe. I wonder who is really behind this effort?
Why in the world would you possibly think that? There are many, many reasons why they would want to do this together. China has cheap programmers, first. Japan and China have very good computer science people. And yes, there is a purpose for that distinction. The CS people develop the innovative portions of the system, and the programmers write the code that makes it all work.
Just for the language support alone it benefits both Japan and China to work together to try to replace the buggy Chinese/Japanese character input systems available. I'm not too familiar with the Windows end, but the Linux jserver/freewnn line is good but far from perfect or ideal.
How did you get modded interesting? "I wonder who is really behind this effort?" Uhm, Japan, China, and South Korea. Take the tinfoil hat off boy.
My 11 year old daughter knows that there is "naqughty words" out there. but she also knows that using them is a sign of low overall IQ or just merely the fact that the person spouting them has run out of smart things to say.
Oh, this is just utter bullshit. The usage of profanity in no way reflects the intelligence or linguistic acumen. Just because it's more comfortable for you to group people who use swear words into an inferior position doesn't mean it's true. It is a sign of your own lacking intellect, as clear as day.
Profanity in it's self is truely the last resort of a person that is at the limit of their mential abilities.
Or perhaps it's because they make usage of a more creative path in the language that you don't agree with. The only sign of intellect is knowing when to properly use profanity and when it is inappropriate.
It's overall called teaching manners. something that Americans are massively missing and getting worse every day.
You really need to travel outside the US more. Every culture has their own rudeness to it.
This is exactly true. I'm not a big gamer, but I enjoy playing BF1942 and any good racing simulator. I just picked up Apex and it's good, but the driving falls short of GT3.
Mix that up with an MMORPG, and you have something exceptionally cool. For example, some people really like the tuning aspect of racing games and testing out their modifications on cars. Setup a MMORPG with teams that have drivers, managers of the car company (business simulator, etc.), and mechanics who can design new cars and take them on the test track.
This would be really cool, and amazingly complex. There isn't a way to create a game of that depth without it being complex.
Now, half the shit that comes out is so needlessly complex because the game writers can't think of a proper way to include fun so they make you push more buttons so you play the game longer. That's the type of complexity that just drives me fucking nuts.
I was borrowing a PS2 with Gran Turismo 3 A-Spec. The "simulation" mode was awfully tedious. They give you a certain amount of money and then ask you to pick a car. They don't have the decency of narrowing it down to what you can afford, so the player has to go through dozens of screenfuls of rediculously priced cars to find one that is affordable. After a couple races of that, I gave up and went to arcade mode.
I have to parrot what UnknownSoldier was saying. GT3 is not an arcade racer. It's simulation mode is for people who know about cars, and know about racing. It's virtually impossible to actually do well on that game without tuning the hell out of your cars (After your A License anyway)
The car prices are reflecting reality in there as well, so if you have $20K than you only have a few choices of what brands you can buy. It's not a design flaw, just the way people expect it to go.
Apex for the XBox may be more suited to your tastes if you like racing games, but not the true "racing simulators." It's quite a bit of fun, and you don't need to worry about so many things.
This is a piece of software that uses a P2P communication protocol.
Slight nitpick: it isn't completely P2P. It is similar to the original Napster to find out who is online.
MS incurs no cost to "maintain this network/service". The only costs they incur are in the maintenance and improvement of thier client. Just like MS Office.
Mostly agreed. The bandwidth/CPU utilization for managing who is online and who has access to what isn't that intense, but it is there. If it were 100% P2P, than I would agree 100%.
I think it's Microsofts decision, really. It is their protocol, and if they want to only allow a proprietary protocol it's their decision. It doesn't mean I agree with it, nor do I think it is "right". Right in the sense that I would do it, if I were involved, that is.
Parrotting the me too sentiment. If the software knows it's being stolen, I think it's a touch silly to phone home. Unless it is some enterprise server or something, at which point it is probably a business running it.
Software that queries the internet to ensure unique serial numbers are fine, as long as internet access is required for the application to work (like Blizzard games, for multiplayer.) However, it would be rather annoying otherwise.
* Perhaps the user had the software installed by a friend and didn't know it was pirated. A 30 day warning doesn't assume guilt.
This I actually really like. It turns any software that uses this method into trialware. It may not be what the company expected, but it would be an amazing feature that would probably net sales. If you use a piece of software for 30 days, that is really nice you will probably be more inclined to buy it legit.
I did go to college (we call it university) and I understand this: I most certainly would not have had that crap on my computer. The only programs you actually use for school are a wordprocesser and a browser, neither of which require Microsoft software. If I can get software that isn't a virus magnet for free, to protect my valuable term papers, it's a no brainer.
That's you, and you are on Slashdot. College/Uni staff has no right to say what operating system to use as long as it satisfies the students needs. You can enforce patching.
It's about choice. Everybody gets one. Not just the l33t l1nux users.
I cant beleive that the guy said that linux is about suse and redhat . SuSe linux is surpased by a number of distributions out there. I am just shocked that SuSe would say that . I mean there are many many linux distributions out there and from a whole sort of community prespective SuSe is fairly low.
Companies. He's talking about companies. Name 3 companies that produce Linux. Red Hat, SuSE and Mandrake.
You also have apparently not used SuSE much, nor read all the articles about how popular it really is. It's the Red Hat of Europe, and Mandrake is taking all the scraps on the US and European markets.
So why don't you ban M$ computers? Surely, you have better things to do with your time and school money than support Microsoft's broken shit.
Because they are students computers. When you start going to college, you'll understand this.
With the kind of time and resources you have, you could have every one of those computers running Debian in a week. Yes, I imagine one peroson can sit over 3 or 4 hand installs an hour, just like I can. Practice makes perfect and you are sure to get better than that. Oh well, good luck.
College. Students. They don't give a fuck about Linux. Why is it so hard for you to understand that some people like Windows?
It's funny that you get modded up in every story by posting mirrors, is that the new form of karma-whoring? Not that I mind, I enjoy having alternates. I'm just curious if that's your motivation or if you honestly care about the masses?
And today they asssasinated somebody, which broke the ceasefire.
I'm thinking the 20 dead Israelis broke the cease-fire.
I've yet to see Israelis strike first, but if you have any links feel free to provide them. Just from what I've seen, it's been over the top retaliation.
I don't agree with the Palestinian suicide bombings, but all the evidence that I've seen suggests that Israel poses a far more immediate threat to most Palestinians than Iraq ever posed to the US; so if we're going to complain about killing civilians, let's start at home.
I'm pretty sure that Israelis wouldn't fuck with anybody if people stopped blowing them up. I've never lived there, but talked to quite a few people who have, and have family members and that seems to be a general consensus amongst them.
That should be their new slogan, "Stop blowing us up and we'll stop taking your land."
Apprently you care more about appearance then substance. Ok I guess that's cool. I think it's stupid but what the hell that's just me.
So do you, and don't try to say that you don't. If a very dirty, poor, homeless man is screaming, barely intelligibly, do you try to listen to what he says? What if he has the cure for cancer and no one is listening?
Presentation does matter. When you go to a job interview, do you wear pajamas?
I don't care how they write. I care if they are honest, think before they act, and act from long-range adherence to principle instead of from pragmatism or simple expediency.
Exactly it. I expect honesty. I find it hard to believe that in her circle of people she writes documents like, "These companies just care about $$$." I expect to be treated as if I was an equal. This entails being spoken to like I am outside of a demographic. Appealing to an audience consisting of a lot of people spouting off about "(M$|$CO) is teh suck!" doesn't mean that is how you show your geek heritage.
I just expect them to talk like a reasonable adult, and I don't feel she did that at all.
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Indeed, and a self-parking car has just been announced in Japan.
Have you ever tried to park in Japan? This goes hand in hand with the expression, "Necessity is the mother of invention."
Unalienable rights, mister! That your aunt was killed did not take the human rights of the criminal away.
Wrong. I say it does, and so does reality. Cry me a river. There is no unalienable right, there is only power and perversion of power. Nobody has a right to anything, but you all think you do. Life doesn't give anybody rights, life isn't fair, it simply is. The way the system works now, criminals are treated like animals.
And I agree with that treatment, sorry if you don't. Like I said before, fuck 'em all. If they didn't want to get beaten like a dog and raped, they wouldn't have committed the crime. Nobody forced them to be criminals. Fine with me they go to pound-em-in-the-ass prison.
NOT. Human rights mean just that. Every human has these rights. EVERY HUMAN. Not just your aunt, not just you not just Americans. Even criminals, even mass murderers have human rights.
Sorry, they took someone elses human rights and they don't get theirs anymore. It's a pennance. A fine. If I steal your money, I don't get to keep it. I pay a fine.
If a convicted criminal gets a prison term, his freedom is taken from him as punishment, not his Human Rights as such.
I'm glad you feel so well about it. How many family members have you had that have been murdered?
What this gentleman didn't consider is that most of us would prefer to spend $20-$40 on a videogame we would play for weeks, than $20-$40 to go to a movie for 2 hours and have a bag of popcorn.
Most new games are $50. Most movies are $7.50 - $9.00 a ticket. I can see 4 movies by myself, and still have money left over for food. Or, I can not be a loser and take the misses with me and see 2 movies with food.
That amounts to 4-5 hours of entertainment (if you pick the movie right), shared with a close person.
Or I spent $50 on a game, which may or may not suck. May or may not play well on my computer. Or if it's a console, may just not play well, period. While having my SO nag me for spending too much time gaming.
Yeah... guess which one gets my time? I have an XBox with Apex racing. When I finish Apex racing, I'll buy another game. I watch more movies, because that's a "Social" event. Make the games as fun as you want, I'll still see 5-6 more movies in the span that I buy a game. I reckon I'm not alone in this either.
I think she takes care of that: She's the director of the XBox Advanced Technology Group.
You don't have to worry about hardware, just part with $179.99 and buy an XBox.
Yeah, well some asshole murdered my aunt because she walked into her house while he was burgalarizing it.
Fuck his human rights. His 5 year old son was outside in the car waiting for him to finish. That's great fathering. They are criminals who are being punished. When a kid gets grounded, do you cry about his rights?
This just pisses me off when I read about people who cry for the criminals. Let them fucking rot.
(I'm talking of violent criminals, murders and rapists, btw.)
The dictionary is your friend, and it doesn't make you wait 20 seconds to see your result.
Web Based? In C? This is why amateur programmers don't do large scale projects.
It is a fairly simple procedure, but if you don't know about code why don't you stop telling people to do it themselves. It's obviously outside of your grasp, and if you think that 1,000 lines of C code could come close I'll pay you a dollar a line to come up with a complete P2P book selling server with client software that is cross platform.
Funny, my wife has no problems using Windows 2000 to read and type Chinese on her computer. Previous versions certainly sucked (I have first hand experience on this having lived in Taiwan for 5 years and had to set up both Linux and Windows computers. And until a few years ago getting it working under Linux was no walk in the park) but the support for the very large variety of input methods for Chinese is pretty impressive.
I think Chinese is the best so far under Windows. Japanese under Windows is pretty lacking, and Linux currently beats it out (using jserver, freewnn) and Mac OSX is the leader.
I have a Taiwanese coworker who was struggling to setup Chinese (Traditional) input on his Windows machine. It took him about 3 days to get everything working smoothly, but he'd never added Chinese input to a US windows install.
I would welcome an operating system that is secure, efficient, has a decent UI and has great internationalization.
Working together might be an intelligent thing to do (except for the problem of everyone speaking different languages -- I sure as hell would not ever want to run any tri-national coding project).
My guess is that most of the people involved speak technical English. At least enough to keep the project going.
But I think you are underestimating national pride and how much everybody hates the Japanese over there. It could be a Japanese originated PR-type thing. Reading the article, I notice that it is Japanese Government ministers announcing the project.
Granted, South Korea has some bitter feelings. Especially amongst the older generation. Saying that everybody hates Japan is just fucking idiotic. You are just another Slashdotter who likes to refer to "The Island of Japan" as some mysterious place with 50 foot robots that blow up Tokyo and is filled with blue haired school girls. Please, shut the fuck up about Japan because you obviously don't have a clue as to what you are talking about.
Agreement is "seen as likely." What the hell do they mean by that? It sounds like the classic Japanese government made-up project.
In case you haven't noticed, a lot of the trade projects work. Especially the tech projects.
Now, if this were the bureaucracies pushing it instead of the politicians, there would be some real power behind the idea. But you have to remember the character of Japanese government.
Wouldn't the Trade Ministry be considered a bureaucracy?
If Japan were really planning on doing this, they would do it themselves. China would as well, I believe. I wonder who is really behind this effort?
Why in the world would you possibly think that? There are many, many reasons why they would want to do this together. China has cheap programmers, first. Japan and China have very good computer science people. And yes, there is a purpose for that distinction. The CS people develop the innovative portions of the system, and the programmers write the code that makes it all work.
Just for the language support alone it benefits both Japan and China to work together to try to replace the buggy Chinese/Japanese character input systems available. I'm not too familiar with the Windows end, but the Linux jserver/freewnn line is good but far from perfect or ideal.
How did you get modded interesting? "I wonder who is really behind this effort?" Uhm, Japan, China, and South Korea. Take the tinfoil hat off boy.
My 11 year old daughter knows that there is "naqughty words" out there. but she also knows that using them is a sign of low overall IQ or just merely the fact that the person spouting them has run out of smart things to say.
Oh, this is just utter bullshit. The usage of profanity in no way reflects the intelligence or linguistic acumen. Just because it's more comfortable for you to group people who use swear words into an inferior position doesn't mean it's true. It is a sign of your own lacking intellect, as clear as day.
Profanity in it's self is truely the last resort of a person that is at the limit of their mential abilities.
Or perhaps it's because they make usage of a more creative path in the language that you don't agree with. The only sign of intellect is knowing when to properly use profanity and when it is inappropriate.
It's overall called teaching manners. something that Americans are massively missing and getting worse every day.
You really need to travel outside the US more. Every culture has their own rudeness to it.
This is exactly true. I'm not a big gamer, but I enjoy playing BF1942 and any good racing simulator. I just picked up Apex and it's good, but the driving falls short of GT3.
Mix that up with an MMORPG, and you have something exceptionally cool. For example, some people really like the tuning aspect of racing games and testing out their modifications on cars. Setup a MMORPG with teams that have drivers, managers of the car company (business simulator, etc.), and mechanics who can design new cars and take them on the test track.
This would be really cool, and amazingly complex. There isn't a way to create a game of that depth without it being complex.
Now, half the shit that comes out is so needlessly complex because the game writers can't think of a proper way to include fun so they make you push more buttons so you play the game longer. That's the type of complexity that just drives me fucking nuts.
I was borrowing a PS2 with Gran Turismo 3 A-Spec. The "simulation" mode was awfully tedious. They give you a certain amount of money and then ask you to pick a car. They don't have the decency of narrowing it down to what you can afford, so the player has to go through dozens of screenfuls of rediculously priced cars to find one that is affordable. After a couple races of that, I gave up and went to arcade mode.
I have to parrot what UnknownSoldier was saying. GT3 is not an arcade racer. It's simulation mode is for people who know about cars, and know about racing. It's virtually impossible to actually do well on that game without tuning the hell out of your cars (After your A License anyway)
The car prices are reflecting reality in there as well, so if you have $20K than you only have a few choices of what brands you can buy. It's not a design flaw, just the way people expect it to go.
Apex for the XBox may be more suited to your tastes if you like racing games, but not the true "racing simulators." It's quite a bit of fun, and you don't need to worry about so many things.
This is a piece of software that uses a P2P communication protocol.
Slight nitpick: it isn't completely P2P. It is similar to the original Napster to find out who is online.
MS incurs no cost to "maintain this network/service". The only costs they incur are in the maintenance and improvement of thier client. Just like MS Office.
Mostly agreed. The bandwidth/CPU utilization for managing who is online and who has access to what isn't that intense, but it is there. If it were 100% P2P, than I would agree 100%.
I think it's Microsofts decision, really. It is their protocol, and if they want to only allow a proprietary protocol it's their decision. It doesn't mean I agree with it, nor do I think it is "right". Right in the sense that I would do it, if I were involved, that is.
Parrotting the me too sentiment. If the software knows it's being stolen, I think it's a touch silly to phone home. Unless it is some enterprise server or something, at which point it is probably a business running it.
Software that queries the internet to ensure unique serial numbers are fine, as long as internet access is required for the application to work (like Blizzard games, for multiplayer.) However, it would be rather annoying otherwise.
* Perhaps the user had the software installed by a friend and didn't know it was pirated. A 30 day warning doesn't assume guilt.
This I actually really like. It turns any software that uses this method into trialware. It may not be what the company expected, but it would be an amazing feature that would probably net sales. If you use a piece of software for 30 days, that is really nice you will probably be more inclined to buy it legit.
I did go to college (we call it university) and I understand this: I most certainly would not have had that crap on my computer. The only programs you actually use for school are a wordprocesser and a browser, neither of which require Microsoft software. If I can get software that isn't a virus magnet for free, to protect my valuable term papers, it's a no brainer.
That's you, and you are on Slashdot. College/Uni staff has no right to say what operating system to use as long as it satisfies the students needs. You can enforce patching.
It's about choice. Everybody gets one. Not just the l33t l1nux users.
I cant beleive that the guy said that linux is about suse and redhat . SuSe linux is surpased by a number of distributions out there. I am just shocked that SuSe would say that . I mean there are many many linux distributions out there and from a whole sort of community prespective SuSe is fairly low .
Companies. He's talking about companies. Name 3 companies that produce Linux. Red Hat, SuSE and Mandrake.
You also have apparently not used SuSE much, nor read all the articles about how popular it really is. It's the Red Hat of Europe, and Mandrake is taking all the scraps on the US and European markets.
So why don't you ban M$ computers? Surely, you have better things to do with your time and school money than support Microsoft's broken shit.
Because they are students computers. When you start going to college, you'll understand this.
With the kind of time and resources you have, you could have every one of those computers running Debian in a week. Yes, I imagine one peroson can sit over 3 or 4 hand installs an hour, just like I can. Practice makes perfect and you are sure to get better than that. Oh well, good luck.
College. Students. They don't give a fuck about Linux. Why is it so hard for you to understand that some people like Windows?
I didn't realize that they had lip augmentation back then.
I just hit it and it was perfectly fine.
It's funny that you get modded up in every story by posting mirrors, is that the new form of karma-whoring? Not that I mind, I enjoy having alternates. I'm just curious if that's your motivation or if you honestly care about the masses?
And today they asssasinated somebody, which broke the ceasefire.
I'm thinking the 20 dead Israelis broke the cease-fire.
I've yet to see Israelis strike first, but if you have any links feel free to provide them. Just from what I've seen, it's been over the top retaliation.
I don't agree with the Palestinian suicide bombings, but all the evidence that I've seen suggests that Israel poses a far more immediate threat to most Palestinians than Iraq ever posed to the US; so if we're going to complain about killing civilians, let's start at home.
I'm pretty sure that Israelis wouldn't fuck with anybody if people stopped blowing them up. I've never lived there, but talked to quite a few people who have, and have family members and that seems to be a general consensus amongst them.
That should be their new slogan, "Stop blowing us up and we'll stop taking your land."
Apprently you care more about appearance then substance. Ok I guess that's cool. I think it's stupid but what the hell that's just me.
So do you, and don't try to say that you don't. If a very dirty, poor, homeless man is screaming, barely intelligibly, do you try to listen to what he says? What if he has the cure for cancer and no one is listening?
Presentation does matter. When you go to a job interview, do you wear pajamas?
I don't care how they write. I care if they are honest, think before they act, and act from long-range adherence to principle instead of from pragmatism or simple expediency.
Exactly it. I expect honesty. I find it hard to believe that in her circle of people she writes documents like, "These companies just care about $$$." I expect to be treated as if I was an equal. This entails being spoken to like I am outside of a demographic. Appealing to an audience consisting of a lot of people spouting off about "(M$|$CO) is teh suck!" doesn't mean that is how you show your geek heritage.
I just expect them to talk like a reasonable adult, and I don't feel she did that at all.