Up till now, pushing Mhz has likely been the cheapest way of ramping up speed.
At the end of the day, I couldn't give a crap whether or not my CPU that performs X teraflops does it by running a "dumb" core at extreme speed, or runs a really complex core at slow speed.
Now is the time to get into the nitty gritty of making chips more efficient, now we've exploited the cheap and easy ways...
"Don't attribute to malice, that which can be explained by incompetence." or something like that.
Has anybody confirmed that Intel actually had anything to do with this?
Could just be that Skype's dual cpu identification code sucks balls and their coder should be shot...
I really doubt intel would risk such a huge amount (swaying their antitrust case for example) on such an obscure, non-real-world "advantage" (for 99% of people out there).
If the app in question was 3dmark, or Doom 4 or whatever I'd be suspicious.... but 10way calls in Skype? Come on now....
In the past, we've had explorers sailing off for possible one-way trips, running out of food, dealing with canibal tribes, disease, etc.
In the past, we had wars fought up close and personal with knives, axes, swords, etc, not by remote control.
Many thousands of people died exploring this world in the last couple of hundred years. Now a couple die in a shuttle, going into SPACE and it's suddenly not worth it any more?
I'm quite sure the astronauts, and everyone else involved in the space program knows that there is risk involved. However the potential gains *for humanity as a whole* out there are, when you look at it surely worth the lives of hundreds of astronauts, if they're willing to put themselves on the line...
Oh, and just before anyone jumps on the "linux hippy won't buy games anyway....
I've got well over 100 legally purchased games in my collection, 0 pirate games installed (shock!) and end up buying about 1 game per month (not much, but I only spend 10 days per month at home so....)
Ever since the fiasco that was "Formula 1 - 2000" that will not run in Windows 2000/XP, and has been largely unsupported with any patches to make it happen.
Not that they've had anything remotely interesting lately anyway...
But Microsoft keep telling me that plug and play, zero configuration, etc is a good thing??:D
Seriously though, in a corporate environment, USB ports, autoconfiguration, etc *should* be disabled (yes yes, we live in reality, not fairyland where that would be feasible).
Another case for DRM? If the ipod owner doesn't have the PC's (secure, in-built) private key, he can't read the company data... he'd have to steal the entire PC.
Alternatively encryption such as that included with Win2k (tied to the user account) could work perhaps?
This sort of problem is only going to get worse with plug and play + bluetooth and insecure users...
No, ubuntu isn't 15 minutes, you're right, however it is largely unattended, which makes it far less painful:)
You also have to compare what you're getting with Ubuntu - compare an install of XP + office + firefox + gimp equivalent, etc.... you're way in front with Ubuntu.
FreeBSD however, can be up in about 15 minutes, depending on what packages you install, as can slackware.
Redhat used to be 15 minutes as well, back in the 5.x days on a pentium 1 class machine, because i remember doing it in 15 minutes and comparing to the 45 minutes or so Windows 98 took at the time:)
f it comes with this, awesome. No OS has quick setup right now, and even *nix is plauged by bloat (FC4 takes over an hour, 6.5 GB). However, I don't believe this number, "15 minutes". Is that like Windows 95 will run on 4 MB RAM? (For the record, it DOES, just barely... the mouse lags). Perhaps on a high end system.
Try Slackware, FreeBSD or Ubuntu sometime.
Honestly, I don't see what the big deal is with Fedora, I tried it (downloaded all 4 CDs) and found it had worse hardware/application support than a single CD of ubuntu (power management out of the box failed on this laptop - ubuntu worked just fine), and took longer to install...
Well, if history is anything to go by, I reckon they "can't" do security properly".
Let's compare:
Windows XP
Windows 2000
Windows ME
Windows 98
Windows NT4
Windows 95
Windows NT3.51
Windows 3.1
Dos
With a couple of exceptions, this is almost a perfect listing of Microsoft products in order from least secure, to most secure... (DOS is 100% secure from network attack as it has no built in ip stack:D)
You're trying pretty hard for "reasons to buy" when you include stuff like "our patching system for fixing buggy-ass code is better!", and "new version of internet explorer!" (which is/*was* a free product).
Or, as another poster pointed out, perhaps the "legislation" will LEGALISE their behavior so that the "problem" doesn't occur again, as they're acting within the law.
I was merely trying to point out how "fucked up" the system is - we live in a world that allowed the two events described above to have the outcomes they did...
So if a 15 year old crashes his school's webserver by getting a bunch of friends in IRC to click on it too many times he can be prosecuted, but if a global megacorporation does something far more insidious (effectively, SELLING you TROJANED media), then "we need regulation"?
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As opposed to "Intel aims to get further behind with new chips"?
What the hell else would they be doing??
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Up till now, pushing Mhz has likely been the cheapest way of ramping up speed.
At the end of the day, I couldn't give a crap whether or not my CPU that performs X teraflops does it by running a "dumb" core at extreme speed, or runs a really complex core at slow speed.
Now is the time to get into the nitty gritty of making chips more efficient, now we've exploited the cheap and easy ways...
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As mentioned many times - email is not a file storage medium.
If you want to keep copies of files (attachments) keep them on a filesystem...
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Has anybody confirmed that Intel actually had anything to do with this?
Could just be that Skype's dual cpu identification code sucks balls and their coder should be shot...
I really doubt intel would risk such a huge amount (swaying their antitrust case for example) on such an obscure, non-real-world "advantage" (for 99% of people out there).
If the app in question was 3dmark, or Doom 4 or whatever I'd be suspicious.... but 10way calls in Skype? Come on now....
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However "un-american" he may have been.
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In the past, we've had explorers sailing off for possible one-way trips, running out of food, dealing with canibal tribes, disease, etc.
In the past, we had wars fought up close and personal with knives, axes, swords, etc, not by remote control.
Many thousands of people died exploring this world in the last couple of hundred years. Now a couple die in a shuttle, going into SPACE and it's suddenly not worth it any more?
I'm quite sure the astronauts, and everyone else involved in the space program knows that there is risk involved. However the potential gains *for humanity as a whole* out there are, when you look at it surely worth the lives of hundreds of astronauts, if they're willing to put themselves on the line...
Are we turning into a bunch of sissies?
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If it can be played, it can be re-encoded into whatever format you like, on way or another...
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I've got well over 100 legally purchased games in my collection, 0 pirate games installed (shock!) and end up buying about 1 game per month (not much, but I only spend 10 days per month at home so....)
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Not that they've had anything remotely interesting lately anyway...
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Agencies (whether online, or in person), suck.
The employee doesn't get the job they're good at, and the company ends up with some paper-certified clown, more often than not.
I don't use them, and neither does my employer, if at all possible.
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Seriously though, in a corporate environment, USB ports, autoconfiguration, etc *should* be disabled (yes yes, we live in reality, not fairyland where that would be feasible).
Another case for DRM? If the ipod owner doesn't have the PC's (secure, in-built) private key, he can't read the company data... he'd have to steal the entire PC.
Alternatively encryption such as that included with Win2k (tied to the user account) could work perhaps?
This sort of problem is only going to get worse with plug and play + bluetooth and insecure users...
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Now, is it just me, or does the idea that life may well need some abnormal event to kick-start it in conflict with that very idea?
Perhaps include *some* of these systems?
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YOU LOT live in that world. I'm living outside of America where our legal system is slightly less insane.
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You also have to compare what you're getting with Ubuntu - compare an install of XP + office + firefox + gimp equivalent, etc.... you're way in front with Ubuntu.
FreeBSD however, can be up in about 15 minutes, depending on what packages you install, as can slackware.
Redhat used to be 15 minutes as well, back in the 5.x days on a pentium 1 class machine, because i remember doing it in 15 minutes and comparing to the 45 minutes or so Windows 98 took at the time :)
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Try Slackware, FreeBSD or Ubuntu sometime.
Honestly, I don't see what the big deal is with Fedora, I tried it (downloaded all 4 CDs) and found it had worse hardware/application support than a single CD of ubuntu (power management out of the box failed on this laptop - ubuntu worked just fine), and took longer to install...
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Let's compare:
With a couple of exceptions, this is almost a perfect listing of Microsoft products in order from least secure, to most secure... (DOS is 100% secure from network attack as it has no built in ip stack :D)
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You're trying pretty hard for "reasons to buy" when you include stuff like "our patching system for fixing buggy-ass code is better!", and "new version of internet explorer!" (which is/*was* a free product).
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I was merely trying to point out how "fucked up" the system is - we live in a world that allowed the two events described above to have the outcomes they did...
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Why are people not in jail for this yet?
(yes, that was a rhetorical question).
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