Look up the definition of corrupt. There is nothing corrupt about MS. Antri-Trust laws are wide reaching and broadly defined, so much so that most of the allegations could be applied to _any_ large company, simply because these practices are the way business function. There is nothing inherently corrupt about it.
Its a completely arbitrary amount, that makes it bullshit. MS is hardly corrupt or criminal. MS is successful at marketing and meeting market demands for its products. It is good to the communities (here at least) and good to its employees. An $800M fine because they supplied their media player on their cd's for THEIR operating systems is completely assinine.
I have to agree that the punishment does not equal the crime. Since it is so heavy-handed I have to look at it like the EU wants to punish America, rather than Microsoft for its actions.
Any time an arbitrary amount is handed out like this, there is usually an ulterior motive.
Of course, it should be noted that by and large IT professionals earn more money then most other jobs - which I suppose is once again a warning of money != happiness.
Given that the average IT professional has a college degree, comparing the salary of an IT person with that of a hair dress, plumber or any other trade degree job is comparing apples to oranges. The salaries suck, especially after dumping $100k into your college degree.
I dunno if you should have so many mod points for that one... it was just too damn easy... Its like trying to hit the ground with a dart... you'll never miss.
Ahh, Wrong. If the wings fold up at 90 angles during re-entry, it will reduce the amount of friction on the wings, not increase it. Folding up the wings allows it to accellerate negatively at a slower rate, without having its wings snap off from the force.
This is the most retarded idea I've ever heard of. Why would you want to generate even MORE traffic over your network by actually responding to a DDoS!? The goal of a DDoS attack is to GET your machines to respond to generate traffic!!! Simply RETARDED!
I think the concept shows more that information is incestuous between related websites, rather than outright plagerism. I highly doubt any "good ideas" are publicized on blogs, versus commenting on existing ideas.
What is the point of blogs though? I thought they were to convey some sense of individuality on the old interweb. Instead, in everyone's rush to be some kind of blog king, blogs are forcing people think and express themselves in the same way. Stealing someone's ideas means you can't or don't come up with your own.
There's a school of thought that believes that oil exists on Jupiter, where no organic life has ever existed. This came about when comet shoemaker-levy 9 crashed into Jupiter and created that "big black eye".
If by "open" you mean internal to the company, then yeah, sure. If you mean "open" as in a developer can publish the code on the net, then you're out of your mind.
If all software was free software, no software developer would have a job.
I am neither a developer nor a student, and I don't see the relevance anyway.
This explains everything, thank you.
Software produced in-house, at any company, whether it be as a product or to support interal company systems, is proprietary. If one were to hand it out or publish it online, one would likely be fired.
As for supporting proprietary software to keep myself employed, thats simply nonsense. The OSS movement is mostly comprised of college students, hobbyists and academics, for the obvious reasons that full time software developers need to be paid to write software. The only reason this thread exists at all is because of cluebys like yourself who honestly believe that all software should be OSS and downloadable, which is nonsense.
That being said, OSS movement is a legitimate movement and I myself have dedicated countless hours to it. However, anyone who says that all software should be OSS, money sucks, etc etc (and I'm not pointing solely to you, sydb), is a retard.
I can't (I'm not the OP), but I've certainly seen a study fairly recently (perhaps even linked to from Slashdot) that leaned towards 70% in-house development and 30% commercial development. I'm sure you can verify it if you care enough to google for it.
I hate to be the first to enlighten you, but in-house development is proprietary software. So those statistics do not back up the answer that the majority of software developers are not employed at proprietary software institutions.
I don't see why you are asking that, unless you are going to descend into an ad-hominem "you'll understand when you grow up" argument.
You're still missing the point, which is that human values are -arbitrary- but they are HUMAN VALUES and its only Human Beings which make money worth anything.
Sure, humans provide a value to money. Without humans, there is no physical money on Earth. Thats deep. It still suggests that you have virtually no concept of the economics behind why your snickers bar costs $1.00. Its not that some monkey in management at Mars Corp decides to set a price at $1.00. It is much more complex than that.
Money was invented by humans to fill a void of trading goods and services abstractly. Removing money from the equation of any modern society would produce a complete collapse of the society. Money stabilizes the society.
I have a friend in England who is 5 months pregnant and has just been granted her first ultrasound by the govt. That means that her baby has not been monitored for proper development for 5 months. That is an example of Socialism.
Another example is of the guy who needs a dialysis machine, but since he's 65, he is denied. Why? Well, the socialized system can only afford X dialysis machines so they reject anyone over 60 because they have lived long enough. Thats socialized healthcare.
Guess what happens if you get Cancer in Canada. You move to the United States so you can get Chemo-Therapy. Sure, Canada has cheaper drugs, but they are not the market that provides for the development of new drugs. Do you know what that means? It means that if everyone were like Canada, it would not be profitable for drug companies to develop new drugs. In other words, no new drugs would be developed.
As for Capitalism producing such a poor educational system, lets get back to basics. The current education system is socialized. Yes, you read it correctly, it is a socialized system. Where as the purely capitalistic private schools, such as Phillips Exeter which churns up 75% Ivy League students is not socialized.
So can you explain to me WTF you're talking about?
Western Society has its head so far up its ass that people like you are making such conclusions about money... which in and of itself is USELESS. Its only when some human being puts a value on it that its worth anything at all...
I bolded the relevent section of what you wrote for you. That statement, that money is useless, and that only humans assign values to goods and services, is a rejection of the economic monetary system, regardless of whether you like it or not.
There are plenty of things in the world that have nothing to do with money. For example, child birth, pets, your significant other, your family, etc, etc, etc. On the other hand, if you are broke, you are putting your child at risk for lack of health care, you're starving your dog b/c you won't be able to buy him food and you'll be an economic drain on your next of kin when you borrow money for the arcade.
It is human beings who put values on things - including money. That is all.
Really dooooood?? You're a GENIUS!! Its like... you can't put a value to looove either, man! I always thought that the mice decided the price of my steak and fries, but you really showed me how the world works... Its the humans that decide it all. Its the corporate whitey who oppresses us by making us pay $1.25 for my over-sized Coke, dooood.
Plus, US could learn of couple of things from some of those countries. Think education for instance.
The problem with the education system in the US is two part. The first is the Teachers union breeding inept and lazy teachers. The second is that lack of effort that parents are willing to make to keep track of their students education.
From what I gather you are saying is that teachers should not be paid? How would Socialism produce a better educational system? Teachers in NJ make an average of $60,000/yr. Thats an *excellent* salary given that they work 9 months out of the year! Do they give a rats ass about the students?? BARELY!
No. YOU put food on the table. You make the kids. You put them through school.
You might use money to do that... but money itself DOESN'T DO A DAMN THING.
Western Society has its head so far up its ass that people like you are making such conclusions about money... which in and of itself is USELESS. Its only when some human being puts a value on it that its worth anything at all......
Its only participation in modern American/Western culture that requires the use of money for all things, but in fact... there's a fuck of a lot of very valuable things you can do in this world, and some of it requires no money at all. Funny that
Is this what 7th Grade has taught you? That you should reject "western society" (although what you really mean is the world monetary system because the entire WORLD, north korea included, uses money). Educate your kids at home and join a kibbutz? Are you nuts? Who do you think pays for the kibbutz? Where do you think the food comes from? Communes and Kibbutzes FEED off the economy with donations. Sure you can claim independence, but that would just be pointing out your own stupidity.
Anyone who truely believes these things in the parent post have never started or operated a business and most likely never will. Torpor, I hope you have a large trust fund.
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Look up the definition of corrupt. There is nothing corrupt about MS. Antri-Trust laws are wide reaching and broadly defined, so much so that most of the allegations could be applied to _any_ large company, simply because these practices are the way business function. There is nothing inherently corrupt about it.
Its a completely arbitrary amount, that makes it bullshit. MS is hardly corrupt or criminal. MS is successful at marketing and meeting market demands for its products. It is good to the communities (here at least) and good to its employees. An $800M fine because they supplied their media player on their cd's for THEIR operating systems is completely assinine.
I have to agree that the punishment does not equal the crime. Since it is so heavy-handed I have to look at it like the EU wants to punish America, rather than Microsoft for its actions.
Any time an arbitrary amount is handed out like this, there is usually an ulterior motive.
Of course, it should be noted that by and large IT professionals earn more money then most other jobs - which I suppose is once again a warning of money != happiness.
Given that the average IT professional has a college degree, comparing the salary of an IT person with that of a hair dress, plumber or any other trade degree job is comparing apples to oranges. The salaries suck, especially after dumping $100k into your college degree.
Will you give it a rest!! The man made a fortune by providing software that our economy needed. You are such a hack!
It already is everyone's neighbor. In the continental US, there is a McDonald's on every street with a route number.
I dunno if you should have so many mod points for that one... it was just too damn easy... Its like trying to hit the ground with a dart... you'll never miss.
Ahh, Wrong. If the wings fold up at 90 angles during re-entry, it will reduce the amount of friction on the wings, not increase it. Folding up the wings allows it to accellerate negatively at a slower rate, without having its wings snap off from the force.
Macros aren't programming, they're scripting :-P
This is the most retarded idea I've ever heard of. Why would you want to generate even MORE traffic over your network by actually responding to a DDoS!? The goal of a DDoS attack is to GET your machines to respond to generate traffic!!! Simply RETARDED!
I think the concept shows more that information is incestuous between related websites, rather than outright plagerism. I highly doubt any "good ideas" are publicized on blogs, versus commenting on existing ideas.
What is the point of blogs though? I thought they were to convey some sense of individuality on the old interweb. Instead, in everyone's rush to be some kind of blog king, blogs are forcing people think and express themselves in the same way. Stealing someone's ideas means you can't or don't come up with your own.
You arrogant fool.
There's a school of thought that believes that oil exists on Jupiter, where no organic life has ever existed. This came about when comet shoemaker-levy 9 crashed into Jupiter and created that "big black eye".
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If by "open" you mean internal to the company, then yeah, sure. If you mean "open" as in a developer can publish the code on the net, then you're out of your mind.
If all software was free software, no software developer would have a job.
Yeah, right after I read The Communist Manifesto.
I am neither a developer nor a student, and I don't see the relevance anyway.
This explains everything, thank you.
Software produced in-house, at any company, whether it be as a product or to support interal company systems, is proprietary. If one were to hand it out or publish it online, one would likely be fired.
As for supporting proprietary software to keep myself employed, thats simply nonsense. The OSS movement is mostly comprised of college students, hobbyists and academics, for the obvious reasons that full time software developers need to be paid to write software. The only reason this thread exists at all is because of cluebys like yourself who honestly believe that all software should be OSS and downloadable, which is nonsense.
That being said, OSS movement is a legitimate movement and I myself have dedicated countless hours to it. However, anyone who says that all software should be OSS, money sucks, etc etc (and I'm not pointing solely to you, sydb), is a retard.
I can't (I'm not the OP), but I've certainly seen a study fairly recently (perhaps even linked to from Slashdot) that leaned towards 70% in-house development and 30% commercial development. I'm sure you can verify it if you care enough to google for it.
I hate to be the first to enlighten you, but in-house development is proprietary software. So those statistics do not back up the answer that the majority of software developers are not employed at proprietary software institutions.
I don't see why you are asking that, unless you are going to descend into an ad-hominem "you'll understand when you grow up" argument.
Basically, Yes.
Most software developers don't work for proprietary software houses.
Are we talking about planet Earth? Can you provide me with some numbers to back that up? Are you a developer or a student?
You're still missing the point, which is that human values are -arbitrary- but they are HUMAN VALUES and its only Human Beings which make money worth anything.
Sure, humans provide a value to money. Without humans, there is no physical money on Earth. Thats deep. It still suggests that you have virtually no concept of the economics behind why your snickers bar costs $1.00. Its not that some monkey in management at Mars Corp decides to set a price at $1.00. It is much more complex than that.
Money was invented by humans to fill a void of trading goods and services abstractly. Removing money from the equation of any modern society would produce a complete collapse of the society. Money stabilizes the society.
I have a friend in England who is 5 months pregnant and has just been granted her first ultrasound by the govt. That means that her baby has not been monitored for proper development for 5 months. That is an example of Socialism.
Another example is of the guy who needs a dialysis machine, but since he's 65, he is denied. Why? Well, the socialized system can only afford X dialysis machines so they reject anyone over 60 because they have lived long enough. Thats socialized healthcare.
Guess what happens if you get Cancer in Canada. You move to the United States so you can get Chemo-Therapy. Sure, Canada has cheaper drugs, but they are not the market that provides for the development of new drugs. Do you know what that means? It means that if everyone were like Canada, it would not be profitable for drug companies to develop new drugs. In other words, no new drugs would be developed.
As for Capitalism producing such a poor educational system, lets get back to basics. The current education system is socialized. Yes, you read it correctly, it is a socialized system. Where as the purely capitalistic private schools, such as Phillips Exeter which churns up 75% Ivy League students is not socialized.
So can you explain to me WTF you're talking about?
Western Society has its head so far up its ass that people like you are making such conclusions about money ... which in and of itself is USELESS. Its only when some human being puts a value on it that its worth anything at all ...
I bolded the relevent section of what you wrote for you. That statement, that money is useless, and that only humans assign values to goods and services, is a rejection of the economic monetary system, regardless of whether you like it or not.
There are plenty of things in the world that have nothing to do with money. For example, child birth, pets, your significant other, your family, etc, etc, etc. On the other hand, if you are broke, you are putting your child at risk for lack of health care, you're starving your dog b/c you won't be able to buy him food and you'll be an economic drain on your next of kin when you borrow money for the arcade.
It is human beings who put values on things - including money. That is all.
Really dooooood?? You're a GENIUS!! Its like... you can't put a value to looove either, man! I always thought that the mice decided the price of my steak and fries, but you really showed me how the world works... Its the humans that decide it all. Its the corporate whitey who oppresses us by making us pay $1.25 for my over-sized Coke, dooood.
Plus, US could learn of couple of things from some of those countries. Think education for instance.
The problem with the education system in the US is two part. The first is the Teachers union breeding inept and lazy teachers. The second is that lack of effort that parents are willing to make to keep track of their students education.
From what I gather you are saying is that teachers should not be paid? How would Socialism produce a better educational system? Teachers in NJ make an average of $60,000/yr. Thats an *excellent* salary given that they work 9 months out of the year! Do they give a rats ass about the students?? BARELY!
No. YOU put food on the table. You make the kids. You put them through school.
You might use money to do that... but money itself DOESN'T DO A DAMN THING.
Western Society has its head so far up its ass that people like you are making such conclusions about money
Its only participation in modern American/Western culture that requires the use of money for all things, but in fact
Is this what 7th Grade has taught you? That you should reject "western society" (although what you really mean is the world monetary system because the entire WORLD, north korea included, uses money). Educate your kids at home and join a kibbutz? Are you nuts? Who do you think pays for the kibbutz? Where do you think the food comes from? Communes and Kibbutzes FEED off the economy with donations. Sure you can claim independence, but that would just be pointing out your own stupidity.
Anyone who truely believes these things in the parent post have never started or operated a business and most likely never will. Torpor, I hope you have a large trust fund.
But the market is very flawed and will be rectified, by Free Software.
Amusing. If by rectified you mean the complete innialation of the software developer market, then yes, I agree.